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I think he must have gotten all wee-wee'd up looking at your new avatar!What happened to Kev?
What happened to Kev?
I think he must have gotten all wee-wee'd up looking at your new avatar!What happened to Kev?
In other words, all that weighty information about historical Census questions must have really thrown you for a loop.What happened to Kev?
He didn't want to be rude and interrupt you and judyd patting each other's backs.
In other words, all that weighty information about historical Census questions must have really thrown you for a loop.What happened to Kev?
He didn't want to be rude and interrupt you and judyd patting each other's backs.
IF they had 700, nothing would get done. Right now, with Pelosi in charge, do you really want them to accomplish anything?A House of Rep with 435 barely gets things done now. You want it to be even bigger and even more unweldy. OK>Oh that is a good article.. Thank you for posting it. I am undecided on how to fill my census form out now.
One one hand- There is a point- it is better to just self-govern, and stop letting government have so much info about us.. Besides, they never really ask all the detailed demographic stuff anyways... at least not that I can recall.
On the other hand- it would be kinda nice to have questionnaires in place to where we could even give race, sexual preference, etc, etc, etc.. and even do other survey type things, so that there is no way that the gov't can skew the results. I would like to see this done online, in the future, really.
I also think we should be able to extend our house of representatives.. I am all for smaller government, especially when it comes to weakening the police forces and intelligence departments, but I think that the biggest problem in US enforcing this, is that the reps are having a lot of trouble with keeping the people's freedoms in mind, with such a small congress, relatively speaking. Like, in New York, there is like, what- 3 million people to each representative? How the fuck is that one person supposed to hear that many people?? It is ridiculous. Give us one per million. If 40-50% of the population votes, and only a third to a half of those people are registered to democratic or republican parties, then that leaves each representative with no more than a couple hundred thousand people to listen to. I think that is very workable, and reasonable.
Please post for us if you will Kevin, the relevant parts of the Constitution regarding the Census.In other words, all that weighty information about historical Census questions must have really thrown you for a loop.He didn't want to be rude and interrupt you and judyd patting each other's backs.
Or could it be that I did not feel it necessary to point out once again that the Constitution only allows for a simple head count for the reapportionment of Congressional districts? Now we can certainly point to many periods in history where the Constitution has been ignored, but does that really justify continuing to ignore the Constitution in the future?
In other words, all that weighty information about historical Census questions must have really thrown you for a loop.He didn't want to be rude and interrupt you and judyd patting each other's backs.
Or could it be that I did not feel it necessary to point out once again that the Constitution only allows for a simple head count for the reapportionment of Congressional districts? Now we can certainly point to many periods in history where the Constitution has been ignored, but does that really justify continuing to ignore the Constitution in the future?
Please post for us if you will Kevin, the relevant parts of the Constitution regarding the Census.In other words, all that weighty information about historical Census questions must have really thrown you for a loop.
Or could it be that I did not feel it necessary to point out once again that the Constitution only allows for a simple head count for the reapportionment of Congressional districts? Now we can certainly point to many periods in history where the Constitution has been ignored, but does that really justify continuing to ignore the Constitution in the future?
Thanks!
Not 1780.In other words, all that weighty information about historical Census questions must have really thrown you for a loop.
Or could it be that I did not feel it necessary to point out once again that the Constitution only allows for a simple head count for the reapportionment of Congressional districts? Now we can certainly point to many periods in history where the Constitution has been ignored, but does that really justify continuing to ignore the Constitution in the future?
Give it a rest! Jeez, they asked more personal questions in 1780--WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WRITERS WERE STILL AROUND--than the 10 questions they are asking in 2010.
In other words, all that weighty information about historical Census questions must have really thrown you for a loop.
Or could it be that I did not feel it necessary to point out once again that the Constitution only allows for a simple head count for the reapportionment of Congressional districts? Now we can certainly point to many periods in history where the Constitution has been ignored, but does that really justify continuing to ignore the Constitution in the future?
Give it a rest! Jeez, they asked more personal questions in 1780--WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WRITERS WERE STILL AROUND--than the 10 questions they are asking in 2010.
Please post for us if you will Kevin, the relevant parts of the Constitution regarding the Census.Or could it be that I did not feel it necessary to point out once again that the Constitution only allows for a simple head count for the reapportionment of Congressional districts? Now we can certainly point to many periods in history where the Constitution has been ignored, but does that really justify continuing to ignore the Constitution in the future?
Thanks!
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three." - Article 1, Section 2
Please post for us if you will Kevin, the relevant parts of the Constitution regarding the Census.
Thanks!
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three." - Article 1, Section 2
Very good. Now pay attention to the part in bolded in red.
It's also the same phrase I cited when I traipsed into this thread.
What part of that phrase do you not understand?
"But," the statists will sputter, "the Constitution says that this counting may be done in such Manner as they [Congress] shall by Law direct, and that allows us to get further information from and about you." This language merely goes to the mechanics of the counting (who will do it; when it is to be done; how, when results are to be reported; and so forth); it does not enlarge what may be counted. Constitutionally the only permitted enumeration is the number of people in the United States. Why? Because that count is the determinant for apportionment and therefore the only pertinent information needed. Not race, not ethnicity, not personal relationships, not housing tenure."
They asked more and more questions as the decades went on.Or could it be that I did not feel it necessary to point out once again that the Constitution only allows for a simple head count for the reapportionment of Congressional districts? Now we can certainly point to many periods in history where the Constitution has been ignored, but does that really justify continuing to ignore the Constitution in the future?
Give it a rest! Jeez, they asked more personal questions in 1780--WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WRITERS WERE STILL AROUND--than the 10 questions they are asking in 2010.
Obviously you meant 1790, and no they certainly were not more personal.
In other words, all that weighty information about historical Census questions must have really thrown you for a loop.
Or could it be that I did not feel it necessary to point out once again that the Constitution only allows for a simple head count for the reapportionment of Congressional districts? Now we can certainly point to many periods in history where the Constitution has been ignored, but does that really justify continuing to ignore the Constitution in the future?
Give it a rest! Jeez, they asked more personal questions in 1780--WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WRITERS WERE STILL AROUND--than the 10 questions they are asking in 2010.
They asked more and more questions as the decades went on.Give it a rest! Jeez, they asked more personal questions in 1780--WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WRITERS WERE STILL AROUND--than the 10 questions they are asking in 2010.
Obviously you meant 1790, and no they certainly were not more personal.
You think in the 200 years or so, it might have, you know, been struck down.
Or sumpthin'.
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three." - Article 1, Section 2
Very good. Now pay attention to the part in bolded in red.
It's also the same phrase I cited when I traipsed into this thread.
What part of that phrase do you not understand?
I believe I understand it quite well, and it is my opinion that it is you who are suffering the misunderstanding.
From the article:
"But," the statists will sputter, "the Constitution says that this counting may be done ‘in such Manner as they [Congress] shall by Law direct,’ and that allows us to get further information from and about you." This language merely goes to the mechanics of the counting (who will do it; when it is to be done; how, when results are to be reported; and so forth); it does not enlarge what may be counted. Constitutionally the only permitted enumeration is the number of people in the United States. Why? Because that count is the determinant for apportionment and therefore the only pertinent information needed. Not race, not ethnicity, not personal relationships, not housing tenure."