For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past

[frigidweirdo]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

 

[frigidweirdo]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

The History of Britain has been one of Britain standing alone ...

... the Hundred Years War
... the Spanish Armada
... the Napoleonic Wars
... the Battle of the North Atlantic
... the Battle of Britain


England stood alone and prevailed in their finest hours.

Right, so here's the deal.

Britain could have stayed in the EU and seen prosperity. Instead they swapped prosperity for the Blitz, getting bombed and killed daily. But hey, the UK will survive Brexit, but it could have THRIVED.

Yep, British mentality.

 

[fncceo]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

The History of Britain has been one of Britain standing alone ...

... the Hundred Years War
... the Spanish Armada
... the Napoleonic Wars
... the Battle of the North Atlantic
... the Battle of Britain


England stood alone and prevailed in their finest hours.

Right, so here's the deal.

Britain could have stayed in the EU and seen prosperity. Instead they swapped prosperity for the Blitz, getting bombed and killed daily. But hey, the UK will survive Brexit, but it could have THRIVED.

Yep, British mentality.

If you believe the future of the EU is prosperity, I admire your naivety.

 

[frigidweirdo]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

The History of Britain has been one of Britain standing alone ...

... the Hundred Years War
... the Spanish Armada
... the Napoleonic Wars
... the Battle of the North Atlantic
... the Battle of Britain


England stood alone and prevailed in their finest hours.

Right, so here's the deal.

Britain could have stayed in the EU and seen prosperity. Instead they swapped prosperity for the Blitz, getting bombed and killed daily. But hey, the UK will survive Brexit, but it could have THRIVED.

Yep, British mentality.

If you believe the future of the EU is prosperity, I admire your naivety.

If you think that attacking people instead of having an argument is going to get anywhere, you'll soon find out it doesn't.

 

[L.K.Eder]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

this bold assertion: "For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany." needs some sort of support.

i am not aware of this alleged idealisation and pedestal.

 

[fncceo]

you think that attacking people instead of having an argument is going to get anywhere, you'll soon find out it doesn't.

If you believe that was an attack, then I REALLY admire your naivety.

It must be truly soft and fluffy where you live .

 

[frigidweirdo]

you think that attacking people instead of having an argument is going to get anywhere, you'll soon find out it doesn't.

If you believe that was an attack, then I REALLY admire your naivety.

It must be truly soft and fluffy where you love.

Do you realize how close you are to getting on the ignore list. Stop being a prick.

 

[fncceo]

you think that attacking people instead of having an argument is going to get anywhere, you'll soon find out it doesn't.

If you believe that was an attack, then I REALLY admire your naivety.

It must be truly soft and fluffy where you love.

Do you realize how close you are to getting on the ignore list. Stop being a prick.

Is that a threat? Or a promise?

 

[Dale Smith]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

 

[Dale Smith]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

 

[montelatici]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

 

[Dale Smith]

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

 

[Dale Smith]

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

Control over who comes into the country....don't you think that's kinda important???

 

[Dale Smith]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

The History of Britain has been one of Britain standing alone ...

... the Hundred Years War
... the Spanish Armada
... the Napoleonic Wars
... the Battle of the North Atlantic
... the Battle of Britain


England stood alone and prevailed in their finest hours.

Right, so here's the deal.

Britain could have stayed in the EU and seen prosperity. Instead they swapped prosperity for the Blitz, getting bombed and killed daily. But hey, the UK will survive Brexit, but it could have THRIVED.

Yep, British mentality.

Yeah, REALLY prosperous.........dude, you seriously don't have a clue. You don't even know that the idea of the E.U was a plan of the Bilderburg group at a meeting in 1955 and they certainly didn't plan it to benefit the people that would have to be in it. Get a clue, dude.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

Control over who comes into the country....don't you think that's kinda important???

That isnt going to change.

If you are on about EU nationals then they will still be welcome because the UK relies on them to keep everything going.

If you mean "muslim savages" then we have always had that control anyway.

So what have we gained ?

 

[montelatici]

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

 

[frigidweirdo]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Ignorance because they don't know who makes their decisions.

They don't know who let in the Pakistanis, the Africans, the Indians, the Jamaicans. It wasn't the EU. And yet you've even used this argument. Holy shit dude.
Ignorance because they don't realize that when countries like Poland opened up, that some countries put blacks on immigration from those countries, but the sovereign UK govt DID NOT.
Ignorance because the UK govt simply rolled over and allowed something to happen that the UK people didn't want.
Ignorance that so many people were coming to the UK for benefits and passing through countries like France, why didn't they stay in France? Oh, wait, because the French govt managed to have a benefits system that actually worked for them, rather than have a benefit system which sucks. But yeah, blame the EU govt that the UK benefit system sucks.

You say the stuff about banking oligarchs, you don't think the Tories aren't going to bend over real hard for such people?

But then people like Farage painted this picture of Utopia when we leave the EU, without telling the people that actually most of the problems caused were caused by the UK govt and not the EU. In fact I think a lot of workers will find that they're worse off with a Tory govt with no checks than with the EU govt.

As for unelected, when was the last time May was elected by the people to be PM?

 

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These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

The History of Britain has been one of Britain standing alone ...

... the Hundred Years War
... the Spanish Armada
... the Napoleonic Wars
... the Battle of the North Atlantic
... the Battle of Britain


England stood alone and prevailed in their finest hours.

Right, so here's the deal.

Britain could have stayed in the EU and seen prosperity. Instead they swapped prosperity for the Blitz, getting bombed and killed daily. But hey, the UK will survive Brexit, but it could have THRIVED.

Yep, British mentality.

Yeah, REALLY prosperous.........dude, you seriously don't have a clue. You don't even know that the idea of the E.U was a plan of the Bilderburg group at a meeting in 1955 and they certainly didn't plan it to benefit the people that would have to be in it. Get a clue, dude.

What does what you've just said have to do with anything we've spoken about? Now you're throwing useless facts at me as an argument?

Let me try.

Dude, you know fucking nothing about the EU, did you know that no manager has ever won the Champions League/European Cup more than three times..... You don't even know this, get a clue dude.