For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past

[frigidweirdo]

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Interesting that you have A) insults and B) someone else's argument, someone we can't ask questions to..... hmmmm

 

[Dale Smith]

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

'

So you believe that Britain leaving the E.U is a bad thing? If so, you are unbelievably stupid.

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Ignorance because they don't know who makes their decisions.

They don't know who let in the Pakistanis, the Africans, the Indians, the Jamaicans. It wasn't the EU. And yet you've even used this argument. Holy shit dude.
Ignorance because they don't realize that when countries like Poland opened up, that some countries put blacks on immigration from those countries, but the sovereign UK govt DID NOT.
Ignorance because the UK govt simply rolled over and allowed something to happen that the UK people didn't want.
Ignorance that so many people were coming to the UK for benefits and passing through countries like France, why didn't they stay in France? Oh, wait, because the French govt managed to have a benefits system that actually worked for them, rather than have a benefit system which sucks. But yeah, blame the EU govt that the UK benefit system sucks.

You say the stuff about banking oligarchs, you don't think the Tories aren't going to bend over real hard for such people?

But then people like Farage painted this picture of Utopia when we leave the EU, without telling the people that actually most of the problems caused were caused by the UK govt and not the EU. In fact I think a lot of workers will find that they're worse off with a Tory govt with no checks than with the EU govt.

As for unelected, when was the last time May was elected by the people to be PM?

My strategical mistake was believing that you were more awake than you really are.. for you to even buy into this bullshit "free trade", open borders boondoggle and that the actual alleged "elected" members of parliament set policy without the blessing of the unelected banking shills in Brussels shows me that you are fucking clueless. You don't understand the origins of the E.U, the ramifications of it, the cost and control of those that foolishly join it and the power players behind it. I lack the energy and the inclination to school you on it....besides, I doubt you possess the intellect to grasp what it is that I would be putting forth. I am suffering from a serious case of ennui and casting pearls before swine doesn't "jazz" me. I can lead a horse to water....but if he is too fucking stubborn to drink from the well? It's simply not my problem that it stays thirsty. My time is better spent elsewhere. The immigration crisis is an orchestrated event and it will (if left unchecked) have even more horrific ramifications. Fuck you are your "tolerance"...fuck your "feelings". They are not going to help you when the SHTF....spare me a thought when it does because I warned you.

 

[Dale Smith]

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

Yeah, but you do "understand", eh???? It must be sad that lightweight pseudo intellectuals like you (with such massive bags of nothing) are not given more of a voice and your rants of woe have all the effect of a fart in the wind. The world is such a sadder place because the unwashed masses don't buy into your globalist bullshit agenda.

(snicker)

 

[Dale Smith]

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

Control over who comes into the country....don't you think that's kinda important???

That isnt going to change.

If you are on about EU nationals then they will still be welcome because the UK relies on them to keep everything going.

If you mean "muslim savages" then we have always had that control anyway.

So what have we gained ?

It better change because the muslims that are infiltrating your country are going to make it their mission to make those like you their personal "bitches".....you might want to invest in a "prayer rug" and learn what direction Mecca is from your locale lest you incur the wrath of your new "neighbors"...... (snicker)

 

[frigidweirdo]

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

'

Ah, the old "agree with me, or else I'll insult you" argument.

Well, it's funny, you look at the comments of the Brexit people on news sites and the like, and their complete lack of knowledge is mindboggling. They didn't know what they were voting for, they still don't know what they voted for.

They voted to stop immigration, and yet the immigration they hate the most was immigration from outside the EU.




They voted for sovereignty. And yet got annoyed when the House of Lords decided to do something they don't like.

They voted for democracy, and got an unelected leader to take them through the leaving process, and also don't want another vote on the final deal because, well, because they won and they don't want to lose that and democracy can go fuck itself in the trashcan.

Anything that is bad about Brexit is just more proof that they were right. A cat licking its own balls is proof that they were right too, somehow. If it's bad it's just a conspiracy or scaremongering. It's ridiculous.

Reality takes a back seat.

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Ignorance because they don't know who makes their decisions.

They don't know who let in the Pakistanis, the Africans, the Indians, the Jamaicans. It wasn't the EU. And yet you've even used this argument. Holy shit dude.
Ignorance because they don't realize that when countries like Poland opened up, that some countries put blacks on immigration from those countries, but the sovereign UK govt DID NOT.
Ignorance because the UK govt simply rolled over and allowed something to happen that the UK people didn't want.
Ignorance that so many people were coming to the UK for benefits and passing through countries like France, why didn't they stay in France? Oh, wait, because the French govt managed to have a benefits system that actually worked for them, rather than have a benefit system which sucks. But yeah, blame the EU govt that the UK benefit system sucks.

You say the stuff about banking oligarchs, you don't think the Tories aren't going to bend over real hard for such people?

But then people like Farage painted this picture of Utopia when we leave the EU, without telling the people that actually most of the problems caused were caused by the UK govt and not the EU. In fact I think a lot of workers will find that they're worse off with a Tory govt with no checks than with the EU govt.

As for unelected, when was the last time May was elected by the people to be PM?

My strategical mistake was believing that you were more awake than you really are.. for you to even buy into this bullshit "free trade", open borders boondoggle and that the actual alleged "elected" members of parliament set policy without the blessing of the unelected banking shills in Brussels shows me that you are fucking clueless. You don't understand the origins of the E.U, the ramifications of it, the cost and control of those that foolishly join it and the power players behind it. I lack the energy and the inclination to school you on it....besides, I doubt you possess the intellect to grasp what it is that I would be putting forth. I am suffering from a serious case of ennui and casting pearls before swine doesn't "jazz" me. I can lead a horse to water....but if he is too fucking stubborn to drink from the well? It's simply not my problem that it stays thirsty. My time is better spent elsewhere. The immigration crisis is an orchestrated event and it will (if left unchecked) have even more horrific ramifications. Fuck you are your "tolerance"...fuck your "feelings". They are not going to help you when the SHTF....spare me a thought when it does because I warned you.

Can you not make an argument without insulting people first?

I'm not going to reply to this nonsense.

 

[Dale Smith]

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

'

Your understanding of the premise behind the E.U and why Britain wanted out is lacking and I suggest you do some reading and researching on it.

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Ignorance because they don't know who makes their decisions.

They don't know who let in the Pakistanis, the Africans, the Indians, the Jamaicans. It wasn't the EU. And yet you've even used this argument. Holy shit dude.
Ignorance because they don't realize that when countries like Poland opened up, that some countries put blacks on immigration from those countries, but the sovereign UK govt DID NOT.
Ignorance because the UK govt simply rolled over and allowed something to happen that the UK people didn't want.
Ignorance that so many people were coming to the UK for benefits and passing through countries like France, why didn't they stay in France? Oh, wait, because the French govt managed to have a benefits system that actually worked for them, rather than have a benefit system which sucks. But yeah, blame the EU govt that the UK benefit system sucks.

You say the stuff about banking oligarchs, you don't think the Tories aren't going to bend over real hard for such people?

But then people like Farage painted this picture of Utopia when we leave the EU, without telling the people that actually most of the problems caused were caused by the UK govt and not the EU. In fact I think a lot of workers will find that they're worse off with a Tory govt with no checks than with the EU govt.

As for unelected, when was the last time May was elected by the people to be PM?

My strategical mistake was believing that you were more awake than you really are.. for you to even buy into this bullshit "free trade", open borders boondoggle and that the actual alleged "elected" members of parliament set policy without the blessing of the unelected banking shills in Brussels shows me that you are fucking clueless. You don't understand the origins of the E.U, the ramifications of it, the cost and control of those that foolishly join it and the power players behind it. I lack the energy and the inclination to school you on it....besides, I doubt you possess the intellect to grasp what it is that I would be putting forth. I am suffering from a serious case of ennui and casting pearls before swine doesn't "jazz" me. I can lead a horse to water....but if he is too fucking stubborn to drink from the well? It's simply not my problem that it stays thirsty. My time is better spent elsewhere. The immigration crisis is an orchestrated event and it will (if left unchecked) have even more horrific ramifications. Fuck you are your "tolerance"...fuck your "feelings". They are not going to help you when the SHTF....spare me a thought when it does because I warned you.

Can you not make an argument without insulting people first?

I'm not going to reply to this nonsense.

If you are "awake", you know what the E.U is all about and if you are not "awake"? What makes you worth my time to take you by your little hand and walk you through it? Answer: There is none. One of the curses or some may say "blessings" is that when you reach the place that I am at when it comes to the realization of what we are facing? You simply stop giving a flying fuck about wasting time on the terminally stupid.......does that make me a bit of a "snob" in the eyes of the sheeple? Perhaps.....but I simply lack the energy and the time to explain the same fucking shit I have been talking about since I came here a year and a half ago. I am tired of repeating myself. No one ever bothers to pull up my posting history or plug in key words using the search feature and ask me to explain the same damn things I have written about ad nauseum. There are some incredibly "awake" posters here that even I have learned from....some that have done a great job of challenging me and engaged me in meaningful dialogue....but for the majority of posters here are simply time wasters that pose no challenge at all....they bring nothing. I find myself posting less and less because there are no challenges. My biggest reason for even posting these days is to support those that have a clue.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

Control over who comes into the country....don't you think that's kinda important???

That isnt going to change.

If you are on about EU nationals then they will still be welcome because the UK relies on them to keep everything going.

If you mean "muslim savages" then we have always had that control anyway.

So what have we gained ?

It better change because the muslims that are infiltrating your country are going to make it their mission to make those like you their personal "bitches".....you might want to invest in a "prayer rug" and learn what direction Mecca is from your locale lest you incur the wrath of your new "neighbors"...... (snicker)

You have avoided my question Dale. Are you cracking up ?

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[frigidweirdo]

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

'

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Ignorance because they don't know who makes their decisions.

They don't know who let in the Pakistanis, the Africans, the Indians, the Jamaicans. It wasn't the EU. And yet you've even used this argument. Holy shit dude.
Ignorance because they don't realize that when countries like Poland opened up, that some countries put blacks on immigration from those countries, but the sovereign UK govt DID NOT.
Ignorance because the UK govt simply rolled over and allowed something to happen that the UK people didn't want.
Ignorance that so many people were coming to the UK for benefits and passing through countries like France, why didn't they stay in France? Oh, wait, because the French govt managed to have a benefits system that actually worked for them, rather than have a benefit system which sucks. But yeah, blame the EU govt that the UK benefit system sucks.

You say the stuff about banking oligarchs, you don't think the Tories aren't going to bend over real hard for such people?

But then people like Farage painted this picture of Utopia when we leave the EU, without telling the people that actually most of the problems caused were caused by the UK govt and not the EU. In fact I think a lot of workers will find that they're worse off with a Tory govt with no checks than with the EU govt.

As for unelected, when was the last time May was elected by the people to be PM?

My strategical mistake was believing that you were more awake than you really are.. for you to even buy into this bullshit "free trade", open borders boondoggle and that the actual alleged "elected" members of parliament set policy without the blessing of the unelected banking shills in Brussels shows me that you are fucking clueless. You don't understand the origins of the E.U, the ramifications of it, the cost and control of those that foolishly join it and the power players behind it. I lack the energy and the inclination to school you on it....besides, I doubt you possess the intellect to grasp what it is that I would be putting forth. I am suffering from a serious case of ennui and casting pearls before swine doesn't "jazz" me. I can lead a horse to water....but if he is too fucking stubborn to drink from the well? It's simply not my problem that it stays thirsty. My time is better spent elsewhere. The immigration crisis is an orchestrated event and it will (if left unchecked) have even more horrific ramifications. Fuck you are your "tolerance"...fuck your "feelings". They are not going to help you when the SHTF....spare me a thought when it does because I warned you.

Can you not make an argument without insulting people first?

I'm not going to reply to this nonsense.

If you are "awake", you know what the E.U is all about and if you are not "awake"? What makes you worth my time to take you by your little hand and walk you through it? Answer: There is none. One of the curses or some may say "blessings" is that when you reach the place that I am at when it comes to the realization of what we are facing? You simply stop giving a flying fuck about wasting time on the terminally stupid.......does that make me a bit of a "snob" in the eyes of the sheeple? Perhaps.....but I simply lack the energy and the time to explain the same fucking shit I have been talking about since I came here a year and a half ago. I am tired of repeating myself. No one ever bothers to pull up my posting history or plug in key words using the search feature and ask me to explain the same damn things I have written about ad nauseum. There are some incredibly "awake" posters here that even I have learned from....some that have done a great job of challenging me and engaged me in meaningful dialogue....but for the majority of posters here are simply time wasters that pose no challenge at all....they bring nothing. I find myself posting less and less because there are no challenges. My biggest reason for even posting these days is to support those that have a clue.

Again, you can't make an argument without attacking people first. Again, I don't read what you write.

 

[Dale Smith]

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

Control over who comes into the country....don't you think that's kinda important???

That isnt going to change.

If you are on about EU nationals then they will still be welcome because the UK relies on them to keep everything going.

If you mean "muslim savages" then we have always had that control anyway.

So what have we gained ?

It better change because the muslims that are infiltrating your country are going to make it their mission to make those like you their personal "bitches".....you might want to invest in a "prayer rug" and learn what direction Mecca is from your locale lest you incur the wrath of your new "neighbors"...... (snicker)

You have avoided my question Dale. Are you cracking up ?

Sent from my Nexus 6P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

The E.U doesn't impose quotas on their minion countries? How do you not know this. If you don't know anything about what the E.U is all about, how it came to be, the motive behind? You are THE last person that has any business criticizing those that wanted out of it....as if their opinion means less than yours....someone that s uneducated about the whole issue.

 

[Dale Smith]

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

'

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Ignorance because they don't know who makes their decisions.

They don't know who let in the Pakistanis, the Africans, the Indians, the Jamaicans. It wasn't the EU. And yet you've even used this argument. Holy shit dude.
Ignorance because they don't realize that when countries like Poland opened up, that some countries put blacks on immigration from those countries, but the sovereign UK govt DID NOT.
Ignorance because the UK govt simply rolled over and allowed something to happen that the UK people didn't want.
Ignorance that so many people were coming to the UK for benefits and passing through countries like France, why didn't they stay in France? Oh, wait, because the French govt managed to have a benefits system that actually worked for them, rather than have a benefit system which sucks. But yeah, blame the EU govt that the UK benefit system sucks.

You say the stuff about banking oligarchs, you don't think the Tories aren't going to bend over real hard for such people?

But then people like Farage painted this picture of Utopia when we leave the EU, without telling the people that actually most of the problems caused were caused by the UK govt and not the EU. In fact I think a lot of workers will find that they're worse off with a Tory govt with no checks than with the EU govt.

As for unelected, when was the last time May was elected by the people to be PM?

My strategical mistake was believing that you were more awake than you really are.. for you to even buy into this bullshit "free trade", open borders boondoggle and that the actual alleged "elected" members of parliament set policy without the blessing of the unelected banking shills in Brussels shows me that you are fucking clueless. You don't understand the origins of the E.U, the ramifications of it, the cost and control of those that foolishly join it and the power players behind it. I lack the energy and the inclination to school you on it....besides, I doubt you possess the intellect to grasp what it is that I would be putting forth. I am suffering from a serious case of ennui and casting pearls before swine doesn't "jazz" me. I can lead a horse to water....but if he is too fucking stubborn to drink from the well? It's simply not my problem that it stays thirsty. My time is better spent elsewhere. The immigration crisis is an orchestrated event and it will (if left unchecked) have even more horrific ramifications. Fuck you are your "tolerance"...fuck your "feelings". They are not going to help you when the SHTF....spare me a thought when it does because I warned you.

Can you not make an argument without insulting people first?

I'm not going to reply to this nonsense.

If you are "awake", you know what the E.U is all about and if you are not "awake"? What makes you worth my time to take you by your little hand and walk you through it? Answer: There is none. One of the curses or some may say "blessings" is that when you reach the place that I am at when it comes to the realization of what we are facing? You simply stop giving a flying fuck about wasting time on the terminally stupid.......does that make me a bit of a "snob" in the eyes of the sheeple? Perhaps.....but I simply lack the energy and the time to explain the same fucking shit I have been talking about since I came here a year and a half ago. I am tired of repeating myself. No one ever bothers to pull up my posting history or plug in key words using the search feature and ask me to explain the same damn things I have written about ad nauseum. There are some incredibly "awake" posters here that even I have learned from....some that have done a great job of challenging me and engaged me in meaningful dialogue....but for the majority of posters here are simply time wasters that pose no challenge at all....they bring nothing. I find myself posting less and less because there are no challenges. My biggest reason for even posting these days is to support those that have a clue.

Again, you can't make an argument without attacking people first. Again, I don't read what you write.

I doubt you would be able to comprehend what I write anyhow.....too many multi-syllable words would be my guess. (snicker)

 

[Challenger]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

The History of Britain has been one of Britain standing alone ...

... the Hundred Years War
... the Spanish Armada
... the Napoleonic Wars
... the Battle of the North Atlantic
... the Battle of Britain


England stood alone and prevailed in their finest hours.

Seriously? Your knowledge of British history is sadly lacking, we've never stood alone. Citing your examples..

Hundred Years War: England was allied with Burgundy, Portugal, Navarre and Flanders, amongst others.
Spanish Armada: We were allied with the Dutch rebels and France
Napoleonic wars: we created and financed several European coalitions against Napoleon and were allied with Portugal and Spain, Prussia, Russia and Austria.
Battle of the North Atlantic was part of WW2 where we were allied with everyone that the Nazis attacked and although the U.S. was neutral, the U.S. Navy "helped" by attacking U-boats found in territorial waters
Battle of Britain: large numbers of Polish, and other nationalities fighter pilots took part, but that's the only time we were ever close to standing alone.

Every time we "stand alone", we loose. See the American Rebellion (1776, etc.)

 

[Challenger]

Oh, by the way, 17,000,000 people voted to leave (and some of those just voted against Cameron), out of a total of 45,766,000 people allowed to vote in the UK. Most didn't bother to vote one way or the other because of apathy or they thought it was a waste of time and a foregone conclusion that we wouldn't be so monumentaly stupid as to vote leave. They were wrong, and now the rest of us have to live with the consequences. I voted remain, by the way.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

Control over who comes into the country....don't you think that's kinda important???

That isnt going to change.

If you are on about EU nationals then they will still be welcome because the UK relies on them to keep everything going.

If you mean "muslim savages" then we have always had that control anyway.

So what have we gained ?

It better change because the muslims that are infiltrating your country are going to make it their mission to make those like you their personal "bitches".....you might want to invest in a "prayer rug" and learn what direction Mecca is from your locale lest you incur the wrath of your new "neighbors"...... (snicker)

You have avoided my question Dale. Are you cracking up ?

Sent from my Nexus 6P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

The E.U doesn't impose quotas on their minion countries? How do you not know this. If you don't know anything about what the E.U is all about, how it came to be, the motive behind? You are THE last person that has any business criticizing those that wanted out of it....as if their opinion means less than yours....someone that s uneducated about the whole issue.

You are still avoiding my question Dale.

 

[montelatici]

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

Control over who comes into the country....don't you think that's kinda important???

That isnt going to change.

If you are on about EU nationals then they will still be welcome because the UK relies on them to keep everything going.

If you mean "muslim savages" then we have always had that control anyway.

So what have we gained ?

It better change because the muslims that are infiltrating your country are going to make it their mission to make those like you their personal "bitches".....you might want to invest in a "prayer rug" and learn what direction Mecca is from your locale lest you incur the wrath of your new "neighbors"...... (snicker)

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

Actually, no, it isn't.

"why Britain wanted out" isn't even a valid statement, there are many different reasons why people voted to leave the EU, many of those people who voted to leave, did so in ignorance.

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

Yeah, but you do "understand", eh???? It must be sad that lightweight pseudo intellectuals like you (with such massive bags of nothing) are not given more of a voice and your rants of woe have all the effect of a fart in the wind. The world is such a sadder place because the unwashed masses don't buy into your globalist bullshit agenda.

(snicker)

Of course I understand you ignorant little punk. It's you that has a bad case of cognitive dissonance you little turd.

 

[Bleipriester]

Nobody in their right mind would want to be admired by the idiotic Germany of Mutti Merkel.

Prior to joining the EU Britain, was once the mightiest nation in the world but has since been completely submerged by the EU bullshit.

It will now go from strength to strength without looking back.

Better to have good ties with the rest of the world, than the doomed EU countries, who the way they are going with Islamic immigration, will soon become ruled by sharia law.

Welcome to Eurabia!

Britain´s self-destruction is not EU-related. The other way round.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wh
She doesn't know what she is talking about.

'

Ignorance because they don't know who makes their decisions.

They don't know who let in the Pakistanis, the Africans, the Indians, the Jamaicans. It wasn't the EU. And yet you've even used this argument. Holy shit dude.
Ignorance because they don't realize that when countries like Poland opened up, that some countries put blacks on immigration from those countries, but the sovereign UK govt DID NOT.
Ignorance because the UK govt simply rolled over and allowed something to happen that the UK people didn't want.
Ignorance that so many people were coming to the UK for benefits and passing through countries like France, why didn't they stay in France? Oh, wait, because the French govt managed to have a benefits system that actually worked for them, rather than have a benefit system which sucks. But yeah, blame the EU govt that the UK benefit system sucks.

You say the stuff about banking oligarchs, you don't think the Tories aren't going to bend over real hard for such people?

But then people like Farage painted this picture of Utopia when we leave the EU, without telling the people that actually most of the problems caused were caused by the UK govt and not the EU. In fact I think a lot of workers will find that they're worse off with a Tory govt with no checks than with the EU govt.

As for unelected, when was the last time May was elected by the people to be PM?

My strategical mistake was believing that you were more awake than you really are.. for you to even buy into this bullshit "free trade", open borders boondoggle and that the actual alleged "elected" members of parliament set policy without the blessing of the unelected banking shills in Brussels shows me that you are fucking clueless. You don't understand the origins of the E.U, the ramifications of it, the cost and control of those that foolishly join it and the power players behind it. I lack the energy and the inclination to school you on it....besides, I doubt you possess the intellect to grasp what it is that I would be putting forth. I am suffering from a serious case of ennui and casting pearls before swine doesn't "jazz" me. I can lead a horse to water....but if he is too fucking stubborn to drink from the well? It's simply not my problem that it stays thirsty. My time is better spent elsewhere. The immigration crisis is an orchestrated event and it will (if left unchecked) have even more horrific ramifications. Fuck you are your "tolerance"...fuck your "feelings". They are not going to help you when the SHTF....spare me a thought when it does because I warned you.

Can you not make an argument without insulting people first?

I'm not going to reply to this nonsense.

If you are "awake", you know what the E.U is all about and if you are not "awake"? What makes you worth my time to take you by your little hand and walk you through it? Answer: There is none. One of the curses or some may say "blessings" is that when you reach the place that I am at when it comes to the realization of what we are facing? You simply stop giving a flying fuck about wasting time on the terminally stupid.......does that make me a bit of a "snob" in the eyes of the sheeple? Perhaps.....but I simply lack the energy and the time to explain the same fucking shit I have been talking about since I came here a year and a half ago. I am tired of repeating myself. No one ever bothers to pull up my posting history or plug in key words using the search feature and ask me to explain the same damn things I have written about ad nauseum. There are some incredibly "awake" posters here that even I have learned from....some that have done a great job of challenging me and engaged me in meaningful dialogue....but for the majority of posters here are simply time wasters that pose no challenge at all....they bring nothing. I find myself posting less and less because there are no challenges. My biggest reason for even posting these days is to support those that have a clue.

Again, you can't make an argument without attacking people first. Again, I don't read what you write.

I doubt you would be able to comprehend what I write anyhow.....too many multi-syllable words would be my guess. (snicker)

Look, anyone who doesn't bother with arguments, probably doesn't have arguments. I'm done with your nonsense. You show me the sort of attitude that some Brexit voters have. They're right and they know it, but they can't make the arguments to back it up.

Have a nice life, enjoy the ignore list, I'm done with you.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Oh, by the way, 17,000,000 people voted to leave (and some of those just voted against Cameron), out of a total of 45,766,000 people allowed to vote in the UK. Most didn't bother to vote one way or the other because of apathy or they thought it was a waste of time and a foregone conclusion that we wouldn't be so monumentaly stupid as to vote leave. They were wrong, and now the rest of us have to live with the consequences. I voted remain, by the way.

Or perhaps some people realized they didn't understand the issues, as opposed to many who voted Brexit who pretended, even still pretend, they understand what's going on.

 

[Dale Smith]

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Which decisions couldnt be made by Britain ?

Control over who comes into the country....don't you think that's kinda important???

That isnt going to change.

If you are on about EU nationals then they will still be welcome because the UK relies on them to keep everything going.

If you mean "muslim savages" then we have always had that control anyway.

So what have we gained ?

It better change because the muslims that are infiltrating your country are going to make it their mission to make those like you their personal "bitches".....you might want to invest in a "prayer rug" and learn what direction Mecca is from your locale lest you incur the wrath of your new "neighbors"...... (snicker)

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

Wh

Ignorance because they lost the sovereignty and decision making ability of their countries and they they were being ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats put in place by the banking oligarchs that run the IMF and BIS? You are the one that is ignorant. You think people shouldn't be concerned about the influx of muslim migrants that do not wish to assimilate? You are the one suffering from ignorance.

Being in or out of the EU had nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. The UK had sole authority with respect to non-EU citizens entering the UK. Ignoramus.

As far as "unelected" bureaucrats, in what country are bureaucrats elected, ignoramus. While the senior staff of the Commission are unelected, so are bureaucrats almost everywhere, including those in the U.S. Federal Government. And these bureaucrats, as well as being appointed by the elected governments of the member states, and being subject to confirmation in their positions by the elected European Parliament, and having to report regularly to the elected European Parliament cannot make final decisions on EU law or policy. Those decisions are made by the Council of Ministers (consisting of ministers from the elected governments of the member states) and the elected European Government. Furthermore, the general direction of the EU is guided by the European Council, consisting of the elected heads of each member state of the now 27 EU member states. And all the EU institutions are accountable to the treaties and to the European Court of Justice. The idea that there is a European government in Brussels with independent powers is nothing more than a myth perpetrated on ignoramuses like yourself.

You were saying, lame fuck?

She doesn't know what she is talking about.

Yeah, but you do "understand", eh???? It must be sad that lightweight pseudo intellectuals like you (with such massive bags of nothing) are not given more of a voice and your rants of woe have all the effect of a fart in the wind. The world is such a sadder place because the unwashed masses don't buy into your globalist bullshit agenda.

(snicker)

Of course I understand you ignorant little punk. It's you that has a bad case of cognitive dissonance you little turd.

How ironic....a stupid fuck (such as yourself) calls someone "ignorant" while not having the slightest clue on where to place a "comma". Basic punctuation skills that should have been taught in grade school totally escaped you.

I understand a great deal more than you do. You couldn't go "toe to toe" with me on ANY issue as it pertains to the geopolitical world scene on the best day you EVER had. You are "small time", punkinpuss.

 

[Dale Smith]

'
My strategical mistake was believing that you were more awake than you really are.. for you to even buy into this bullshit "free trade", open borders boondoggle and that the actual alleged "elected" members of parliament set policy without the blessing of the unelected banking shills in Brussels shows me that you are fucking clueless. You don't understand the origins of the E.U, the ramifications of it, the cost and control of those that foolishly join it and the power players behind it. I lack the energy and the inclination to school you on it....besides, I doubt you possess the intellect to grasp what it is that I would be putting forth. I am suffering from a serious case of ennui and casting pearls before swine doesn't "jazz" me. I can lead a horse to water....but if he is too fucking stubborn to drink from the well? It's simply not my problem that it stays thirsty. My time is better spent elsewhere. The immigration crisis is an orchestrated event and it will (if left unchecked) have even more horrific ramifications. Fuck you are your "tolerance"...fuck your "feelings". They are not going to help you when the SHTF....spare me a thought when it does because I warned you.

Can you not make an argument without insulting people first?

I'm not going to reply to this nonsense.

If you are "awake", you know what the E.U is all about and if you are not "awake"? What makes you worth my time to take you by your little hand and walk you through it? Answer: There is none. One of the curses or some may say "blessings" is that when you reach the place that I am at when it comes to the realization of what we are facing? You simply stop giving a flying fuck about wasting time on the terminally stupid.......does that make me a bit of a "snob" in the eyes of the sheeple? Perhaps.....but I simply lack the energy and the time to explain the same fucking shit I have been talking about since I came here a year and a half ago. I am tired of repeating myself. No one ever bothers to pull up my posting history or plug in key words using the search feature and ask me to explain the same damn things I have written about ad nauseum. There are some incredibly "awake" posters here that even I have learned from....some that have done a great job of challenging me and engaged me in meaningful dialogue....but for the majority of posters here are simply time wasters that pose no challenge at all....they bring nothing. I find myself posting less and less because there are no challenges. My biggest reason for even posting these days is to support those that have a clue.

Again, you can't make an argument without attacking people first. Again, I don't read what you write.

I doubt you would be able to comprehend what I write anyhow.....too many multi-syllable words would be my guess. (snicker)

Look, anyone who doesn't bother with arguments, probably doesn't have arguments. I'm done with your nonsense. You show me the sort of attitude that some Brexit voters have. They're right and they know it, but they can't make the arguments to back it up.

Have a nice life, enjoy the ignore list, I'm done with you.

I have made MORE than made my case as to why the E.U is nothing but a sovereign state killing, blood sucking, parasitic entity. It's not my fault that you lack the intellect to comprehend the information that I put out there. "Ignore" me to your heart's content....no sweat off of my nut-sac. You will be just one less idiot that I have to contend with.

 

[Yarddog]

These are instructive and fascinating times for onlookers in Germany, to be filed away later under “shattered illusions”.


For seven decades, most Germans idealised Britain much as many Brexiteers idealise Britain’s past and its post-EU future: a thriving, open-yet-closed land of cricket, cream teas and fair play. But Brexit has toppled Britain from its lofty, post-war pedestal in Germany.



Britain topples from post-war pedestal in Germany

Brexit will be a stigma that the british will carry for centuries.

Centuries? you think the European Union will really last that long? In a couple centuries They might be a province of Turkey or Pakistan.