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Having a right to something doesnkr meanirs provided to you
it simply means i have a right to go seek it
i submit to you the left has no idea what “rights” areThat is exactly what the Left believes the right to healthcare means. Universal healthcare is their goal, and in their view every person has a right to access it whether they can pay for it or not. And that does mean that treatment must be provided. To everybody.
Nobody has ever denied a person's right to go find health care, but the problem is in providing it. That's what access means.
Do you know what they are?i submit to you the left has no idea what “rights” are
Agreed that’s why i said it’s always been one
They can pass a resolution but can they back it up with action?Another first.
This state has now fully become the leftist's utopia. We've decriminalized ALL illicit drugs, we damn near have made it nearly impossible to buy a gun with Measure 114 that these asswipes voted for, and now healthcare is a 'human right'.
Anytime you hear someone say "healthcare should be a human right", what they're really saying is, "someone else needs to pay for my healthcare".
Voters in Oregon pass health care measure
By AP staff (AP)
PORTLAND, Ore. Nov. 14, 2022 9:01 p.m.
Oregon voters have narrowly passed a measure that decrees health care a human right.
Measure 111 makes Oregon the first state in the nation to change its constitution to explicitly declare affordable health care a fundamental right.
Voters in Oregon pass health care measure
Oregon voters have narrowly passed a measure that mandates the state recognize health care as a human right.www.opb.org
Their definition seems to be "stuff you should get for free".i submit to you the left has no idea what “rights” are
Their definition seems to be "stuff you should get for free".
If it's a "human right" then they can't deny "illegal immigrants" from other states. If you can't afford something, just head to Oregon.
Their definition seems to be "stuff you should get for free".
Your Rights are whatever you can manage to maintain either by cooperation or force. Which means if we bow your head and bend your knee your Rights are exactly what we say they are. What they aren't is magical fairy dust sprinkled on you by Mother Nature.They don't know the difference between a right and a privilege.
Nope.Which means if we bow your head and bend your knee your Rights are exactly what we say they are.
YepNope.
Nope. Rights aren't determined by the whim of the majority. This is what people are talking about when they say you don't understand "rights". You think it's just shit people vote on. You're wrong. It's the opposite. It's the things we're not allowed to vote on.
I didn't even mention voting in my post you illiterate Short Bus riding moron.Nope. Rights aren't determined by the whim of the majority. This is what people are talking about when they say you don't understand "rights". You think it's just shit people vote on. You're wrong. It's the opposite. It's the things we're not allowed to vote on.
The fact that you're acknowledging that there is an entity not allowing you to do something should be a giant fucking clue to you.It's a clue that you still don't understand what rights are.I didn't even mention voting in my post you illiterate Short Bus riding moron.
You clearly don't and are too afraid to state clearly what you think they are. You say it isn't derived from the will of the majority but ultimately our Constitution wasn't derived from a lightening bolt from Zeus or a burning bush, it was written and then ratified by a majority of men.It's a clue that you still don't understand what rights are.
I can state if very clearly. Rights are freedoms. They exist independently of government - they're a byproduct of volition. That doesn't mean that a given government will respect those rights, and I think that's where you get confused.You clearly don't and are too afraid to state clearly what you think they are.
No Boy, you're confused.I can state if very clearly. Rights are freedoms. They exist independently of government - they're a byproduct of volition. That doesn't mean that a given government will respect those rights, and I think that's where you get confused.
You still haven't stated clearly what rights are. They aren't freedom. You don't need the government to be free.The most important thing here is that "rights" aren't claims on the labor of others. Real rights don't require that anyone else do anything for you - other than leave you alone.
mkay. Irrelevant point, but true enough.No Boy, you're confused.
Ultimate freedom would be anarchy, lawlessness. In that scenario there is no government and so you are free to do whatever you want provided you have the ability to do it.
Yeah, I have. It didn't register in your brain because you have a fundamental disdain for rights. All they do is get in the way of your dreams of ubiquitous government.You still haven't stated clearly what rights are. They aren't freedom. You don't need the government to be free.
You really haven't, in fact you conceded, admitting your point was stupid.mkay. Irrelevant point, but true enough.
Yeah, I have. It didn't register in your brain because you have a fundamental disdain for rights. All they do is get in the way of your dreams of ubiquitous government.
It's what WHO says they are?Your Rights are whatever you can manage to maintain either by cooperation or force. Which means if we bow your head and bend your knee your Rights are exactly what we say they are. What they aren't is magical fairy dust sprinkled on you by Mother Nature.
Anyone with the power to force you into submission.It's what WHO says they are?
