First Draft of Cease Fire?

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060805/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_fighting_un

     
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    Reaction. The Security Council still needs to approve, but Hizbollah is complaining. I do find the French reaction to Hizbollah interesting:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060805/wl_nm/mideast_reaction_dc
     
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    You noticed the irony too? :laugh: Now Hizbollah? Seems Iran or Syria should be included? :rolleyes: Then again, I guess that would put France with them, never mind.
     
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    Syrian minister rejects cease-fire plan 1 hour, 1 minute ago

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060806...8rK7JoUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--

    That lasted a long time. Apparently the real purpose of this peace plan is to see who wants peace and who doesn't. That was pretty obvious a while back I think.
     
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    I think Israel should continue straight through Lebanon into Syria. They need to sweep both Countries clean of Hezbollah. IMO
    The US can move to the eastern Syrian boarder or the western boarder of Iran to stop Iranian forces from crossing. Turkey can secure its eastern boarder with Iran.

    Then, announce to Iran they’re next.
     
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    The idea that a guerilla army like Hezbollah can be "swept clean" from an area as large as Lebanon and Syria without support of the citizenry is beyond ludicrous. You can bomb cities and urban positions to kill a lot of the guerillas, but this will be at the expense of support of the local citizenry. And without enough support from locals you can never hope to sweep clean an area of guerillas. By Israel bombing the infrastructure of lebanon they have inadvertently made it possible for hizbollah to remain there for decades. Once again this is yet another 21st century war fought based on short term satisfaction and a lack of long term oversight.
     
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    Any reasonable citizen that sees the Country being destroyed would surely support the effort to eliminate the cause, don't ya think? Pull your head outta the pacifist hole in the ground. The cause of this current situation IS NOT Israel, it is Hezbollah. Deal with it, Israel is.
     
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    Exactly--and I have a feeling that only France is standing in the way. This thing is far from over and expect it to get worse as the Hizbullys keep firing the big stuff.
     
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    Solutions are independant from the causes. Im a pessimist, not a pacifist.

    There is now no solution to this problem for the forseeable future. The problem is noone can "deal with it"

    Hezbollah are not going to be destroyed unless the local population are pursuaded to remove them. Bombing the infrastructure of lebanon will not suffice and has the negative side effect of ensuring the population will not remove them. Ie bombing damages hezbollah but also solidifies their position. The net effect is unknown. I suspect, due to it being fairly easy to recruit and supply hezbollah in that region that the net effect has been to strengthen and not weaken hezbollah. It's like shooting rats, they will breed and grow in number faster than you can kill them, except the noise of your shooting has annoyed the locals on whom land the rats live and those locals are now less interested in helping you remove them. In short you gain nothing and lose slightly more. Shooting things is a short term satisfaction solution - everytime you kill a rat it makes you feel like you have accomplished something. One step closer to goal. But it aint necessarily true.
     

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