Cecilie1200
Diamond Member
No- it is not murder or homicide.. unless you purposefully were trying to kill the fetus only, knowing that she was pregnant- and that was not something she consented to.
I really don't believe it should be considered murder, or even homicide, whatsoever. I am discussing it from a legal standpoint, is all.. Wrongful act, maybe.. It should definitely be left to the civil courts, in my opinion.
I am very pro choice. I do not believe that abortion is killing anything. Ever. All it really does is cause the organism to detach from the uterus, and be expelled, thereby creating an atmosphere in which it ceases from growing. If it cannot live outside of the uterus, independently, then it is not "alive", any more than an egg or sperm cell, or even a Tumor is "alive". Yes I said tumor. And no I am not calling a fetus a tumor, lol.. I am making a valid analogy, though.
No, you aren't. Not a single thing you "believe" is based on any sort of actual medical science.
However, if they are charged with homicide, it won't be for inducing a miscarriage, whether the baby was born alive or stillborn. It will be a depraved indifference homicide, IF the child took a breath outside the mother's womb, because they didn't get him medical treatment and allowed him to die. And either way, they're going to get charged with abuse of a corpse, tampering with evidence, etc.
And equality before the law has always been lost on this country.. But in this case, equality can mean many things- a woman's right to choose to not carry a pregnancy, based on men not having to ever choose TO carry one. A woman's right to control every aspect of her body, and how it functions, including during a time of being the "carrier" (host) of a zygote, embryo or fetus.. and her absolute right to decide how long that should be allowed to happen.
Also, she has the absolute right to go belly flopping off of a cliff, if she so chooses, when she is in her third trimester. I never claim to agree with those kinds of choices, but that is irrelevant- because her body and mine are absolutely separate entities. She may be fully opposed to smoking cigarettes, while I smoke daily.
When I was pregnant, I had some housekeepers tell me I shouldn't ride a friggin bike, because a fall could hurt the baby. They never seemed to have heard of an amniotic sac, much less the concept of exercise during pregnancy- fully explaining their own saddle bags, and stocky, chubby little bodies..
Oh and I had a boss in the Navy who told me when I was like 2 months along that I couldn't swing off of a rope swing, which was only a few feet up from the water. I decided against doing that, just because I hadn't spoken with my Dr about it yet, but it turns out that doing little things like that are not harmful.
Nobody tells me what I can or cannot do during a pregnancy. It is still ME, MY life.. and I will enjoy it, tyvm.