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MeBelle60 said:You neglected the benefits portion, as did your links.
In MANY instances benefits can ADD 50% or more to a public sector 'pay'.
Why in the heck should us lowly tax payers contribute forever, something which we don't receive ourselves?
What wonderful benefits do you imagine Federal workers get? They pay over $2 k per year for health insurance, pay the same Social Security and Medicare and have a 401k type retirement plan
How do you reach 50%. ???
Personal experience.
My response stated MANY. Your $2k per year for HI are pre-tax dollars. SS and Medicare were not/are not part of SALARY, which was what the OP had linked too.
Also, there are many layers of Fed employees. Not each layer has a defined benefit plan.
Just take a look at congressional pay/benefits and see what you find.
MANY are given a nice retirement salary, for few years on the job, at the expense of the taxpayer.
In semiskilled jobs I beleive that the FEDERAL workers (which includes the military, remember) are handsomely paid in comparison to public sector equivalent posts.
At the upper levels of professional postings I suspect the FED professionals underpaid compared to their public sector equivalents.
It's well known that governement workers recieve great benefits and job security, however they also recieve much less direct pay than most private sector workers.
Of course statistics also include super-high paid government workers, like the Chairmen of the Fed and the President, which really skews the statististics.
It also doesn't take into account the HUGE risks taken by many governement workers - like CIA & FBI agents.
But the real problem isn't that the total compensation of governement workers is too high - it's that the benefits, security and other benefits given to private sector workers ARE WAY TOO LOW!
We should stop asking why government workers are paid too much and start asking why private sector workers are paid too little!
All Federal Employees receive the same benefits package and that includes Congress. No one receives a nice retirement package for a few years on the job. You get one percent of your salary for every year worked starting at age 62 for Congressmen.
A Senator who served two terms would get 12% of $172,000 or $21,000 a year once he reached the age of 62
That's gotta be a trick post. Who do federal workers compare themselves to, Steve Jobs? Federal workers perform a useful service. The problem is that they only service each other.
All Federal Employees receive the same benefits package and that includes Congress. No one receives a nice retirement package for a few years on the job. You get one percent of your salary for every year worked starting at age 62 for Congressmen.
A Senator who served two terms would get 12% of $172,000 or $21,000 a year once he reached the age of 62
no we dont RW......the higher ups in the PO get more shit then what i do.....from what i am told the PMG and his District Managers get FREE health Ins.......OR they pay next to nothing for better coverage than what a little piss ant like i can get.....they also dont have to actually work....get great pay for doing nothing.....thats a great Benefit....
Why, we should give all the gov't employees a RAISE!!! Right? Because they are doing such a wonderful job!!
just a question...what's the median? You know, the one where 1/2 make more and 1/2 make less?
It's my guess that the government is very top heavy.
All Federal Employees receive the same benefits package and that includes Congress. No one receives a nice retirement package for a few years on the job. You get one percent of your salary for every year worked starting at age 62 for Congressmen.
A Senator who served two terms would get 12% of $172,000 or $21,000 a year once he reached the age of 62
no we dont RW......the higher ups in the PO get more shit then what i do.....from what i am told the PMG and his District Managers get FREE health Ins.......OR they pay next to nothing for better coverage than what a little piss ant like i can get.....they also dont have to actually work....get great pay for doing nothing.....thats a great Benefit....
Post office has always had separate health benefits. They have been Quasigovernment since the 70s
Probably not, but I'd put my money on the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
I wouldn't. The GAO yes, all other government organisations are suspect.
Righties only believe government reports when they support their political agendas. Apparently BLS does not...
What is the "source" of your chart? The OP references the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Washington Post.
Why, we should give all the gov't employees a RAISE!!! Right? Because they are doing such a wonderful job!!
The hundreds that work in my township, city and county bust their asses and are worth every penney. I know.
