FDR Admiration Society

[Unkotare]

The Democrats give us FDR and the Republicans give us Trump.















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So far, trump has overseen low unemployment and historic economic growth. The scumbag fdr ordered innocent Americans into concentration camps.

 

[rightwinger]

If it took WWII for America to get out of the depression that is evidence that FDR's New Deal did not spend nearly enough.
The depression required war-time spending. We now know from FDR and the Great Depression that the amount of money spent must be ample. We also know from the same sources that the program to end the depression cannot be stopped as soon as their are indications the depression is leaving. At least we now have some kind of answer to depressions that we didn't have when FDR took office.

So if a president today said he was going to abandon anti-trust law and allow corporate collusion do drive competition out of business and raise prices you would think it's a sound policy

How about the time FDR took over all production in this country and told business what they could produce, who they could hire and what supplies they could get ?

And you refuse to answer my question

Is abandoning anti trust law and allowing corporate collusion to eliminate competition in order to drive up prices sound economic policy?

Does it make sense to slaughter 6 million pigs so as to drive up the price of pork when people were going hungry?

This is exactly what FDR did yet you celebrate him while you would certainly excoriate any president for doing so today

Desperate times call for desperate measures

The times wouldn't have been so desperate if not for FDR's unconstitutional polices

We were already three years into the Great Depression
FDR saved the country

Then he saved the world for Democracy

 

[rightwinger]

The Democrats give us FDR and the Republicans give us Trump.



the

So far, trump has overseen low unemployment and historic economic growth. The scumbag fdr ordered innocent Americans into concentration camps.

The Great Obama had better growth and created more jobs

 

[regent]

Funny how political ideologues whine and criticize FDR 80 or 90 years after his era, but the folks who lived during that period and era kept electing him over and over. He was truly a beloved President.

So was Saddam Hussein, I guess. He was re-elected by wide margins.

Oh, great, now we are comparing Sadam era Iraq elections to American elections of the 1930's and 40's. Because Iraq during rhe 1980's and 90's was just like America in rhe 1930's and 49's.

You set the standard. I just pointed out another example. Need some more? Or are you starting to get the idea of why we had to amend the Constitution after the fucking scumbag fdr?

"We" didn't have to amend the Constitution after FDR, it was the Republicans that were behind the amendment. Apparently the Republicans were fearful that in the future Iraq would elect Saddam. Good move Republicans.

 

[Skull Pilot]

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

NIRA was set to expire in June of 1935. Declared as unconstitutional on May 27, 1935, the ruling had no effect and was met with a shrug and no challenge as the administration had already begun other programs, making NIRA obsolete.

So you still applaud a president who violated the constitution

I take it you'd be in agreement if another president threw anti trust laws out the window in order to let corporations collude to drive competition out of business and raise prices

 

[Skull Pilot]

Funny how political ideologues whine and criticize FDR 80 or 90 years after his era, but the folks who lived during that period and era kept electing him over and over. He was truly a beloved President.

PEople are sheep

 

[rightwinger]

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

NIRA was set to expire in June of 1935. Declared as unconstitutional on May 27, 1935, the ruling had no effect and was met with a shrug and no challenge as the administration had already begun other programs, making NIRA obsolete.

So you still applaud a president who violated the constitution

I take it you'd be in agreement if another president threw anti trust laws out the window in order to let corporations collude to drive competition out of business and raise prices

The only other President who faced national crisis as bad as FDR was Lincoln

Both did what needed to be done to save the country
They are considered our two greatest Presidents

 

[Skull Pilot]

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

NIRA was set to expire in June of 1935. Declared as unconstitutional on May 27, 1935, the ruling had no effect and was met with a shrug and no challenge as the administration had already begun other programs, making NIRA obsolete.

So you still applaud a president who violated the constitution

I take it you'd be in agreement if another president threw anti trust laws out the window in order to let corporations collude to drive competition out of business and raise prices

The only other President who faced national crisis as bad as FDR was Lincoln

Both did what needed to be done to save the country
They are considered our two greatest Presidents

What did Lincoln do that was unconstitutional?

By definition if a president violates the Constitution he is not a great president because he has violated his oath of office

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

FDR had created some good economic growth, and ideas. With that said he also was a war criminal, for internment of Japanese, for his admin's bombing of Dresden, and for being involved in the Soviet take-over of most of Central Europe in Tehran, and Yalta Conferences.

 

[Unkotare]

Funny how political ideologues whine and criticize FDR 80 or 90 years after his era, but the folks who lived during that period and era kept electing him over and over. He was truly a beloved President.

So was Saddam Hussein, I guess. He was re-elected by wide margins.

Oh, great, now we are comparing Sadam era Iraq elections to American elections of the 1930's and 40's. Because Iraq during rhe 1980's and 90's was just like America in rhe 1930's and 49's.

You set the standard. I just pointed out another example. Need some more? Or are you starting to get the idea of why we had to amend the Constitution after the fucking scumbag fdr?

"We" didn't have to amend the Constitution after FDR, it was the Republicans that were behind the amendment. ....

democrats supported it also.

 

[regent]

Funny how political ideologues whine and criticize FDR 80 or 90 years after his era, but the folks who lived during that period and era kept electing him over and over. He was truly a beloved President.

So was Saddam Hussein, I guess. He was re-elected by wide margins.

Oh, great, now we are comparing Sadam era Iraq elections to American elections of the 1930's and 40's. Because Iraq during rhe 1980's and 90's was just like America in rhe 1930's and 49's.

You set the standard. I just pointed out another example. Need some more? Or are you starting to get the idea of why we had to amend the Constitution after the fucking scumbag fdr?

"We" didn't have to amend the Constitution after FDR, it was the Republicans that were behind the amendment. ....

democrats supported it also.[/QUOT
Just as Republicans supported the Internment camps.

 

[Unkotare]

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

NIRA was set to expire in June of 1935. Declared as unconstitutional on May 27, 1935, the ruling had no effect and was met with a shrug and no challenge as the administration had already begun other programs, making NIRA obsolete.

So you still applaud a president who violated the constitution

I take it you'd be in agreement if another president threw anti trust laws out the window in order to let corporations collude to drive competition out of business and raise prices

The only other President who faced national crisis as bad as FDR was Lincoln

Both did what needed to be done to save the country
They are considered our two greatest Presidents

Brave, loyal, innocent Americans didn’t need to be thrown into concentration camps “to save the country.”

 

[rightwinger]

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

One of the problems of the Great Depression was that selling prices dropped so low that it cost more to make the product than it could be sold for. The example of that was in the farms. It cost more to feed the pigs than the prlce the farmer could get if he sold the pigs. Pigs were destroyed with other farm products because the pigs were to costly to even market.
The NIRA was an attempt to make sure a profit could be made on products. It failed because businessmen set the profit margin too high.

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

NIRA was set to expire in June of 1935. Declared as unconstitutional on May 27, 1935, the ruling had no effect and was met with a shrug and no challenge as the administration had already begun other programs, making NIRA obsolete.

So you still applaud a president who violated the constitution

I take it you'd be in agreement if another president threw anti trust laws out the window in order to let corporations collude to drive competition out of business and raise prices

The only other President who faced national crisis as bad as FDR was Lincoln

Both did what needed to be done to save the country
They are considered our two greatest Presidents

Brave, loyal, innocent Americans didn’t need to be thrown into concentration camps “to save the country.”

Kept them from becoming terrorists and sabatoers

There were no further attacks after Pearl Harbor

 

[Unkotare]

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

And the NIRA was found to be unconstitutional

NIRA was set to expire in June of 1935. Declared as unconstitutional on May 27, 1935, the ruling had no effect and was met with a shrug and no challenge as the administration had already begun other programs, making NIRA obsolete.

So you still applaud a president who violated the constitution

I take it you'd be in agreement if another president threw anti trust laws out the window in order to let corporations collude to drive competition out of business and raise prices

The only other President who faced national crisis as bad as FDR was Lincoln

Both did what needed to be done to save the country
They are considered our two greatest Presidents

Brave, loyal, innocent Americans didn’t need to be thrown into concentration camps “to save the country.”

Kept them from becoming terrorists and sabatoers

...

By the same un-American illogic, we had better throw your ass in jail to make sure you don’t commit any crime.

 

[regent]

Had there been sabotage and other crimes committed against the defense industries. and FDR had not taken any defensible measures, you guys would now be pralsing FDR as a great president for his hands-off policy, right? Get real.

 

[Unkotare]

Had there been sabotage and other crimes committed against the defense industries. and FDR had not taken any defensible measures, you guys would now be pralsing FDR as a great president for his hands-off policy, right? Get real.

Illogical, unlawful, un-American. Your idol was the worst scumbag to ever sully the office, and your clumsy attempts at playing the apologist are shameful.

 

[regent]

Had there been sabotage and other crimes committed against the defense industries. and FDR had not taken any defensible measures, you guys would now be pralsing FDR as a great president for his hands-off policy, right? Get real.

Illogical, unlawful, un-American. Your idol was the worst scumbag to ever sully the office, and your clumsy attempts at playing the apologist are shameful.

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Had there been sabotage and other crimes committed against the defense industries. and FDR had not taken any defensible measures, you guys would now be pralsing FDR as a great president for his hands-off policy, right? Get real.

Illogical, unlawful, un-American. Your idol was the worst scumbag to ever sully the office, and your clumsy attempts at playing the apologist are shameful.

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Historians are liberal


.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Had there been sabotage and other crimes committed against the defense industries. and FDR had not taken any defensible measures, you guys would now be pralsing FDR as a great president for his hands-off policy, right? Get real.

Illogical, unlawful, un-American. Your idol was the worst scumbag to ever sully the office, and your clumsy attempts at playing the apologist are shameful.

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Follow the money, you dunce.

Abiding by the dictates of the Liberals who run academia, they put bread on the table.

The proof is that FDR boot-lickers, you, can never refute the charges brought against him in these threads.

 

[Unkotare]

Had there been sabotage and other crimes committed against the defense industries. and FDR had not taken any defensible measures, you guys would now be pralsing FDR as a great president for his hands-off policy, right? Get real.

Illogical, unlawful, un-American. Your idol was the worst scumbag to ever sully the office, and your clumsy attempts at playing the apologist are shameful.

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Same old logical fallacy again and again. You still haven’t learned how to think.