Fascism vs Socialism?

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  1. manifold
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    This comment by Agna got me thinking.

    Certainly I can see how fascism and socialism differ in theory. In fact theoretically, they differ quite significantly. However, in practice it seems they end up looking very much alike: All power (and control of resources and means of production) in the hands of a very few. Far fewer even than with capitalism.

    Discuss.
     
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    No discussion necessary. You're right. A socialist regime will end up as a fascist one.
     
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    False first premise. Start over.
     
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    It is kind of like an unholy trinity

    Facism+marxism=Obamunism

    all of these have their foundational roots in socialism, without which they would not have been able to build
     
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    You can't rightfully lump Capitalism in with Fascism and Socialism. To that I mean, the latter deal with government control whereas the former does not.

    At this point in time, those yelling we have a socialist wannabe government with President Obama are incorrect. What is being promoted, is a furtherance of fascist control. Notice I said furtherance. As ugly as it is, it didn't start with President Obama.
     
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    Pixie and Allie, you have not defined your terms. Until you do, your premise is unprovable.

    Come on, pay attention, and step up.
     
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    cool, an -ism debate without facts!
     
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    Allie and Pixie are hoping, I think, that everyone else will not notice!:lol::lol::lol:
     
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    Two aspects of the same authoritarian mindset.

    In both systems, the individual is looked upon as a mere meat puppet means to the ends of the state.

    Arguing over fly fishing for trout versus trolling for tuna is more intellectually stimulating.
     
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    Allie has, down through the years, posted the facts and argued this topic successfully ad nauseum. I grow weary of educating a new batch of retards every 3 months or so, so I don't bother.
     
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