Family of slain Democratic staffer Seth Rich sues Fox News

[busybee01]

Wow, the hatred of fair and balanced media sources and the hard core political beliefs of democrats really trump (pardon the expression) a reasonable speculation about their son's murder and the search for the perpetrator. If you consider "mental anguish" and "emotional distress" to be the basis for a law suit you will probably see Hillary and her staff suing Fox.

Hillary Clinton is a public figure. Seth Rich was not.

 

[Reasonable]

What number is Seth Rich on the dead Clinton associates list? 40 or 50 or is it more than that?

Damn.... that tin foil hat you wear has cut off all of your oxygen

Clinton death list...
The List of Clinton Associates Who Allegedly Died Mysteriously. Check It Out.

All thoroughly investigated and proven the Clinton’s has nothing to do with them.
Facts are like kryptonite to the Trump cult.

 

[busybee01]

I don't get it. Seth Rich gave Wikileaks the DNC and Crooked Hillary emails. Everyone knows that. It is not a conspiracy theory.

Liar. Rich did not give WikiLeaks the emails. Only the tinfoil hat brigade knows about it slime. Don't forget Crooked Trump. .

how do you know he didn't? you fks crack me up at the attitudes of what you think you know. LOL

He didn't have access to the DNC servers for one thing. You fkers are sick as to what you will do to protect Trump.

 

[Reasonable]

They can sue, but Seth Rich may very well have been the source for the Wikileaks info. He was in contact with Wikileaks. The Democrats obviously don't wanna accept that one of their own exposed their corruption, but it is likely the case.

Experts believe that it wasn't a hack job but a leak from inside.

A former intelligence official who claims that Russia did not hack the Democratic National Committee in 2016 reportedly met with CIA Director Mike Pompeo in late October at the request of President Donald Trump.

• The official was part of a group of intelligence veterans whose report contradicts the findings of the intelligence agencies that investigated the 2016 election hacking. They say DNC emails were leaked by someone on the inside.

Trump reportedly told the director of the CIA to meet with a former intelligence official who claims Russia never hacked the DNC

Yes it was a leak, not a hack. But obviously the Democrats will do everything in their power to prevent that truth from coming to light. His demise is very questionable. What really happened?

Seth wasn't the only death. 4 deaths. In three weeks. You had Joe Montano, who was the Chairman of the DNC before Debbie Wasserman Shultz died of a heart attack at age 47 even though he had no history of heart issues. You had Victor Thorn who had written a book about the Clintons supposedly committing suicide even though he had just scored a huge international book deal.

AND Shawn Lucas who served the DNC/Wasserman Schulz with class action lawsuit papers over the rigging of the primary.

But of course these must be all coincidences. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket. Four men all tied in to the DNC/Clinton/Kaine all suffered Arkancide.

Imagine living your life being a conspiracy theorist and having no concept of reality.

To me the murder of Seth Rich is simply an unsolved murder. One theory is political operatives offed him. The other theory is that it was a botched robbery.

There is no evidence for either theory. Plain and simple. Murder mystery.

Go reread your own post above where you attribute a long list of murders to the Clinton’s. Do u think you write in invisible ink?

 

[Reasonable]

They can sue, but Seth Rich may very well have been the source for the Wikileaks info. He was in contact with Wikileaks. The Democrats obviously don't wanna accept that one of their own exposed their corruption, but it is likely the case.

Experts believe that it wasn't a hack job but a leak from inside.

A former intelligence official who claims that Russia did not hack the Democratic National Committee in 2016 reportedly met with CIA Director Mike Pompeo in late October at the request of President Donald Trump.

• The official was part of a group of intelligence veterans whose report contradicts the findings of the intelligence agencies that investigated the 2016 election hacking. They say DNC emails were leaked by someone on the inside.

Trump reportedly told the director of the CIA to meet with a former intelligence official who claims Russia never hacked the DNC

Yes it was a leak, not a hack. But obviously the Democrats will do everything in their power to prevent that truth from coming to light. His demise is very questionable. What really happened?

Seth wasn't the only death. 4 deaths. In three weeks. You had Joe Montano, who was the Chairman of the DNC before Debbie Wasserman Shultz died of a heart attack at age 47 even though he had no history of heart issues. You had Victor Thorn who had written a book about the Clintons supposedly committing suicide even though he had just scored a huge international book deal.

AND Shawn Lucas who served the DNC/Wasserman Schulz with class action lawsuit papers over the rigging of the primary.

But of course these must be all coincidences. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket. Four men all tied in to the DNC/Clinton/Kaine all suffered Arkancide.

Imagine living your life being a conspiracy theorist and having no concept of reality.

To me the murder of Seth Rich is simply an unsolved murder. One theory is political operatives offed him. The other theory is that it was a botched robbery.

There is no evidence for either theory. Plain and simple. Murder mystery.

We have real concrete evidence that the trump campaign colluded with Russians but you won’t touch that one will you.
All for the power and glory of your Russian whore president.

 

[tinydancer]

Experts believe that it wasn't a hack job but a leak from inside.

A former intelligence official who claims that Russia did not hack the Democratic National Committee in 2016 reportedly met with CIA Director Mike Pompeo in late October at the request of President Donald Trump.

• The official was part of a group of intelligence veterans whose report contradicts the findings of the intelligence agencies that investigated the 2016 election hacking. They say DNC emails were leaked by someone on the inside.

Trump reportedly told the director of the CIA to meet with a former intelligence official who claims Russia never hacked the DNC

Yes it was a leak, not a hack. But obviously the Democrats will do everything in their power to prevent that truth from coming to light. His demise is very questionable. What really happened?

Seth wasn't the only death. 4 deaths. In three weeks. You had Joe Montano, who was the Chairman of the DNC before Debbie Wasserman Shultz died of a heart attack at age 47 even though he had no history of heart issues. You had Victor Thorn who had written a book about the Clintons supposedly committing suicide even though he had just scored a huge international book deal.

AND Shawn Lucas who served the DNC/Wasserman Schulz with class action lawsuit papers over the rigging of the primary.

But of course these must be all coincidences. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket. Four men all tied in to the DNC/Clinton/Kaine all suffered Arkancide.

Imagine living your life being a conspiracy theorist and having no concept of reality.

To me the murder of Seth Rich is simply an unsolved murder. One theory is political operatives offed him. The other theory is that it was a botched robbery.

There is no evidence for either theory. Plain and simple. Murder mystery.

Go reread your own post above where you attribute a long list of murders to the Clinton’s. Do u think you write in invisible ink?

Did I say that I believed that those four deaths were undeniably caused by the Clintons or the DNC? No I didn't. I just brought up the deaths and made a joke about Arkancide. Since when on the USMB is one not allowed to discuss theories or issues?

Want to show me the new rule? One should be able to discuss theories without having to believe in one or another. Well unless you're part of the thought police.

 

[tinydancer]

Experts believe that it wasn't a hack job but a leak from inside.

A former intelligence official who claims that Russia did not hack the Democratic National Committee in 2016 reportedly met with CIA Director Mike Pompeo in late October at the request of President Donald Trump.

• The official was part of a group of intelligence veterans whose report contradicts the findings of the intelligence agencies that investigated the 2016 election hacking. They say DNC emails were leaked by someone on the inside.

Trump reportedly told the director of the CIA to meet with a former intelligence official who claims Russia never hacked the DNC

Yes it was a leak, not a hack. But obviously the Democrats will do everything in their power to prevent that truth from coming to light. His demise is very questionable. What really happened?

Seth wasn't the only death. 4 deaths. In three weeks. You had Joe Montano, who was the Chairman of the DNC before Debbie Wasserman Shultz died of a heart attack at age 47 even though he had no history of heart issues. You had Victor Thorn who had written a book about the Clintons supposedly committing suicide even though he had just scored a huge international book deal.

AND Shawn Lucas who served the DNC/Wasserman Schulz with class action lawsuit papers over the rigging of the primary.

But of course these must be all coincidences. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket. Four men all tied in to the DNC/Clinton/Kaine all suffered Arkancide.

Imagine living your life being a conspiracy theorist and having no concept of reality.

To me the murder of Seth Rich is simply an unsolved murder. One theory is political operatives offed him. The other theory is that it was a botched robbery.

There is no evidence for either theory. Plain and simple. Murder mystery.

We have real concrete evidence that the trump campaign colluded with Russians but you won’t touch that one will you.
All for the power and glory of your Russian whore president.

What evidence? I know Hillary and the DNC colluded with not only the Russians that they paid but also worked with the Ukrainians to smear the Trump campaign.

 

[Care4all]

I don't get it. Seth Rich gave Wikileaks the DNC and Crooked Hillary emails. Everyone knows that. It is not a conspiracy theory.

idiot! everyone KNOWS he didn't give the emails to wikileaks, but your ilk, comrade

 

[Esmeralda]

What number is Seth Rich on the dead Clinton associates list? 40 or 50 or is it more than that?

Damn.... that tin foil hat you wear has cut off all of your oxygen

Clinton death list...
The List of Clinton Associates Who Allegedly Died Mysteriously. Check It Out.

Has been debunked repeatedly. Only an idiot would believe such a fantasy.

 

[conserveguy877]

Who killed Seth Rich?

 

[conserveguy877]

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"This whole thing has caused unbelievable damage to my life and my family," he said. "And the idea that somebody has capitalized is ridiculous. It just doesn't make any sense to me."

 

[Doc1]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

The conspiracy theories are all yours. Every one of them. From Hillary to Obama.

Is that what your "inside" sources tell you?

 

[Coyote]

And a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge FYI. Seth's father doesn't seem to really give a shit about finding his son's killer/killers. Only that Seth wouldn't be blamed for Clinton losing the election to Trump.

What a champ!

Now you are attacking his family too?

 

[Coyote]

This is going to make the tin foil hat crowd's heads explode.

The family of slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against Fox News, one of the network's reporters, and a wealthy Texas businessman over their roles in the publication of a baseless conspiracy theory about Rich's 2016 death.
The lawsuit, filed in US District Court for the Southern District of New York, seeks compensation for "mental anguish and emotional distress, emotional pain and suffering, and any other physical and mental injuries."


"No parent should ever have to live through what we have been forced to endure," Joel and Mary Rich said in statement Tuesday night. "The pain and anguish that comes from seeing your murdered son's life and legacy treated as a mere political football is beyond comprehension."

The lawsuit said that Malia Zimmerman, the Fox News reporter named in the lawsuit, worked with Ed Butowsky, the wealthy businessman, to develop a "sham" story about Rich's death that Fox News published online in May 2017 and referenced on-air multiple times.
Family of slain Democratic staffer Seth Rich sues Fox News

Reasonable if what was stated publicly was TRUE
that's just reporting the news.
If it's infringing on the family's right to their STORY
and they didn't give permission to tell the story much less embellish it for profit,
that's intellectual property or copyright issues.

If it's slander or libel or defamation, that's different.

Do they have to PROVE the statements are true?
or does the complainant side have to PROVE the statements were false?

Just reporting news and causing pain and anguish
may not be enough to show unlawful or wrongful damages.

If they caused pain and suffering because
* they violated the story owners' consent or right to give permission or withhold it,
* they presented misinformation or revealed personal things that WEREN'T public information
that's different, too.

Let's not forget that it's the person who committed the MURDER
who ultimately caused this situation and is to blame for BOTH
causes of anguish to the family -- both the murder itself and the political publicity it generated.

If the media reported accurate statements and facts,
and didn't cross the line into personal information
that is the right of private individuals to give consent or permission to publish,
that is up to the discretion of the reporting company how to handle that.

No matter how much pain and embarrassment it may cause,
reporting a TRUE STORY such as Trump caught with his pants down,
or a teacher is caught with a student in unlawful acts, is still
legal to publish if it is accurate news (and isn't falsely stating
or defaming/libeling someone for something they didn't do).

I would have advised Fox to respect the wishes of the family
and work out a better arrangement than this. Provided Fox did not
publish anything false or wrongful, then in place of punishment for the suffering
caused, I would recommend that Fox help with restitution to the family by
using their media resources and political support to push investigation
into the case, ensuring it is resolved and prosecuted, and all parties
held responsible including for restitution to the surviving family.

Fox cannot help if just reporting the news caused additional pain and anguish,
but it can make up for exploiting this case by helping to solve it
and bring justice to that grieving family for all they have suffered,
in private and in public, using media pressure to go after the real killers responsible!!!

They published a story they knew was false. In fact they even had to edit and make up quotes to support it. When it came out what they had done, they just doubled down. No reporters even got fired.

 

[Coyote]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Fuck off with that shit Esmeralda. The problem with conspiracy theories is that when no one in law enforcement is forthcoming with the truth, when information is hidden it leaves the barn door wide open for theories on a murder.

Oh and maybe someone should inform the family, the media's defence is always "absence of malice". Great movie to understand how the media gets away with this shit. Sally Fields and Paul Newman.

I highly recommend it.

Yes...that was a great movie!

 

[tinydancer]

And a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge FYI. Seth's father doesn't seem to really give a shit about finding his son's killer/killers. Only that Seth wouldn't be blamed for Clinton losing the election to Trump.

What a champ!

Now you are attacking his family too?

Making an observation. Take it any way you want.

 

[tinydancer]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Fuck off with that shit Esmeralda. The problem with conspiracy theories is that when no one in law enforcement is forthcoming with the truth, when information is hidden it leaves the barn door wide open for theories on a murder.

Oh and maybe someone should inform the family, the media's defence is always "absence of malice". Great movie to understand how the media gets away with this shit. Sally Fields and Paul Newman.

I highly recommend it.

Yes...that was a great movie!

That it was. My only take on all of this is that it's a murder mystery. And right or wrong there are going to be conspiracy theories. And btw I lay the blame for the majority of conspiracy theories on those who don't put out all the information they can into the public forum.

Facts and evidence are like bleach to clean up dirty theories.

 

[Papageorgio]

It seems like poor journalism, the sources were bad, the story retracted, later.

I'm not sure the parents can win a lawsuit as there is a heavy burden of proof. The courts give the First Amendment and the press a lot of leeway.

The press only gives us what we want. The more dirty laundry, the worse the scandal, the bigger the scoop the better the ratings and the more newspapers they sell.

This board is a great example why this crap sells, it is because of all of us.

 

[deanrd]

I don't get it. Seth Rich gave Wikileaks the DNC and Crooked Hillary emails. Everyone knows that. It is not a conspiracy theory.

fool

 

[deanrd]

It seems like poor journalism, the sources were bad, the story retracted, later.

I'm not sure the parents can win a lawsuit as there is a heavy burden of proof. The courts give the First Amendment and the press a lot of leeway.

The press only gives us what we want. The more dirty laundry, the worse the scandal, the bigger the scoop the better the ratings and the more newspapers they sell.

This board is a great example why this crap sells, it is because of all of us.

Not the press.

Fox news. They knew they were lying. But it didn't stop them.

Family of Seth Rich sues Fox News over retracted article

Fox News retracted the article a week after it was published, saying that it did not meet network standards.

Still, the theory about Mr. Rich persisted, cited by prominent conservatives like Newt Gingrich and right-wing broadcasters like Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones of InfoWars. The rumors about Mr. Rich proved useful for pundits seeking to undercut the notion that Russian forces supporting Donald J. Trump's campaign were responsible for the leak.

Sean Hannity, of Fox News, was one of the most vocal proponents of the theory, although he eventually backed off after his network's retraction.

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Republicans, conservatives, right wing, all alternate terms for liars and creeps. Basically, evil people who have no morals or values.

Because of abortion, Republican call people who support the right baby killers. But what we support is not abortion, but the rights of women to have control over their own bodies. It's all about the rights of women.

This is similar. Republicans and conservative lying. Making one thing into another.
Is it any surprise? Remember, these people see a monster like Donald Trump as a "role model" and a "cultural leader".