Family of slain Democratic staffer Seth Rich sues Fox News

[Reasonable]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

 

[tinydancer]

And a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge FYI. Seth's father doesn't seem to really give a shit about finding his son's killer/killers. Only that Seth wouldn't be blamed for Clinton losing the election to Trump.

What a champ!

 

[tinydancer]

This is going to make the tin foil hat crowd's heads explode.

The family of slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against Fox News, one of the network's reporters, and a wealthy Texas businessman over their roles in the publication of a baseless conspiracy theory about Rich's 2016 death.
The lawsuit, filed in US District Court for the Southern District of New York, seeks compensation for "mental anguish and emotional distress, emotional pain and suffering, and any other physical and mental injuries."


"No parent should ever have to live through what we have been forced to endure," Joel and Mary Rich said in statement Tuesday night. "The pain and anguish that comes from seeing your murdered son's life and legacy treated as a mere political football is beyond comprehension."

The lawsuit said that Malia Zimmerman, the Fox News reporter named in the lawsuit, worked with Ed Butowsky, the wealthy businessman, to develop a "sham" story about Rich's death that Fox News published online in May 2017 and referenced on-air multiple times.
Family of slain Democratic staffer Seth Rich sues Fox News

Reasonable if what was stated publicly was TRUE
that's just reporting the news.
If it's infringing on the family's right to their STORY
and they didn't give permission to tell the story much less embellish it for profit,
that's intellectual property or copyright issues.

If it's slander or libel or defamation, that's different.

Do they have to PROVE the statements are true?
or does the complainant side have to PROVE the statements were false?

Just reporting news and causing pain and anguish
may not be enough to show unlawful or wrongful damages.

If they caused pain and suffering because
* they violated the story owners' consent or right to give permission or withhold it,
* they presented misinformation or revealed personal things that WEREN'T public information
that's different, too.

Let's not forget that it's the person who committed the MURDER
who ultimately caused this situation and is to blame for BOTH
causes of anguish to the family -- both the murder itself and the political publicity it generated.

If the media reported accurate statements and facts,
and didn't cross the line into personal information
that is the right of private individuals to give consent or permission to publish,
that is up to the discretion of the reporting company how to handle that.

No matter how much pain and embarrassment it may cause,
reporting a TRUE STORY such as Trump caught with his pants down,
or a teacher is caught with a student in unlawful acts, is still
legal to publish if it is accurate news (and isn't falsely stating
or defaming/libeling someone for something they didn't do).

I would have advised Fox to respect the wishes of the family
and work out a better arrangement than this. Provided Fox did not
publish anything false or wrongful, then in place of punishment for the suffering
caused, I would recommend that Fox help with restitution to the family by
using their media resources and political support to push investigation
into the case, ensuring it is resolved and prosecuted, and all parties
held responsible including for restitution to the surviving family.

Fox cannot help if just reporting the news caused additional pain and anguish,
but it can make up for exploiting this case by helping to solve it
and bring justice to that grieving family for all they have suffered,
in private and in public, using media pressure to go after the real killers responsible!!!

One star isn't enough.

 

[Esmeralda]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

 

[tinydancer]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Fuck off with that shit Esmeralda. The problem with conspiracy theories is that when no one in law enforcement is forthcoming with the truth, when information is hidden it leaves the barn door wide open for theories on a murder.

Oh and maybe someone should inform the family, the media's defence is always "absence of malice". Great movie to understand how the media gets away with this shit. Sally Fields and Paul Newman.

I highly recommend it.

 

[gipper]

Why was Seth Rich gunned down in the street but not robbed?

...and NO ONE has yet been apprehended or charged for his murder. I wonder if ANYONE in the DC police dept. is even working the case.

Could the Clintonistas be helping the family sue Fox News? Certainly a possibility.

 

[gipper]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Come on! That lawsuit is going nowhere.

It is purely a publicity stunt to dupe dummies...don't be a dummy.

 

[Esmeralda]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Fuck off with that shit Esmeralda. The problem with conspiracy theories is that when no one in law enforcement is forthcoming with the truth, when information is hidden it leaves the barn door wide open for theories on a murder.

Oh and maybe someone should inform the family, the media's defence is always "absence of malice". Great movie to understand how the media gets away with this shit. Sally Fields and Paul Newman.

I highly recommend it.

The issue of conspiracy theories is that people like you have zero critical thinking skills. You don't even know what critical thinking skills are you are so mentally warped.

 

[Esmeralda]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Come on! That lawsuit is going nowhere.

It is purely a publicity stunt to dupe dummies...don't be a dummy.

This is just reprehensible the way you people show such animosity and viciousness toward a family that suffered immeasurable pain due to a foolish, politically motivated conspiracy theory. You should feel shame, but you haven't got the balls to be honest with yourself.

 

[SavannahMann]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

On what basis? Libel for news organizations has the highest standard for winning against them. Remember the movie Absence of Malice? It is perfectly legal for a reporter to state something he or she believes to be true. Even if it later turns out to be false. So long as the information is believed to be true, or reasonable, at the time of the publication, it’s perfectly legal. That’s the basis of the whole freedom of the press thing. You might have had it covered in Civics class.

To win the lawsuit, the family would have to prove that the people reporting knew the information was false. Good luck with that. Remember Richard Jewell, the rent a cop who saw the suspicious backpack and saved lives during the Olympic Park Bombing? Well the medial listed him as the primary suspect for months, and after he was cleared, which took the FBI months, Jewell sued the news organizations that had reported on the story. All but one settled, the one was the Atlanta Journal Constitution. The newspaper won based upon the fact that the information was substantively true at the time it was published.

FindLaw's Court of Appeals of Georgia case and opinions.

So if the reporter and pundits believe it is true, they can’t be found to have committed libel. It caused us pain is not enough. Otherwise the family of Jon Benet Ramsey, remember her, would have made enough money off of television and newspapers to buy one of the Caribbean Nations by now.

 

[gipper]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Come on! That lawsuit is going nowhere.

It is purely a publicity stunt to dupe dummies...don't be a dummy.

This is just reprehensible the way you people show such animosity and viciousness toward a family that suffered immeasurable pain due to a foolish, politically motivated conspiracy theory. You should feel shame, but you haven't got the balls to be honest with yourself.

WTF are talking about? I did none of that.

 

[Ted Frazier]

This is going to make the tin foil hat crowd's heads explode.

The family of slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against Fox News, one of the network's reporters, and a wealthy Texas businessman over their roles in the publication of a baseless conspiracy theory about Rich's 2016 death.
The lawsuit, filed in US District Court for the Southern District of New York, seeks compensation for "mental anguish and emotional distress, emotional pain and suffering, and any other physical and mental injuries."


"No parent should ever have to live through what we have been forced to endure," Joel and Mary Rich said in statement Tuesday night. "The pain and anguish that comes from seeing your murdered son's life and legacy treated as a mere political football is beyond comprehension."

The lawsuit said that Malia Zimmerman, the Fox News reporter named in the lawsuit, worked with Ed Butowsky, the wealthy businessman, to develop a "sham" story about Rich's death that Fox News published online in May 2017 and referenced on-air multiple times.
Family of slain Democratic staffer Seth Rich sues Fox News

Kick

 

[Esmeralda]

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Come on! That lawsuit is going nowhere.

It is purely a publicity stunt to dupe dummies...don't be a dummy.

This is just reprehensible the way you people show such animosity and viciousness toward a family that suffered immeasurable pain due to a foolish, politically motivated conspiracy theory. You should feel shame, but you haven't got the balls to be honest with yourself.

WTF are talking about? I did none of that.

You can't even own up to your deplorable behavior. Figures.

"you people show such animosity and viciousness toward a family that suffered immeasurable pain"

You claim they are suing for publicity and political reasons. You are one sick puppy. Shame on you, shame shame shame.

 

[gipper]

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Come on! That lawsuit is going nowhere.

It is purely a publicity stunt to dupe dummies...don't be a dummy.

This is just reprehensible the way you people show such animosity and viciousness toward a family that suffered immeasurable pain due to a foolish, politically motivated conspiracy theory. You should feel shame, but you haven't got the balls to be honest with yourself.

WTF are talking about? I did none of that.

You can't even own up to your deplorable behavior. Figures.

"you people show such animosity and viciousness toward a family that suffered immeasurable pain"

You should seek mental help.

 

[Esmeralda]

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

Come on! That lawsuit is going nowhere.

It is purely a publicity stunt to dupe dummies...don't be a dummy.

This is just reprehensible the way you people show such animosity and viciousness toward a family that suffered immeasurable pain due to a foolish, politically motivated conspiracy theory. You should feel shame, but you haven't got the balls to be honest with yourself.

WTF are talking about? I did none of that.

You can't even own up to your deplorable behavior. Figures.

"you people show such animosity and viciousness toward a family that suffered immeasurable pain"

You should seek mental help.

Very ironic. Look in the mirror bozo.

 

[paperview]

Good grief! If conspiracy theories become fodder for lawsuits the Kennedys can count on mega bucks. Hell's bells, the Trumps can have a blast with all the media too!

You people don't give a shit how much pain you cause innocent people. Despicable.

Thought control now over conspiracy theories?

Why how fascist of you!!!!! Let's get right to it. Seth was the victim. He was a political operative. He was murdered along with two other D's in one month.

No answers = conspiracy theories. Happens all the time. Sorry for their loss but until you progressive whack jobs manage to legislate thought control people will speculate.

It's not against the law.

The parents will win the lawsuit and that will punish so called journalists for publishing lies. Lies that stupid people like you believe; you are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the American psyche.

On what basis? Libel for news organizations has the highest standard for winning against them. Remember the movie Absence of Malice? It is perfectly legal for a reporter to state something he or she believes to be true. Even if it later turns out to be false. So long as the information is believed to be true, or reasonable, at the time of the publication, it’s perfectly legal. That’s the basis of the whole freedom of the press thing. You might have had it covered in Civics class.

To win the lawsuit, the family would have to prove that the people reporting knew the information was false. Good luck with that. Remember Richard Jewell, the rent a cop who saw the suspicious backpack and saved lives during the Olympic Park Bombing? Well the medial listed him as the primary suspect for months, and after he was cleared, which took the FBI months, Jewell sued the news organizations that had reported on the story. All but one settled, the one was the Atlanta Journal Constitution. The newspaper won based upon the fact that the information was substantively true at the time it was published.

FindLaw's Court of Appeals of Georgia case and opinions.

So if the reporter and pundits believe it is true, they can’t be found to have committed libel. It caused us pain is not enough. Otherwise the family of Jon Benet Ramsey, remember her, would have made enough money off of television and newspapers to buy one of the Caribbean Nations by now.

You've got some catching up to do.

 

[Valerie]

there is an investigation going on and i'm sure it CAN be proven that slimy political hacks completely fabricated fake news.

also, during the discovery process, evidence just may point to that very purpose as the twisted motive itself. ^



"Seth Rich's death has become a conspiracy célèbre for supporters of Donald Trump, who have co-opted it to cast suspicion on Hillary Clinton and away from Trump."

Seth Rich: What You Need To Know About Discredited Fox News Story


From Russia With Blood

 

[paperview]

"The lawsuit said that Malia Zimmerman, the Fox News reporter named in the lawsuit, worked with Ed Butowsky, the wealthy businessman, to develop a "sham" story about Rich's death that Fox News published online in May 2017 and referenced on-air multiple times.ABC News first reported on the Rich family's lawsuit.

Zimmerman's story said Rod Wheeler, a private investigator and Fox News contributor hired by Butowsky to look into Rich's death, had learned that Wikileaks had been in contact with Rich prior to his death. The story suggested without real evidence that Rich had leaked a trove of DNC emails to Wikileaks and further suggested that his death, which police suspect was a botched robbery, was retribution for the supposed leak.

Within hours, however, the Fox News story fell apart when Wheeler, who is now suing Fox News over the story, told CNN he had no evidence to suggest Rich had contacted Wikileaks before his death.

But Fox News left the story up on its website for days and guests continued to mention the conspiracy theory on its air. The network ultimately retracted the story seven days after it was published.

The Rich family lawsuit said the actions taken by the defendants "were so outrageous in character and so extreme in degree as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency and are atrocious and utterly intolerable in a civilized community."

Since Fox News published its baseless story, the Rich family has been open about the pain it has inflicted upon them. Aaron Rich, the brother of Seth Rich, sent a letter to Hannity days after Fox News published its story, telling him that continuing to cover the story would "cause us additional pain, suffering and sorrow." Joel Rich later told NPR that the publication of Fox News' story was "almost as bad for us as when we first learned of Seth's death."

Family of slain Democratic staffer Seth Rich sues Fox News

Malice.

 

[Valerie]

we already know that wiki leaks asked team trump to fabricate fake news regarding the election supposedly being "rigged".

 

[Valerie]

we also know that wiki leaks correspondence with team trump admitted to their ties with russia and support for trump.