Facts about Terry Schiavo

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    I know we have discussed this topic extensively, however I was sent some information that is very specific to this case so I thought it warranted posting as back then we may not have had all the facts...........Interpret them as you wish, there is no web address for this unfortunately.


    My name is Bob Schindler. My wife Mary, and I have been fighting this case for over ten years. It has exhausted us physically and emotionally, and it has exhausted us financially.

    Terry as you may know, suffered brain damage due to an unexplained (and suspicious "collapse" in 1990, when she was only 26 years old.

    She is severly disabled.......she IS NOT BRAIN DEAD. And she is not in a persistant vegetative state, and she is not being kept alive by extraordinary means, she is being kept alive with food and water!!

    Especially in the early years after the 'accident,' Terry was very aware of things that went on around her in the nursing home. she would laugh and smile, say hi, respond to questions, sit in a chair, and interact with the nurses, and she was able to eat soft food just like any other patient in her condition.

    Quite often, over the years, Terri would even tell the nurses, "Help me".

    However, a couple of years after Terri's collapse, her husband (as her legal guardian) won a large award in a malpractice lawsuit on Terri's behalf. Almost immediately, he gave STRICT orders that she was not to be given any rehabilitation or physical therapy]--even though that's what the money (1.2 million dollars) was supposed to pay for.

    Michael also put a "Do Not Resuscitate" order on Terri's chart. He tried to prevent the nurses from treating Terri's infections and would not allow her to socialize with any other patients. Additionally Terri had not been given the opportunity to be weaned off the feeding tube so that she could take food and water by mouth (even though two esteemed speech pathologists say she has an excellent prognosis for being taken off her feeding tube). I nstead Michael has required that Terri just lay in bed for more than ten years, attached to that feeding tube.

    Michael wants Terri to die, why? we suspect because he stands to inherit the remaining money from the malpractice lawsuit that's in Terri's trust account.

    (Incidently, Michael is on record saying that he could never order the withdrawal of Terri's life support. BUT, after the money came in, he changed his mind and stopped Terri's rehabilitation. And it wasn't until 1998 that he suddenly "remembered" that Terri once told him, long before the accident, that she would not want to be kept alive "artificially" if anything ever happened to her. How convenient.)

    Michaal is has been living with another woman and has fathered two children with her, but he can't marry this woman because he is still married to Terri and she is still alive.

    Michael has used half the malpractice award money that was supposed to be spent on Terri's rehabilitaiton on lawyers to have have Terri starved to death. Michael has been claiming that Terri is in a persistant vegetative state, but she is NOT...........

    Our experts long ago confirmed that Terri could achieve significant recovery and lead a long and happy life if she were given proper rehab. Michael refuses this.

    Three of Terri's former nurses came foward with sworn affidavits about Michael's behavior when Terri was in the nursing home. One of the most shocking things they revealed is that Michael said often "when is she going to die", and "when is that bitch gonna die". Nurse Carla Iyer attested that Michael said, "Can't anything be done to accelerate her death? Won't she ever die?" She said whne Terri wouldn't die after a particular illness, such as pneumonia, Michael would become furious.

    Michael gave strict orders to not allow us her parents to have any information about our daughter.

    Under Michael's control, nothing was done for Terri at all. NO antibiotics. NO tests. NO "range of motion" therapy. NO stimulation. NO rehab. NOTHING.

    When Terri would take a turn for the worse Michael would tell the nurses "Hallelulah! You've made my day, Im going to be rich", often telling them all the new things he was going to buy such as cars, a new boat, a trip to Europe.......

    A physician who cinducted a bone scan on Terri Dr. W. Campbell Walker, wrote in a report that, "Terri has a history of trauma", mostly to her ribs, her lumbar vertrebrae, her sacroiliac joints (near the hip) both her ankles and both her knees.
    New York forensic pathologist Dr Michael Baden who was contacted by the media, looked at the report and concluded, "it shows evidence that there are bone fractures that are in a healing stage...The trauma could be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It's something that should have been investigated in 1991." But we never saw this report. and when we sought to have it investigated after finding it last year, the courts refused to permit it.

    Michael wants her dead by starvation and dehydration, and the ACLU, AARP, and the Hemolck Society are all helping him to do this.

    According to medical pathology, she will go from thirst to extreme thirst. she is likely to cry and moan until she is so dehydrated, she won't have tears and her mouth will be too dry and cracked to make sounds. she may have nose bleeds as the mocous dries out
    She will experience nausea, vomiting, and cramps as her intestines and stomach lining dehydrate. she will have dizziness, as well as cramping in th arms and legs as her electrolytes get out of balance. Eventually, it will be too much for her body to handle, and she will die.




    This is my daughter!!!!
     
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    The letter is very emotionally effective, however I wonder at the actual source.

    Without more information I could not effectively deliver a judgement for either side.
     
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    www.terrisfight.org.

    :)

    Good thread, Bonnie.


    Frankly, it's scary to realize that if Terri were a Fetus, she could be killed w/ no questions asked.
     
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    It's written by her father. I doubt he is lying as he has witnesses to back him up. The way I chose to read this was from two points of view, one fromt he dad's perspective, and the other just extrapalating the facts about her actual conditon and the wittness testimony. I think if I were to poke around I may be able to back up the facts as they are.
     
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    I happened to see on the news an anti death penalty gathering for some man who was found guilty of mudering a family while they slept, and I couldn't help but wonder if any of those people would brave the cold or even just stand outside an abortion death house to protest those murders??
     
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    Here is a blog that has some of what the witnesses have said.

    http://m-blog.com/?14.&id=1066869538127262.&
     
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    Not to be a party pooper but what medical degree does Dad have? For every expert Dad has produced, Michael has produced one that says she's beyond hope. It's like the old saying says, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.
    As far as the "suspicious collapse" is concerned it seems pretty clear from photos that Terri was starving herself and that could be a major reason for her collapse (it obviously didn't do Karen Carpenter much good).
    My wife has told me that if something like that were to happen to her, she would want me to pull the plug. I have it in writing, just in case.
     
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    both sites are interesting......thanks for posting...Im looking for something on Baden's review of Terri's files.
     
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    I'm trying to get as much information as possible. If I come across something like that I will post it as well. This is fascinating to me.

    It seems like Michael has few allies in his battle and therefore information regarding his side of the issue is more difficult to come by.
     

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