Fact is fact, Tea Partiers are extremists

[Meister]

Make no mistake, this bill was the foundation for UHS. It may take 20-30 years, but it's coming. This is what barry has wanted all along, and he can get there with this bill.

 

[kitty]

Willow -

Why is "if you like the insurance you have you can keep it" a lie? Is there something in the bill that says otherwise? Would you point me to it, please?

Thanks!

he took away medicare advantage.. far as I know everybody liked it asswipe.

Ah I see. He cut a government program and you're unhappy about that?

 

[WillowTree]

Willow -

Why is "if you like the insurance you have you can keep it" a lie? Is there something in the bill that says otherwise? Would you point me to it, please?

Thanks!

he took away medicare advantage.. far as I know everybody liked it asswipe.

Ah I see. He cut a government program and you're unhappy about that?

What he did was lie..

 

[Meister]

Willow -

Why is "if you like the insurance you have you can keep it" a lie? Is there something in the bill that says otherwise? Would you point me to it, please?

Thanks!

he took away medicare advantage.. far as I know everybody liked it asswipe.

Ah I see. He cut a government program and you're unhappy about that?

At least the majority of Americans were in favor of it....I don't recall anyone complaining that it was being shoved down our throats....do you?

 

[kitty]

go sell that bullshit on the other side of the street,, what happened to "If you like the insurance you have you can keep it?? another big fat assed lie.

It isn't bull shit. You can still keep your same plan.

I think you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that you bought into a propoganda camapign that was full of lies.

You can keep your own plan with a massive increase in premiums due to the freebies given out, and due to the pre existing conditions. Someone is going to pay for those, because the doctors, and hospitals aren't into the charity business....and the insurance companies aren't either.

So you want the people with pre-existing conditions who can't get or can't afford coverage to just die?

 

[WillowTree]

he took away medicare advantage.. far as I know everybody liked it asswipe.

Ah I see. He cut a government program and you're unhappy about that?

At least the majority of Americans were in favor of it....I don't recall anyone complaining that it was being shoved down our throats....do you?

 

[Meister]

Willow -

Why is "if you like the insurance you have you can keep it" a lie? Is there something in the bill that says otherwise? Would you point me to it, please?

Thanks!

he took away medicare advantage.. far as I know everybody liked it asswipe.

Ah I see. He cut a government program and you're unhappy about that?

By cutting that program....how much did we really save? hmmmmm?

 

[WillowTree]

It isn't bull shit. You can still keep your same plan.

I think you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that you bought into a propoganda camapign that was full of lies.

You can keep your own plan with a massive increase in premiums due to the freebies given out, and due to the pre existing conditions. Someone is going to pay for those, because the doctors, and hospitals aren't into the charity business....and the insurance companies aren't either.

So you want the people with pre-existing conditions who can't get or can't afford coverage to just die?

no we want to go to work every single day so we can hand over the sugar tittties you people think you are entitled to. that's what we want .

 

[kitty]

You can keep your own plan with a massive increase in premiums due to the freebies given out, and due to the pre existing conditions. Someone is going to pay for those, because the doctors, and hospitals aren't into the charity business....and the insurance companies aren't either.

So you want the people with pre-existing conditions who can't get or can't afford coverage to just die?

no we want to go to work every single day so we can hand over the sugar tittties you people think you are entitled to. that's what we want .

Hahahaha...you're funny!

I know people who go to work every single day, and work two jobs, and STILL can't afford or get health insurance because of their pre-existing conditions. But you're right, you got yours, and if they can't take of themselves, that's their tough luck. It's the American Way.

 

[Zoom-boing]

I don't know if this amendment got voted on or tabled, but this is one of the amendments that Senator Coburn proposed.

If You Like the Health Plan You Have, You Can Keep It.

President Obama promised that Americans who like their health care plan would be able to keep it. However, the Congressional Budget Office has said that millions of people will lose their current coverage under The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Unfortunately, for many Americans, the reconciliation bill is even worse news, as it made changes to some grandfathering provisions. The changes to grandfathering provisions would mean that individuals with guaranteed renewable plans in the individual market will NOT be able to keep their current coverage at the current price, but would immediately be issued a new policy and charged more. This amendment strikes changes to grandfathered plans, so Americans who like the health care they have actually can keep it.

Health Reform and Viagra for Sex Offenders? - The Note

 

[Meister]

It isn't bull shit. You can still keep your same plan.

I think you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that you bought into a propoganda camapign that was full of lies.

You can keep your own plan with a massive increase in premiums due to the freebies given out, and due to the pre existing conditions. Someone is going to pay for those, because the doctors, and hospitals aren't into the charity business....and the insurance companies aren't either.

So you want the people with pre-existing conditions who can't get or can't afford coverage to just die?

Your telling me your an idiot?
Please try not to project in what I'm saying....your not very good at it obviously? There are other ways to deal with that problem, like through medicaid....as it is now. It doesn't take an overhaul of our entire healthcare system to acheive what you and I want....unless your for a socilized healthcare system.
You seem, to forget that 80%+ are happy with their insurance plan. You seem to forget that the majority of Americans think this bill down right sucks.....along with a lot of democrats, and that includes a lot of politicians that needed to be bribed to get it passed.

 

[Zoom-boing]

So you want the people with pre-existing conditions who can't get or can't afford coverage to just die?

no we want to go to work every single day so we can hand over the sugar tittties you people think you are entitled to. that's what we want .

Hahahaha...you're funny!

I know people who go to work every single day, and work two jobs, and STILL can't afford or get health insurance because of their pre-existing conditions. But you're right, you got yours, and if they can't take of themselves, that's their tough luck. It's the American Way.

I don't have a problem with covering pre-existing conditions. I don't have a problem with many of the changes, per say. I have a huge problem with the government taking over 1/6 of the economy and I have a huge problem with the government shoving their fucking 'reform' down our throats. I have a huge problem with big government, period.

 

[WillowTree]

So you want the people with pre-existing conditions who can't get or can't afford coverage to just die?

no we want to go to work every single day so we can hand over the sugar tittties you people think you are entitled to. that's what we want .

Hahahaha...you're funny!

I know people who go to work every single day, and work two jobs, and STILL can't afford or get health insurance because of their pre-existing conditions. But you're right, you got yours, and if they can't take of themselves, that's their tough luck. It's the American Way.

I got mine cause I worked for it. now I gotta work for yours asswipe. cause you damn dumb democrats are too damn dumb to take care of yourselves,, you gotta have a damn nanny state. so hard working Americans get to go to work to buy health insurance for prostitutes n pimps and drug users and drug pushers,, and we're gonna love every single damn minute of it..

 

[WillowTree]

I don't know if this amendment got voted on or tabled, but this is one of the amendments that Senator Coburn proposed.

If You Like the Health Plan You Have, You Can Keep It.

President Obama promised that Americans who like their health care plan would be able to keep it. However, the Congressional Budget Office has said that millions of people will lose their current coverage under The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Unfortunately, for many Americans, the reconciliation bill is even worse news, as it made changes to some grandfathering provisions. The changes to grandfathering provisions would mean that individuals with guaranteed renewable plans in the individual market will NOT be able to keep their current coverage at the current price, but would immediately be issued a new policy and charged more. This amendment strikes changes to grandfathered plans, so Americans who like the health care they have actually can keep it.

Health Reform and Viagra for Sex Offenders? - The Note

every single amendment was tabled including the one that said if premiums go up the whole plan gets scrapped.. democwats don't want to live by their word..

 

[Zoom-boing]

I don't know if this amendment got voted on or tabled, but this is one of the amendments that Senator Coburn proposed.

If You Like the Health Plan You Have, You Can Keep It.

President Obama promised that Americans who like their health care plan would be able to keep it. However, the Congressional Budget Office has said that millions of people will lose their current coverage under The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Unfortunately, for many Americans, the reconciliation bill is even worse news, as it made changes to some grandfathering provisions. The changes to grandfathering provisions would mean that individuals with guaranteed renewable plans in the individual market will NOT be able to keep their current coverage at the current price, but would immediately be issued a new policy and charged more. This amendment strikes changes to grandfathered plans, so Americans who like the health care they have actually can keep it.

Health Reform and Viagra for Sex Offenders? - The Note

every single amendment was tabled including the one that said if premiums go up the whole plan gets scrapped.. democwats don't want to live by their word..

Didn't it go back to the House for something?

 

[kitty]

You can keep your own plan with a massive increase in premiums due to the freebies given out, and due to the pre existing conditions. Someone is going to pay for those, because the doctors, and hospitals aren't into the charity business....and the insurance companies aren't either.

So you want the people with pre-existing conditions who can't get or can't afford coverage to just die?

Your telling me your an idiot?
Please try not to project in what I'm saying....your not very good at it obviously? There are other ways to deal with that problem, like through medicaid....as it is now. It doesn't take an overhaul of our entire healthcare system to acheive what you and I want....unless your for a socilized healthcare system.
You seem, to forget that 80%+ are happy with their insurance plan. You seem to forget that the majority of Americans think this bill down right sucks.....along with a lot of democrats, and that includes a lot of politicians that needed to be bribed to get it passed.

Medicaid is granted based on income levels. Some people who are above those levels (middle class) still cannot get or afford health insurance.

I haven't forgotten the polls, and I haven't forgotten the 20% who aren't happy, or the uncounted people who don't have coverage at all.

If we want to make health CARE (not insurance) affordable for everyone, we need to greatly reduce for-profit insurance companies' participation in the system. Their existence, and the level of control they have over access to health care, adds quite a bit to the final cost that we pay.

 

[Avatar4321]

Cutting taxes reduces revenue. There is no place to cut spending. The Reps just had an opportunity to cut $500 billion from Medicare and ran against cutting it.

Mandatory spending Medicare and SS are the areas that are killing us. Try running a campaign telling granny you are going to cut her healthcare(medicare) and her living(Social Security).

Never happen.

What do you mean there is no place to cut spending? You telling me we need to be spending trillions more in money than 2 years ago? There isnt any waste to cut?

And cutting taxes increases economic activity and increased econimic activity increase revenues.

 

[WillowTree]

so in conclusion the dumbass lied and the democwats can't answer for that..

 

[kitty]

no we want to go to work every single day so we can hand over the sugar tittties you people think you are entitled to. that's what we want .

Hahahaha...you're funny!

I know people who go to work every single day, and work two jobs, and STILL can't afford or get health insurance because of their pre-existing conditions. But you're right, you got yours, and if they can't take of themselves, that's their tough luck. It's the American Way.

I got mine cause I worked for it. now I gotta work for yours asswipe. cause you damn dumb democrats are too damn dumb to take care of yourselves,, you gotta have a damn nanny state. so hard working Americans get to go to work to buy health insurance for prostitutes n pimps and drug users and drug pushers,, and we're gonna love every single damn minute of it..

I've got mine too because I worked for it. I'm lucky, and so are you. A lot of people have lost their jobs, and because health insurance is usually (and unfortunately) tied to employment, they've lost their insurance as well. I don't mind paying a little more to help people out. Having said that, of course some people abuse the system. But are you going to penalize people who really really need the help?

What am I saying? Of course you are. That's what your posts are all about.

 

[WillowTree]

I don't know if this amendment got voted on or tabled, but this is one of the amendments that Senator Coburn proposed.



Health Reform and Viagra for Sex Offenders? - The Note

every single amendment was tabled including the one that said if premiums go up the whole plan gets scrapped.. democwats don't want to live by their word..

Didn't it go back to the House for something?

it did but it was a technicality of some sort the thieves "fixed it" and voted it through,, so we have a takeover of the healthcare and the education system by a one party rule totalatarian state.. that's what we have.