Fact is fact, Tea Partiers are extremists

[amrchaos]

Know I called them monkeys, mainly because they do a good job of fling poop and not facts.

That makes you a monkey, v2.

Facts are facts, the Tea Party started during Obama's presidental campaign with their lies about Obama being a Muslim, Socialist, and being born outside the US, hell one old retard even believed he was Arab. They're prime examples of what politicians can do with uneducated, uninformed, ignorant people. They're walking zombies. If Limbaugh, Beck or Palin said Obama was really a Martian from space in disguise Tea partiers would believe it, I'd bet they'd even "find" Martian to back up their statements.

Actually, the tea parties started after Obama won the elction and took office.

 

[Liability]

Extremely mentally retarded, extremely full of hate, extremely deluded, extremely uneducated, extreme deluded, and above all, extremely pissed off angry at having a black president as leader of a still majority white country, and you are also extremely pissed that your ancestors who ran the slave plantations didn't envision this.

yeah,, you have played that black president bullshit for a full year,, I'm sure it does piss people off to have that estremely dumbassed argument shoved into their faces,, i bet a lot of people will rethink it before they do it again so by your logic we can sit here and say you racist black people were against President George W. Bush because he was white. what a monumental fail you and your black president are..

The truth hurts doesn't it? I've hit a nerve, you're mad angry because you have a black president and its eating you from inside really bad, because you feel threatened by a black man in charge.

When you racists see things, you see everything as black and white. Because you are a racist, you think racism is the norm. Because you are a racist pig dog, you ASSume that others are racists, too.

But your ASSumption is wrong.

It is because YOU are the racist that you ASSume others are even when it's just you.

Are there some racists who object to President Obama because he's part black? Sure. The world is full of vile racist assholes like you.

But most conservatives who object to President Obama don't object on the basis of race. Race matters primarily to you racists, not to us.

We object to President Obama because he's a fucking horribly lousy and dangerous President. That's a matter entirely outside of his race. It's his stupid ideology and his lack of experience.

 

[amrchaos]

Why wouldnt upholding the Constitution be considered extreme by people who want to progress past it?

Because the Constitution is a radically Bad ass legal document that a bunch of colonial anachists put together in their challenge to the most powerful nation of the 18th century!!

To practice is revolutionary, Get it?

 

[WillowTree]

Why wouldnt upholding the Constitution be considered extreme by people who want to progress past it?

Because the Constitution is a radically Bad ass legal document that a bunch of colonial anachists put together in their challenge to the most powerful nation of the 18th century!!

To practice is revolutionary, Get it?

a communist comes outta da closet.

 

[DE3]

The Tea Party is a group of disaffected folks.

They totally bought into the Republican campaign rhetoric, of lower taxes, smaller government, etc.. That rhetoric became ideology. The problem was that that rhetoric was never ever actionable in governance. While the Reps spouting the rhetoric knew it wasn't actionable they knew it would bring in votes. And it certainly did. Well the Reps couldn't deliver, but the masses they kept spouting this rhetoric to, still believe it to be possible. Hence the Tea Party movement. A large froup that has bought into a false ideology.

My question is what are these folks going to do when they lose at the ballot box and are faced with the reality that their ideology is false???

and what exactly is unactionable about cutting taxes and spending?

Cutting taxes reduces revenue. There is no place to cut spending. The Reps just had an opportunity to cut $500 billion from Medicare and ran against cutting it.

Mandatory spending Medicare and SS are the areas that are killing us. Try running a campaign telling granny you are going to cut her healthcare(medicare) and her living(Social Security).

Never happen.

 

[WillowTree]

The Tea Party is a group of disaffected folks.

They totally bought into the Republican campaign rhetoric, of lower taxes, smaller government, etc.. That rhetoric became ideology. The problem was that that rhetoric was never ever actionable in governance. While the Reps spouting the rhetoric knew it wasn't actionable they knew it would bring in votes. And it certainly did. Well the Reps couldn't deliver, but the masses they kept spouting this rhetoric to, still believe it to be possible. Hence the Tea Party movement. A large froup that has bought into a false ideology.

My question is what are these folks going to do when they lose at the ballot box and are faced with the reality that their ideology is false???

and what exactly is unactionable about cutting taxes and spending?

Cutting taxes reduces revenue. There is no place to cut spending. The Reps just had an opportunity to cut $500 billion from Medicare and ran against cutting it.

Mandatory spending Medicare and SS are the areas that are killing us. Try running a campaign telling granny you are going to cut her healthcare(medicare) and her living(Social Security).

Never happen.

you fucking dems did do it, cut 560 billion dollars out from under the people who need care the most, and not to save money but to give it to somebody else.. wealth re distribution is marxist to the fucking core.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Right-wing extremists taint Tea Party protests, hurt conservative cause | The Eagle Online

This was from a conservative on conservatives. The Tea Partiers are sick extremist monkeys with severe mental issues and are in need of help.

Yeah, that's some people thought that about these guys too.

When you believe lies are the truth and believe it as gospel something is wrong.

You would obviously be the authority on wrong.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Facts are facts, the Tea Party started during Obama's presidental campaign with their lies about Obama being a Muslim, Socialist, and being born outside the US, hell one old retard even believed he was Arab.

First of all, Obama is a Socialist. End of story.

Secondly, the whole Muslim accusation along with the "birthers" came about before the tea parties started. One has nothing to do with the other.

They're prime examples of what politicians can do with uneducated, uninformed, ignorant people.

Yes, the result of that is the welfare state and the election of Barack Obama.

 

[DE3]

and what exactly is unactionable about cutting taxes and spending?

Cutting taxes reduces revenue. There is no place to cut spending. The Reps just had an opportunity to cut $500 billion from Medicare and ran against cutting it.

Mandatory spending Medicare and SS are the areas that are killing us. Try running a campaign telling granny you are going to cut her healthcare(medicare) and her living(Social Security).

Never happen.

you fucking dems did do it, cut 560 billion dollars out from under the people who need care the most, and not to save money but to give it to somebody else.. wealth re distribution is marxist to the fucking core.

That cut, was a cut to private insurance for Medicare Advantage. There are no cuts in services. In fact, the cuts EXTEND the viability of Medicare for 9 more years.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Cutting taxes reduces revenue.

Except when it doesn't.

There is no place to cut spending.

Of course there is.

The Reps just had an opportunity to cut $500 billion from Medicare and ran against cutting it.

That's because they're hypocrites.

Mandatory spending Medicare and SS are the areas that are killing us. Try running a campaign telling granny you are going to cut her health care(medicare) and her living(Social Security).

Never happen.

Bingo.

 

[kitty]

Every group has its fringe elements. The Tea Partiers don't strike me as extremists, but as really really angry people who want a different sort of change.

Socialism, according to dictionary.com, means "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole." Under this definition, neither the health care (insurance) reform bill nor any of President Obama's other ideas are socialist. Opponents like to use words like "socialist" or "Marxist" because they illicit an emotional response, not because they're necessarily true.

Don't equate government regulation with socialism. The fact is, a society and/or government based on pure capitalism cannot work. Regulation is required to ensure that business owners behave responsibly and ethically. Think sweatshops, exploding Pintos, health insurance companies who deny care, etc.

 

[Flopper]

The Tea Party is a group of disaffected folks.

They totally bought into the Republican campaign rhetoric, of lower taxes, smaller government, etc.. That rhetoric became ideology. The problem was that that rhetoric was never ever actionable in governance. While the Reps spouting the rhetoric knew it wasn't actionable they knew it would bring in votes. And it certainly did. Well the Reps couldn't deliver, but the masses they kept spouting this rhetoric to, still believe it to be possible. Hence the Tea Party movement. A large froup that has bought into a false ideology.

My question is what are these folks going to do when they lose at the ballot box and are faced with the reality that their ideology is false???

and what exactly is unactionable about cutting taxes and spending?

Cutting taxes reduces revenue. There is no place to cut spending. The Reps just had an opportunity to cut $500 billion from Medicare and ran against cutting it.

Mandatory spending Medicare and SS are the areas that are killing us. Try running a campaign telling granny you are going to cut her healthcare(medicare) and her living(Social Security).

Never happen.

I agree. There is practically no way to seriously reduce government spending. Neither the Republicans or the Democrats are going to make any serious cuts to Social Security or Medicare. With two wars going, forget about cuts in military spending. Then there is the dinosaur in closet, the interest on the national debt.

We have to increase government revenue either by raising taxes or making our country more productive so we can once again become the greatest economic power on earth.

 

[WillowTree]

Cutting taxes reduces revenue. There is no place to cut spending. The Reps just had an opportunity to cut $500 billion from Medicare and ran against cutting it.

Mandatory spending Medicare and SS are the areas that are killing us. Try running a campaign telling granny you are going to cut her healthcare(medicare) and her living(Social Security).

Never happen.

you fucking dems did do it, cut 560 billion dollars out from under the people who need care the most, and not to save money but to give it to somebody else.. wealth re distribution is marxist to the fucking core.

That cut, was a cut to private insurance for Medicare Advantage. There are no cuts in services. In fact, the cuts EXTEND the viability of Medicare for 9 more years.

go sell that bullshit on the other side of the street,, what happened to "If you like the insurance you have you can keep it?? another big fat assed lie.

 

[kitty]

Willow -

Why is "if you like the insurance you have you can keep it" a lie? Is there something in the bill that says otherwise? Would you point me to it, please?

Thanks!

 

[DE3]

Cutting taxes reduces revenue.

Except when it doesn't.

There is no place to cut spending.

Of course there is.

The Reps just had an opportunity to cut $500 billion from Medicare and ran against cutting it.

That's because they're hypocrites.

Mandatory spending Medicare and SS are the areas that are killing us. Try running a campaign telling granny you are going to cut her health care(medicare) and her living(Social Security).

Never happen.

Bingo.

Except when it doesn't.

Never has, never will.

It is an economic impossibility. The federal government on average historically takes 20% of GDP. To suggest that a 1% tax cut is going to make the other 99% grow as such a rate that that 1% grows to 500%, so we get that 20% back is beyond any level of reasoning. No economist in the world would suggest that. Only politicans.

Of course there is.

Politically, there really isn't.

 

[DE3]

you fucking dems did do it, cut 560 billion dollars out from under the people who need care the most, and not to save money but to give it to somebody else.. wealth re distribution is marxist to the fucking core.

That cut, was a cut to private insurance for Medicare Advantage. There are no cuts in services. In fact, the cuts EXTEND the viability of Medicare for 9 more years.

go sell that bullshit on the other side of the street,, what happened to "If you like the insurance you have you can keep it?? another big fat assed lie.

It isn't bull shit. You can still keep your same plan.

I think you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that you bought into a propoganda camapign that was full of lies.

 

[Meister]

I'd bet Bass is another card carrying member of Mediamatters, dailyKos, Hufferpost, moveon., the Dnc.

they have all the "talking points" down pat.

Actually the Bass is a free thinking true conservative that refuses to play follow the leader to a bunch of retards called the Republican Party. Is it standard for every deluded Republitard to declare every who disagrees with their BS a liberal or covert agent for liberal organizations? There you schizoids go again with yet more conspiracy BS.

Why is the Bass such a hater? Is it because he's a black racist against the old white Americans?

 

[WillowTree]

Willow -

Why is "if you like the insurance you have you can keep it" a lie? Is there something in the bill that says otherwise? Would you point me to it, please?

Thanks!

he took away medicare advantage.. far as I know everybody liked it asswipe.

 

[Meister]

That cut, was a cut to private insurance for Medicare Advantage. There are no cuts in services. In fact, the cuts EXTEND the viability of Medicare for 9 more years.

go sell that bullshit on the other side of the street,, what happened to "If you like the insurance you have you can keep it?? another big fat assed lie.

It isn't bull shit. You can still keep your same plan.

I think you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that you bought into a propoganda camapign that was full of lies.

You can keep your own plan with a massive increase in premiums due to the freebies given out, and due to the pre existing conditions. Someone is going to pay for those, because the doctors, and hospitals aren't into the charity business....and the insurance companies aren't either.

 

[WillowTree]

That cut, was a cut to private insurance for Medicare Advantage. There are no cuts in services. In fact, the cuts EXTEND the viability of Medicare for 9 more years.

go sell that bullshit on the other side of the street,, what happened to "If you like the insurance you have you can keep it?? another big fat assed lie.

It isn't bull shit. You can still keep your same plan.

I think you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that you bought into a propoganda camapign that was full of lies.

oh so you are not removing medicare advantage???? tell me?? are you or are you not..