Fact Check : "Trump DID WIN the popular vote

[Care4all]

Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016

Media Bias: Not surprisingly, the media take seriously and support Jill Stein's and Hillary Clinton's excellent vote-recount adventure, despite there being no indication a recount is needed. Heck, even President Obama agrees — Donald Trump won, period. But when Trump dares to suggest in a Sunday tweet that illegal aliens voted in the election, the media respond with massive denial.

But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.


"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

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There you have folks . DJT is FACTUALLY CORRECT. HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE

Furthermore, Obama Hellcare is also UNCONSTITUTIONAL becuase the demo_rats acquired their super majority through voter fraud.

well, right off the bat, you KNOW that they don't know what they are talking about....

obamacare passed without needing 60 votes.... it passed with 56 or 57 votes....

so, if they are wrong on that comment, more than likely, suspect on their other assumptions....

plus i believe that study was debunked

and also, it is LEGAL Immigrants that are more likely to register to vote, who are waiting to become naturalized citizens...thinking it is their civic duty is what another study said, and not realizing they were not suppose to vote until their citizenship came through....

AND LEGAL Immigrants supported Trump more, and did not think it was fair to give amnesty to ILLEGAL immigrants because they had to wait years to become citizens the LEGAL way....

So even if there are immigrants voting, these immigrants more than likely are the legal immigrants awaiting naturalization and supported Trump....

Even in Florida, the Hispanic vote went to Trump over Hillary...

So if all of this were true, about immigrants voting illegally, you have NO IDEA WHO THEY VOTED FOR......none, zip, zilch....

And lastly, why wouldn't republicans in congress be like bees on honey investigating this MASSIVE voter fraud CLAIM???

 

[S.J.]

Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016

Media Bias: Not surprisingly, the media take seriously and support Jill Stein's and Hillary Clinton's excellent vote-recount adventure, despite there being no indication a recount is needed. Heck, even President Obama agrees — Donald Trump won, period. But when Trump dares to suggest in a Sunday tweet that illegal aliens voted in the election, the media respond with massive denial.

But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.


"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

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There you have folks . DJT is FACTUALLY CORRECT. HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE

Furthermore, Obama Hellcare is also UNCONSTITUTIONAL becuase the demo_rats acquired their super majority through voter fraud.

well, right off the bat, you KNOW that they don't know what they are talking about....

obamacare passed without needing 60 votes.... it passed with 56 or 57 votes....

so, if they are wrong on that comment, more than likely, suspect on their other assumptions....

plus i believe that study was debunked

and also, it is LEGAL Immigrants that are more likely to register to vote, who are waiting to become naturalized citizens...thinking it is their civic duty is what another study said, and not realizing they were not suppose to vote until their citizenship came through....

AND LEGAL Immigrants supported Trump more, and did not think it was fair to give amnesty to ILLEGAL immigrants because they had to wait years to become citizens the LEGAL way....

So even if there are immigrants voting, these immigrants more than likely are the legal immigrants awaiting naturalization and supported Trump....

Even in Florida, the Hispanic vote went to Trump over Hillary...

So if all of this were true, about immigrants voting illegally, you have NO IDEA WHO THEY VOTED FOR......none, zip, zilch....

And lastly, why wouldn't republicans in congress be like bees on honey investigating this MASSIVE voter fraud CLAIM???

I like you, Care4all, but you're naïve as hell.

 

[edthecynic]

Why would illegals risk deportation to vote?????

There is nothing more preposterous than the very assumption that people in hiding will risk detection both when they try to register and again when they try to vote!!!

Geeezzzzz, this proven lie again! When will you stupid SUCKERS find some new lies to mindlessly parrot?????

Even if you take the side that Obama in that video intended to say that only US citizen's can vote, he also said that the voter rolls would not be turned over to an agency for investigation. In other words, if a noncitizen is able to register, there is little danger of being caught.

No, he said the she, AS A US CITIZEN, had the privacy of her vote protected and HER family will not be harassed by the CON$ervoFascists.

She said she calls illegals "citizens". Obama said "If you vote, you're a citizen". Clearly, they both see illegals as citizens.

The typical Right-wing lying by taking words in a quote and slicing and dicing them and mixing them up and dropping others out to fabricate a fake quote to support their lies.

The "you" of "when you vote, you are a citizen yourself" was Rodriguez herself, NOT the illegals SHE calls citizens. But you knew that when you crafted your lie.

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.

 

[g5000]

I'm a big proponent of the electoral college system.

Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin won the election, piss drinkers. Be happy!

Grow up.

Says the piss drinker in a topic about three million imaginary illegal Mexican voters.

 

[JoeMoma]

Why would illegals risk deportation to vote?????

There is nothing more preposterous than the very assumption that people in hiding will risk detection both when they try to register and again when they try to vote!!!

Geeezzzzz, this proven lie again! When will you stupid SUCKERS find some new lies to mindlessly parrot?????

Even if you take the side that Obama in that video intended to say that only US citizen's can vote, he also said that the voter rolls would not be turned over to an agency for investigation. In other words, if a noncitizen is able to register, there is little danger of being caught.

No, he said the she, AS A US CITIZEN, had the privacy of her vote protected and HER family will not be harassed by the CON$ervoFascists.

She said she calls illegals "citizens". Obama said "If you vote, you're a citizen". Clearly, they both see illegals as citizens.

Obvious Obama did not dispute what she said.

 

[BULLDOG]

I think there should be a formal investigation to determine what percentage of the vote is by non Us citizens in each state. If a state has a significant % of non citizens (ineligible voters) voting, steps should be taken to fix the problem.

Good idea. Why don't you take care of that this afternoon?

Of course I as a civilian individual could not do that all by myself. But would you have a problem if the Feds investigated each state? If there isn't significant voter fraud, wouldn't it be nice to be verified by an independent source. Are you going to just take the word of the sec. of state of each state. Do you believe that politicians don't lie?

I believe witch hunts for any reason are a waste of time and money.

 

[Contumacious]

Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016

Media Bias: Not surprisingly, the media take seriously and support Jill Stein's and Hillary Clinton's excellent vote-recount adventure, despite there being no indication a recount is needed. Heck, even President Obama agrees — Donald Trump won, period. But when Trump dares to suggest in a Sunday tweet that illegal aliens voted in the election, the media respond with massive denial.

But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.


"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

***********************
There you have folks . DJT is FACTUALLY CORRECT. HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE

Furthermore, Obama Hellcare is also UNCONSTITUTIONAL becuase the demo_rats acquired their super majority through voter fraud.

well, right off the bat, you KNOW that they don't know what they are talking about....

obamacare passed without needing 60 votes.... it passed with 56 or 57 votes....

so, if they are wrong on that comment, more than likely, suspect on their other assumptions....

plus i believe that study was debunked

and also, it is LEGAL Immigrants that are more likely to register to vote, who are waiting to become naturalized citizens...thinking it is their civic duty is what another study said, and not realizing they were not suppose to vote until their citizenship came through....

AND LEGAL Immigrants supported Trump more, and did not think it was fair to give amnesty to ILLEGAL immigrants because they had to wait years to become citizens the LEGAL way....

So even if there are immigrants voting, these immigrants more than likely are the legal immigrants awaiting naturalization and supported Trump....

Even in Florida, the Hispanic vote went to Trump over Hillary...

So if all of this were true, about immigrants voting illegally, you have NO IDEA WHO THEY VOTED FOR......none, zip, zilch....

And lastly, why wouldn't republicans in congress be like bees on honey investigating this MASSIVE voter fraud CLAIM???

Firstly, the House of representatives NEVER voted on Obamacare as required by Article 1, Section 7, . I know that to the fascists the constitution is irrelevant.

Q:
How many Republicans voted for Obamacare?
A:
QUICK ANSWER
The Affordable Care Act, deemed "Obamacare" by some, received no Republican votes in either the Senate or the House of Representatives. In the Senate, the bill was passed with a total of 60 votes, or 58 Democratic Party votes and 2 Independent Party votes. The House passed the legislation with 219 Democratic votes, notes


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[Contumacious]

Only 4 states require proof of citizenship to register

The heart of the matter comes down voter registration, which is based on an “honor system,” Spakovsky said. “Nobody is checking to make sure those registering to vote are citizens.”

Right now, there are only four states that require residents to provide proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate or passport, when they register to vote. Those states are Alabama, Arizona, Georgia and Kansas – all of which backed Trump in November.

 

[Contumacious]

facts do seem to support Trump’s claim that the election is rigged and not just as a result of a biased mainstream media that refuses to cover Hillary’s various scandals. In fact, according to research conducted by the Pew Research Center in 2012, the capacity for voter fraud in the U.S. is substantial with nearly 2mm dead people found to be registered voters and nearly 3mm people registered in multiple states.

• Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate
• More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters
• Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state

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[g5000]

But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.

Here is the Washington Post link to that study: Could non-citizens decide the November election?

Notice what it says:

Note: The post occasioned three rebuttals (here, here, and here) as well as a response from the authors. Subsequently, another peer-reviewed article argued that the findings reported in this post (and affiliated article) were biased and that the authors’ data do not provide evidence of non-citizen voting in U.S. elections.

Read this: Methodological challenges affect study of non-citizens’ voting

And this: What can we learn about the electoral behavior of non-citizens from a survey designed to learn about citizens?

And this: Are non-citizens following American election laws?

And this: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379415001420

 

[candycorn]

Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016

Media Bias: Not surprisingly, the media take seriously and support Jill Stein's and Hillary Clinton's excellent vote-recount adventure, despite there being no indication a recount is needed. Heck, even President Obama agrees — Donald Trump won, period. But when Trump dares to suggest in a Sunday tweet that illegal aliens voted in the election, the media respond with massive denial.

But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.


"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

***********************
There you have folks . DJT is FACTUALLY CORRECT. HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE

Furthermore, Obama Hellcare is also UNCONSTITUTIONAL becuase the demo_rats acquired their super majority through voter fraud.

Total Garbage.

 

[Pop23]

...And in other Alternate truths a triangle has 4 sides but gets its name from trying to appear 3 sided

Aaaaaaaannnnnnnddddddd, rectums are part of the reproductive system.

Right??????

 

[g5000]

Trump Still Believes Millions Voted Illegally: White House

The Trump transition team was previously asked about this topic and cited the Pew study, which came out in 2012 and focused on the results of the 2008 election and the need to update voter registration rolls.

The primary author of the study in question previously responded, tweeting that "the report made no findings re: voter fraud."

 

[Cowman]

Alternate Facts.

 

[S.J.]

Geeezzzzz, this proven lie again! When will you stupid SUCKERS find some new lies to mindlessly parrot?????

Even if you take the side that Obama in that video intended to say that only US citizen's can vote, he also said that the voter rolls would not be turned over to an agency for investigation. In other words, if a noncitizen is able to register, there is little danger of being caught.

No, he said the she, AS A US CITIZEN, had the privacy of her vote protected and HER family will not be harassed by the CON$ervoFascists.

She said she calls illegals "citizens". Obama said "If you vote, you're a citizen". Clearly, they both see illegals as citizens.

The typical Right-wing lying by taking words in a quote and slicing and dicing them and mixing them up and dropping others out to fabricate a fake quote to support their lies.

The "you" of "when you vote, you are a citizen yourself" was Rodriguez herself, NOT the illegals SHE calls citizens. But you knew that when you crafted your lie.

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.

Talk about slicing and dicing quotes. This is why you're not taken seriously.

 

[Ame®icano]

Retard Check: Where's the "credible" proof?

At the same place with proof of Russians hacking our elections.

 

[S.J.]

Geeezzzzz, this proven lie again! When will you stupid SUCKERS find some new lies to mindlessly parrot?????

Even if you take the side that Obama in that video intended to say that only US citizen's can vote, he also said that the voter rolls would not be turned over to an agency for investigation. In other words, if a noncitizen is able to register, there is little danger of being caught.

No, he said the she, AS A US CITIZEN, had the privacy of her vote protected and HER family will not be harassed by the CON$ervoFascists.

She said she calls illegals "citizens". Obama said "If you vote, you're a citizen". Clearly, they both see illegals as citizens.

Obvious Obama did not dispute what she said.

No, he didn't. And honest people acknowledge this fact.

 

[S.J.]

I'm a big proponent of the electoral college system.

Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin won the election, piss drinkers. Be happy!

Grow up.

Says the piss drinker in a topic about three million imaginary illegal Mexican voters.

You never get tired of displaying your immaturity, do you, kid?

 

[keepitreal]

Retard Check: Where's the "credible" proof?

Well, a reporter asked Spicer today about the 3 million
illegal/fraudulent votes and how Trump will ensure the
integrity of future elections.

3 million...about the amount of votes more Hillary had
After the election

 

[Contumacious]

Trump argument bolstered: Clinton could have received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds

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