Fact about d day.....thousands of Americans died because

[Frannie]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches......

Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking?

Who planned this Charlie Brown

 

[SAYIT]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches... Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking? Who planned this Charlie Brown

The pilots flew above the clouds to avoid enemy ground fire … definitely a mistake.

War is not as neat and clean nor as precise as today's weapons would have us believe. In fact, we still have collateral damage and friendly fire incidents.

Some WW2 operations went terribly wrong. General Macarthur's island-hopping plan comes quickly to mind and Montgomery's approach also killed far more than necessary. Both, IMHO, were ego-driven.

 

[Frannie]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches... Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking? Who planned this Charlie Brown

The pilots flew above the clouds to avoid enemy ground fire … definitely a mistake.

War is not as neat and clean nor as precise as today's weapons would have us believe. In fact, we still have collateral damage and friendly fire incidents.

Some WW2 operations went terribly wrong. General Macarthur's island-hopping plan comes quickly to mind and Montgomery's approach also killed far more than necessary. Both, IMHO, were ego-driven.

There should not have been even a living bug on those few beaches where US troops landed. This was one of the biggest fuckups of all time. There were only dozens of German machine gun slots slaughtering boys. Wouldn't a thousand 500lb bombs have cleared the way

 

[Pilot1]

If this is true (I don't know much about the actual plan nor tactics of D Day) this is a travesty. There was no real Luftwaffe left, only 88mm AAA guns which for small, lighter ground attack aircraft aren't much of a threat. They are for large bomber formations, but still why should ground troops bear all the risk?

Send in the fighter bombers to neutralize the AAA, then the heavy bombers to carpet bomb (area bomb) the rest of the defenses.

They other problem was the lack of armor on the beach to clear a path for the unprotected infantry. The logistics is difficult, but they should have come up with a better plan than floating M4 Shermans which mostly SANK.

Today, the planners of D Day would be facing court martials.

 

[gipper]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches... Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking? Who planned this Charlie Brown

The pilots flew above the clouds to avoid enemy ground fire … definitely a mistake.

War is not as neat and clean nor as precise as today's weapons would have us believe. In fact, we still have collateral damage and friendly fire incidents.

Some WW2 operations went terribly wrong. General Macarthur's island-hopping plan comes quickly to mind and Montgomery's approach also killed far more than necessary. Both, IMHO, were ego-driven.

There should not have been even a living bug on those few beaches where US troops landed. This was one of the biggest fuckups of all time. There were only dozens of German machine gun slots slaughtering boys. Wouldn't a thousand 500lb bombs have cleared the way

Wrong. A good example of what I mean is how the US navy and air forces would bomb Japanese held islands often for days, before US troops landed. Only to find the Japanese had survived the bombings almost unscathed.

 

[bodecea]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches......

Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking?

Who planned this Charlie Brown

I love con-servatives in 2019 who never served explainin' all about warfare in WWII....

 

[Missouri_Mike]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches......

Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking?

Who planned this Charlie Brown

Frannie would like you all to know she’s not all that impressed with a military operation of 156,000 troops, thousands of planes, ships, tanks etc in a fluid environment called war didn’t go off exactly as planned.

After all she planned finger sandwiches and lemonade for her book club once. And all the ladies thought it was wonderful.

 

[bodecea]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches... Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking? Who planned this Charlie Brown

The pilots flew above the clouds to avoid enemy ground fire … definitely a mistake.

War is not as neat and clean nor as precise as today's weapons would have us believe. In fact, we still have collateral damage and friendly fire incidents.

Some WW2 operations went terribly wrong. General Macarthur's island-hopping plan comes quickly to mind and Montgomery's approach also killed far more than necessary. Both, IMHO, were ego-driven.

There should not have been even a living bug on those few beaches where US troops landed. This was one of the biggest fuckups of all time. There were only dozens of German machine gun slots slaughtering boys. Wouldn't a thousand 500lb bombs have cleared the way

Wrong. A good example of what I mean is how the US navy and air forces would bomb Japanese held islands often for days, before US troops landed. Only to find the Japanese had survived the bombings almost unscathed.

It's called digging in...pillboxes...concrete bunkers.

 

[jc456]

and the left are shitting on their graves today with the open borders act they've created. Amazing, we keep letting the left control our country and destroy the memories of those who died to make it the great country it was.

 

[Pilot1]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches... Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking? Who planned this Charlie Brown

The pilots flew above the clouds to avoid enemy ground fire … definitely a mistake.

War is not as neat and clean nor as precise as today's weapons would have us believe. In fact, we still have collateral damage and friendly fire incidents.

Some WW2 operations went terribly wrong. General Macarthur's island-hopping plan comes quickly to mind and Montgomery's approach also killed far more than necessary. Both, IMHO, were ego-driven.

There should not have been even a living bug on those few beaches where US troops landed. This was one of the biggest fuckups of all time. There were only dozens of German machine gun slots slaughtering boys. Wouldn't a thousand 500lb bombs have cleared the way

Wrong. A good example of what I mean is how the US navy and air forces would bomb Japanese held islands often for days, before US troops landed. Only to find the Japanese had survived the bombings almost unscathed.

The German defenses were largely ABOVE ground. Not so with the Japanese.

 

[mudwhistle]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches......

Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking?

Who planned this Charlie Brown

I love con-servatives in 2019 who never served explainin' all about warfare in WWII....

I love it when squids who spent their time on a boat try to discuss military tactics with people who actually spent time planning missions in a hostile fire zone.

 

[Frannie]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches... Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking? Who planned this Charlie Brown

The pilots flew above the clouds to avoid enemy ground fire … definitely a mistake.

War is not as neat and clean nor as precise as today's weapons would have us believe. In fact, we still have collateral damage and friendly fire incidents.

Some WW2 operations went terribly wrong. General Macarthur's island-hopping plan comes quickly to mind and Montgomery's approach also killed far more than necessary. Both, IMHO, were ego-driven.

There should not have been even a living bug on those few beaches where US troops landed. This was one of the biggest fuckups of all time. There were only dozens of German machine gun slots slaughtering boys. Wouldn't a thousand 500lb bombs have cleared the way

Wrong. A good example of what I mean is how the US navy and air forces would bomb Japanese held islands often for days, before US troops landed. Only to find the Japanese had survived the bombings almost unscathed.

Actually the japs abandoned the beaches on Okinawa and hid in the hills

 

[bodecea]

and the left are shitting on their graves today with the open borders act they've created. Amazing, we keep letting the left control our country and destroy the memories of those who died to make it the great country it was.

Nice fantasy.

 

[Frannie]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches......

Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking?

Who planned this Charlie Brown

I love con-servatives in 2019 who never served explainin' all about warfare in WWII....

You have the answer of course how 7000 planes all missed a dozen heavy machine guns that were known to be there

 

[BlindBoo]

Nice to be able to be a Monday morning quarterback 75 years later.

It was a winning strategy even with all the tactical mistakes that were made.

 

[Frannie]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches......

Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking?

Who planned this Charlie Brown

Frannie would like you all to know she’s not all that impressed with a military operation of 156,000 troops, thousands of planes, ships, tanks etc in a fluid environment called war didn’t go off exactly as planned.

After all she planned finger sandwiches and lemonade for her book club once. And all the ladies thought it was wonderful.

The German machine gun placements were known, 7000 planes all missed

This is not even possible by chance. The troops went up small areas of beach that were not cleared.

Why

 

[Frannie]

and the left are shitting on their graves today with the open borders act they've created. Amazing, we keep letting the left control our country and destroy the memories of those who died to make it the great country it was.

Nice fantasy.

You are doing the defecating

 

[Frannie]

Nice to be able to be a Monday morning quarterback 75 years later.

It was a winning strategy even with all the tactical mistakes that were made.

I was watching the tube as you said, the problem is that the German machine gun placements were known. No one had the brains to clear them

 

[Maxdeath]

7000 planes all missed their targets on the landing beaches......

Why should any German machine gun have survived 7000 planes attacking?

Who planned this Charlie Brown

There were more then a few points you seem to have missed.
First off we knew it had to be a fast attack. Get in and on the ground. Secure the beach. Germany would could and eventually did bring massive amounts of power against us.
There were millions involved in the invasion. Most untested. To expect those who had never been under fire to react with skill and daring is absolutely ludicrous.
We could not advertise in anyway our intentions. So even the beaches and objectives were kept to last minute.
It is easy to plan, easy to sit back and armchair quarterback. To actually put together such a force. Keeping objectives under wraps at the last minute. Working with essentially green troops. Keeping everything secret. Weather forecasting not being reliable. Weather playing a large part in the timing of the operation. Trying to take as much area as possible as quickly as possible. Against an area heavily defended and able to call up more tanks, troops as quickly as they could. The operation was a resounding success. They did not have guided munitions, body armor, cruise missiles or any of our more modern war equipment.

 

[dannyboys]

If this is true (I don't know much about the actual plan nor tactics of D Day) this is a travesty. There was no real Luftwaffe left, only 88mm AAA guns which for small, lighter ground attack aircraft aren't much of a threat. They are for large bomber formations, but still why should ground troops bear all the risk?

Send in the fighter bombers to neutralize the AAA, then the heavy bombers to carpet bomb (area bomb) the rest of the defenses.

They other problem was the lack of armor on the beach to clear a path for the unprotected infantry. The logistics is difficult, but they should have come up with a better plan than floating M4 Shermans which mostly SANK.

Today, the planners of D Day would be facing court martials.

Yes there were many many fuck-ups but at least we aren't all speaking 'high German' today.
By we I mean only those of us with 'pure lain' German blood lines.
Sort of like today's fucking Islamofascists want everyone on the planet to worship 'Mr. Stinky Fingers'.