'Evil little thing' or defender of the constitution?

[bodecea]

Excuse Mr. Parasite,

but why is is that the "government ", ie, the TAXPAYERS, owe you and your ilk a living?!?!?!?

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Who said anything about "owing a living"?

Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger View Post
A governments job is to take care of the people. That is why we elect them

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Yes...I read that....Who said anything about the government "owing us a living"?

 

[Contumacious]

Who said anything about "owing a living"?

Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger View Post
A governments job is to take care of the people. That is why we elect them

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Yes...I read that....Who said anything about the government "owing us a living"?

OK Vern, what do you mean by "take care of the people"?

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[bodecea]

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Yes...I read that....Who said anything about the government "owing us a living"?

OK Vern, what do you mean by "take care of the people"?

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Schools...roads....infrastructure....police....fire protection....mutual defense...etc.

Nothing about owing us a living. I'm quite amazed that that is the only thing you could think of.

 

[Contumacious]

Yes...I read that....Who said anything about the government "owing us a living"?

OK Vern, what do you mean by "take care of the people"?

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Schools...roads....infrastructure....police....fire protection....mutual defense...etc.

Nothing about owing us a living. I'm quite amazed that that is the only thing you could think of.

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Very interrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrresting.

So you haven't posted anything about government having the authority to steal from "A" in order to support "B"?

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[bodecea]

OK Vern, what do you mean by "take care of the people"?

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Schools...roads....infrastructure....police....fire protection....mutual defense...etc.

Nothing about owing us a living. I'm quite amazed that that is the only thing you could think of.

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Very interrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrresting.

So you haven't posted anything about government having the authority to steal from "A" in order to support "B"?

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Absolutely not.....please feel free to peruse all my posts.

 

[Two Thumbs]

The word "gun" is not in the Constitution. Sorry. Not protected.

now you're just being a moron.

guns are arms, unless you think you know more than the dictionary.

We've just gone thru several posts where people have insisted that if the actual words "Separation of church and state" are not in the Constitution, that separation doesn't exist.

I'm just going by that same policy. If the word "gun(s)" isn't in the 2nd amendment, that protection to keep our guns doesn't exist either.

Unless you want to say that is somehow.....um....."different?"

Then answer my earlier question;

Is the school a Federal school or a state school?

If it's a Fed school, it should probably come down.
If it's a state school, it goes by that states Constitution.

Correct? Or do you support a states right to restrict the right to arms but not too abortion?



hint hint; you're a hypocrite you support one and not the other.

 

[rightwinger]

now you're just being a moron.

guns are arms, unless you think you know more than the dictionary.

We've just gone thru several posts where people have insisted that if the actual words "Separation of church and state" are not in the Constitution, that separation doesn't exist.

I'm just going by that same policy. If the word "gun(s)" isn't in the 2nd amendment, that protection to keep our guns doesn't exist either.

Unless you want to say that is somehow.....um....."different?"

Then answer my earlier question;

Is the school a Federal school or a state school?

If it's a Fed school, it should probably come down.
If it's a state school, it goes by that states Constitution.

Correct? Or do you support a states right to restrict the right to arms but not too abortion?



hint hint; you're a hypocrite you support one and not the other.

The US Constitution trumps any states Constitution.

 

[Two Thumbs]

We've just gone thru several posts where people have insisted that if the actual words "Separation of church and state" are not in the Constitution, that separation doesn't exist.

I'm just going by that same policy. If the word "gun(s)" isn't in the 2nd amendment, that protection to keep our guns doesn't exist either.

Unless you want to say that is somehow.....um....."different?"

Then answer my earlier question;

Is the school a Federal school or a state school?

If it's a Fed school, it should probably come down.
If it's a state school, it goes by that states Constitution.

Correct? Or do you support a states right to restrict the right to arms but not too abortion?



hint hint; you're a hypocrite you support one and not the other.

The US Constitution trumps any states Constitution.

So then you are against every single last law restricting the right to arms?

 

[JoeB131]

Well?

Is Jessica Ahlquist an... "'Evil little thing' or defender of the constitution?" You decide but as for me I vote on the side of the seperation of church and state. You constitutionalists should also.

NYT: Atheist teen forces school to remove prayer - US news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

CRANSTON, R.I. She is 16, the daughter of a firefighter and a nurse, a self-proclaimed nerd who loves Harry Potter and Facebook. But Jessica Ahlquist is also an outspoken atheist who has incensed this heavily Roman Catholic city with a successful lawsuit to get a prayer removed from the wall of her high school auditorium, where it has hung for 49 years.

A federal judge ruled this month that the prayer’s presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional, concluding that it violated the principle of government neutrality in religion.

In the weeks since, residents have crowded school board meetings to demand an appeal, Jessica has received online threats and the police have escorted her at school, and Cranston, a dense city of 80,000 just south of Providence, has throbbed with raw emotion.

State Representative Peter G. Palumbo, a Democrat from Cranston, called Jessica “an evil little thing” on a popular talk radio show. Three separate florists refused to deliver her roses sent from a national atheist group. The group, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has filed a complaint with the Rhode Island Commission for Human Rights...

Speaking as an atheist, this is the kind of behaviro that kind of makes us look like jerks.

that Prayer was not harming her in any way, shape or form. They don't include the text of the offending prayer in the article, but I halfway suspect it was something milquetoast and about as controversial as an motivational poster.

It's kind of distressing that her parents are putting her up to this or encouraging this kind of anti-social behavior.

Correction- They did show the text of the prayer, and it's basically an admonition for the students and teachers to do well. No moralism, no preaching. It was really kind of banal. Like something a seventh grader would write. Oh. Wait. It was written by a seventh grader in 1963. You know, back when seventh graders actually could write instead of taking multiple choice tests.

 

[The T]

We've just gone thru several posts where people have insisted that if the actual words "Separation of church and state" are not in the Constitution, that separation doesn't exist.

I'm just going by that same policy. If the word "gun(s)" isn't in the 2nd amendment, that protection to keep our guns doesn't exist either.

Unless you want to say that is somehow.....um....."different?"

Then answer my earlier question;

Is the school a Federal school or a state school?

If it's a Fed school, it should probably come down.
If it's a state school, it goes by that states Constitution.

Correct? Or do you support a states right to restrict the right to arms but not too abortion?



hint hint; you're a hypocrite you support one and not the other.

The US Constitution trumps any states Constitution.

So you by a few keystrokes have effectively rendered the 9th and 10th Amendments meaningless? Really?

 

[bodecea]

now you're just being a moron.

guns are arms, unless you think you know more than the dictionary.

We've just gone thru several posts where people have insisted that if the actual words "Separation of church and state" are not in the Constitution, that separation doesn't exist.

I'm just going by that same policy. If the word "gun(s)" isn't in the 2nd amendment, that protection to keep our guns doesn't exist either.

Unless you want to say that is somehow.....um....."different?"

Then answer my earlier question;

Is the school a Federal school or a state school?

If it's a Fed school, it should probably come down.
If it's a state school, it goes by that states Constitution.

Correct? Or do you support a states right to restrict the right to arms but not too abortion?



hint hint; you're a hypocrite you support one and not the other.

Schools are run by both local school boards, state depts of ed, now federal dept of eds. And the Constitution applies within states too. Unless you want to make the argument that the 1st amendment does NOT apply in a school.

 

[bodecea]

Then answer my earlier question;

Is the school a Federal school or a state school?

If it's a Fed school, it should probably come down.
If it's a state school, it goes by that states Constitution.

Correct? Or do you support a states right to restrict the right to arms but not too abortion?



hint hint; you're a hypocrite you support one and not the other.

The US Constitution trumps any states Constitution.

So you by a few keystrokes have effectively rendered the 9th and 10th Amendments meaningless? Really?

Wow....you really didn't know that the US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, did you?

 

[bodecea]

Well?

Is Jessica Ahlquist an... "'Evil little thing' or defender of the constitution?" You decide but as for me I vote on the side of the seperation of church and state. You constitutionalists should also.

NYT: Atheist teen forces school to remove prayer - US news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

CRANSTON, R.I. She is 16, the daughter of a firefighter and a nurse, a self-proclaimed nerd who loves Harry Potter and Facebook. But Jessica Ahlquist is also an outspoken atheist who has incensed this heavily Roman Catholic city with a successful lawsuit to get a prayer removed from the wall of her high school auditorium, where it has hung for 49 years.

A federal judge ruled this month that the prayer’s presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional, concluding that it violated the principle of government neutrality in religion.

In the weeks since, residents have crowded school board meetings to demand an appeal, Jessica has received online threats and the police have escorted her at school, and Cranston, a dense city of 80,000 just south of Providence, has throbbed with raw emotion.

State Representative Peter G. Palumbo, a Democrat from Cranston, called Jessica “an evil little thing” on a popular talk radio show. Three separate florists refused to deliver her roses sent from a national atheist group. The group, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has filed a complaint with the Rhode Island Commission for Human Rights...

Speaking as an atheist, this is the kind of behaviro that kind of makes us look like jerks.

that Prayer was not harming her in any way, shape or form. They don't include the text of the offending prayer in the article, but I halfway suspect it was something milquetoast and about as controversial as an motivational poster.

It's kind of distressing that her parents are putting her up to this or encouraging this kind of anti-social behavior.
Correction- They did show the text of the prayer, and it's basically an admonition for the students and teachers to do well. No moralism, no preaching. It was really kind of banal. Like something a seventh grader would write. Oh. Wait. It was written by a seventh grader in 1963. You know, back when seventh graders actually could write instead of taking multiple choice tests.

Anti-social behavior to go thru the legal system to have the U.S. Constitution enforced?


How sad.


And here it is two days later and I am STILL waiting.......this is very disappointing, to say the least.

 

[Contumacious]

The US Constitution trumps any states Constitution.

But you have also stated that the Communist Manifesto trumps the US Constitution.
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[JoeB131]

Speaking as an atheist, this is the kind of behaviro that kind of makes us look like jerks.

that Prayer was not harming her in any way, shape or form. They don't include the text of the offending prayer in the article, but I halfway suspect it was something milquetoast and about as controversial as an motivational poster.

It's kind of distressing that her parents are putting her up to this or encouraging this kind of anti-social behavior.
Correction- They did show the text of the prayer, and it's basically an admonition for the students and teachers to do well. No moralism, no preaching. It was really kind of banal. Like something a seventh grader would write. Oh. Wait. It was written by a seventh grader in 1963. You know, back when seventh graders actually could write instead of taking multiple choice tests.

Anti-social behavior to go thru the legal system to have the U.S. Constitution enforced?

How sad.

And here it is two days later and I am STILL waiting.......this is very disappointing, to say the least.

Just because the constitution gives you the right to act like a douchebag, doesn't mean you have to engage in douchebaggery for the pure fun of it.

Obviously, no one else in that school had a problem with that prayer, and a few of them were probably a bit fond of it. It's fun to screw with things other people enjoy. I mean, why not?

Sorry, not seeing a compelling constitutional interest here. I'm seeing a spoiled brat whose parents are probably too busy trying to be her friend and not her parents.

 

[Seawytch]

Just because the constitution gives you the right to act like a douchebag, doesn't mean you have to engage in douchebaggery for the pure fun of it.

Wow...someone should tell that to Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, Dr. Laura, etc.

and they even PROFIT off of it...

 

[JoeB131]

Just because the constitution gives you the right to act like a douchebag, doesn't mean you have to engage in douchebaggery for the pure fun of it.

Wow...someone should tell that to Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, Dr. Laura, etc.

and they even PROFIT off of it...

And they've all been held to account for it, haven't they.

Coulter has been dropped by nearly every paper that carried her column when she used to be a straight up commentator and not a bomb thrower. I can't remember the last time I saw her on a Cable news station.

Beck got fired by Fox News. Yes, Fox News - for being too crazy and costing them money.

Dr. Laura is off the air now because she said one dumb thing too many.

 

[bodecea]

The US Constitution trumps any states Constitution.

But you have also stated that the Communist Manifesto trumps the US Constitution.
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Oh. Your really gonna have to provide proof that I said any such thing.


Thank you for once again proving that you have no shame. You lie and you alter quotes in order to try to make your....er.....point. And it's just as sweet that tommy the tank engine thanks you for your lies.


This showcasing you for the dishonest person you are is damn easy, I must say.

 

[bodecea]

Just because the constitution gives you the right to act like a douchebag, doesn't mean you have to engage in douchebaggery for the pure fun of it.

Wow...someone should tell that to Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, Dr. Laura, etc.

and they even PROFIT off of it...

Or rosa parks or the little Brown girl. Douchebags for challenging something that all those people thought was just fine for so long.

 

[Full-Auto]

Just because the constitution gives you the right to act like a douchebag, doesn't mean you have to engage in douchebaggery for the pure fun of it.

Wow...someone should tell that to Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, Dr. Laura, etc.

and they even PROFIT off of it...

Or rosa parks or the little Brown girl. Douchebags for challenging something that all those people thought was just fine for so long.

Revisionist memories at there finest.

Fuck Democrats................

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