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Rocco informative as ever,but please answer me this.....If there had Never been the Six Day War....Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67 ??????? And why don't they extract Land from Egypt,Jordan,Syria(I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.??or is that for the future....What is Israel's true intent Rocco...stevetheliq, et al,
Preparedness and the maintenance of technical advances are not inconsistent with the policy understood by all the Regional Players. Several Regional Countries receive military aid of direct support from either the US or Russia. Preparedness against the anti-Israeli forces, which have demonstrated their threat potential in the past, is exactly why the US needs to ensure the Israeli defense capabilities are up to the task.
The 10 Year plan is "old news."
(COMMENT)When did you lose your right eye Rocco because lately a lot of you prose is one eyed (getting embolden because of the Trumpo victory,I know you realise that Bullshit is unsustainable,friend....then what.......Reality of course....did you know that in September 2016 the US and Israel had an agreement where the US will give Israel..$38 Billion(US Taxpayers Money) in Aid(Weaponary) over the next 10 years.stevetheliq, et al,
No, I don't think I said that at all.
(COMMENT)Rocco......Are you telling me now that Israel uses no Violence towards the Palestinians !!!!!!!!You have become a "Coal Fire Man" regrettablyP F Tinmore, et al,
Even your speaker (Eve Bartlett) understands that you are just attempting to justify continued violence with Israel by claiming that they cannot see the border between Israel and Gaza.
(COMMENT)Israel is defending its settler colonial project.
No matter what you might think of the acquisition process, the REALITY is that the Gaza Strip is what it is.
The after that you don't recognize the reality of a real-world situation is (I don't know what) ...
Most Respectfully,
R
There is a great deal of difference between the expression of hostility the Arab Palestinian projects (the unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force [Article 68, GCIV; Article 2(4), UN Ch] --- and --- the Israel behavior response to provocation of such unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the Arab Palestinian.
In fact, Eve Bartlett's little panel completely ignores the consequences of Arab Palestinian provocative behaviors and exaggerates the Arab Palestinian sense of self (as a people and culture) that makes it difficult to get along with the Israelis. The goal of discipline, through military response, is teaching appropriate behaviors. The Arab Palestinian people need to be taught that their actions have consequences. Consequences can be either positive or negative. In the case of Arab Palestinians, threats do not have much teaching value and sometimes have unintended consequences. For example, Arab Palestinian threats have generated unwarranted scrutiny to avoid the Arab Palestinians associated with such threats; singling them out for special security criteria do to the demonstrated threat.
I noticed that the issue of proportionality was discussed at length. But the panel did not discuss to the same extent that the determining factor is in the assessment: What is the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated?
Excerpt From:
U.S. Forces: Challenges Ahead
Author: Colin L. Powell, United States Army (Ret.)
Winter 1992/93
Decisive means and results are always to be preferred, even if they are not always possible. We should always be skeptical when so-called experts suggest that all a particular crisis calls for is a little surgical bombing or a limited attack. When the "surgery" is over and the desired result is not obtained, a new set of experts then comes forward with talk of just a little escalation—more bombs, more men and women, more force. History has not been kind to this approach to war-making. In fact this approach has been tragic—both for the men and women who are called upon to implement it and for the nation. This is not to argue that the use of force is restricted to only those occasions where the victory of American arms will be resounding, swift and overwhelming. It is simply to argue that the use of force should be restricted to occasions where it can do some good and where the good will outweigh the loss of lives and other costs that will surely ensue. Wars kill people. That is what makes them different from all other forms of human enterprise.
The idea behind the "concrete and direct military advantage anticipated" is that the target is not putting more forces at risk. When a military response is required, you must use enough force to positively achieve the "concrete and direct military advantage anticipated." Nowhere has this failure of a military force been more evident.
As the International Community became involved and listened more and more to the Arab Palestinians, the protection of life has actually decreased. The Arab Palestinian periodically provokes a military confrontation and the restricted military response does not achieve the goal of a decisive victory, and the Arab Palestinian brings another provocative series of attacks forward, and the Israelis respond again. And so on. This happend :
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Arab Palestinians are never quite crushed to the point that the conflict is over. That is as much the fault of the International Community and it is anyone's. The International Community, whines like no tomorrow for the Israelis to stop; never letting the Israelis reach the point of crushing the Arab Palestinians to the point that they no longer have the will to continue with the conflict and move into the peaceful nation building mode.
- First Intifada (1987–1993) - First large-scale Palestinian uprising against Israel in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
- Second Intifada (2000–2005) - Second Palestinian uprising, a period of intensified violence, which began in late September 2000.
- Gaza War (December 2008 - January 2009) -
- Operation Pillar of Defense (November 2012) - Military offensive on the Gaza Strip.
- Operation Protective Edge (July–August 2014) - Military offensive on the Gaza Strip
Most Respectfully,
R
Whether or not the status quo is "unsustainable" was not the issue. The current US position on Israel dates back to the JCSM 373-67 (Joints Chiefs of Staff Meme to the POTUS); as adjusted to meet the changing threat and political environment. The JCSM Memo marked the first driver (JUN 1967) on the position that the US would maintain up until the 21st Century. But that is not the real issue.
The Elephant in the Room is based in the knowledge that the Arab Palestinians show no signs that they are going to approach the Peace from the goal that:
(“Allahu Akbar! [God is great]” and “Mawt lil-Yahud! [Death to the Jews]”)
• Israel be dismantled and replaced with a tyrannical Arab Majority,
• Weaken Israel to the point that the Arab Palestinian can defeat them.
.........---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------..........
There is nothing new with these chants. But the UN and the various International Court Systems (by their actions or lack of) have given the appearance of granting undue advantage to the Arab Palestinian that has shaken the faith (much like the Dreyfus affair) that justice can be obtained for either the Jew or the Jewish Nation.
Most Respectfully,
R
(COMMENT)Rocco informative as ever,but please answer me this.....If there had Never been the Six Day War....Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67 ??????? And why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.??or is that for the future....What is Israel's true intent Rocco...steve
I wasn't trying to be Bias at all Rocco,just pointing out factual events of more Palestinian Land being acquired(stolen)with No Compensation or Agreement by Israel or the Palestinian Land holders....infact the Land was Stolen by Israel...Why...To build settlement for Settlers who really are in the Majority Converted Non Jew into Judiasm/Zionists....The Synthetics I refer to.....What is right or my right, appropriating Palestinian Land for myself just because I became a Jewish Convert .....Morally there is NON....but you Blithely say "The Middle East(Palestine)bears no resemblance in the present day"...You were happy enough in 1948 to have your borders,why now and since 48 has this attitude changed.steve ps Anyone can say the Basic Problem and do as they please.....the basic problem is the Israelis want to see the elimination of the Palestinian People....It is Shameful...that is why the world is against Israel continually...The Crown Prince of Comedy and Lies,your Mr Trump(yes the man who believes that there is No Global Warming and thinks the EARTH IS FLAT)you think gives you some sort of Credibility and Moral High Ground.....He does not...The Man is a Blithering Idiot.....The world are never going to stand around and be dictated to, by a Baffoon like him,or the Zionists....You are an Intelligent Man Rocco(I do like you personally)But why do you like to persist in the unbridled support of such people...in only a one-eyed way when you know better Rocco...I have always said you are not a Fool,so start showing some responsibility on these issues,instead of your stall purveying RED HERRINGS all the time..because that is Basic,friend.......... Boringly SO.stevetheliq, et al,
The basic problem, especially in this question, revolves around the dilemma of determinism. We (you and me) do not know:
• If Israeli actions were controlled by a causal chain of preceding events? --- OR ---
• If Israeli actions were controlled by external influence? --- OR ---
• If the Jewish Leadership making the decisions for the people of Israel were making those decisions independent of the events (intern or external)?
(COMMENT)Rocco informative as ever,but please answer me this.....If there had Never been the Six Day War....Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67 ??????? And why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.??or is that for the future....What is Israel's true intent Rocco...steve
On the matter of: "Why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.?
Second: Your question is Biased and hypothetical from the start: Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67.
∆ The Sykes-Picot Agreement Line of May 1916 (Area "A" and Area "B") basically started with the boundary between the Sanjak Beirut and the Province of Lebanon until it intersected with the boundary between the Sanjak of Damascus and the Sanjak of Hauran; just north of the Sea of Galilee to the Jordan River. The Vilayet of Beirut consisted of three Sanjak to the north (Provence of Lebanon, and the Sanjaks of Tripoli andLatakia) and three Sanjaks to the south (Beirut, Acre, Balqa). This was the old
While other pieces of the Sykes-Picot Agreement remnants are around even today, in general, it can be said that the Middle East bears no resemblance to the present day.
"The agreement led to the division of Turkish-held Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine into various French- and British-administered areas. Negotiations were begun in November 1915, and the final agreement took its name from its negotiators, Sir Mark Sykes of Britain and François Georges-Picot of France." [The SECRET Syke-Picot Arrangement (now more than a century old) came more than a year before the Nov 1917 Balfour Agreement.]
WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopædia BritannicaLAST UPDATED: 5-31-2016 See Article History
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I learned (the hard way) to avoid speculation without a clear understanding of the element to an event; and --- seldom allow hypotheticals to entrap you. It can be corrosive to one's career. Like everything else taken to excess, honesty can become the noose by which you are hanged.
Most Respectfully,
• Prior to 1988, there was no such autonomous Government of Palestine. So in reality, nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians. The West Bank was sovereign Jordanian territory and the Gaza Strip was a former Egyptian Military Governorship.
• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
R
theliq, et al,
The basic problem, especially in this question, revolves around the dilemma of determinism. We (you and me) do not know:
• If Israeli actions were controlled by a causal chain of preceding events? --- OR ---
• If Israeli actions were controlled by external influence? --- OR ---
• If the Jewish Leadership making the decisions for the people of Israel were making those decisions independent of the events (intern or external)?
(COMMENT)Rocco informative as ever,but please answer me this.....If there had Never been the Six Day War....Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67 ??????? And why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.??or is that for the future....What is Israel's true intent Rocco...steve
On the matter of: "Why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.?
Second: Your question is Biased and hypothetical from the start: Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67.
∆ The Sykes-Picot Agreement Line of May 1916 (Area "A" and Area "B") basically started with the boundary between the Sanjak Beirut and the Province of Lebanon until it intersected with the boundary between the Sanjak of Damascus and the Sanjak of Hauran; just north of the Sea of Galilee to the Jordan River. The Vilayet of Beirut consisted of three Sanjak to the north (Provence of Lebanon, and the Sanjaks of Tripoli andLatakia) and three Sanjaks to the south (Beirut, Acre, Balqa). This was the old
While other pieces of the Sykes-Picot Agreement remnants are around even today, in general, it can be said that the Middle East bears no resemblance to the present day.
"The agreement led to the division of Turkish-held Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine into various French- and British-administered areas. Negotiations were begun in November 1915, and the final agreement took its name from its negotiators, Sir Mark Sykes of Britain and François Georges-Picot of France." [The SECRET Syke-Picot Arrangement (now more than a century old) came more than a year before the Nov 1917 Balfour Agreement.]
WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopædia BritannicaLAST UPDATED: 5-31-2016 See Article History
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I learned (the hard way) to avoid speculation without a clear understanding of the element to an event; and --- seldom allow hypotheticals to entrap you. It can be corrosive to one's career. Like everything else taken to excess, honesty can become the noose by which you are hanged.
Most Respectfully,
• Prior to 1988, there was no such autonomous Government of Palestine. So in reality, nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians. The West Bank was sovereign Jordanian territory and the Gaza Strip was a former Egyptian Military Governorship.
• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
R
I have never said that or believe that at all......but I will point out that there are more Synthetic Jews CONVERTS living in Israel than Semetic Jews with lineage to Abraham....Amusing how FILTH like you call me "Islamo Nazi Scum".....(WHICH IS A CONTRADICTION IN TERMS) when it was you very Zionists that COLLABORATED WITH HITLER AND THE NAZIS<AND HELPED SEND MILLIONS OF JEWS TO THE GAS CHAMBERS,Men,Women and Children and Babies.theliq, et al,
The basic problem, especially in this question, revolves around the dilemma of determinism. We (you and me) do not know:
• If Israeli actions were controlled by a causal chain of preceding events? --- OR ---
• If Israeli actions were controlled by external influence? --- OR ---
• If the Jewish Leadership making the decisions for the people of Israel were making those decisions independent of the events (intern or external)?
(COMMENT)Rocco informative as ever,but please answer me this.....If there had Never been the Six Day War....Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67 ??????? And why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.??or is that for the future....What is Israel's true intent Rocco...steve
On the matter of: "Why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.?
Second: Your question is Biased and hypothetical from the start: Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67.
∆ The Sykes-Picot Agreement Line of May 1916 (Area "A" and Area "B") basically started with the boundary between the Sanjak Beirut and the Province of Lebanon until it intersected with the boundary between the Sanjak of Damascus and the Sanjak of Hauran; just north of the Sea of Galilee to the Jordan River. The Vilayet of Beirut consisted of three Sanjak to the north (Provence of Lebanon, and the Sanjaks of Tripoli andLatakia) and three Sanjaks to the south (Beirut, Acre, Balqa). This was the old
While other pieces of the Sykes-Picot Agreement remnants are around even today, in general, it can be said that the Middle East bears no resemblance to the present day.
"The agreement led to the division of Turkish-held Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine into various French- and British-administered areas. Negotiations were begun in November 1915, and the final agreement took its name from its negotiators, Sir Mark Sykes of Britain and François Georges-Picot of France." [The SECRET Syke-Picot Arrangement (now more than a century old) came more than a year before the Nov 1917 Balfour Agreement.]
WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopædia BritannicaLAST UPDATED: 5-31-2016 See Article History
View attachment 108900
I learned (the hard way) to avoid speculation without a clear understanding of the element to an event; and --- seldom allow hypotheticals to entrap you. It can be corrosive to one's career. Like everything else taken to excess, honesty can become the noose by which you are hanged.
Most Respectfully,
• Prior to 1988, there was no such autonomous Government of Palestine. So in reality, nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians. The West Bank was sovereign Jordanian territory and the Gaza Strip was a former Egyptian Military Governorship.
• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
R
Don't treat Theliq with any validity as he insists that every Jew who ever lived in Israel converted the day before moving there.
He is a piece of lying, Islamo Nazi scum.
How your Jewish mom?I have never said that or believe that at all......but I will point out that there are more Synthetic Jews CONVERTS living in Israel than Semetic Jews with lineage to Abraham....Amusing how FILTH like you call me "Islamo Nazi Scum".....(WHICH IS A CONTRADICTION IN TERMS) when it was you very Zionists that COLLABORATED WITH HITLER AND THE NAZIS<AND HELPED SEND MILLIONS OF JEWS TO THE GAS CHAMBERS,Men,Women and Children and Babies.theliq, et al,
The basic problem, especially in this question, revolves around the dilemma of determinism. We (you and me) do not know:
• If Israeli actions were controlled by a causal chain of preceding events? --- OR ---
• If Israeli actions were controlled by external influence? --- OR ---
• If the Jewish Leadership making the decisions for the people of Israel were making those decisions independent of the events (intern or external)?
(COMMENT)Rocco informative as ever,but please answer me this.....If there had Never been the Six Day War....Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67 ??????? And why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.??or is that for the future....What is Israel's true intent Rocco...steve
On the matter of: "Why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.?
Second: Your question is Biased and hypothetical from the start: Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67.
∆ The Sykes-Picot Agreement Line of May 1916 (Area "A" and Area "B") basically started with the boundary between the Sanjak Beirut and the Province of Lebanon until it intersected with the boundary between the Sanjak of Damascus and the Sanjak of Hauran; just north of the Sea of Galilee to the Jordan River. The Vilayet of Beirut consisted of three Sanjak to the north (Provence of Lebanon, and the Sanjaks of Tripoli andLatakia) and three Sanjaks to the south (Beirut, Acre, Balqa). This was the old
While other pieces of the Sykes-Picot Agreement remnants are around even today, in general, it can be said that the Middle East bears no resemblance to the present day.
"The agreement led to the division of Turkish-held Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine into various French- and British-administered areas. Negotiations were begun in November 1915, and the final agreement took its name from its negotiators, Sir Mark Sykes of Britain and François Georges-Picot of France." [The SECRET Syke-Picot Arrangement (now more than a century old) came more than a year before the Nov 1917 Balfour Agreement.]
WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopædia BritannicaLAST UPDATED: 5-31-2016 See Article History
View attachment 108900
I learned (the hard way) to avoid speculation without a clear understanding of the element to an event; and --- seldom allow hypotheticals to entrap you. It can be corrosive to one's career. Like everything else taken to excess, honesty can become the noose by which you are hanged.
Most Respectfully,
• Prior to 1988, there was no such autonomous Government of Palestine. So in reality, nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians. The West Bank was sovereign Jordanian territory and the Gaza Strip was a former Egyptian Military Governorship.
• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
R
Don't treat Theliq with any validity as he insists that every Jew who ever lived in Israel converted the day before moving there.
He is a piece of lying, Islamo Nazi scum.
See Rocco,when you persist with one eyed prose.....you just encourage,the MORON ELEMENT...like this individual.steve
My Mom is neither Jewish or Synthetic......SHE IS DEADHow your Jewish mom?I have never said that or believe that at all......but I will point out that there are more Synthetic Jews CONVERTS living in Israel than Semetic Jews with lineage to Abraham....Amusing how FILTH like you call me "Islamo Nazi Scum".....(WHICH IS A CONTRADICTION IN TERMS) when it was you very Zionists that COLLABORATED WITH HITLER AND THE NAZIS<AND HELPED SEND MILLIONS OF JEWS TO THE GAS CHAMBERS,Men,Women and Children and Babies.theliq, et al,
The basic problem, especially in this question, revolves around the dilemma of determinism. We (you and me) do not know:
• If Israeli actions were controlled by a causal chain of preceding events? --- OR ---
• If Israeli actions were controlled by external influence? --- OR ---
• If the Jewish Leadership making the decisions for the people of Israel were making those decisions independent of the events (intern or external)?
(COMMENT)Rocco informative as ever,but please answer me this.....If there had Never been the Six Day War....Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67 ??????? And why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.??or is that for the future....What is Israel's true intent Rocco...steve
On the matter of: "Why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.?
Second: Your question is Biased and hypothetical from the start: Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67.
∆ The Sykes-Picot Agreement Line of May 1916 (Area "A" and Area "B") basically started with the boundary between the Sanjak Beirut and the Province of Lebanon until it intersected with the boundary between the Sanjak of Damascus and the Sanjak of Hauran; just north of the Sea of Galilee to the Jordan River. The Vilayet of Beirut consisted of three Sanjak to the north (Provence of Lebanon, and the Sanjaks of Tripoli andLatakia) and three Sanjaks to the south (Beirut, Acre, Balqa). This was the old
While other pieces of the Sykes-Picot Agreement remnants are around even today, in general, it can be said that the Middle East bears no resemblance to the present day.
"The agreement led to the division of Turkish-held Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine into various French- and British-administered areas. Negotiations were begun in November 1915, and the final agreement took its name from its negotiators, Sir Mark Sykes of Britain and François Georges-Picot of France." [The SECRET Syke-Picot Arrangement (now more than a century old) came more than a year before the Nov 1917 Balfour Agreement.]
WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopædia BritannicaLAST UPDATED: 5-31-2016 See Article History
View attachment 108900
I learned (the hard way) to avoid speculation without a clear understanding of the element to an event; and --- seldom allow hypotheticals to entrap you. It can be corrosive to one's career. Like everything else taken to excess, honesty can become the noose by which you are hanged.
Most Respectfully,
• Prior to 1988, there was no such autonomous Government of Palestine. So in reality, nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians. The West Bank was sovereign Jordanian territory and the Gaza Strip was a former Egyptian Military Governorship.
• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
R
Don't treat Theliq with any validity as he insists that every Jew who ever lived in Israel converted the day before moving there.
He is a piece of lying, Islamo Nazi scum.
See Rocco,when you persist with one eyed prose.....you just encourage,the MORON ELEMENT...like this individual.steve
Is SHE synthetic?
False question, Rocco. That is an Israeli talking point.• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
You better consult with the other people you share this account with because your mom was Jewish.My Mom is neither Jewish or Synthetic......SHE IS DEADHow your Jewish mom?I have never said that or believe that at all......but I will point out that there are more Synthetic Jews CONVERTS living in Israel than Semetic Jews with lineage to Abraham....Amusing how FILTH like you call me "Islamo Nazi Scum".....(WHICH IS A CONTRADICTION IN TERMS) when it was you very Zionists that COLLABORATED WITH HITLER AND THE NAZIS<AND HELPED SEND MILLIONS OF JEWS TO THE GAS CHAMBERS,Men,Women and Children and Babies.theliq, et al,
The basic problem, especially in this question, revolves around the dilemma of determinism. We (you and me) do not know:
• If Israeli actions were controlled by a causal chain of preceding events? --- OR ---
• If Israeli actions were controlled by external influence? --- OR ---
• If the Jewish Leadership making the decisions for the people of Israel were making those decisions independent of the events (intern or external)?
(COMMENT)Rocco informative as ever,but please answer me this.....If there had Never been the Six Day War....Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67 ??????? And why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.??or is that for the future....What is Israel's true intent Rocco...steve
On the matter of: "Why don't they extract Land from Egypt, Jordan, Syria (I know they have the Golan) and Lebonan.?
Second: Your question is Biased and hypothetical from the start: Would Israel continue to Steal Palestinian Land...seeing their Modus Operandi of continued Stealing of Palestinian Land since 67.
∆ The Sykes-Picot Agreement Line of May 1916 (Area "A" and Area "B") basically started with the boundary between the Sanjak Beirut and the Province of Lebanon until it intersected with the boundary between the Sanjak of Damascus and the Sanjak of Hauran; just north of the Sea of Galilee to the Jordan River. The Vilayet of Beirut consisted of three Sanjak to the north (Provence of Lebanon, and the Sanjaks of Tripoli andLatakia) and three Sanjaks to the south (Beirut, Acre, Balqa). This was the old
While other pieces of the Sykes-Picot Agreement remnants are around even today, in general, it can be said that the Middle East bears no resemblance to the present day.
"The agreement led to the division of Turkish-held Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine into various French- and British-administered areas. Negotiations were begun in November 1915, and the final agreement took its name from its negotiators, Sir Mark Sykes of Britain and François Georges-Picot of France." [The SECRET Syke-Picot Arrangement (now more than a century old) came more than a year before the Nov 1917 Balfour Agreement.]
WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopædia BritannicaLAST UPDATED: 5-31-2016 See Article History
View attachment 108900
I learned (the hard way) to avoid speculation without a clear understanding of the element to an event; and --- seldom allow hypotheticals to entrap you. It can be corrosive to one's career. Like everything else taken to excess, honesty can become the noose by which you are hanged.
Most Respectfully,
• Prior to 1988, there was no such autonomous Government of Palestine. So in reality, nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians. The West Bank was sovereign Jordanian territory and the Gaza Strip was a former Egyptian Military Governorship.
• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
R
Don't treat Theliq with any validity as he insists that every Jew who ever lived in Israel converted the day before moving there.
He is a piece of lying, Islamo Nazi scum.
See Rocco,when you persist with one eyed prose.....you just encourage,the MORON ELEMENT...like this individual.steve
Is SHE synthetic?
(COMMENT)See Rocco,when you persist with one eyed prose.....you just encourage,the MORON ELEMENT...like this individual.steve
(COMMENT)Palestinian Land being acquired(stolen)with No Compensation or Agreement by Israel
(COMMENT)"Islamo Nazi Scum".....(WHICH IS A CONTRADICTION IN TERMS) when it was you very Zionists that COLLABORATED WITH HITLER AND THE NAZIS<AND HELPED SEND MILLIONS OF JEWS TO THE GAS CHAMBERS,Men,Women and Children and Babies.
(QUEStION)False question, Rocco. That is an Israeli talking point.• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
Israel violates the rules of occupation up one side and down the other.I am not sure that we are talking about the same thing! There are agreements in place. In fact, the very agreement that establishes the Palestinian Authority (PA) also has established the Areas "A" - "B" - and "C;" and the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip (AKA: Oslo II)
That since the Palestinians never had a sovereign state, the Palestinians have no rights. That is just one of Israel's bullshit talking points. People have the same rights even if they are prevented from exercising their sovereignty.P F Tinmore, et al,
I always state my reasons why I might think in a given direction.
(QUEStION)False question, Rocco. That is an Israeli talking point.• The Arab Palestinians argue that they are fighting against 'occupation." If that is true, at what point were the Arab Palestinians a self-governing institution?
What is your reasoning?
BTW: You should base your objection on what is say (Content) not on who said what. Comments like: "That is an Israeli talking point." is merely just another form of ad Hominem attack.
Most Respectfully,
R
(QUESTION)Israel violates the rules of occupation up one side and down the other.I am not sure that we are talking about the same thing! There are agreements in place. In fact, the very agreement that establishes the Palestinian Authority (PA) also has established the Areas "A" - "B" - and "C;" and the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip (AKA: Oslo II)
Where is this Liaison Committee? Who is on it?1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.
The rules of occupation have a list of obligations and restrictions for the occupying power. Which ones do Israel not violate?P F Tinmore, et al,
You make these sweeping condemnations all the time.
(QUESTION)Israel violates the rules of occupation up one side and down the other.I am not sure that we are talking about the same thing! There are agreements in place. In fact, the very agreement that establishes the Palestinian Authority (PA) also has established the Areas "A" - "B" - and "C;" and the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip (AKA: Oslo II)
What particular issue do you want to discuss? The description of "up one side and down the other" is a qualifier like the concept of "infinity" is in math. No scientist likes the solution to be an "infinity." It might as well be a wrong answer. It is unuseful. So it is with your: "up one side and down the other;" unuseful.
Why is the Occupation still under containment? Or is it a matter of preconditions set by the Hostile Arab Palestinians?
Most Respectfully,
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(COMMENT)That since the Palestinians never had a sovereign state, the Palestinians have no rights. That is just one of Israel's bullshit talking points. People have the same rights even if they are prevented from exercising their sovereignty.
(COMMENT)The rules of occupation have a list of obligations and restrictions for the occupying power. Which ones do Israel not violate?
