Ethnic cleansing

[P F Tinmore]

I am starting a new thread base on one of Rocco's posts.

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There is no "ethnic Cleansing? What are you an idiot?

Although there is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing, from its widely accepted non-technical definition [23] , it is possible to deduce some common elements. Firstly, what can be considered as a subjective element of ethnic cleansing is the fact that it is systematically carried out with a clear intent to create an ethnically homogeneous area by removing another group of people from their own territory by using force or intimidation or any other method. Secondly, the objective element of ethnic cleansing is that it is perpetrated against a particular group of people, according to their racial, ethnic, national, religious or other characteristics, which involves mass deportations or forceful transfer of people, intimidations by different methods, murder, torture, arbitrary detention, etc.​

Ethnic cleansing is not about numbers. It is about location. It is about moving people out of areas where they are not wanted. Israel does commit the violations listed above.

House demolitions and forced evictions are
among Israel’s most heinous practices in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). In
2011, a record year of displacement, a total of
622 Palestinian structures were demolished by
Israeli authorities, of which 36% (or 222) were
family homes; the remainder were livelihood-
related (including water storage and agricultural
structures), resulting in 1,094 people displaced,
almost double the number for 2010.

http://icahdusa.org/multimedia/downloads/2012/04/Judaization-of-Palestine.pdf​

Of course similar practices have been carried out in "Israel proper" since 1948 and they continue to today.

 

[Kondor3]

Yes.

Ethnic cleansing has two main focii...

1. killing a population

2. relocating a population

The former is heinous and universally condemned.

The latter is tragic and often unpopular but also oftentimes necessary for long-term peace and security.

Just ask the Hindus, who were obliged to evacuate from Muslim-controlled territory in 1947, when British Imperial India fragmented.

Just ask the Muslims, who were obliged to evacuate from Hindu-controlled territory in 1947, when British Imperial India fragmented.

Just ask the ethnic Germans who were driven out of East Prussia at the end of WWII in 1945-1946.

Just ask the ethnic Germans who were driven out of the Sudetenland at the end of WWII in 1945-1946.

Just ask the Jews who were driven out of Morocco and Algeria and Libya and Tunisia and Iraq and Egypt and Lebanon and Syria and Bahrain and Iran and Pakistan et al during the period 1947-1970...

Just ask the Native Americans who were pushed further and further West and eventually herded onto reservations so that New Europe could grow...

When land changes hands, and the former population cannot be readily integrated into the new society taking possession of the land, the vanquished are either killed-off or herded into controllable zones or simply kicked out...

Of those three possibilities, kicking them out is the most 'humane', in that the victims are, at least, still alive at the end of the sequence, and able to start over, someplace else...

When other alternatives have either (1) already been tried or (2) provide no reasonably prospect for succes, then, this sort of unfortunate thing is almost certain to unfold...

As seems to be the case with the so-called Palestinians, the Losers in a long, protracted, pointless conflict that always had a known end-game and outcome...

Vae victus.

It no longer seems a question of "if", but merely a question of "when"...

The Palestinians have had their chance(s)... time and again... and muffed them all... so, Nature is in the process of de-selecting them.

That, too, is Nature's way.

The details associated with such a gradual Expulsion effort are minutiae in the grander scheme of things, and in the broader context here.

Nobody likes to think about it, and nobody likes to do it, but, sometimes, it becomes necessary, and then the shit hits the fan.

 

[westwall]

I am starting a new thread base on one of Rocco's posts.

UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine | Page 3 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is no "ethnic Cleansing? What are you an idiot?

Although there is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing, from its widely accepted non-technical definition [23] , it is possible to deduce some common elements. Firstly, what can be considered as a subjective element of ethnic cleansing is the fact that it is systematically carried out with a clear intent to create an ethnically homogeneous area by removing another group of people from their own territory by using force or intimidation or any other method. Secondly, the objective element of ethnic cleansing is that it is perpetrated against a particular group of people, according to their racial, ethnic, national, religious or other characteristics, which involves mass deportations or forceful transfer of people, intimidations by different methods, murder, torture, arbitrary detention, etc.​

Ethnic cleansing is not about numbers. It is about location. It is about moving people out of areas where they are not wanted. Israel does commit the violations listed above.

House demolitions and forced evictions are
among Israel’s most heinous practices in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). In
2011, a record year of displacement, a total of
622 Palestinian structures were demolished by
Israeli authorities, of which 36% (or 222) were
family homes; the remainder were livelihood-
related (including water storage and agricultural
structures), resulting in 1,094 people displaced,
almost double the number for 2010.

http://icahdusa.org/multimedia/downloads/2012/04/Judaization-of-Palestine.pdf​

Of course similar practices have been carried out in "Israel proper" since 1948 and they continue to today.

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

 

[pbel]

I am starting a new thread base on one of Rocco's posts.

UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine | Page 3 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is no "ethnic Cleansing? What are you an idiot?

Although there is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing, from its widely accepted non-technical definition [23] , it is possible to deduce some common elements. Firstly, what can be considered as a subjective element of ethnic cleansing is the fact that it is systematically carried out with a clear intent to create an ethnically homogeneous area by removing another group of people from their own territory by using force or intimidation or any other method. Secondly, the objective element of ethnic cleansing is that it is perpetrated against a particular group of people, according to their racial, ethnic, national, religious or other characteristics, which involves mass deportations or forceful transfer of people, intimidations by different methods, murder, torture, arbitrary detention, etc.​

Ethnic cleansing is not about numbers. It is about location. It is about moving people out of areas where they are not wanted. Israel does commit the violations listed above.

House demolitions and forced evictions are
among Israel’s most heinous practices in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). In
2011, a record year of displacement, a total of
622 Palestinian structures were demolished by
Israeli authorities, of which 36% (or 222) were
family homes; the remainder were livelihood-
related (including water storage and agricultural
structures), resulting in 1,094 people displaced,
almost double the number for 2010.

http://icahdusa.org/multimedia/downloads/2012/04/Judaization-of-Palestine.pdf​

Of course similar practices have been carried out in "Israel proper" since 1948 and they continue to today.

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

 

[Hollie]

I am starting a new thread base on one of Rocco's posts.

UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine | Page 3 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is no "ethnic Cleansing? What are you an idiot?

Although there is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing, from its widely accepted non-technical definition [23] , it is possible to deduce some common elements. Firstly, what can be considered as a subjective element of ethnic cleansing is the fact that it is systematically carried out with a clear intent to create an ethnically homogeneous area by removing another group of people from their own territory by using force or intimidation or any other method. Secondly, the objective element of ethnic cleansing is that it is perpetrated against a particular group of people, according to their racial, ethnic, national, religious or other characteristics, which involves mass deportations or forceful transfer of people, intimidations by different methods, murder, torture, arbitrary detention, etc.​

Ethnic cleansing is not about numbers. It is about location. It is about moving people out of areas where they are not wanted. Israel does commit the violations listed above.

House demolitions and forced evictions are
among Israel’s most heinous practices in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). In
2011, a record year of displacement, a total of
622 Palestinian structures were demolished by
Israeli authorities, of which 36% (or 222) were
family homes; the remainder were livelihood-
related (including water storage and agricultural
structures), resulting in 1,094 people displaced,
almost double the number for 2010.

http://icahdusa.org/multimedia/downloads/2012/04/Judaization-of-Palestine.pdf​

Of course similar practices have been carried out in "Israel proper" since 1948 and they continue to today.

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

 

[pbel]

I am starting a new thread base on one of Rocco's posts.

UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine | Page 3 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is no "ethnic Cleansing? What are you an idiot?

Although there is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing, from its widely accepted non-technical definition [23] , it is possible to deduce some common elements. Firstly, what can be considered as a subjective element of ethnic cleansing is the fact that it is systematically carried out with a clear intent to create an ethnically homogeneous area by removing another group of people from their own territory by using force or intimidation or any other method. Secondly, the objective element of ethnic cleansing is that it is perpetrated against a particular group of people, according to their racial, ethnic, national, religious or other characteristics, which involves mass deportations or forceful transfer of people, intimidations by different methods, murder, torture, arbitrary detention, etc.​

Ethnic cleansing is not about numbers. It is about location. It is about moving people out of areas where they are not wanted. Israel does commit the violations listed above.

House demolitions and forced evictions are
among Israel’s most heinous practices in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). In
2011, a record year of displacement, a total of
622 Palestinian structures were demolished by
Israeli authorities, of which 36% (or 222) were
family homes; the remainder were livelihood-
related (including water storage and agricultural
structures), resulting in 1,094 people displaced,
almost double the number for 2010.

http://icahdusa.org/multimedia/downloads/2012/04/Judaization-of-Palestine.pdf​

Of course similar practices have been carried out in "Israel proper" since 1948 and they continue to today.

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
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   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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[DGS49]

I hate to use "The Internet" as a source of information, but the mountain of historical and continuing outrages committed by Zionists on the indigenous Arab population is manifestly documented on sites and in videos, many of which are authored by conscientious Jews.

When viewed in total, it is a textbook example of "ethnic cleansing," using tactics ranging from petty indignities to outrageous impositions, to terrorism and murder...all intended to suppress or drive out the Arab population, and all copiously documented from hundreds of sources.

Consider one "minor" example that is virtually unknown to most Americans. The Israeli's maintain hundreds of "checkpoints" on roads and bridges throughout the Palestinian (or "Occupied") territories. Note that they are NOT ONLY between Palestinian and Israeli areas, but most are entirely in the Palestinian areas. At these checkpoints, the indigenous people are stopped, searched, and questioned by armed military personnel, for no reason other than that they are not Jews. These stops and delays can be a severe hardship on people simply going about their daily affairs. Going to, or coming home from, work can take hours because of delays at these checkpoints. Sometimes passage is arbitrarily denied for many hours at a time without explanation or apparent cause. Ambulances have been known to be turned away, as they try to take sick or injured people to hospitals for emergency treatment.

Ever heard of this? You are not alone. It goes on perpetually in the "Occupied Territories." But Americans don't hear about it. Just one example among many.

 

[westwall]

I am starting a new thread base on one of Rocco's posts.

UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine | Page 3 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is no "ethnic Cleansing? What are you an idiot?

Although there is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing, from its widely accepted non-technical definition [23] , it is possible to deduce some common elements. Firstly, what can be considered as a subjective element of ethnic cleansing is the fact that it is systematically carried out with a clear intent to create an ethnically homogeneous area by removing another group of people from their own territory by using force or intimidation or any other method. Secondly, the objective element of ethnic cleansing is that it is perpetrated against a particular group of people, according to their racial, ethnic, national, religious or other characteristics, which involves mass deportations or forceful transfer of people, intimidations by different methods, murder, torture, arbitrary detention, etc.​

Ethnic cleansing is not about numbers. It is about location. It is about moving people out of areas where they are not wanted. Israel does commit the violations listed above.

House demolitions and forced evictions are
among Israel’s most heinous practices in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). In
2011, a record year of displacement, a total of
622 Palestinian structures were demolished by
Israeli authorities, of which 36% (or 222) were
family homes; the remainder were livelihood-
related (including water storage and agricultural
structures), resulting in 1,094 people displaced,
almost double the number for 2010.

http://icahdusa.org/multimedia/downloads/2012/04/Judaization-of-Palestine.pdf​

Of course similar practices have been carried out in "Israel proper" since 1948 and they continue to today.

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
   • 11 POSTS
   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

 

[Phoenall]

I am starting a new thread base on one of Rocco's posts.

UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine | Page 3 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is no "ethnic Cleansing? What are you an idiot?

Although there is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing, from its widely accepted non-technical definition [23] , it is possible to deduce some common elements. Firstly, what can be considered as a subjective element of ethnic cleansing is the fact that it is systematically carried out with a clear intent to create an ethnically homogeneous area by removing another group of people from their own territory by using force or intimidation or any other method. Secondly, the objective element of ethnic cleansing is that it is perpetrated against a particular group of people, according to their racial, ethnic, national, religious or other characteristics, which involves mass deportations or forceful transfer of people, intimidations by different methods, murder, torture, arbitrary detention, etc.​

Ethnic cleansing is not about numbers. It is about location. It is about moving people out of areas where they are not wanted. Israel does commit the violations listed above.

House demolitions and forced evictions are
among Israel’s most heinous practices in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). In
2011, a record year of displacement, a total of
622 Palestinian structures were demolished by
Israeli authorities, of which 36% (or 222) were
family homes; the remainder were livelihood-
related (including water storage and agricultural
structures), resulting in 1,094 people displaced,
almost double the number for 2010.

http://icahdusa.org/multimedia/downloads/2012/04/Judaization-of-Palestine.pdf​

Of course similar practices have been carried out in "Israel proper" since 1948 and they continue to today.

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

They decided to take up arms and fight against Israel so lost the right to be seen as an Israeli citizen. The ones that did not take up arms are now full citizens of Israel, so no ethnic cleansing took place. But cleansing of terrorists, foreign illegals and terrorists did take place.

 

[MJB12741]

In 1948 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. And now there are only just over 6 million of them left. It's a genocide of ethnic cleansing I tell ya, a GENOCIDE. And if you don't believe me, just ask any of the Palestinian supporters.

Population Statistics - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

 

[pbel]

I am starting a new thread base on one of Rocco's posts.

UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine | Page 3 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is no "ethnic Cleansing? What are you an idiot?

Although there is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing, from its widely accepted non-technical definition [23] , it is possible to deduce some common elements. Firstly, what can be considered as a subjective element of ethnic cleansing is the fact that it is systematically carried out with a clear intent to create an ethnically homogeneous area by removing another group of people from their own territory by using force or intimidation or any other method. Secondly, the objective element of ethnic cleansing is that it is perpetrated against a particular group of people, according to their racial, ethnic, national, religious or other characteristics, which involves mass deportations or forceful transfer of people, intimidations by different methods, murder, torture, arbitrary detention, etc.​

Ethnic cleansing is not about numbers. It is about location. It is about moving people out of areas where they are not wanted. Israel does commit the violations listed above.

House demolitions and forced evictions are
among Israel’s most heinous practices in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). In
2011, a record year of displacement, a total of
622 Palestinian structures were demolished by
Israeli authorities, of which 36% (or 222) were
family homes; the remainder were livelihood-
related (including water storage and agricultural
structures), resulting in 1,094 people displaced,
almost double the number for 2010.

http://icahdusa.org/multimedia/downloads/2012/04/Judaization-of-Palestine.pdf​

Of course similar practices have been carried out in "Israel proper" since 1948 and they continue to today.

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
   • 11 POSTS
   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

No I don't think you're remotely correct...Moving them Geographically constitutes Ethnic Cleansing according to all definition, don't you think?

 

[westwall]

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
   • 11 POSTS
   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

No I don't think you're remotely correct...Moving them Geographically constitutes Ethnic Cleansing according to all definition, don't you think?

That is certainly not the recognized definition.

 

[pbel]

In 1948 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. And now there are only just over 6 million of them left. It's a genocide of ethnic cleansing I tell ya, a GENOCIDE. And if you don't believe me, just ask any of the Palestinian supporters.

Population Statistics - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

MJ No one has broached genocide. Ethnic Cleansing is not necessarily followed by genocide although a lot of killings of innocent Palestinians have been committed by Genocidal Israelis and Stooges like you in fact and in your case, fantasy.

 

[pbel]

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
   • 11 POSTS
   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

No I don't think you're remotely correct...Moving them Geographically constitutes Ethnic Cleansing according to all definition, don't you think?

That is certainly not the recognized definition.

I beg to differ along with Wikipedia:

Ethnic cleansing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ethnic cleansing
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as mass murder.

Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with the efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.

 

[MJB12741]

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
   • 11 POSTS
   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

No I don't think you're remotely correct...Moving them Geographically constitutes Ethnic Cleansing according to all definition, don't you think?

That is certainly not the recognized definition.

I beg to differ along with Wikipedia:

Ethnic cleansing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ethnic cleansing
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as mass murder.

Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with the efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.

Oh boy! Talk about a Palestinian mentality. Yes, let us consider all the desecrated Palestinian monuments, social centers, cemetaries & places of worship destroyed by Israel. And as to infastructure, what infastructure?

 

[Phoenall]

Hmmmm, I see you are still using highly biased groups for your information. NGO Monitor lists them as a "fringe political NGO" and notes that their methodology fuels the conflict.

If you wish to be taken seriously you need to present both sides. It's pretty hard to believe the Israelis are practicing "ethnic cleansing" when there are more Palestinians now, than there have ever been in their whole history.

Really shoots that whole meme all to hell....

I don't see why a growth in Population has anything to do with it. We all know that Demographics will in time doom Israeli majority rule.

Gaza is filled with ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Israel Proper in 1948...Today we see it in E.Jerusalem slowly eating up Palestinian homes.

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
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   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

No I don't think you're remotely correct...Moving them Geographically constitutes Ethnic Cleansing according to all definition, don't you think?

Do you mean like the Palestinians and their allies did to the Jews in 1949, when they were ethnically cleansed from their homes in Jerusalem, Hebron and other parts of the west bank ?
How many of the 1 million Jewish refugees were mass murdered on their way to Israel ?

 

[Phoenall]

In 1948 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. And now there are only just over 6 million of them left. It's a genocide of ethnic cleansing I tell ya, a GENOCIDE. And if you don't believe me, just ask any of the Palestinian supporters.

Population Statistics - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

MJ No one has broached genocide. Ethnic Cleansing is not necessarily followed by genocide although a lot of killings of innocent Palestinians have been committed by Genocidal Israelis and Stooges like you in fact and in your case, fantasy.

Then you will have no problems in producing valid links to your claims from non partisan and unbiased sources. They must state that the Israeli's are committing genocide on the Palestinians and give verifiable figures

 

[westwall]

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
   • 11 POSTS
   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

No I don't think you're remotely correct...Moving them Geographically constitutes Ethnic Cleansing according to all definition, don't you think?

That is certainly not the recognized definition.

I beg to differ along with Wikipedia:

Ethnic cleansing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ethnic cleansing
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as mass murder.

Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with the efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.

Are there no Palestinians in Israel? Show me an area that has none.

 

[Phoenall]

Actually, you don't know what you're babbling about. As noted by the attached link, Pal'istanians breed like rabbits. Gaza'istan is filled with a young population.

Lots of candidates for the Pal'istanian martyrdom death cult.

The reasons why Gaza’s population is so young

First, the Gaza Strip’s population of roughly 1.8 million has an unusually large proportion of children. Figures for 2013 from Index Mundi, the internet source of country data, show that that 43.5 per cent of the population is aged 14 or under, compared with 32 per cent in Egypt and 27 per cent in Israel.

The median age in Gaza is 18, compared with a world average of 28. In most European countries it’s about 40, and it is 30 in Israel. Only in a dozen or so African countries is the median age lower, reaching 15 in Uganda.

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
   • 11 POSTS
   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

No I don't think you're remotely correct...Moving them Geographically constitutes Ethnic Cleansing according to all definition, don't you think?

That is certainly not the recognized definition.

I beg to differ along with Wikipedia:

Ethnic cleansing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ethnic cleansing
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as mass murder.

Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with the efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.

ust what the Palestinians and their allies did in 1949 to the Jews in the M.E. stealing their land raping their sisters, wives, mothers and daughters and massacring the men. So if you want to talk about ethnic cleansing don't forget that the Palestinians are the ones most commonly seen to be doing the ethnic cleansing. Borne out by the ethnic cleansing of Christians in Palestine down by 90% of their figures in just 7 years.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You might want to research these links. Especially Ben-Gurion's...

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

1. 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
   The 1948 Palestinian ... Arabs had fled to Arab parts of Palestine, such as Gaza, Beersheba ... Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 ...
   
   
2. For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not End in 1948 ...
   www.palestinechronicle.com › Articles › Commentary
   For the Palestinians, al-Nakba Did not ... For the Palestinians, the 1948 al ... These are few examples of the Arab Israelis hardship inside Israel proper as ...
   
   
3. Primer on Palestine, Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict ...
   www.merip.org/primer-palestine-israel-arab-israeli-conflict-new
   ... population of Arab Palestine in 1948. Israel’s Central ... to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. ... of the Gaza Strip. Israel ...
   
   
4. Summil - صميل -Gaza - Palestine Remembered
   ns1.palestineremembered.com/Gaza/Summil/index.html
   The Home of Ethnically Cleansed & Occupied Palestinians: Satellite View: ... 1948: Distance from ... Summil inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.
   
   
5. [PDF]
   Uncontroversial yet Taboo: Gaza in Context
   www.palestinechronicle.com/uncontroversial-yet-taboo-gaza-in...
   The recent killing of 25 Palestinians in Gaza ... before 1948, was also ethnically cleansed of ... Gurion would withdraw his army from the Sinai and Gaza but Israel ...
   
   
6. Gaza - Israel's Inhuman Crime Against The World
   rense.com/general80/crimeaf.htm
   ... and on the east it is bordered by what used to be Palestine. In 1948, Israel ... Palestinians are trapped in Gaza ... ethnically cleansed by ...
   
   
7. Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza ...
   https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115112003AAalxdJ
   • RESOLVED
   • 11 POSTS
   • 10 TOTAL ANSWERS
   • PUBLISHED JAN 15, 2009
   Did you know that more than half the Palestinians in Gaza come from villages ethnically cleansed by Israel? ... Why was Israel attacked in 1948 and ...
   
   After the Palestinian's were forced to move out in 1948 ... Resolved
   Question about the 'Palestinian' right of return ? | Yahoo ... Resolved
8. Hold Israel Accountable - US Campaign to End the Israeli ...
   www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=4152
   It is time to hold Israel ... day of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip and it appears ... ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel in 1948, ...
   
   
9. The Nakba, 65 Years of Dispossession and Apartheid | IMEU
   imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid
   g. 65 Years of Apartheid in ... Palestinians were ethnically cleansed during ... in areas that became Israel in 1948; Palestinians who were ...
   
   
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Yes, I see references to moving them. Not killing them. HUUUUUUGE difference...don't you think?

No I don't think you're remotely correct...Moving them Geographically constitutes Ethnic Cleansing according to all definition, don't you think?

That is certainly not the recognized definition.

I beg to differ along with Wikipedia:

Ethnic cleansing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ethnic cleansing
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as mass murder.

Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with the efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.

Are there no Palestinians in Israel? Show me an area that has none.

Soon to be the desert.