UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine

[Phoenall]

Well Israel is above the law of the land, nothing will change. Just makes the UN look good.

It is not Israel that is firing illegal weapons, nor is it Israel refusing to negotiate peace and borders.

Yes I realize Israel can have weapons but no one else can.

NO I DONT as most nations have weapons to defend themselves with. Which is what Israel has had to do constantly since may 15 1948

 

[Phoenall]

Clearly people around the World see Israel's 67 Pre-Emptive Land Grab as nothing less than Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians from their homes...


UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine
New York, New York (IMEMC) – The overwhelming majority of General Assembly of the United Nations, Wednesday, voted on five draft resolutions in favor of Palestine. The decision comes after the Assembly discussed the two articles, “the Palestinian Cause” and “the Conditions in the Middle East.”

According to Al Ray, the first resolution was entitled, “Using Amicable Methods to Resolve the Palestinian Cause”. The voting results were 148 in favor to 6 against, with 8 abstentions.

The second resolution regarding “Jerusalem” passed with 144 votes in favor to 6 against, and 10 abstentions. The third resolution was entitled, “The Informational Program about the Palestinian Cause”, which is being handled by the administration of media affairs in the Secretary-General of the United Nations, and passed with 147 votes in favor to 7 against, and 9 abstentions.

The fourth resolution was entitled “Committee for Palestinians Right to Exercise Ownership of Their Inalienable Rights.” The voting results were 94 in favor to 7 against, with 56 abstentions. The last resolution, entitled, “The Section of Palestinians Rights in the Secretary-General of UN”, passed with 91 votes in favor to 7 against, with 59 abstentions.


After the voting process, Permanent Observer of Palestine to the United Nations, Riyad Mansour, gave a speech to show his gratitude and thanks to the member countries of the UN for their initial stand, and their votes in favor of the resolutions that show their support to the Palestinian cause.

Mansour added that the international community represented by the United Nations’ protection of international law is a source of comfort and support to the Palestinian people. It will help them in their continuing journey of resisting and striving to maintain their inalienable rights, and bringing an end to the Israeli occupation, which will liberate the state of Palestine and its capitol of East Jerusalem

Help me out here. Don't you think we ought to know what was IN these "resolutions" before getting all worked up over them? Or making claims of victory or defeat?

I searched the Press Releases of the UN, the Voting Records archive, and several parts of the UN site with the term "Using Amicable Methods" and the date 26 November 2015 --- and got NOTHING.

No other coverage -- all 3rd party interpretation if you can find any at all.
Can't get excited AT ALL about something like this --- if the UN doesn't deem it important enough to even issue a press release.

ANYONE???

I can't get excited about UN resolutions. There are already piles of UN resolutions sitting around collecting dust with no action.

The UN will pass resolutions, stick it thumb back up its ass and wait for the next inevitable flareup...rinse, repeat.

Because the UN has no authority, and it was made that way from the start.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Clearly people around the World see Israel's 67 Pre-Emptive Land Grab as nothing less than Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians from their homes...


UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine
New York, New York (IMEMC) – The overwhelming majority of General Assembly of the United Nations, Wednesday, voted on five draft resolutions in favor of Palestine. The decision comes after the Assembly discussed the two articles, “the Palestinian Cause” and “the Conditions in the Middle East.”

According to Al Ray, the first resolution was entitled, “Using Amicable Methods to Resolve the Palestinian Cause”. The voting results were 148 in favor to 6 against, with 8 abstentions.

The second resolution regarding “Jerusalem” passed with 144 votes in favor to 6 against, and 10 abstentions. The third resolution was entitled, “The Informational Program about the Palestinian Cause”, which is being handled by the administration of media affairs in the Secretary-General of the United Nations, and passed with 147 votes in favor to 7 against, and 9 abstentions.

The fourth resolution was entitled “Committee for Palestinians Right to Exercise Ownership of Their Inalienable Rights.” The voting results were 94 in favor to 7 against, with 56 abstentions. The last resolution, entitled, “The Section of Palestinians Rights in the Secretary-General of UN”, passed with 91 votes in favor to 7 against, with 59 abstentions.


After the voting process, Permanent Observer of Palestine to the United Nations, Riyad Mansour, gave a speech to show his gratitude and thanks to the member countries of the UN for their initial stand, and their votes in favor of the resolutions that show their support to the Palestinian cause.

Mansour added that the international community represented by the United Nations’ protection of international law is a source of comfort and support to the Palestinian people. It will help them in their continuing journey of resisting and striving to maintain their inalienable rights, and bringing an end to the Israeli occupation, which will liberate the state of Palestine and its capitol of East Jerusalem

Help me out here. Don't you think we ought to know what was IN these "resolutions" before getting all worked up over them? Or making claims of victory or defeat?

I searched the Press Releases of the UN, the Voting Records archive, and several parts of the UN site with the term "Using Amicable Methods" and the date 26 November 2015 --- and got NOTHING.

No other coverage -- all 3rd party interpretation if you can find any at all.
Can't get excited AT ALL about something like this --- if the UN doesn't deem it important enough to even issue a press release.

ANYONE???

I can't get excited about UN resolutions. There are already piles of UN resolutions sitting around collecting dust with no action.

The UN will pass resolutions, stick it thumb back up its ass and wait for the next inevitable flareup...rinse, repeat.

Because the UN has no authority, and it was made that way from the start.

Indeed, it had no authority to pass resolution 181.

 

[Phoenall]

terrorism of Israel, not by Israel. Israeli response to attacks is legal.

How many times does this have to be explained to you, an occupational force cannot claim self defense.

The bottom line is, what Israel is doing is wrong. An overwhelming majority of country's have said so in these 5 resolutions and there are more on the way.

You Israeli kiss-asses are ridiculous. You want us to believe you're right and the rest of the damn world is wrong? Catch the clue, the rest of the world is right and you're fucked!

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied. Add to this the attacks on Israel civilians and you have the legal right to bomb the crap out of gaza until the terrorism, violence and illegal weapons cease.
No they haven't if you read the resolutions again as the world knows they have no force of law behind them and so are paying lip service to the Nazi's in the UN.
When you can find a breach of International law by Israel then you might have a point, but while the Palestinians are committing war crimes and breaching International law you are just promoting your usual Jew hatred .

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied.​

Yes it is. Why do you lie?

Did this become international law, or is it just one persons take on the situation. Under international law Israel does not fulfil the criteria for occupation of gaza, so international law trumps the UN press release and the anti Jewish words of the Secretary General.

 

[Hollie]

Clearly people around the World see Israel's 67 Pre-Emptive Land Grab as nothing less than Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians from their homes...


UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine
New York, New York (IMEMC) – The overwhelming majority of General Assembly of the United Nations, Wednesday, voted on five draft resolutions in favor of Palestine. The decision comes after the Assembly discussed the two articles, “the Palestinian Cause” and “the Conditions in the Middle East.”

According to Al Ray, the first resolution was entitled, “Using Amicable Methods to Resolve the Palestinian Cause”. The voting results were 148 in favor to 6 against, with 8 abstentions.

The second resolution regarding “Jerusalem” passed with 144 votes in favor to 6 against, and 10 abstentions. The third resolution was entitled, “The Informational Program about the Palestinian Cause”, which is being handled by the administration of media affairs in the Secretary-General of the United Nations, and passed with 147 votes in favor to 7 against, and 9 abstentions.

The fourth resolution was entitled “Committee for Palestinians Right to Exercise Ownership of Their Inalienable Rights.” The voting results were 94 in favor to 7 against, with 56 abstentions. The last resolution, entitled, “The Section of Palestinians Rights in the Secretary-General of UN”, passed with 91 votes in favor to 7 against, with 59 abstentions.


After the voting process, Permanent Observer of Palestine to the United Nations, Riyad Mansour, gave a speech to show his gratitude and thanks to the member countries of the UN for their initial stand, and their votes in favor of the resolutions that show their support to the Palestinian cause.

Mansour added that the international community represented by the United Nations’ protection of international law is a source of comfort and support to the Palestinian people. It will help them in their continuing journey of resisting and striving to maintain their inalienable rights, and bringing an end to the Israeli occupation, which will liberate the state of Palestine and its capitol of East Jerusalem

Help me out here. Don't you think we ought to know what was IN these "resolutions" before getting all worked up over them? Or making claims of victory or defeat?

I searched the Press Releases of the UN, the Voting Records archive, and several parts of the UN site with the term "Using Amicable Methods" and the date 26 November 2015 --- and got NOTHING.

No other coverage -- all 3rd party interpretation if you can find any at all.
Can't get excited AT ALL about something like this --- if the UN doesn't deem it important enough to even issue a press release.

ANYONE???

I can't get excited about UN resolutions. There are already piles of UN resolutions sitting around collecting dust with no action.

The UN will pass resolutions, stick it thumb back up its ass and wait for the next inevitable flareup...rinse, repeat.

That's true. Silly opinions emanating from the UN are not going to blunt Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism. The UN refuses to even address it. That leaves Israel and the rest of the relevant first world to force of arms as a remedy to the disease of Islamism.

 

[Phoenall]

Clearly people around the World see Israel's 67 Pre-Emptive Land Grab as nothing less than Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians from their homes...


UN Passes Five Resolutions In Favor Of Palestine
New York, New York (IMEMC) – The overwhelming majority of General Assembly of the United Nations, Wednesday, voted on five draft resolutions in favor of Palestine. The decision comes after the Assembly discussed the two articles, “the Palestinian Cause” and “the Conditions in the Middle East.”

According to Al Ray, the first resolution was entitled, “Using Amicable Methods to Resolve the Palestinian Cause”. The voting results were 148 in favor to 6 against, with 8 abstentions.

The second resolution regarding “Jerusalem” passed with 144 votes in favor to 6 against, and 10 abstentions. The third resolution was entitled, “The Informational Program about the Palestinian Cause”, which is being handled by the administration of media affairs in the Secretary-General of the United Nations, and passed with 147 votes in favor to 7 against, and 9 abstentions.

The fourth resolution was entitled “Committee for Palestinians Right to Exercise Ownership of Their Inalienable Rights.” The voting results were 94 in favor to 7 against, with 56 abstentions. The last resolution, entitled, “The Section of Palestinians Rights in the Secretary-General of UN”, passed with 91 votes in favor to 7 against, with 59 abstentions.


After the voting process, Permanent Observer of Palestine to the United Nations, Riyad Mansour, gave a speech to show his gratitude and thanks to the member countries of the UN for their initial stand, and their votes in favor of the resolutions that show their support to the Palestinian cause.

Mansour added that the international community represented by the United Nations’ protection of international law is a source of comfort and support to the Palestinian people. It will help them in their continuing journey of resisting and striving to maintain their inalienable rights, and bringing an end to the Israeli occupation, which will liberate the state of Palestine and its capitol of East Jerusalem

Help me out here. Don't you think we ought to know what was IN these "resolutions" before getting all worked up over them? Or making claims of victory or defeat?

I searched the Press Releases of the UN, the Voting Records archive, and several parts of the UN site with the term "Using Amicable Methods" and the date 26 November 2015 --- and got NOTHING.

No other coverage -- all 3rd party interpretation if you can find any at all.
Can't get excited AT ALL about something like this --- if the UN doesn't deem it important enough to even issue a press release.

ANYONE???

I can't get excited about UN resolutions. There are already piles of UN resolutions sitting around collecting dust with no action.

The UN will pass resolutions, stick it thumb back up its ass and wait for the next inevitable flareup...rinse, repeat.

Because the UN has no authority, and it was made that way from the start.

Indeed, it had no authority to pass resolution 181.

No it had no authority to impose 181, which it didn't as the proposals were acted on by Israel alone as shown. This was then sent to the UNSC for ratification when it became binding. It is always the same when UN resolutions support Israel team Palestine oppose them and claim they have no force in law

 

[Phoenall]

Maybe a resolution with teeth to remove weapons from gaza and end the terrorism of Israel would be more helpful.

Maybe a resolution to arm the non-Jews to the teeth would end Israel's terrorization of the Palestinians.

NOPE just lead to the Palestinians being bombed until they stopped attacking Israel, and it would be the same people bombing IS that would be bombing the palestinians

 

[Hollie]

terrorism of Israel, not by Israel. Israeli response to attacks is legal.

How many times does this have to be explained to you, an occupational force cannot claim self defense.

The bottom line is, what Israel is doing is wrong. An overwhelming majority of country's have said so in these 5 resolutions and there are more on the way.

You Israeli kiss-asses are ridiculous. You want us to believe you're right and the rest of the damn world is wrong? Catch the clue, the rest of the world is right and you're fucked!

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied. Add to this the attacks on Israel civilians and you have the legal right to bomb the crap out of gaza until the terrorism, violence and illegal weapons cease.
No they haven't if you read the resolutions again as the world knows they have no force of law behind them and so are paying lip service to the Nazi's in the UN.
When you can find a breach of International law by Israel then you might have a point, but while the Palestinians are committing war crimes and breaching International law you are just promoting your usual Jew hatred .

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied.​

Yes it is. Why do you lie?

Indeed. Yet you babbled:

"I can't get excited about UN resolutions. There are already piles of UN resolutions sitting around collecting dust with no action.

The UN will pass resolutions, stick it thumb back up its ass and wait for the next inevitable flareup...rinse, repeat."

Indeed, another silly UN opinion that's not worth paying attention to.

 

[Phoenall]

the UN has become a sick joke. if they weren't so dangerous to all of us we could laugh at them. we need to kick them out of our country and stop funding them. let them go set up camp In the Muslim countries.

Funny though, the General Assembly which represents most of the known world's inhabitants voted somewhere around 126 Nations to six against Israel.

Are you laughing at yourself?

So did they kick Israel out of the UN then, as that is what you have just implied in your post. I wonder what the UN would do if Israel walked and was no longer a party . No more resolutions as they cant defame non UN members, no more UN brokered ceasefires and no more green line. Then the Palestinians would no longer have UN support and defence and Isreal would no longer have to stop defending itself

 

[Phoenall]

the UN has become a sick joke. if they weren't so dangerous to all of us we could laugh at them. we need to kick them out of our country and stop funding them. let them go set up camp In the Muslim countries.

Funny though, the General Assembly which represents most of the known world's inhabitants voted somewhere around 126 Nations to six against Israel.

Are you laughing at yourself?

No, laughing at those 126 Jew-hating nations who are defying and mocking God. They'll get theirs, make no mistake.

Hoss, nobody except a nut would actualy hate Jews in this day and age, certainly not 126 Nation States...They just see what any human being sees: Israeli Ethnic Cleansing is proceeding in a nice steady pace.

Israel fools no one but you.

It seems that you are easily fooled as for there to be any ethnic cleansing the numbers have to reduce, and not increase as they are in Palestine. The only ethnic cleansing taking place is that of the Christians in Palestine that have been reduced by 90% in the last 7 years. And even with this the population of the Palestinians has increased .

 

[Phoenall]

There will never be peace in the Middle East until the terrorist state of Israel is dismantled and the jewish people incorporated into the New Palestine. .....

And still there would not be peace as the arab muslims would fight for supremacy along cult lines, shown by the ongoing war between suuni and shia.

 

[Phoenall]

pbel, et al,

If you don't see that a majority of the nations in the world are voting against the two territories that have the most Jewish Population, and the implications of that, then there is nothing I can say. You simply don't understand.

What the hell does Jewish population got to do with the UN vote? Tyranny of the Majority, did you take Jacques Rousseau 101?
Honestly your bombast is hilarious.

(COMMENT)

At the end of the day, it is not what you can digest and absorb. It is reality.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't understand? You mean the world is anti-Semitic? If you are correct then Israel should change its image or be doomed.

Maybe you think too much of yourself and don't understand cause and effect.

Would not alter the anti Semitism one iota, unless the Jews all knelt down and allowed the world to wipe them out. Then the world would have to find a new scapegoat, and it would all start over again. How would you feel if it was you that was the new JEW ?

 

[Phoenall]

pbel, et al,

If you don't see that a majority of the nations in the world are voting against the two territories that have the most Jewish Population, and the implications of that, then there is nothing I can say. You simply don't understand.

What the hell does Jewish population got to do with the UN vote? Tyranny of the Majority, did you take Jacques Rousseau 101?
Honestly your bombast is hilarious.

(COMMENT)

At the end of the day, it is not what you can digest and absorb. It is reality.

Most Respectfully,
R

Since you're absorbed can you Link us to an unbiased site that gives evidence that anti-Semitism is rooted at the UN and the world? Please don't bore us with your et al bullshit.

Like these perhaps



Is the United Nations anti-Semitic? - Opinion - Jerusalem Post



To accurately judge the United Nations, we need a definition. If Israel is treated and judged completely differently than other nations and held to a standard not applied to any other member nation, then that should be considered anti-Semitism.



Anti-Semitism in the United Nations | Jewish Virtual Library

Though Israel has been the subject of aggressive wars in 1948, 1967 and 1973 and the victim of countless terrorist attacks, the Security Council and the General Assembly have never once censured its assailants. As Thomas M. Franck, Professor of International Law at New York University, has written, "...the UN is a place of convoluted realities. The Assembly's majority has also done its best to achieve an anti-Israeli politicization of the Secretariat."



Former UN official charged with anti-Semitism, now California academic, takes on Israel in Gaza

Richard Falk has a well-deserved reputation for anti-Semitism and bias against Israel that he advanced through his six years at the human rights council and it is no surprise that he would again be attacking Israel in the current circumstances” of Israel’s Gaza offensive


Sen. Lindsey Graham Accuses United Nations of Anti-Semitism

The United Nations is becoming more "anti-Israel, anti-Semitic," insists Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who Sunday condemned the U.N. Human Rights Council for its decision to investigate allegations of abuses in Gaza.

 

[Phoenall]

Sunni Man, et al,

I don't think you will ever see that.

There will never be peace in the Middle East until the terrorist state of Israel is dismantled and the jewish people incorporated into the New Palestine. .....

(COMMENT)

The Radicalized Islamic Nations have seen to it that no one is ever going to trust their fate to anything they are associated with; let alone merge with a self-destructive and immoral culture.

Most Respectfully,
R

It's going to happen whether the Israeli's like it or not. ......

Not while the muslims are fighting against decency and humanity we wont. The world is combined against Islamic violence and will not stop until it is all eradicated

 

[flacaltenn]

terrorism of Israel, not by Israel. Israeli response to attacks is legal.

How many times does this have to be explained to you, an occupational force cannot claim self defense.

The bottom line is, what Israel is doing is wrong. An overwhelming majority of country's have said so in these 5 resolutions and there are more on the way.

You Israeli kiss-asses are ridiculous. You want us to believe you're right and the rest of the damn world is wrong? Catch the clue, the rest of the world is right and you're fucked!

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied. Add to this the attacks on Israel civilians and you have the legal right to bomb the crap out of gaza until the terrorism, violence and illegal weapons cease.
No they haven't if you read the resolutions again as the world knows they have no force of law behind them and so are paying lip service to the Nazi's in the UN.
When you can find a breach of International law by Israel then you might have a point, but while the Palestinians are committing war crimes and breaching International law you are just promoting your usual Jew hatred .

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied.​

Yes it is. Why do you lie?

Because it's the truth.. Doesn't matter what one jerk at the UN says.. There is not a foreign soldier or police stationed in Gaza. Gaza is therefore NOT occupied. It is BLOCKADED by many nations.

No wonder the UN is so inept and toothless. They can't even get basic language definitions correct.
Thanks for the example of why there's no coverage at all of these new resolutions. Because they produce garbage.

 

[montelatici]

terrorism of Israel, not by Israel. Israeli response to attacks is legal.

How many times does this have to be explained to you, an occupational force cannot claim self defense.

The bottom line is, what Israel is doing is wrong. An overwhelming majority of country's have said so in these 5 resolutions and there are more on the way.

You Israeli kiss-asses are ridiculous. You want us to believe you're right and the rest of the damn world is wrong? Catch the clue, the rest of the world is right and you're fucked!

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied. Add to this the attacks on Israel civilians and you have the legal right to bomb the crap out of gaza until the terrorism, violence and illegal weapons cease.
No they haven't if you read the resolutions again as the world knows they have no force of law behind them and so are paying lip service to the Nazi's in the UN.
When you can find a breach of International law by Israel then you might have a point, but while the Palestinians are committing war crimes and breaching International law you are just promoting your usual Jew hatred .

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied.​

Yes it is. Why do you lie?

Because it's the truth.. Doesn't matter what one jerk at the UN says.. There is not a foreign soldier or police stationed in Gaza. Gaza is therefore NOT occupied. It is BLOCKADED by many nations.

No wonder the UN is so inept and toothless. They can't even get basic language definitions correct.
Thanks for the example of why there's no coverage at all of these new resolutions. Because they produce garbage.

Who are these "many nations" that are blockading Gaza? If you mean Egypt, which must do so to continue to receive U.S. aid, then it is a red herring.

Gaza is occupied under international law pursuant to many previous cases. Including, most poignantly through the Hostages Case during the Nuremburg trials which drew upon the Hague Regulations’ basic definition of occupation in order to ascertain when occupation ends. It held that "the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....”

In that Nuremburg case, the Tribunal had to decide whether Germany’s occupation of Greece and Yugoslavia had ended when Germany had ceded de facto control to non-German forces of certain territories. Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

Trial 7 - Hostage Case | Phillips Nuremberg Trials | University of Georgia School of Law

 

[flacaltenn]

terrorism of Israel, not by Israel. Israeli response to attacks is legal.

How many times does this have to be explained to you, an occupational force cannot claim self defense.

The bottom line is, what Israel is doing is wrong. An overwhelming majority of country's have said so in these 5 resolutions and there are more on the way.

You Israeli kiss-asses are ridiculous. You want us to believe you're right and the rest of the damn world is wrong? Catch the clue, the rest of the world is right and you're fucked!

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied. Add to this the attacks on Israel civilians and you have the legal right to bomb the crap out of gaza until the terrorism, violence and illegal weapons cease.
No they haven't if you read the resolutions again as the world knows they have no force of law behind them and so are paying lip service to the Nazi's in the UN.
When you can find a breach of International law by Israel then you might have a point, but while the Palestinians are committing war crimes and breaching International law you are just promoting your usual Jew hatred .

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied.​

Yes it is. Why do you lie?

Because it's the truth.. Doesn't matter what one jerk at the UN says.. There is not a foreign soldier or police stationed in Gaza. Gaza is therefore NOT occupied. It is BLOCKADED by many nations.

No wonder the UN is so inept and toothless. They can't even get basic language definitions correct.
Thanks for the example of why there's no coverage at all of these new resolutions. Because they produce garbage.

Who are these "many nations" that are blockading Gaza? If you mean Egypt, which must do so to continue to receive U.S. aid, then it is a red herring.

Gaza is occupied under international law pursuant to many previous cases. Including, most poignantly through the Hostages Case during the Nuremburg trials which drew upon the Hague Regulations’ basic definition of occupation in order to ascertain when occupation ends. It held that "the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....”

In that Nuremburg case, the Tribunal had to decide whether Germany’s occupation of Greece and Yugoslavia had ended when Germany had ceded de facto control to non-German forces of certain territories. Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

Trial 7 - Hostage Case | Phillips Nuremberg Trials | University of Georgia School of Law

Those are contorted bullshit definitions that applied to military actions of 80 years ago. Today -- by that definition --- the USA is still occupying Iraq because --

"the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....” OR

Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

That's the danger of going back 80 years for an EXCUSE to confuse occupation with sanctions or blockade. The world doesn't work that way any more..

 

[P F Tinmore]

How many times does this have to be explained to you, an occupational force cannot claim self defense.

The bottom line is, what Israel is doing is wrong. An overwhelming majority of country's have said so in these 5 resolutions and there are more on the way.

You Israeli kiss-asses are ridiculous. You want us to believe you're right and the rest of the damn world is wrong? Catch the clue, the rest of the world is right and you're fucked!

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied. Add to this the attacks on Israel civilians and you have the legal right to bomb the crap out of gaza until the terrorism, violence and illegal weapons cease.
No they haven't if you read the resolutions again as the world knows they have no force of law behind them and so are paying lip service to the Nazi's in the UN.
When you can find a breach of International law by Israel then you might have a point, but while the Palestinians are committing war crimes and breaching International law you are just promoting your usual Jew hatred .

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied.​

Yes it is. Why do you lie?

Because it's the truth.. Doesn't matter what one jerk at the UN says.. There is not a foreign soldier or police stationed in Gaza. Gaza is therefore NOT occupied. It is BLOCKADED by many nations.

No wonder the UN is so inept and toothless. They can't even get basic language definitions correct.
Thanks for the example of why there's no coverage at all of these new resolutions. Because they produce garbage.

Who are these "many nations" that are blockading Gaza? If you mean Egypt, which must do so to continue to receive U.S. aid, then it is a red herring.

Gaza is occupied under international law pursuant to many previous cases. Including, most poignantly through the Hostages Case during the Nuremburg trials which drew upon the Hague Regulations’ basic definition of occupation in order to ascertain when occupation ends. It held that "the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....”

In that Nuremburg case, the Tribunal had to decide whether Germany’s occupation of Greece and Yugoslavia had ended when Germany had ceded de facto control to non-German forces of certain territories. Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

Trial 7 - Hostage Case | Phillips Nuremberg Trials | University of Georgia School of Law

Those are contorted bullshit definitions that applied to military actions of 80 years ago. Today -- by that definition --- the USA is still occupying Iraq because --

"the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....” OR

Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

That's the danger of going back 80 years for an EXCUSE to confuse occupation with sanctions or blockade. The world doesn't work that way any more..

Israel still patrols and controls land inside Gaza. It still patrols by air. It has ships that patrol Palestine's territorial waters. It still shoots at, and sometimes kills, Palestinians inside Gaza. It still enters at will to destroy property.

Israel controls the population registry that entails ID cards, passports, and even determines who is and who is not a resident.

That is way beyond a simple blockade.

 

[montelatici]

How many times does this have to be explained to you, an occupational force cannot claim self defense.

The bottom line is, what Israel is doing is wrong. An overwhelming majority of country's have said so in these 5 resolutions and there are more on the way.

You Israeli kiss-asses are ridiculous. You want us to believe you're right and the rest of the damn world is wrong? Catch the clue, the rest of the world is right and you're fucked!

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied. Add to this the attacks on Israel civilians and you have the legal right to bomb the crap out of gaza until the terrorism, violence and illegal weapons cease.
No they haven't if you read the resolutions again as the world knows they have no force of law behind them and so are paying lip service to the Nazi's in the UN.
When you can find a breach of International law by Israel then you might have a point, but while the Palestinians are committing war crimes and breaching International law you are just promoting your usual Jew hatred .

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied.​

Yes it is. Why do you lie?

Because it's the truth.. Doesn't matter what one jerk at the UN says.. There is not a foreign soldier or police stationed in Gaza. Gaza is therefore NOT occupied. It is BLOCKADED by many nations.

No wonder the UN is so inept and toothless. They can't even get basic language definitions correct.
Thanks for the example of why there's no coverage at all of these new resolutions. Because they produce garbage.

Who are these "many nations" that are blockading Gaza? If you mean Egypt, which must do so to continue to receive U.S. aid, then it is a red herring.

Gaza is occupied under international law pursuant to many previous cases. Including, most poignantly through the Hostages Case during the Nuremburg trials which drew upon the Hague Regulations’ basic definition of occupation in order to ascertain when occupation ends. It held that "the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....”

In that Nuremburg case, the Tribunal had to decide whether Germany’s occupation of Greece and Yugoslavia had ended when Germany had ceded de facto control to non-German forces of certain territories. Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

Trial 7 - Hostage Case | Phillips Nuremberg Trials | University of Georgia School of Law

Those are contorted bullshit definitions that applied to military actions of 80 years ago. Today -- by that definition --- the USA is still occupying Iraq because --

"the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....” OR

Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

That's the danger of going back 80 years for an EXCUSE to confuse occupation with sanctions or blockade. The world doesn't work that way any more..

Just you saying so doesn't make it so. The only people in the world that believe Gaza is not occupied are Israeli Jews and partisans like you. You don't find that unusual?

Besides the United States State Department (and every other Government) deeming Gaza under Israeli occupation how about recent judicial decision from the OTP (Office of the Prosecutor)?

I guess they don't count either.

"26. Israel maintains that following the 2005 disengagement, it is no longer an occupying power in Gaza as it does not exercise effective control over the area.

27. However, the prevalent view within the international community is that Israel remains an occupying power in Gaza despite the 2005 disengagement. In general, this view is based on the scope and degree of control that Israel has retained over the territory of Gaza following the 2005 disengagement – including, inter alia, Israel’s exercise of control over border crossings, the territorial sea adjacent to the Gaza Strip, and the airspace of Gaza; its periodic military incursions within Gaza; its enforcement of no-go areas within Gaza near the border where Israeli settlements used to be; and its regulation of the local monetary market based on the Israeli currency and control of taxes and customs duties. The retention of such competences by Israel over the territory of Gaza even after the 2005 disengagement overall supports the conclusion that the authority retained by Israel amounts to effective control.

28. Although it no longer maintains a military presence in Gaza, Israel has not only shown the ability to conduct incursions into Gaza at will, but also expressly reserved the right to do so as required by military necessity. This consideration is potentially significant considering that there is support in international case law for the conclusion that it is not a prerequisite that a State maintain continuous presence in a territory in order to qualify as an occupying power. In particular, the ICTY has held that the law of occupation would also apply to areas where a state possesses “the capacity to send troops within a reasonable time to make the authority of the occupying power felt.” In this respect, it is also noted that the geographic proximity of the Gaza Strip to Israel potentially facilitates the ability of Israel to exercise effective control over the territory, despite the lack of a continuous military presence.

29. Overall, there is a reasonable basis upon which to conclude that Israel continues to be an occupying power in Gaza despite the 2005 disengagement. The Office has therefore proceeded on the basis that the situation in Gaza can be considered within the framework of an international armed conflict in view of the continuing military occupation by Israel."

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It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied. Add to this the attacks on Israel civilians and you have the legal right to bomb the crap out of gaza until the terrorism, violence and illegal weapons cease.
No they haven't if you read the resolutions again as the world knows they have no force of law behind them and so are paying lip service to the Nazi's in the UN.
When you can find a breach of International law by Israel then you might have a point, but while the Palestinians are committing war crimes and breaching International law you are just promoting your usual Jew hatred .

It is not the occupation force that is claiming self defence is it as under international law gaza is not occupied.​

Yes it is. Why do you lie?

Because it's the truth.. Doesn't matter what one jerk at the UN says.. There is not a foreign soldier or police stationed in Gaza. Gaza is therefore NOT occupied. It is BLOCKADED by many nations.

No wonder the UN is so inept and toothless. They can't even get basic language definitions correct.
Thanks for the example of why there's no coverage at all of these new resolutions. Because they produce garbage.

Who are these "many nations" that are blockading Gaza? If you mean Egypt, which must do so to continue to receive U.S. aid, then it is a red herring.

Gaza is occupied under international law pursuant to many previous cases. Including, most poignantly through the Hostages Case during the Nuremburg trials which drew upon the Hague Regulations’ basic definition of occupation in order to ascertain when occupation ends. It held that "the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....”

In that Nuremburg case, the Tribunal had to decide whether Germany’s occupation of Greece and Yugoslavia had ended when Germany had ceded de facto control to non-German forces of certain territories. Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

Trial 7 - Hostage Case | Phillips Nuremberg Trials | University of Georgia School of Law

Those are contorted bullshit definitions that applied to military actions of 80 years ago. Today -- by that definition --- the USA is still occupying Iraq because --

"the test for application of the legal regime of occupation is not whether the occupying power fails to exercise effective control over the territory, but whether it has the ability to exercise such power.....” OR

Even though Germany did not actually control those areas, the Tribunal held that Germany indeed remained the “occupying power”—both in Greece and Yugoslavia generally and in the territories to which it had ceded control since it could have reentered and controlled those territories at will.

That's the danger of going back 80 years for an EXCUSE to confuse occupation with sanctions or blockade. The world doesn't work that way any more..

Israel still patrols and controls land inside Gaza. It still patrols by air. It has ships that patrol Palestine's territorial waters. It still shoots at, and sometimes kills, Palestinians inside Gaza. It still enters at will to destroy property.

Israel controls the population registry that entails ID cards, passports, and even determines who is and who is not a resident.

That is way beyond a simple blockade.

Wrong that is just Palestinian lies and propaganda. Israel has no military on the ground inside of gaza, until they invade to stop the illegal weapons. You cant show one Israeli soldier inside the ceasefire line on a regular basis. It has ships that stop gun running and smuggling along with transporting terrorists to Israel. Just as the US does around its borders with mexico and Canada.
It shoots and kills suspected terrorists which is not against any international laws, just as the US does along its borders.
The P.A. controls all ID cards, passports, visa's and who can leave gaza not Israel.

WHY DO YOU LIE ABOUT THIS ALL THETIME WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE LINKS SHOWING YOU ARE LYING.


Under the criteria laid down in international law gaza is not occupied by Israel, if you don't like the criteria have your politicians lobby the ICC/ICJ to alter the criteria.