Escaping Christianity

[presonorek]

Went to a dr who suggested a really out of the box surgery. Lo and behold, it WORKED.

That was a good doctor. I am glad he took care of you.

It would have been totally retarded to fully rely on God. Relying on God for 5% instead if 100% was wise on your part. If you would have fully relied on God you might be dead. Praise Doctor So and So.

You realize the Bible does not prohibit drs right?

When I go to church today I'm going to be praying you are removed from, or voluntarily leave, your position very soon

It would still be dumb to rely on God. That is all I am saying.

 

[SweetSue92]

Went to a dr who suggested a really out of the box surgery. Lo and behold, it WORKED.

That was a good doctor. I am glad he took care of you.

It would have been totally retarded to fully rely on God. Relying on God for 5% instead if 100% was wise on your part. If you would have fully relied on God you might be dead. Praise Doctor So and So.

You realize the Bible does not prohibit drs right?

When I go to church today I'm going to be praying you are removed from, or voluntarily leave, your position very soon

I will keep you updated on God's work.

Entirely unnecessary. I trust Him completely to do the right thing in every circumstance. Even if it doesn't turn out in my favor, whatever that be in any situation.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Went to a dr who suggested a really out of the box surgery. Lo and behold, it WORKED.

That was a good doctor. I am glad he took care of you.

It would have been totally retarded to fully rely on God. Relying on God for 5% instead if 100% was wise on your part. If you would have fully relied on God you might be dead. Praise Doctor So and So.

You realize the Bible does not prohibit drs right?

When I go to church today I'm going to be praying you are removed from, or voluntarily leave, your position very soon

It would still be dumb to rely on God. That is all I am saying.

It's dumb not to put your faith in God.

A non believer won't get that

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

So you're going to teach the Bible for an entire year feeling it to be a lie? That's not honest. You need to resign right now.

Does your wife know about all this?

People died and killed to keep the Bible out of the hands of the masses because it has great power. Now we have free access to it but never utilize it. I can confidently teach kids to learn and respect the Bible. I will not resign right now. I enjoy teaching. Yes. My wife, kids and one of my students is aware of this.

You are not teaching the Bible honestly if you are posing as a Believer while you are doing this. You are doing this for personal gain--getting your "ducks in a row", while dishonestly profiting from the Gospel before you let your atheism out

Listen. I would not do this if I were you.

What do you think is the best thing to do?

Vasu, what turned you off? Was it that the Bible is not literal

I don't believe that God is out there. I want to cleanse my mind of religious filth for a year or so to see how normal people think. I guess I am just curious what it would be like to be secular. Will I be happier? Sadder? Nicer? Meaner? What can a lack of religion do to a man? I have a lot of garbage in my head and I want it out.

Strange that you cant see your decaying soul

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

I was raised in church, married a Christian, raised my kids in church and currently teach Bible at a Christian school. At the end of this school year (May 2020) I plan to resign as a teacher and stop attending church for one full year. At the end of that year I plan to have my name removed from the church role and afterwards make my atheism public. I love the philosphy, ethics and the culture surrounding Christianity. I just can't live a lie any more. It just can't be healthy. This invisible and silent God dude offers me nothing. I love the Bible and learn a lot from it but the God dude in that book either doesn't exist or has no interest in me. Church attendance is more burdensome than it used to be. I learn more from the Bible studying independently. Kindergarten might be fun for a 6 year old but is painfully boring to a 40 year old.

Any questions? I have lots more to say but I already feel like the post was too long.

Your loss, not mine. God said that Life was never meant to be easy, and follow him and love him, and you will get the greatest gift ever given by god. Go look into your children's eyes again, and tell me that there was no intelligent design in their creation, that it was all luck of the dice.

It wasn't. Now what? Follow your God?

So you believe that your children was just a random act?

What about the person who’s children die of cancer at 3 years old? Was that not a random act? If not, what was it?

Life. There are no guarantees. Just His promise that this doesnt have to be all their is

 

[Wyatt earp]

I was raised in church, married a Christian, raised my kids in church and currently teach Bible at a Christian school. At the end of this school year (May 2020) I plan to resign as a teacher and stop attending church for one full year. At the end of that year I plan to have my name removed from the church role and afterwards make my atheism public. I love the philosphy, ethics and the culture surrounding Christianity. I just can't live a lie any more. It just can't be healthy. This invisible and silent God dude offers me nothing. I love the Bible and learn a lot from it but the God dude in that book either doesn't exist or has no interest in me. Church attendance is more burdensome than it used to be. I learn more from the Bible studying independently. Kindergarten might be fun for a 6 year old but is painfully boring to a 40 year old.

Any questions? I have lots more to say but I already feel like the post was too long.

Your a crazy protestent who doesn't know the truth and ignores the book of james

 

[Votto]

You know you're going to hell, right?

No. I am not sure about about any of the hell stuff.

Just poking you buddy. I had a similar situation, and if I had a nickel for each time I was told I was going to hell, I would have a lot of nickels.

It's Ok.

You have a choice of either being a godless Left winger who is going to hell or a conservative who is a racist.

 

[Votto]

The Bible gl

You know you're going to hell, right?

No. I am not sure about about any of the hell stuff.

Just poking you buddy. I had a similar situation, and if I had a nickel for each time I was told I was going to hell, I would have a lot of nickels.

I kind of worry that I will lose all my friends and have to start all over. My entire social circle is Christian. Most of them will either be freaked out or pretend to be freaked out because they don't know what else to do. I have already talked to my wife. She isn't going anywhere. My kids are growing up soon anyways. I could lose them just because of the progress of time. My life will likely become worse but pretending to be perfect does some good but some harm. The harm it does to my quality of life outweighs the benefits I get from living a lie. I may keep pretending for a while longer just to make things easier. Who knows?

You seem to be adept at living a lie.

Perhaps you could go into politics.

 

[sealybobo]

I was raised in church, married a Christian, raised my kids in church and currently teach Bible at a Christian school. At the end of this school year (May 2020) I plan to resign as a teacher and stop attending church for one full year. At the end of that year I plan to have my name removed from the church role and afterwards make my atheism public. I love the philosphy, ethics and the culture surrounding Christianity. I just can't live a lie any more. It just can't be healthy. This invisible and silent God dude offers me nothing. I love the Bible and learn a lot from it but the God dude in that book either doesn't exist or has no interest in me. Church attendance is more burdensome than it used to be. I learn more from the Bible studying independently. Kindergarten might be fun for a 6 year old but is painfully boring to a 40 year old.

Any questions? I have lots more to say but I already feel like the post was too long.

Your loss, not mine. God said that Life was never meant to be easy, and follow him and love him, and you will get the greatest gift ever given by god. Go look into your children's eyes again, and tell me that there was no intelligent design in their creation, that it was all luck of the dice.

It wasn't. Now what? Follow your God?

So you believe that your children was just a random act?

What about the person who’s children die of cancer at 3 years old? Was that not a random act? If not, what was it?

Life. There are no guarantees. Just His promise that this doesnt have to be all their is

This is all there is. Better enjoy it. You are not a god in your human cocoon.

 

[Manonthestreet]

You know you're going to hell, right?

No. I am not sure about about any of the hell stuff.

Sounds like you never believed to begin with.

 

[Manonthestreet]

I have way too many questions to get to the bottom of your concerns. I am not necessarily doing what is in my own my best interest. There are other people involved in my situation. You have to remember. I don't believe in the invisible and silent God that lives in the cave where only the holy men are allowed to go. When the holy men come back from the cave to tell me stuff with a serious, convincing and sincere face it appears suspicious to me. Why can't I go in the cave too?

If God has nothing to say to me then I am under no obligation to play by His rules. Just because He tells you the rules doesn't men He shares that information with everyone. Most of us are left relying on faith or guesswork. That just isn't for me anymore. If God wants something from me then I will give Him anything He asks.

You can........that's what Temple veil being rent at His death meant.

 

[sealybobo]

You know you're going to hell, right?

No. I am not sure about about any of the hell stuff.

Sounds like you never believed to begin with.

No there was a time we bought in. Even if we didn’t fully understand. All that makes us is the typical follower.

He’s on a path towards atheist agnosticism. I can tell because I remember being in this phase. First you reject all religions and start a personal relationship with the god that doesn’t exist.

Even after you take the leap you still catch yourself thanking god occasionally. We were brainwashed too from birth. Sitting in church listening to everyone repeat the nonsense that isn’t scientifically possible. Belief is voluntary ignorance

 

[sealybobo]

I was raised in church, married a Christian, raised my kids in church and currently teach Bible at a Christian school. At the end of this school year (May 2020) I plan to resign as a teacher and stop attending church for one full year. At the end of that year I plan to have my name removed from the church role and afterwards make my atheism public. I love the philosphy, ethics and the culture surrounding Christianity. I just can't live a lie any more. It just can't be healthy. This invisible and silent God dude offers me nothing. I love the Bible and learn a lot from it but the God dude in that book either doesn't exist or has no interest in me. Church attendance is more burdensome than it used to be. I learn more from the Bible studying independently. Kindergarten might be fun for a 6 year old but is painfully boring to a 40 year old.

Any questions? I have lots more to say but I already feel like the post was too long.

Your loss, not mine. God said that Life was never meant to be easy, and follow him and love him, and you will get the greatest gift ever given by god. Go look into your children's eyes again, and tell me that there was no intelligent design in their creation, that it was all luck of the dice.

It wasn't. Now what? Follow your God?

So you believe that your children was just a random act?

What about the person who’s children die of cancer at 3 years old? Was that not a random act? If not, what was it?

Life. There are no guarantees. Just His promise that this doesnt have to be all their is

Then there is a guarantee. Follow your religion and you’ll be a god for all eternity after you die.

If you believe that I have some swamp land in Florida I want you to take a look at.

And if what you say is true, why do religious people always say belief saved them or made their lives better? You see it on tv. Send them money and god will bless you. Are they lying? Sorry, your religion is too full of bs to be real.

But if you get cancer or aids it’s gods will. Gods plan. God doesn’t make mistakes. But then what about gays?

 

[Manonthestreet]

You know you're going to hell, right?

No. I am not sure about about any of the hell stuff.

Sounds like you never believed to begin with.

No there was a time we bought in. Even if we didn’t fully understand. All that makes us is the typical follower.

He’s on a path towards atheist agnosticism. I can tell because I remember being in this phase. First you reject all religions and start a personal relationship with the god that doesn’t exist.

Even after you take the leap you still catch yourself thanking god occasionally. We were brainwashed too from birth. Sitting in church listening to everyone repeat the nonsense that isn’t scientifically possible. Belief is voluntary ignorance

Scientifically possible? That's the box you put God in?

 

[Manonthestreet]

BTW even the Apostles didn't understand everything they were told.

 

[hobelim]

No there was a time we bought in. Even if we didn’t fully understand. All that makes us is the typical follower.

How many of you are there?

 

[sealybobo]

You know you're going to hell, right?

No. I am not sure about about any of the hell stuff.

Sounds like you never believed to begin with.

No there was a time we bought in. Even if we didn’t fully understand. All that makes us is the typical follower.

He’s on a path towards atheist agnosticism. I can tell because I remember being in this phase. First you reject all religions and start a personal relationship with the god that doesn’t exist.

Even after you take the leap you still catch yourself thanking god occasionally. We were brainwashed too from birth. Sitting in church listening to everyone repeat the nonsense that isn’t scientifically possible. Belief is voluntary ignorance

Scientifically possible? That's the box you put God in?

Yea. Remember we thought lightening was god? It wasn’t. Everything is scientifically explainable.

Funny you can wrap your brain around believing god is eternal but not the universe. And you can’t fathom a multiverse with infinite universes constantly dying and being born. That you can’t contemplate but instead you accept the fairytales and explanations from an ancient religion back when we didn’t know anything about how we got here. Your ancient religions are slowly dying. But like evolution it happens slowly over time hardly noticeable

 

[sealybobo]

No there was a time we bought in. Even if we didn’t fully understand. All that makes us is the typical follower.

How many of you are there?

They say as many as 25%.

I wonder how many Muslims in the Middle East don’t believe but can’t say because they’d get their heads cut off. Christians used to be that hard on non believers. They aren’t that bad today but still not kind to non believers.

I may be harsh here but I’m kind to believers in real life. They are not. They take it personally. But at least you Christians aren’t as bad as your cousins the Scientologists

 

[Manonthestreet]

You know you're going to hell, right?

No. I am not sure about about any of the hell stuff.

Sounds like you never believed to begin with.

No there was a time we bought in. Even if we didn’t fully understand. All that makes us is the typical follower.

He’s on a path towards atheist agnosticism. I can tell because I remember being in this phase. First you reject all religions and start a personal relationship with the god that doesn’t exist.

Even after you take the leap you still catch yourself thanking god occasionally. We were brainwashed too from birth. Sitting in church listening to everyone repeat the nonsense that isn’t scientifically possible. Belief is voluntary ignorance

Scientifically possible? That's the box you put God in?

Yea. Remember we thought lightening was god? It wasn’t. Everything is scientifically explainable.

Funny you can wrap your brain around believing god is eternal but not the universe. And you can’t fathom a multiverse with infinite universes constantly dying and being born. That you can’t contemplate but instead you accept the fairytales and explanations from an ancient religion back when we didn’t know anything about how we got here. Your ancient religions are slowly dying. But like evolution it happens slowly over time hardly noticeable

Universe isn't eternal....read your Bible.

 

[Manonthestreet]

When you teach children the Bible do you refer to God as an invisible silent dude?

I am not sure. It is possible that I could have said that. I have been deeply entrenched in Christianity. Our linguistical habits are second nature to me. I walk, talk and look just like a Christianity. I am even better at being a Christianity than the people that believe it to be true.

I am sure I refer to God in the most culturally appropriate way.

No you're not.

I can guarantee that.

See my Marty Sampson thread.

Wow... you sound like you think you're better than he is...

I'll tell you this, I know for a fact that as a non believer I am a better Christian than a lot of Christians I know and have seen.

If you don't think that's true or possible, you're lying to yourself and to anyone you tell that it's not possible.

There is nothing more ironic that how absolutely fundamentally Puritan these times are. I mean look here. These cats are fighting over who is more Morally Pure on this thread.

Buncha Church Ladies. You guys duke it all out, okay? You can have it. I don't need it. I'm actually a Christian. LOL

I'm not fighting about anything. I am merely pointing out a truth. There is no fighting the truth.

You probably are. Not everyone who calls themself a Christian is, like the op...whether those you know are is anyone's guess, even Christ talked with very upright people who just couldn't see or understand what he said.