Eots why did wtc 7 collapse

[Mr.Fitnah]

lol there is not one word there that says this is particularly unconventional
and either does NIST

This thread is about eots demonstrating independent knowledge of the NIST report.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

The sound issue has been closed .


Are you stating that a blast was not responsible for the collapse of WTC 7 ,is that correct ?

and how is the sound issue closed exactly ? and No I am pointing out the lame ass excuses NIST used for not properly investigating the possibly of explosives and the flaws in their fire theory[/QUOTE]
The sound issue is closed do to you statement

no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2800111-post56.html

Are you stating that a blast was not responsible for the collapse of WTC 7 ,is that correct ?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Your entire investigation included no physical evidence. How can you be so sure you know what happened?

the NIST investigation of WTC 7 is based on a huge amount of data. These data come from extensive research, interviews, and studies of the building, including audio and video recordings of the collapse. Rigorous, state-of-the-art computer methods were designed to study and model the building's collapse. These validated computer models produced a collapse sequence that was confirmed by observations of what actually occurred. In addition to using its in-house expertise, NIST relied upon private sector technical experts; accumulated copious documents, photographs and videos of this disaster; conducted first-person interviews of building occupants and emergency responders; analyzed the evacuation and emergency response operations in and around WTC 7; performed computer simulations of the behavior of WTC 7 on Sept. 11, 2001, and combined the knowledge gained into a probable collapse sequence.

Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation

Some 200 technical experts—including about 85 career NIST experts and 125 leading experts from the private sector and academia—reviewed tens of thousands of documents, interviewed more than 1,000 people, reviewed 7,000 segments of video footage and 7,000 photographs, analyzed 236 pieces of steel from the wreckage, performed laboratory tests and sophisticated computer simulations of the sequence of events that occurred from the moment the aircraft struck the towers until they began to collapse.
NIST's Investigation of the Sept. 11 World Trade Center Disaster - Frequently Asked Questions

 

[SFC Ollie]

If people actually study the design of the Twin Towers & WTC7 you will discover how faulty their design was against fire.

WTC7 had little support in the center because it was built over an electrical power station so all the weight had to be transfered towards the exterior of the building on a couple of main trusses. To top that there was many times more fuel stored in that building than those jetliners had in them that hit WTC 1 & 2.

The long span trusses in WTC 1 & 2 were extremely vulnerable to heat. Add the weight of a few collapsed floors & a loaded 767 Jet Plane to the floor below & it is easy to see why each floor would drop onto the next tearing them out one by one gaining mass & momentum. Without the floors the walls could not stand & every wall section would fall away as soon as the floors holding them together gave way.

You been reading too many of the fairy tales of Popular Mechanics.John Skilling after the 93 bombing told reporters when asked what would happen to the towers if struck by an airliner said they anticipated the fires replying-There would be a great loss of life due to the fires but the structure itself would remain standing.

They also reinforced the steel with more fireproofing after the 93 bombing also the majority of the fires explosion took place outside the towers not to mention the black smoke that emits from the towers proves it was oxygen starved.Also steel framed towers steel columns are thicker and stronger from the base.They are less thick and are thinner higher up so that destroys that theory. You used to make good posts saying that explosives brought the towers down.sounds like lately you have changed your mind and been taken in by propaganda.those fires werent hot enough to melt a marshmellow,let alone weaken the steel.

not to mention it was the first time in history that a steel framed highrise building collapsed due to fire.The Meridian hotel in Philly in 97 burned for 18 hours on end and was a far more serious fire than the twin towers were.it was lit up like a torch and remained standing.you are also obviously not aware that NIST rejected your theory.

Bull Shit, ever seen plastic burn? Nothing in an office burns giving off black smoke? Are you that dense?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Bull Shit, ever seen plastic burn? Nothing in an office burns giving off black smoke? Are you that dense?

Please start your own thread Mr Ollie.
This thread is about eots demonstrating independent knowledge of the NIST report.

 

[daveman]

You been reading too many of the fairy tales of Popular Mechanics.John Skilling after the 93 bombing told reporters when asked what would happen to the towers if struck by an airliner said they anticipated the fires replying-There would be a great loss of life due to the fires but the structure itself would remain standing.

And the White Star Line said the RMS Titanic was unsinkable. How'd that work out for them?

again apples and oranges.Except with Titanic Dunceman,they did not have witnesses, many of them very credible people as I just proved in my link which proves explosives were used.the witness testimonys alone prove it and as i have said a million times,to accept the official collape of the towers,then your saying all these thousands of architects and engineers and well known scientists are not credible sources, not to mention to accept it,your saying the laws of physics scientists have gone by for thousands of years no longer applies anymore.

Yes, but you're a nutcase.

 

[daveman]

This thread is about eots demonstrating independent knowledge of the NIST report.

You're not holding your breath, are you?

 

[eots]

The sound issue has been closed .


Are you stating that a blast was not responsible for the collapse of WTC 7 ,is that correct ?

and how is the sound issue closed exactly ? and No I am pointing out the http://www.usmessageboard.com/images/smilies/lol.giflame ass excuses NIST used for not properly investigating the possibly of explosives and the flaws in their fire theory

The sound issue is closed do to you statement

no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2800111-post56.html

this statement in from NIST sand we know it to be false..untrue..a lie

Are you stating that a blast was not responsible for the collapse of WTC 7 ,is that correct ?

No

 

[eots]

Your entire investigation included no physical evidence. How can you be so sure you know what happened?

the NIST investigation of WTC 7 is based on a huge amount of data. These data come from extensive research, interviews, and studies of the building, including audio and video recordings of the collapse. Rigorous, state-of-the-art computer methods were designed to study and model the building's collapse. These validated computer models produced a collapse sequence that was confirmed by observations of what actually occurred. In addition to using its in-house expertise, NIST relied upon private sector technical experts; accumulated copious documents, photographs and videos of this disaster; conducted first-person interviews of building occupants and emergency responders; analyzed the evacuation and emergency response operations in and around WTC 7; performed computer simulations of the behavior of WTC 7 on Sept. 11, 2001, and combined the knowledge gained into a probable collapse sequence.

Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation

Some 200 technical experts—including about 85 career NIST experts and 125 leading experts from the private sector and academia—reviewed tens of thousands of documents,

these individuals are comparmentalized working on specific task not the report on a whole and none of them signed off on the final conclusions of the report

interviewed more than 1,000 people, reviewed 7,000 segments of video footage and 7,000 photographs, analyzed 236 pieces of steel from the wreckage, performed laboratory tests

but you see lil ollie enquirer minds pose the question what test ? and what were the results ?..we also know that while they may have done interviews they omitted any testimony that did not fit the theory

and sophisticated computer simulations of the sequence of events that occurred from the moment the aircraft struck the towers until they began to collapse.
NIST's Investigation of the Sept. 11 World Trade Center Disaster - Frequently Asked Questions

a completely flawed computer simulation

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuyZJl9YleY]YouTube - WTC 7 NIST Model vs. Reality[/ame]

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Are you stating that a blast was not responsible for the collapse of WTC 7 ,is that correct ?

No

Please state the elements other than sound waves NIST uses to prove that explosives where not used to bring down WTC 7.

 

[Fizz]

nist admits there is no physical evidence and that they entire report is based on data from photos ,videos, interviews and computer simulations

and your evidence to the contrary is base on..?

logic, reason and the laws of physics

funny how you cant even understand the NIST report and dont even know the difference between a question and a statement yet you feel qualified to interpret what the report actually says and explain it to other people.

you must be stoned again.

 

[elvis]

and your evidence to the contrary is base on..?

logic, reason and the laws of physics

funny how you cant even understand the NIST report and dont even know the difference between a question and a statement yet you feel qualified to interpret what the report actually says and explain it to other people.

you must be stoned again.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sijN4Lt5c10]YouTube - Rainy Day Women No. 12 & 35[/ame]

 

[Fizz]

not to mention it was the first time in history that a steel framed highrise building collapsed due to fire.The Meridian hotel in Philly in 97 burned for 18 hours on end and was a far more serious fire than the twin towers were.it was lit up like a torch and remained standing.you are also obviously not aware that NIST rejected your theory.

the fire in philly was actively fought the entire time and was not of the same type of construction as the towers. not sure what you are basing the "far more serious fire" and "lit up like a torch" comments on but they simply arent true.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

No

Please state the elements other than sound waves NIST uses to prove that explosives where not used to bring down WTC 7.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

not to mention it was the first time in history that a steel framed highrise building collapsed due to fire.The Meridian hotel in Philly in 97 burned for 18 hours on end and was a far more serious fire than the twin towers were.it was lit up like a torch and remained standing.you are also obviously not aware that NIST rejected your theory.

the fire in philly was actively fought the entire time and was not of the same type of construction as the towers. not sure what you are basing the "far more serious fire" and "lit up like a torch" comments on but they simply arent true.

Please start your own thread Mr Fizz
This thread is about eots demonstrating independent knowledge of the NIST report.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

This should not take very long Mr eots .The NIST report is complete and thorough and the "hypothetic blast theory " does not take up much space , please summarize the "hypothetic blast theory " section of the report.

You aught to be able to tick them off one at a time rather than have to google the universe.


A lesson , don't hold strong opinions about things you don't understand .

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Im sorry Mr.eots, Maybe you are having a hard time understanding what Im asking.
I want a short synopsis of what the NIST report says about the hypothetical blast scenario and your pinion as to why there facts are flawed.

You have strong opinions about 911 , you should be able to produce this off the top of your head.

 

[eots]

not to mention it was the first time in history that a steel framed highrise building collapsed due to fire.The Meridian hotel in Philly in 97 burned for 18 hours on end and was a far more serious fire than the twin towers were.it was lit up like a torch and remained standing.you are also obviously not aware that NIST rejected your theory.

the fire in philly was actively fought the entire time and was not of the same type of construction as the towers. not sure what you are basing the "far more serious fire" and "lit up like a torch" comments on but they simply arent true.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Qg_-89Zr8]YouTube - Bad Ass Skyscraper Fires and Destruction!! Awesome!![/ame]

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Im sorry Mr.eots, Maybe you are having a hard time understanding what Im asking.
I want a short synopsis of what the NIST report says about the hypothetical blast scenario and your pinion as to why there facts are flawed.

You have strong opinions about 911 , you should be able to produce this off the top of your head.