Environmental Fascists Responsible For Oil Spill

[driveby]

Well, the economy is improving, the Alaska Loon is no longer chanting "Drill, baby, Drill", and people are slowly returning to work.

As for the rest of you stupidity, who cares.

What we are going to see, after we look back from the vantage point of history, is two competant Presidents, Clinton and Obama, bracketing the most incompetant President in the histoy of our nation.

Yes they are returning to work, who knew all we had to do was have a census every year ? ......

 

[PoliticalChic]

That's relevant how?

Your statement: "The idea that "Big Green" is "forcing" oil companies into the Gulf is ridiculous. BP is there because there is a lot of oil in the Gulf. Full-stop. They'd still be there even if they could drill in ANWR et. al. Why? Because its there! "


Out west we may have what could be called a "Persia on the Plains." A Rand Corp. study says the Green River Formation covering parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming has the largest known oil shale deposits in the world, holding from 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil. It's all on dry land, but it's all locked up by federal edict.
Environmentalists Also To Blame For Exxon Valdez And Gulf Spills - Political Hotwire: Political Forum


The professional environmentalists and the Obama Administration are definitely to blame in this one. It is so obvious to anyone with common sense that the environmentalists have forced energy recovery from safe areas to the most dangerous (deep water). They are also responsible, thanks to their strangulation of America's energy industry. The first criminal investigation should be on the efforts to stop the planned burning of the crude and natural gas. As Obama said they have been in charge since day one. He along the environmentalist who put such harsh regulations on the industry should be investigated.

http://www.investors...ulf-Spills.aspx

Emphasis mine.

These are relevant to the discussion. Your comment, "The idea that "Big Green" is "forcing" oil companies into the Gulf is ridiculous." is, ridiculous.

Relevant...

Energy
Gas Industry Faces The Dangers Of Fracking

Christopher Helman, 09.28.09, 08:30 PM EDT

Politicians want to regulate the use of hydraulic fracturing in oil and gas wells. If the industry is smart, it will reform on its own.

HOUSTON -- Last week the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection shut down some operations of natural gas driller Cabot Oil & Gas after 8,000 gallons of toxic chemicals were spilled on the ground and into a creek in Susquehanna County.

Houston-based Cabot Oil & Gas ( COG - news - people ) says a hose ruptured during a process called hydraulic fracturing, a method used to break apart tight rock formations, allowing gas to escape, in which a million gallons of water mixed with sand and chemicals are shot down a well under immense pressure.

More than 80% of all wells drilled in the U.S. today use some kind of "fracking." And in the Marcellus basin, a shale rock formation that stretches across Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York and West Virginia, usage is more like 100%. Without the high flow rates created by the frack, the gas wouldn't be economical to go after. With the fracks, geologists figure the Marcellus has more than 50 trillion cubic feet of gas, enough to meet all of U.S. needs for two years.

But can hydraulic fracturing be trusted? This wasn't Cabot's first fracking fracas. Pennsylvania's DEP cited the company last February for contaminating wells used for drinking near drill sites.

In a 2007 case unrelated to Cabot, an Ohio house exploded from what state regulators determined was a buildup of methane bubbling up water pipes from wells polluted by drilling operations. Nineteen neighboring homes were evacuated. Last April at least 10 cows died in Louisiana after drinking fracking chemicals collected at a drilling site operated by Chesapeake Energy ( CHK - news - people ).

So what's in this stuff? Hydrochloric acid, solvents, surfactants, petroleum-based lubricants, corrosion inhibitors, microbe killers. Basically, it's a lot of the same carcinogenic chemicals found in household cleaners like Formula 409 and Drano.

Gas Industry Faces The Dangers Of Fracking - Forbes.com

1. "Gas drilling advocates and industry representatives dismiss any contention that extracting gas from 4,000 feet below the earth could crack an aquifer as the Mangan's contend or in any way threaten water supplies which are often within 100 to 300 feet from the surface.

"No one out there can give me an example of one well in Ohio where water has been contaminated by a frack job," said Tom Stewart, executive vice president of the Ohio Oil and Gas Association.

"There's already 3,500 feet in some cases of rock between the groundwater and where you get the oil and gas and that's a formidable barrier. If they were failing everywhere, we'd know it."

Further, most Ohio drillers use only about 250,000 gallons of frack fluid on a given well, fluid they must contain and dispose of properly in a regulated brine well, state officials said. "
Oil and gas drilling's threat to our drinking water is local, national debate | Metro - cleveland.com - cleveland.com


2. I suggest that neither of us pretend that we have degrees in geology, or expertise in oil drillilng...or are able to ascertain the degree to which politics and fear-tactics are involved.

The question under discussion is whether or not environmental-ideology determines where drilling and exploration is involved. I contend that the answer is obvious.

 

[Bfgrn]

Your statement: "The idea that "Big Green" is "forcing" oil companies into the Gulf is ridiculous. BP is there because there is a lot of oil in the Gulf. Full-stop. They'd still be there even if they could drill in ANWR et. al. Why? Because its there! "


Out west we may have what could be called a "Persia on the Plains." A Rand Corp. study says the Green River Formation covering parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming has the largest known oil shale deposits in the world, holding from 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil. It's all on dry land, but it's all locked up by federal edict.
Environmentalists Also To Blame For Exxon Valdez And Gulf Spills - Political Hotwire: Political Forum


The professional environmentalists and the Obama Administration are definitely to blame in this one. It is so obvious to anyone with common sense that the environmentalists have forced energy recovery from safe areas to the most dangerous (deep water). They are also responsible, thanks to their strangulation of America's energy industry. The first criminal investigation should be on the efforts to stop the planned burning of the crude and natural gas. As Obama said they have been in charge since day one. He along the environmentalist who put such harsh regulations on the industry should be investigated.

http://www.investors...ulf-Spills.aspx

Emphasis mine.

These are relevant to the discussion. Your comment, "The idea that "Big Green" is "forcing" oil companies into the Gulf is ridiculous." is, ridiculous.

Relevant...

Energy
Gas Industry Faces The Dangers Of Fracking

Christopher Helman, 09.28.09, 08:30 PM EDT

Politicians want to regulate the use of hydraulic fracturing in oil and gas wells. If the industry is smart, it will reform on its own.

HOUSTON -- Last week the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection shut down some operations of natural gas driller Cabot Oil & Gas after 8,000 gallons of toxic chemicals were spilled on the ground and into a creek in Susquehanna County.

Houston-based Cabot Oil & Gas ( COG - news - people ) says a hose ruptured during a process called hydraulic fracturing, a method used to break apart tight rock formations, allowing gas to escape, in which a million gallons of water mixed with sand and chemicals are shot down a well under immense pressure.

More than 80% of all wells drilled in the U.S. today use some kind of "fracking." And in the Marcellus basin, a shale rock formation that stretches across Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York and West Virginia, usage is more like 100%. Without the high flow rates created by the frack, the gas wouldn't be economical to go after. With the fracks, geologists figure the Marcellus has more than 50 trillion cubic feet of gas, enough to meet all of U.S. needs for two years.

But can hydraulic fracturing be trusted? This wasn't Cabot's first fracking fracas. Pennsylvania's DEP cited the company last February for contaminating wells used for drinking near drill sites.

In a 2007 case unrelated to Cabot, an Ohio house exploded from what state regulators determined was a buildup of methane bubbling up water pipes from wells polluted by drilling operations. Nineteen neighboring homes were evacuated. Last April at least 10 cows died in Louisiana after drinking fracking chemicals collected at a drilling site operated by Chesapeake Energy ( CHK - news - people ).

So what's in this stuff? Hydrochloric acid, solvents, surfactants, petroleum-based lubricants, corrosion inhibitors, microbe killers. Basically, it's a lot of the same carcinogenic chemicals found in household cleaners like Formula 409 and Drano.

Gas Industry Faces The Dangers Of Fracking - Forbes.com

1. "Gas drilling advocates and industry representatives dismiss any contention that extracting gas from 4,000 feet below the earth could crack an aquifer as the Mangan's contend or in any way threaten water supplies which are often within 100 to 300 feet from the surface.

"No one out there can give me an example of one well in Ohio where water has been contaminated by a frack job," said Tom Stewart, executive vice president of the Ohio Oil and Gas Association.

"There's already 3,500 feet in some cases of rock between the groundwater and where you get the oil and gas and that's a formidable barrier. If they were failing everywhere, we'd know it."

Further, most Ohio drillers use only about 250,000 gallons of frack fluid on a given well, fluid they must contain and dispose of properly in a regulated brine well, state officials said. "
Oil and gas drilling's threat to our drinking water is local, national debate | Metro - cleveland.com - cleveland.com


2. I suggest that neither of us pretend that we have degrees in geology, or expertise in oil drillilng...or are able to ascertain the degree to which politics and fear-tactics are involved.

The question under discussion is whether or not environmental-ideology determines where drilling and exploration is involved. I contend that the answer is obvious.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus

"Gasland" . NOW on PBS

This week, NOW talks with filmmaker Josh Fox about "Gasland", his Sundance award-winning documentary on the surprising consequences of natural gas drilling. Fox's film—inspired when the gas company came to his hometown—alleges chronic illness, animal-killing toxic waste, disastrous explosions, and regulatory missteps.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Relevant...

Energy
Gas Industry Faces The Dangers Of Fracking

Christopher Helman, 09.28.09, 08:30 PM EDT

Politicians want to regulate the use of hydraulic fracturing in oil and gas wells. If the industry is smart, it will reform on its own.

HOUSTON -- Last week the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection shut down some operations of natural gas driller Cabot Oil & Gas after 8,000 gallons of toxic chemicals were spilled on the ground and into a creek in Susquehanna County.

Houston-based Cabot Oil & Gas ( COG - news - people ) says a hose ruptured during a process called hydraulic fracturing, a method used to break apart tight rock formations, allowing gas to escape, in which a million gallons of water mixed with sand and chemicals are shot down a well under immense pressure.

More than 80% of all wells drilled in the U.S. today use some kind of "fracking." And in the Marcellus basin, a shale rock formation that stretches across Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York and West Virginia, usage is more like 100%. Without the high flow rates created by the frack, the gas wouldn't be economical to go after. With the fracks, geologists figure the Marcellus has more than 50 trillion cubic feet of gas, enough to meet all of U.S. needs for two years.

But can hydraulic fracturing be trusted? This wasn't Cabot's first fracking fracas. Pennsylvania's DEP cited the company last February for contaminating wells used for drinking near drill sites.

In a 2007 case unrelated to Cabot, an Ohio house exploded from what state regulators determined was a buildup of methane bubbling up water pipes from wells polluted by drilling operations. Nineteen neighboring homes were evacuated. Last April at least 10 cows died in Louisiana after drinking fracking chemicals collected at a drilling site operated by Chesapeake Energy ( CHK - news - people ).

So what's in this stuff? Hydrochloric acid, solvents, surfactants, petroleum-based lubricants, corrosion inhibitors, microbe killers. Basically, it's a lot of the same carcinogenic chemicals found in household cleaners like Formula 409 and Drano.

Gas Industry Faces The Dangers Of Fracking - Forbes.com

1. "Gas drilling advocates and industry representatives dismiss any contention that extracting gas from 4,000 feet below the earth could crack an aquifer as the Mangan's contend or in any way threaten water supplies which are often within 100 to 300 feet from the surface.

"No one out there can give me an example of one well in Ohio where water has been contaminated by a frack job," said Tom Stewart, executive vice president of the Ohio Oil and Gas Association.

"There's already 3,500 feet in some cases of rock between the groundwater and where you get the oil and gas and that's a formidable barrier. If they were failing everywhere, we'd know it."

Further, most Ohio drillers use only about 250,000 gallons of frack fluid on a given well, fluid they must contain and dispose of properly in a regulated brine well, state officials said. "
Oil and gas drilling's threat to our drinking water is local, national debate | Metro - cleveland.com - cleveland.com


2. I suggest that neither of us pretend that we have degrees in geology, or expertise in oil drillilng...or are able to ascertain the degree to which politics and fear-tactics are involved.

The question under discussion is whether or not environmental-ideology determines where drilling and exploration is involved. I contend that the answer is obvious.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus

"Gasland" . NOW on PBS

This week, NOW talks with filmmaker Josh Fox about "Gasland", his Sundance award-winning documentary on the surprising consequences of natural gas drilling. Fox's film—inspired when the gas company came to his hometown—alleges chronic illness, animal-killing toxic waste, disastrous explosions, and regulatory missteps.

Possibly you chose to ignore this part of the post: "able to ascertain the degree to which politics and fear-tactics are involved."

Not surprising, as it includes your raison d'être


Of course, the real fun of the USMB is turning over a rock and finding a rabid, ideologically inflamed poster such as you.

And the nature of a message board keeps the spittle from getting all over.

Keep up the good work.

 

[Bfgrn]

1. "Gas drilling advocates and industry representatives dismiss any contention that extracting gas from 4,000 feet below the earth could crack an aquifer as the Mangan's contend or in any way threaten water supplies which are often within 100 to 300 feet from the surface.

"No one out there can give me an example of one well in Ohio where water has been contaminated by a frack job," said Tom Stewart, executive vice president of the Ohio Oil and Gas Association.

"There's already 3,500 feet in some cases of rock between the groundwater and where you get the oil and gas and that's a formidable barrier. If they were failing everywhere, we'd know it."

Further, most Ohio drillers use only about 250,000 gallons of frack fluid on a given well, fluid they must contain and dispose of properly in a regulated brine well, state officials said. "
Oil and gas drilling's threat to our drinking water is local, national debate | Metro - cleveland.com - cleveland.com


2. I suggest that neither of us pretend that we have degrees in geology, or expertise in oil drillilng...or are able to ascertain the degree to which politics and fear-tactics are involved.

The question under discussion is whether or not environmental-ideology determines where drilling and exploration is involved. I contend that the answer is obvious.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus

"Gasland" . NOW on PBS

This week, NOW talks with filmmaker Josh Fox about "Gasland", his Sundance award-winning documentary on the surprising consequences of natural gas drilling. Fox's film—inspired when the gas company came to his hometown—alleges chronic illness, animal-killing toxic waste, disastrous explosions, and regulatory missteps.

Possibly you chose to ignore this part of the post: "able to ascertain the degree to which politics and fear-tactics are involved."

Not surprising, as it includes your raison d'être


Of course, the real fun of the USMB is turning over a rock and finding a rabid, ideologically inflamed poster such as you.

And the nature of a message board keeps the spittle from getting all over.

Keep up the good work.

What the fuck is wrong with you? We're talking about people's lives. If you had the courage to WATCH the 23 minute piece, you might learn something.

Maybe you have ADHD, so here is a 2 minute trailer...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8]YouTube - GASLAND Trailer 2010[/ame]

"We didn't inherit this land from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."
Lakota Sioux Proverb

 

[Big Fitz]

One thing's for certain. This thread proved you can reason with ecofascists.

 

[The T]

The worst oil spill in history occurred in 1979, in 150 feet of water.

So, your premises are the following:

1. Techniques and precautions are identical, even though the previous event took place over 30 years ago.

2. Solutions are no more difficult in coastal waters and on land than in mile deep locations.

These 'unspoken assumptions' represent your response?

Nor, it seems, do you wish to comment on the overwhelming control, exhibited by Big Green, of the future of America. Wise choice.

[?] <==Should have been included. Awesome post.

Big Green is gonna be the downfall of us...all the SAME as BIG PC. [And NO you Statist freaks reading this do I mean your COMPUTER].

 

[Bfgrn]

One thing's for certain. This thread proved you can reason with ecofascists.

You know, you right wing scum bags always throw around word like fascists and communists, yet it is ALWAYS the right that shows absolutely no regard for human beings.

You can't be a fascist, UNLESS you discount and depreciate human beings.

One that confounds good and evil is an enemy to good.
Edmund Burke

 

[NYcarbineer]

Quite frankly, only an idiot would believe that more drilling on land would have prevented the oil companies from drilling in deep water.

But the right is full of idiots.

BP was capping the well when it blew. They didn't even need to pump and sell this oil.

You have to remember the equation:

The need for evidence to support a myth is inversely proportionate to the desire for the myth to be true.

Rightwingers desire very very very much for a way to blame this spill on the left; it thus does require much evidence at all behind a story that blames the left for the right to believe it.

Just another form of ignorance.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You avoided a basic issue. Why was BP capping the well and not pumping it?

i noticed PC again avoided your question when she replied to this post, so I'll answer it for her.

It's the same reason the oil monopoly has capped the drilled and proven oil wells in Alaska, to keep supply down and prices up.

Of course, but why would they be able to simply cap a well and leave the oil under the sea, if the greenies have 'forced' them into the deep? Why are the top five most profitable companies in the world oil companies,

if the greenies are forcing them out of business?

 

[NYcarbineer]

My, oh, my...did I upset you?

Why? Because I made you appear the fool?
C'mon..You look like a fool with metronomic regularity.

Let's see which post it was:
This one?
So, your premises are the following:

1. Techniques and precautions are identical, even though the previous event took place over 30 years ago.

2. Solutions are no more difficult in coastal waters and on land than in mile deep locations.


This?
So your defense is to persist in creating the strawman argument that I claimed that there is not any off shore drilling?


Was it this?
Obama said the government would seek aggressive new operating standards and requirements for offshore oil companies. For now, he said, the government was suspending planned oil exploration of two locations off the coast of Alaska, canceling pending lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico and a proposed lease sale off Virginia, and halting for six months the issuance of new permits for deep-water wells.


No...I bet it was this little public spanking:
I said 'not any.' How many would that include? Ah, yes,...none.

2. In the former highlighting we find the phrase "...in large measure..." This seems not to include 'not any.' So, it seems that if you are resting "I highlighted you refuting yourself..." on this, you would be...what is the word? Oh, yes: WRONG!

3. The latter highlighting includes this phrase: "A truer statement ..." Now, perhaps this is too nuanced for you, but 'truer' means closer to the absolute truth, and implies that there is a more supremely correct, that is without limitation, statement...one which I chose not to use because I enjoy being correct.

So, it seems that my post remains a paragon of exactitude.



Or maybe the review of my premise, this:
No, I actually believe that Big Green and their allies have made it more difficult for the industry to drill and explore.
My idea is that drilling and exploring should be anywhere there is an indication of oil.


C'mon...don't be upset: wear the appellation like a badge: fool. Could be worse...I guess.

Your post is an incoherent conglomeration of rubbish. Have you no capacity to be concise?

 

[Ravi]

One thing's for certain. This thread proved you can reason with ecofascists.

Link? I haven't seen any reasoning with environmentalists on this thread. Just a lot of hysterical stupidity.

 

[Old Rocks]

Your statement: "The idea that "Big Green" is "forcing" oil companies into the Gulf is ridiculous. BP is there because there is a lot of oil in the Gulf. Full-stop. They'd still be there even if they could drill in ANWR et. al. Why? Because its there! "


Out west we may have what could be called a "Persia on the Plains." A Rand Corp. study says the Green River Formation covering parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming has the largest known oil shale deposits in the world, holding from 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil. It's all on dry land, but it's all locked up by federal edict.
Environmentalists Also To Blame For Exxon Valdez And Gulf Spills - Political Hotwire: Political Forum


The professional environmentalists and the Obama Administration are definitely to blame in this one. It is so obvious to anyone with common sense that the environmentalists have forced energy recovery from safe areas to the most dangerous (deep water). They are also responsible, thanks to their strangulation of America's energy industry. The first criminal investigation should be on the efforts to stop the planned burning of the crude and natural gas. As Obama said they have been in charge since day one. He along the environmentalist who put such harsh regulations on the industry should be investigated.

http://www.investors...ulf-Spills.aspx

Emphasis mine.

These are relevant to the discussion. Your comment, "The idea that "Big Green" is "forcing" oil companies into the Gulf is ridiculous." is, ridiculous.

Relevant...

Energy
Gas Industry Faces The Dangers Of Fracking

Christopher Helman, 09.28.09, 08:30 PM EDT

Politicians want to regulate the use of hydraulic fracturing in oil and gas wells. If the industry is smart, it will reform on its own.

HOUSTON -- Last week the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection shut down some operations of natural gas driller Cabot Oil & Gas after 8,000 gallons of toxic chemicals were spilled on the ground and into a creek in Susquehanna County.

Houston-based Cabot Oil & Gas ( COG - news - people ) says a hose ruptured during a process called hydraulic fracturing, a method used to break apart tight rock formations, allowing gas to escape, in which a million gallons of water mixed with sand and chemicals are shot down a well under immense pressure.

More than 80% of all wells drilled in the U.S. today use some kind of "fracking." And in the Marcellus basin, a shale rock formation that stretches across Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York and West Virginia, usage is more like 100%. Without the high flow rates created by the frack, the gas wouldn't be economical to go after. With the fracks, geologists figure the Marcellus has more than 50 trillion cubic feet of gas, enough to meet all of U.S. needs for two years.

But can hydraulic fracturing be trusted? This wasn't Cabot's first fracking fracas. Pennsylvania's DEP cited the company last February for contaminating wells used for drinking near drill sites.

In a 2007 case unrelated to Cabot, an Ohio house exploded from what state regulators determined was a buildup of methane bubbling up water pipes from wells polluted by drilling operations. Nineteen neighboring homes were evacuated. Last April at least 10 cows died in Louisiana after drinking fracking chemicals collected at a drilling site operated by Chesapeake Energy ( CHK - news - people ).

So what's in this stuff? Hydrochloric acid, solvents, surfactants, petroleum-based lubricants, corrosion inhibitors, microbe killers. Basically, it's a lot of the same carcinogenic chemicals found in household cleaners like Formula 409 and Drano.

Gas Industry Faces The Dangers Of Fracking - Forbes.com

1. "Gas drilling advocates and industry representatives dismiss any contention that extracting gas from 4,000 feet below the earth could crack an aquifer as the Mangan's contend or in any way threaten water supplies which are often within 100 to 300 feet from the surface.

"No one out there can give me an example of one well in Ohio where water has been contaminated by a frack job," said Tom Stewart, executive vice president of the Ohio Oil and Gas Association.

"There's already 3,500 feet in some cases of rock between the groundwater and where you get the oil and gas and that's a formidable barrier. If they were failing everywhere, we'd know it."

Further, most Ohio drillers use only about 250,000 gallons of frack fluid on a given well, fluid they must contain and dispose of properly in a regulated brine well, state officials said. "
Oil and gas drilling's threat to our drinking water is local, national debate | Metro - cleveland.com - cleveland.com


2. I suggest that neither of us pretend that we have degrees in geology, or expertise in oil drillilng...or are able to ascertain the degree to which politics and fear-tactics are involved.

The question under discussion is whether or not environmental-ideology determines where drilling and exploration is involved. I contend that the answer is obvious.

Bluedaze: DRILLING REFORM FOR TEXAS: BREAKING: Natural gas in aquifer causes evacuations

Tuesday, April 20, 2010
BREAKING: Natural gas in aquifer causes evacuations
Natural gas has contaminated another aquifer and private water wells. Over 200 residents were evacuated on a day very close to the anniversary of the cattle deaths. Residents who depend on the Carisso Wilcox Aquifer are now left wondering what they will do without water.

Evacuations to last another 24 hours for S. Caddo residents.


CADDO PARISH, LA (KSLA) - Caddo Parish Sheriff Steve Prator says it will be at least another 24 hours before residents evacuated from parts of S. Caddo Parish can return home.

During a morning news conference, Prator said the DEQ had been monitoring the contaminated wells and that so far there was "not much progress." DEQ will continue to test the contaminated wells during the day.

Prator also said more residents could get well contamination notices depending on what the testing shows.

Authorities, Exco officials and DEQ agents will meet again at 4 p.m. and will hold a media briefing at 5 p.m.


Several videos available.
VIDEO

It defies all logic and reason to believe that this won't or hasn't happened here. We already have a methane seep.

UPDATE: Officials expanding water testing area

 

[Old Rocks]

Here you go, dumb ass Politial Chick. From the Scientific American, no less.

Does Natural Gas Drilling Make Water Burn?: Scientific American

DIMOCK, PA -- Norma Fiorentino&#8217;s drinking water well was a time bomb. For weeks, as workers drilled natural gas deposits nearby, stray methane worked into tiny crevasses in the rock, leaking upward into the aquifer and slipping quietly into her well. Then, according to the state&#8217;s working theory, a pump turned on in her well house, flicked a spark, and caused a New Year&#8217;s morning blast that tossed aside a several-thousand-pound concrete slab.

Afterward state officials found methane, the largest component of natural gas, in her drinking water.

Dimock, the poverty-stricken Susquehana County enclave where Fiorentino lives, is ground zero for drilling the Marcellus Shale, a prized deposit of natural gas touted as one of the most abundant and cleanest alternatives to oil. The drilling here is supposed to be a boon, bringing jobs and millions of dollars in royalties to cash-strapped homeowners.

But a string of documented cases of gas escaping into drinking water &#8211; in Pennsylvania and other states &#8211; is raising new concerns about the hidden costs of this economic tide and strengthening arguments across the country that drilling can put drinking water at risk.

 

[Old Rocks]

ODNR News Releases - New Oil and Gas Well Drilling Permit Conditions Implemented For Northeast Ohio

New Oil and Gas Well Drilling Permit Conditions Implemented For Northeast Ohio
Jan
18 Written by: news editor
1/18/2008 2:00 AM

01/18/08 - New permitting conditions designed to prevent the leakage of natural gas from oil and gas wells into freshwater aquifers are now in effect for a broad northeast Ohio area.
NEW OIL AND GAS WELL DRILLING PERMIT CONDITIONS IMPLEMENTED FOR NORTHEAST OHIO
New permit conditions aimed at preventing natural gas from leaking into local drinking water sources and presenting a hazard

COLUMBUS, OH - New permitting conditions designed to prevent the leakage of natural gas from oil and gas wells into freshwater aquifers are now in effect for a broad northeast Ohio area.

The permitting conditions will affect oil and natural gas drilling operations in all of Cuyahoga, Lake, Ashtabula and Geauga counties, as well as northern Summit and eastern Lorain and Medina counties. The rules apply to both urban and non-urban drilling permits.

The Ohio Department of Natural Resources (ODNR) Division of Mineral Resources Management formulated the new conditions in response to an incident in Bainbridge Township (Geauga County) in mid December. Twenty-six households were evacuated in the area after methane gas leaked from an oil and gas well into the structures via domestic water wells.

"While incidents like the one in Geauga County are very rare, given the potential gravity of the outcomes, it is necessary that we act to eliminate any chance of similar occurrences in the future," said John Husted, chief of the Division of Mineral Resources Management.

The new conditions apply to all wells permitted to the "Clinton sandstone" or to a deeper formation. These new conditions stress detection of natural gas in deposits above the permitted oil and gas reservoirs; seal deep sources of natural gas in the formations in which they occur or originate; monitor gas pressure in the space between surface and production casings (annulus); and prohibit the accumulation of unsafe gas pressure in the annulus of a well.

While Ohio Valley Energy responded quickly and appropriately to the situation in Bainbridge Township, ODNR is helping to assure drilling for oil and gas - even in urban areas - is a safe endeavor. The situation in Bainbridge Township was relieved when Ohio Valley Energy, under the supervision of ODNR inspectors, cemented the suspect well to prevent further migration of gas into the local aquifer.

ODNR continues to work with the company and the Bainbridge Fire Department to purge contaminated water wells. Once purged, ODNR geologists will work with Ohio Valley Energy and the Geauga County Health District to test, disinfect and reconnect the private water wells that were affected by the seepage.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now I can continue to post the many, many cases where the exploration for gas and oil has degraded the environment. But it would be useless. You people, PC and the rest, , do not give a shit about the wonderful nation of mountains, plains, and shore that we have inherited. If it ain't got the pictures of dead presidents on it, it is worthless.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Drilling Deep in the Gulf of Mexico
NY Times 2006
The next oil frontier – and the next great challenge for oil explorers – lies below 10,000 feet of water, through five miles of hard rock, thick salt and tightly packed sands

Thanks to advances in offshore technology, and tremendous leaps in supercomputers and three-dimensional imaging, this region’s deepest waters have become the hottest exploration prospects in the nation. According to the most optimistic estimates, there could be 40 billion barrels of undiscovered reserves in the deep water, which starts at about 1,500 feet, enough to satisfy American consumption for more than five years. Since 2001, there have been 12 discoveries in waters 5,000 feet deep, drilling into older rock formations known as the Lower Tertiary.

The geology has been proven, the oil is present. Drilling costs have soared in recent years and can now reach as much as $800,000 a day, or up to $100 million for a single well. BP made the biggest discovery in the Gulf of Mexico. The field, holding one billion barrels of reserves, became known as Thunder Horse. The wider hunt has been on ever since. The easy oil is running out because it has already been found.

I highlighted the obvious for those who can't grasp the obvious.

 

[NYcarbineer]

World Oil Supply Hinges on Unlocking the Subsea Industry
Energy & Capital 2008
Considering that the world's giant oil fields (nine out of the ten largest) have entered into depletion, it's only a matter of time before we start seeing oil prices breaking more records. There is no more easy oil, and the subsea industry is critical to unlocking more oil to meet world supply. One thing is for certain, higher oil prices causing a greater interest in deep water offshore drilling. The U.S. Gulf of Mexico is experiencing a boom.

Once again, hilighting the obvious for the obvious-challenged.

source btw:
Deep Water Oil -- Energy Plan USA

 

[Big Fitz]

The easy oil is running out because it has already been found.

were that were true. No. In fact, it's not all been found. More land's just being put off limits to exploration so it CAN'T be found by oil companies and wreck the scam the econazis and peak oil nuts have carved out for themselves.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Now if we could only find a way to cap the plume of nonsense that spews out of PoliticalChic's profoundly confused space available cranium.