Entry level jobs, education, salary & artificial intelligence. I see a big wall coming up.

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As advances in ai progress it is only a matter of time until what were once good paying low skill jobs become obsolete.
Any job in driving, manufacturing, production line work, general maintenance, basic retail etc..

What are we going to do with our educational system to ensure that my grandson & kids of his age are educated for the jobs of the future & not left behind in the technological leap? Things are advancing so fast that I think we are facing a real jobs crisis in the next 10 to 20 years.
We are still teaching the same basic shit in school with a heavy focus on social nonsense and while this could prepare you or I for a future it won't work for them. Entry level jobs that you or I could grab and create a career out of are vanishing.

We need a SERIOUS revamping of our educational system. An example would be basic math, history, geography, reading & English from k thru 8th. Then a split focus on vocational skills & advanced math for 9th thru 12th.
That is just a basic off the cuff idea and not thought out to any depth but it is someplace to start the discussion.
 
We In blue states we are working on it. The same way we are behind the technologies the rest of the country and the world gets to enjoy....just go to church and hate on us and the immigrants.
 
Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
 
As advances in ai progress it is only a matter of time until what were once good paying low skill jobs become obsolete.
Any job in driving, manufacturing, production line work, general maintenance, basic retail etc..

What are we going to do with our educational system to ensure that my grandson & kids of his age are educated for the jobs of the future & not left behind in the technological leap? Things are advancing so fast that I think we are facing a real jobs crisis in the next 10 to 20 years.
We are still teaching the same basic shit in school with a heavy focus on social nonsense and while this could prepare you or I for a future it won't work for them. Entry level jobs that you or I could grab and create a career out of are vanishing.

We need a SERIOUS revamping of our educational system. An example would be basic math, history, geography, reading & English from k thru 8th. Then a split focus on vocational skills & advanced math for 9th thru 12th.
That is just a basic off the cuff idea and not thought out to any depth but it is someplace to start the discussion.
It really depends on what political party you belong to.

The majority of Republicans say colleges are bad for America (yes, really)

Republicans have this really weird perspective on education in general.

Remember, the same people who believe that science is a faith and magical creation is real while evolution is only some nonsensical theory are the same people who criticize education. How can you be critical of education when you believe Behe is a knowledgeable scientist and an expert on "intelligent design"? Well, you can if you are a Republican.

The future winners will be the children of immigrants who enthusiastically attend school and the children of liberals who enthusiastically attend school.

Losers will be the children of Republicans who think education is bad for America. And there will be millions. Even more than there are now.

Low Education Levels and Unemployment Linked in Appalachia

Appalachia covers 13 Ruby Red states and/or counties. Millions of whites with an increasing infant mortality rate and a decreasing life expectancy. Many white poor in Appalachia don't even have electricity or running water. They are never in the news. Why? Because they all vote Republican. And what is the Republican Party doing for them?

Laughing at them. Making fun of them. Working to make sure they never have healthcare.
 
when Obama was Prez, the libs were bragging about the 2000 new jobs a month,,many were in fast food,,,,great job barry!
He left office with a job surplus of 6.2 million and unemployment at 4.9%.
The reason many were in fast food was because that's all Republicans are qualified for.

What would you hire a Republican to do if they have no education and no skills?

Huh?

Well?

Thought so.
 
Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why does your kind say such stupid sh!t?

Go to a college and learn something before you repeat such nonsense again.

When your kind is called on this BS, you always say you never needed college.

It's like someone from another religion saying that at your church, you drink blood and eat dead flesh. It's symbolic. You don't really do that. But they don't know that. All they know is what they heard.
 
Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why does your kind say such stupid sh!t?

Go to a college and learn something before you repeat such nonsense again.

When your kind is called on this BS, you always say you never needed college.

It's like someone from another religion saying that at your church, you drink blood and eat dead flesh. It's symbolic. You don't really do that. But they don't know that. All they know is what they heard.





Because he's right you fool. Some poor kid go's to college and gets a four year worthless degree and sucks up a load of debt that no job he is qualified for will ever repay back. It is a crime that assholes like you think that college is for everyone. It ain't. Morons, like you, haven't wakened to the fact that jobs in the Trades can be every bit as legit as a white collar job. They incur far less debt to get qualified, and they are generally far more secure in the long run.
 
We In blue states we are working on it. The same way we are behind the technologies the rest of the country and the world gets to enjoy....just go to church and hate on us and the immigrants.
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The conservatives' disdain for education and the educated helps the Republicans' further dumbing down of the American people by undermining the public school system.

While it is true that turning out ever increasingly ignorant generations from our public schools also increases the number of conservatives, these uneducated masses are destroying the United States' ability to produce the knowledgeable adults necessary to compete on a world wide scale.

Also, the decades of major tech companies sending the manufacturing of their products to foreign nations to exploit the cheap labor gives these foreign governments the technical data they need to cut our throats in the world market.

It's naïve to believe that much of China's rapid advancement in weaponry isn't based on information gleaned from the decades they've manufactured electronics for U.S. companies.

Additionally, as U.S. schools fall further and further behind those in other developed nations, the conservatives' shouting and waving their big "We're Number One" foam fingers does not alter the fact that U.S. schools need much greater funding. Funding needed to regain all that has been lost at the hands of the GOP's need to repeatedly cut taxes for the fat cats. It is only an extremely small percentage of the middle class that truly benefit from any of the so-called "trickle down" the Republicans' claim these tax cuts create.

But this small percentage of Americans is touted by conservatives and the GOP as the tremendous success of Reaganomics. But, if one does some research, it becomes apparent the top 400 billionaires have increased their wealth by 29 times since Reagan first sold his snake oil to the suckers. While the income for the bottom 90% has stalled or diminished. And the Dow at 25000 is helping an equally small percentage of middle class investors. The lion's share goes to the fat cats.

The GOP and the conservatives are careful to deny these facts, and hide them whenever possible. Just watch their responses to this post. They will deny what I have written, but the cannot produce any reliable facts to refute it. They just have their conservative propaganda and Republican talking points to cite.

As always, thoughtful comments are welcome. But thus far, the conservatives' responses to this thread have again proven, all we can expect is their typical nonsense, alternate facts, and off-topic silliness (e.g. written posts, ratings, memes, etc.). The message board designers included "funny" in their ratings system as an additional method conservatives can use to deny facts. The “funny” rating enables the conservatives to remain safely cloistered in their alternate reality.

As people discovered long ago, any reply to a conservative's foolishness is a waste of time.

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We In blue states we are working on it. The same way we are behind the technologies the rest of the country and the world gets to enjoy....just go to church and hate on us and the immigrants.
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The conservatives' disdain for education and the educated helps the Republicans' further dumbing down of the American people by undermining the public school system.

While it is true that turning out ever increasingly ignorant generations from our public schools also increases the number of conservatives, these uneducated masses are destroying the United States' ability to produce the knowledgeable adults necessary to compete on a world wide scale.

Also, the decades of major tech companies sending the manufacturing of their products to foreign nations to exploit the cheap labor gives these foreign governments the technical data they need to cut our throats in the world market.

It's naïve to believe that much of China's rapid advancement in weaponry isn't based on information gleaned from the decades they've manufactured electronics for U.S. companies.

Additionally, as U.S. schools fall further and further behind those in other developed nations, the conservatives' shouting and waving their big "We're Number One" foam fingers does not alter the fact that U.S. schools need much greater funding. Funding needed to regain all that has been lost at the hands of the GOP's need to repeatedly cut taxes for the fat cats. It is only an extremely small percentage of the middle class that truly benefit from any of the so-called "trickle down" the Republicans' claim these tax cuts create.

But this small percentage of Americans is touted by conservatives and the GOP as the tremendous success of Reaganomics. But, if one does some research, it becomes apparent the top 400 billionaires have increased their wealth by 29 times since Reagan first sold his snake oil to the suckers. While the income for the bottom 90% has stalled or diminished. And the Dow at 25000 is helping an equally small percentage of middle class investors. The lion's share goes to the fat cats.

The GOP and the conservatives are careful to deny these facts, and hide them whenever possible. Just watch their responses to this post. They will deny what I have written, but the cannot produce any reliable facts to refute it. They just have their conservative propaganda and Republican talking points to cite.

As always, thoughtful comments are welcome. But thus far, the conservatives' responses to this thread have again proven, all we can expect is their typical nonsense, alternate facts, and off-topic silliness (e.g. written posts, ratings, memes, etc.). The message board designers included "funny" in their ratings system as an additional method conservatives can use to deny facts. The “funny” rating enables the conservatives to remain safely cloistered in their alternate reality.

As people discovered long ago, any reply to a conservative's foolishness is a waste of time.

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What an absurd assertion. They don't have a disdain for education, they have a disdain for wasted money attaining an "education" who's job prospects won't pay for the loans taken to pay for it.
 
We In blue states we are working on it. The same way we are behind the technologies the rest of the country and the world gets to enjoy....just go to church and hate on us and the immigrants.

How are you working on it? you now have over 5 million poor broke ass illegals in your state..


Btw


The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S. | The Best Schools



3Academic Magnet High School
(North Charleston, South Carolina)

academic-magnet-high-school-SC.jpg


Academic Magnet High School ranks #3 on The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S.!
Academic Magnet High School serves academically-gifted and motivated students. The high school encourages students to obtain a sense of global responsibility, to be contributing members of the community, and to cultivate and uphold respect for cultural diversity.

The high school provides all the courses at the Honors or Advanced Placement level. Student have opportunities for publication in professional and academic journals.

Alongside the stern academic requirements, students must also complete 90 hours of community service, take and pass at least four Advanced Placement courses while attending high school, complete a summer reading list, and complete a senior thesis (a year-long independent research project).

Academic Magnet High School boasts a large variety of sports teams and over 50 student clubs including chess, debate, robotics and physics clubs.

The high school selects students through rigorous criteria, including a written essay, middle school grades, test scores and teacher recommendations.






And look the first California high school on the list is #34 :(




34Lowell High School
(San Francisco, California)

lowell-high-school-CA.jpg


Lowell High School ranks #34 on The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S.!
Lowell High School’s rigorous curriculum features Honors-level and Advanced Placement courses, including chemistry, calculus and economics, as well as a variety of foreign languages. Ninety-four percent of the students take AP exams.

Beyond classes, extracurricular offerings include more than 80 teams, organizations and student-interest clubs. The school’s speech and debate team is among the oldest in the nation.

Economically disadvantaged students make up 43 percent of the student body.

The U.S. Department of Education recognized Lowell High School as a Blue Ribbon School.

Admissions requirements include standardized test scores, a writing sample, grade point average and extracurricular activities.
 
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Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why, is automation going to produce humanities also?
 
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Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why does your kind say such stupid sh!t?

Go to a college and learn something before you repeat such nonsense again.

When your kind is called on this BS, you always say you never needed college.

It's like someone from another religion saying that at your church, you drink blood and eat dead flesh. It's symbolic. You don't really do that. But they don't know that. All they know is what they heard.





Because he's right you fool. Some poor kid go's to college and gets a four year worthless degree and sucks up a load of debt that no job he is qualified for will ever repay back. It is a crime that assholes like you think that college is for everyone. It ain't. Morons, like you, haven't wakened to the fact that jobs in the Trades can be every bit as legit as a white collar job. They incur far less debt to get qualified, and they are generally far more secure in the long run.
You put words in my mouth and call me a moron? Dunce!

Who said college is for everyone? College and Job Training and job training for those who lost their jobs to automation have always been central to jobs policies for the Democrats.

It's a stupid sh!t like you who can't spend a minute to find out what a political party's policies are, ya dumb a$$.

And you want to know a worthless degree? It's when some right winger goes to one of those Tier Four so called Christian colleges and gets a BS in Bible Study. What can you do with that? And that's where that came from. You just assume that because right wingers do it, everyone does.
 
Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why is automation going to produce humanities also?
It's just the opinion of some idiot who never went to college. I've said it before, these right wingers think college is where liberals go to drink and have sex. Yea, try having sex and partying when you are taking Differential Linear Equations for your engineering degree.
 
Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why does your kind say such stupid sh!t?

Go to a college and learn something before you repeat such nonsense again.

When your kind is called on this BS, you always say you never needed college.

It's like someone from another religion saying that at your church, you drink blood and eat dead flesh. It's symbolic. You don't really do that. But they don't know that. All they know is what they heard.





Because he's right you fool. Some poor kid go's to college and gets a four year worthless degree and sucks up a load of debt that no job he is qualified for will ever repay back. It is a crime that assholes like you think that college is for everyone. It ain't. Morons, like you, haven't wakened to the fact that jobs in the Trades can be every bit as legit as a white collar job. They incur far less debt to get qualified, and they are generally far more secure in the long run.
You put words in my mouth and call me a moron? Dunce!

Who said college is for everyone? College and Job Training and job training for those who lost their jobs to automation have always been central to jobs policies for the Democrats.

It's a stupid sh!t like you who can't spend a minute to find out what a political party's policies are, ya dumb a$$.

And you want to know a worthless degree? It's when some right winger goes to one of those Tier Four so called Christian colleges and gets a BS in Bible Study. What can you do with that? And that's where that came from. You just assume that because right wingers do it, everyone does.


Who said college is for everyone? College and Job Training and job training for those who lost their jobs to automation have always been central to jobs policies for the Democrats.


Doing what how does one train people for skilled manufacturing jobs in Illinois and Michigan if you idiots ran them all away to the red States with high taxes and corrupt uninons ?



Lol

You stupid
 
We In blue states we are working on it. The same way we are behind the technologies the rest of the country and the world gets to enjoy....just go to church and hate on us and the immigrants.

How are you working on it? you now have over 5 million poor broke ass illegals in your state..


Btw


The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S. | The Best Schools



3Academic Magnet High School
(North Charleston, South Carolina)

academic-magnet-high-school-SC.jpg


Academic Magnet High School ranks #3 on The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S.!
Academic Magnet High School serves academically-gifted and motivated students. The high school encourages students to obtain a sense of global responsibility, to be contributing members of the community, and to cultivate and uphold respect for cultural diversity.

The high school provides all the courses at the Honors or Advanced Placement level. Student have opportunities for publication in professional and academic journals.

Alongside the stern academic requirements, students must also complete 90 hours of community service, take and pass at least four Advanced Placement courses while attending high school, complete a summer reading list, and complete a senior thesis (a year-long independent research project).

Academic Magnet High School boasts a large variety of sports teams and over 50 student clubs including chess, debate, robotics and physics clubs.

The high school selects students through rigorous criteria, including a written essay, middle school grades, test scores and teacher recommendations.






And look the first California high school on the list is #34 :(




34Lowell High School
(San Francisco, California)

lowell-high-school-CA.jpg


Lowell High School ranks #34 on The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S.!
Lowell High School’s rigorous curriculum features Honors-level and Advanced Placement courses, including chemistry, calculus and economics, as well as a variety of foreign languages. Ninety-four percent of the students take AP exams.

Beyond classes, extracurricular offerings include more than 80 teams, organizations and student-interest clubs. The school’s speech and debate team is among the oldest in the nation.

Economically disadvantaged students make up 43 percent of the student body.

The U.S. Department of Education recognized Lowell High School as a Blue Ribbon School.

Admissions requirements include standardized test scores, a writing sample, grade point average and extracurricular activities.
At least we know where liberals in South Carolina go to school.
 
Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why is automation going to produce humanities also?
It's just the opinion of some idiot who never went to college. I've said it before, these right wingers think college is where liberals go to drink and have sex. Yea, try having sex and partying when you are taking Differential Linear Equations for your engineering degree.
Yes the retarded engineer who we always had to change the designs in the field to make it work


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Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why is automation going to produce humanities also?
It's just the opinion of some idiot who never went to college. I've said it before, these right wingers think college is where liberals go to drink and have sex. Yea, try having sex and partying when you are taking Differential Linear Equations for your engineering degree.
Yes the retarded engineer who we always had to change the designs in the field to make it work


.
That is not unusual.
 
We In blue states we are working on it. The same way we are behind the technologies the rest of the country and the world gets to enjoy....just go to church and hate on us and the immigrants.

How are you working on it? you now have over 5 million poor broke ass illegals in your state..


Btw


The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S. | The Best Schools



3Academic Magnet High School
(North Charleston, South Carolina)

academic-magnet-high-school-SC.jpg


Academic Magnet High School ranks #3 on The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S.!
Academic Magnet High School serves academically-gifted and motivated students. The high school encourages students to obtain a sense of global responsibility, to be contributing members of the community, and to cultivate and uphold respect for cultural diversity.

The high school provides all the courses at the Honors or Advanced Placement level. Student have opportunities for publication in professional and academic journals.

Alongside the stern academic requirements, students must also complete 90 hours of community service, take and pass at least four Advanced Placement courses while attending high school, complete a summer reading list, and complete a senior thesis (a year-long independent research project).

Academic Magnet High School boasts a large variety of sports teams and over 50 student clubs including chess, debate, robotics and physics clubs.

The high school selects students through rigorous criteria, including a written essay, middle school grades, test scores and teacher recommendations.






And look the first California high school on the list is #34 :(




34Lowell High School
(San Francisco, California)

lowell-high-school-CA.jpg


Lowell High School ranks #34 on The 100 Best Public High Schools in the U.S.!
Lowell High School’s rigorous curriculum features Honors-level and Advanced Placement courses, including chemistry, calculus and economics, as well as a variety of foreign languages. Ninety-four percent of the students take AP exams.

Beyond classes, extracurricular offerings include more than 80 teams, organizations and student-interest clubs. The school’s speech and debate team is among the oldest in the nation.

Economically disadvantaged students make up 43 percent of the student body.

The U.S. Department of Education recognized Lowell High School as a Blue Ribbon School.

Admissions requirements include standardized test scores, a writing sample, grade point average and extracurricular activities.
At least we know where liberals in South Carolina go to school.


Yeah they go to USC to drink beer , smoke crack , watch their football team suck and get liberal arts degrees in basket weaving
 
Four year degrees in something ridiculous like liberal arts will have to go away. In its place we will need internships to begin replacing four years of partying and coming out with no real experience.
Why is automation going to produce humanities also?
It's just the opinion of some idiot who never went to college. I've said it before, these right wingers think college is where liberals go to drink and have sex. Yea, try having sex and partying when you are taking Differential Linear Equations for your engineering degree.
Yes the retarded engineer who we always had to change the designs in the field to make it work


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That is not unusual.


Tell that to rderp the retired engineer, he keeps saying I am lying about it.
 

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