Elizabeth Warren? Seriously?

[Pogo]

None of that establishes the negative. Not a shred.

But the burden of proof falls on the lonely nutty housewife who imagined Cherokee ancestors.

Nope, it doesn't.
She's not the one who posited an absolute. You are.

How's that noble Quest For the Negative coming? Got the first dozen done yet?

Not my job to prove Lizzy Cheekbones heritage. All the evidence shows she's a liar and a nut

Yeah it is. You took it on when you posted "she lied".

--- which you just did again. Expecting different results are we?

Prove she's not part Mahatma Gandhi!

Your claim, your job.

 

[Pogo]

None of that establishes the negative. Not a shred.

But the burden of proof falls on the lonely nutty housewife who imagined Cherokee ancestors.

Nope, it doesn't.
She's not the one who posited an absolute. You are.

How's that noble Quest For the Negative coming? Got the first dozen done yet?

Not my job to prove Lizzy Cheekbones heritage. All the evidence shows she's a liar and a nut

Yeah it is. You took it on when you posted "she lied".

--- which you just did again. Expecting different results are we?

She lied, she's 0% Cherokee

She lied

Let's see that's... two more.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

But the burden of proof falls on the lonely nutty housewife who imagined Cherokee ancestors.

Nope, it doesn't.
She's not the one who posited an absolute. You are.

How's that noble Quest For the Negative coming? Got the first dozen done yet?

Not my job to prove Lizzy Cheekbones heritage. All the evidence shows she's a liar and a nut

Yeah it is. You took it on when you posted "she lied".

--- which you just did again. Expecting different results are we?

Prove she's not part Mahatma Gandhi!

Your claim, your job.

But it's not Lizzy's job to prove she's Cherokee?????

 

[Pogo]

Nope, it doesn't.
She's not the one who posited an absolute. You are.

How's that noble Quest For the Negative coming? Got the first dozen done yet?

Not my job to prove Lizzy Cheekbones heritage. All the evidence shows she's a liar and a nut

Yeah it is. You took it on when you posted "she lied".

--- which you just did again. Expecting different results are we?

Prove she's not part Mahatma Gandhi!

Your claim, your job.

But it's not Lizzy's job to prove she's Cherokee?????

To who?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Not my job to prove Lizzy Cheekbones heritage. All the evidence shows she's a liar and a nut

Yeah it is. You took it on when you posted "she lied".

--- which you just did again. Expecting different results are we?

Prove she's not part Mahatma Gandhi!

Your claim, your job.

But it's not Lizzy's job to prove she's Cherokee?????

To who?

She said she was part Cherokee

 

[Pogo]

Yeah it is. You took it on when you posted "she lied".

--- which you just did again. Expecting different results are we?

Prove she's not part Mahatma Gandhi!

Your claim, your job.

But it's not Lizzy's job to prove she's Cherokee?????

To who?

She said she was part Cherokee

To you?


You told her she lied then, right?
What'd you say then?

 

[BullKurtz]

6,665 hits!

 

[hipeter924]

I will donate to her campaign if she runs, just to piss the partisan hacks off. She is a 'communist', then not a 'communist', then a 'socialist'. Republicans can't make their mind up. Is Obama a Nazi, a Communist, a Socialist, or a fascist now?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Prove she's not part Mahatma Gandhi!

Your claim, your job.

But it's not Lizzy's job to prove she's Cherokee?????

To who?

She said she was part Cherokee

To you?


You told her she lied then, right?
What'd you say then?

She told the American people she was part Cherokee; she lied. Why is she lying about that?

In any event, why are you so defensive?! Progressives are pathological lairs so you should revel in the fact that Lizzy fucked over a minority group to further herself. Progressives have been doing that for generations!

Revel in Warrens insanity and lies, she's a perfect Progressive

 

[Pogo]

Your claim, your job.

But it's not Lizzy's job to prove she's Cherokee?????

To who?

She said she was part Cherokee

To you?


You told her she lied then, right?
What'd you say then?

She told the American people she was part Cherokee; she lied. Why is she lying about that?

In any event, why are you so defensive?! Progressives are pathological lairs so you should revel in the fact that Lizzy fucked over a minority group to further herself. Progressives have been doing that for generations!

Revel in Warrens insanity and lies, she's a perfect Progressive

Because I shoot down bullshit. And that's what you have here.

I don't know what the fuck "Progressives" are outside of car insurance. But I do know what horseshit logic is.

 

[bripat9643]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. The Warrens in Cherokee territory were white, therefore some other as yet unidentified relatives were Cherokee

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

You cited TWO PEOPLE, Frank. You know how many ancestors we all have??

2 parents...
4 grandparents... (that's six now, 2+4)
8 great-grandparents (which means you missed six others) (we're up to a total of 14 at this point)
16 great-great grandparents... (30)
32 great-great-great grandparents... (62 people here)
64 great-great-great-great grandparents.. (126)
128 great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (254)
256 great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (510)
512 great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (1012)
1024 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (2036)
2048 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (4084)
4096 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (8180)
8192 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (16,372)
16,384 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents...

We're up to nearly thirty-three thousand people here Frank. And every last one of them is an ancestor.
You tracked down two. And even then you have only census records of racial reports -- from a time when answering anything other than "white" made you a second-class citizen.
Better get busy on the next 32,754 census records. Nomsayin'?

I don't envy the task. But then I don't make ridiculous assertions I can't back up.

So, you and Lizzy Cheekbones need to get right on it and show us which of them were Cherokee.

Apparently the Great grandparents who lived in Cherokee territory were White.

So, again, which of her ancestors were Cherokee.

You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.

You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.

To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!

Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.

Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.

Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.

Whooooosh.

The only thing we have to eliminate is Lizzie's credibility if she can't support her claim that she's a Cherokee Indian.

 

[squeeze berry]

Warren.......Squaw....Squaw.....Squaw
Hillary.......Benghazi....Benghazi....Benghazi

If this is the best the GOP can bring....2016 will be a cakewalk

I believe she would be a great candidate

please nominate her

 

[Pogo]

You cited TWO PEOPLE, Frank. You know how many ancestors we all have??

2 parents...
4 grandparents... (that's six now, 2+4)
8 great-grandparents (which means you missed six others) (we're up to a total of 14 at this point)
16 great-great grandparents... (30)
32 great-great-great grandparents... (62 people here)
64 great-great-great-great grandparents.. (126)
128 great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (254)
256 great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (510)
512 great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (1012)
1024 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (2036)
2048 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (4084)
4096 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (8180)
8192 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents... (16,372)
16,384 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents...

We're up to nearly thirty-three thousand people here Frank. And every last one of them is an ancestor.
You tracked down two. And even then you have only census records of racial reports -- from a time when answering anything other than "white" made you a second-class citizen.
Better get busy on the next 32,754 census records. Nomsayin'?

I don't envy the task. But then I don't make ridiculous assertions I can't back up.

So, you and Lizzy Cheekbones need to get right on it and show us which of them were Cherokee.

Apparently the Great grandparents who lived in Cherokee territory were White.

So, again, which of her ancestors were Cherokee.

You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.

You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.

To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!

Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.

Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.

Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.

Whooooosh.

The only thing we have to eliminate is Lizzie's credibility if she can't support her claim that she's a Cherokee Indian.

You can't prove the negative, so that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Antares]

Lizzy is related to Elvis! You can't prove she isn't!!!

That's true. I can't.
But I didn't go on a message board and claim I could. That's why I'm up here and you're down there.

...and yet Princess Lizzy shouted it to the world.......but she isn't required to prove it in your bizzaro wold

I am seriously embarrassed for you pogo.

 

[Pogo]

Lizzy is related to Elvis! You can't prove she isn't!!!

That's true. I can't.
But I didn't go on a message board and claim I could. That's why I'm up here and you're down there.

...and yet Princess Lizzy shouted it to the world.......but she isn't required to prove it in your bizzaro wold

I am seriously embarrassed for you pogo.

When you make a claim, you substantiate it to the entity to whom you made the claim. Your link to where she "shouted it to the world" is where?

I'm Black Irish. I don't have to "prove" that, unless I'm applying for citizenship in the Black Irish Nation. Any more than I have to "prove" it when I declare "I'm hungry".


YOU on the other hand went with an absolute -- "she lied". Which puts you in the position of having to prove the negative.
Nobody else put you in that hole.

Dumbass.

 

[bripat9643]

So, you and Lizzy Cheekbones need to get right on it and show us which of them were Cherokee.

Apparently the Great grandparents who lived in Cherokee territory were White.

So, again, which of her ancestors were Cherokee.

You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.

You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.

To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!

Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.

Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.

Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.

Whooooosh.

The only thing we have to eliminate is Lizzie's credibility if she can't support her claim that she's a Cherokee Indian.

You can't prove the negative, so that ain't gonna happen.

I'm not required to prove that bigfoot doesn't exist, and likewise I'm not required to prove that Fauxcahontas has no Cherokee blood in her. She's required to prove that she does, and she has been emphatic on refusing to do so.

You obviously don't understand how science and logic work.

 

[bripat9643]

Lizzy is related to Elvis! You can't prove she isn't!!!

That's true. I can't.
But I didn't go on a message board and claim I could. That's why I'm up here and you're down there.

...and yet Princess Lizzy shouted it to the world.......but she isn't required to prove it in your bizzaro wold

I am seriously embarrassed for you pogo.

When you make a claim, you substantiate it to the entity to whom you made the claim. Your link to where she "shouted it to the world" is where?

I'm Black Irish. I don't have to "prove" that, unless I'm applying for citizenship in the Black Irish Nation. Any more than I have to "prove" it when I declare "I'm hungry".


YOU on the other hand went with an absolute -- "she lied". Which puts you in the position of having to prove the negative.
Nobody else put you in that hole.

Dumbass.

Unfortunately she noted on various forms that she signed when she took the job at Harvard that she was Cherokee Indian. She actually broke the law if that claim was false.

 

[Pogo]

Lizzy is related to Elvis! You can't prove she isn't!!!

That's true. I can't.
But I didn't go on a message board and claim I could. That's why I'm up here and you're down there.

...and yet Princess Lizzy shouted it to the world.......but she isn't required to prove it in your bizzaro wold

I am seriously embarrassed for you pogo.

When you make a claim, you substantiate it to the entity to whom you made the claim. Your link to where she "shouted it to the world" is where?

I'm Black Irish. I don't have to "prove" that, unless I'm applying for citizenship in the Black Irish Nation. Any more than I have to "prove" it when I declare "I'm hungry".


YOU on the other hand went with an absolute -- "she lied". Which puts you in the position of having to prove the negative.
Nobody else put you in that hole.

Dumbass.

Unfortunately she noted on various forms that she signed when she took the job at Harvard that she was Cherokee Indian. She actually broke the law if that claim was false.

Bullshit, she did not, and bullshit it would not be.

 

[Pogo]

You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.

You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.

To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!

Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.

Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.

Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.

Whooooosh.

The only thing we have to eliminate is Lizzie's credibility if she can't support her claim that she's a Cherokee Indian.

You can't prove the negative, so that ain't gonna happen.

I'm not required to prove that bigfoot doesn't exist, and likewise I'm not required to prove that Fauxcahontas has no Cherokee blood in her. She's required to prove that she does, and she has been emphatic on refusing to do so.

You obviously don't understand how science and logic work.

If you declare that "Bigfoot doesn't exist", then yes you are required to prove it -- if you don't you have no claim. Because you just stated a negative: "doesn't exist".

That is exactly the morass you step into when you declare "she lied".

Compare these two statements:

1. "Bigfoot doesn't exist"
2. "Elizabeth Warren's Native American ancestry doesn't exist"

What's the same about both of them? Just take a wild guess.

Logic 101, jellyface.

 

[bripat9643]

Lizzy is related to Elvis! You can't prove she isn't!!!

That's true. I can't.
But I didn't go on a message board and claim I could. That's why I'm up here and you're down there.

...and yet Princess Lizzy shouted it to the world.......but she isn't required to prove it in your bizzaro wold

I am seriously embarrassed for you pogo.

When you make a claim, you substantiate it to the entity to whom you made the claim. Your link to where she "shouted it to the world" is where?

I'm Black Irish. I don't have to "prove" that, unless I'm applying for citizenship in the Black Irish Nation. Any more than I have to "prove" it when I declare "I'm hungry".


YOU on the other hand went with an absolute -- "she lied". Which puts you in the position of having to prove the negative.
Nobody else put you in that hole.

Dumbass.

Unfortunately she noted on various forms that she signed when she took the job at Harvard that she was Cherokee Indian. She actually broke the law if that claim was false.

Bullshit, she did not, and bullshit it would not be.

Yes she did.

Did Elizabeth Warren check the Native American box when she lsquo applied rsquo to Harvard and Penn - The Washington Post

"The Boston Herald reported in April that Warren had listed herself as a minority in the American Association of Law Schools directory and that Harvard Law School had touted her supposed lineage when the program faced doubts about faculty diversity."​