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Being that you are not even a westerner by birth and do not understand our commitments to France and Britain,, I can see why you would think like that..Yet, it is not true......Our allies are more determined by who owes us the most..You don't want your biggest debtor to be defeated, then you'd never see the payoff...You really are tool, and a long winded sardonic biotch that thinks her propaganda will merit her more than a few followers with no mind, and only hate for a party association..Patton assaulted a soldier in a field hospital and was temporarily taken off command...He lost his position and others were deemed more suitable and in control of their emotions....Don't think that you are not watched when in command..Since you have zero experience in military code of conduct, I don't doubt you would or could understand how all those people leaped over Patton for higher positions....Strange as it is, the remarkable ability as a general isn't what pushes one to the top in the armed forces. Sometimes, it becomes secondary to.....other things. Why would George Patton, who believed himself the reincarnation of a Roman legionnaire, not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history?
4. "June 6, 1944 General Omar Bradley (1893-1981) led the First Army of the United States in the famous D-Day landing on the beaches of Normandy. Interestingly, Bradley was the understudy of another man, General George S. Patton Jr. (1885-1945). How did Bradley overtake his mentor? What caused the Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1979) to give the job to Bradley when Patton had helped lead the Allies to victory in Sicily only a short time before? During the 1943 invasion, Bradley had served under Patton, now Bradley was Patton's commanding officer.
General Patton was an aggressive general; his tactics were unorthodox, but successful. Why would he not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history? Why would he be used as a decoy rather than be on the front lines of Normandy? Was this because of the rocky relationship he had with the Allied Commander, General Eisenhower? How did Patton view Eisenhower and how did Eisenhower view Patton?" Military History Online
What sort of machinations were behind the advancement of Eisenhower over Patton?
Guess who hated Patton, and vice versa...Hint: he slaughtered millions of his own citizens.
Good guess!
And Franklin Roosevelt bowed to the every desire and wish of Joseph Stalin.
Eisenhower was agreeable.....Patton very much the opposite.
Patton slapped a soldier for crying.
Eisenhower followed Stalin's orders....and cost 100 thousand American lives.
....Stalin's orders demanding unconditional surrender of Germany.
To get an idea of the cost of the extended war...."....over one hundred thirty-five thousand American GIs died – a startling figure today – between D day[june 6, 1944] and V-E day,[May 8, 1945]...."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence
Get that?
135,000 brave American boys whose lives were offered up as a gift to Stalin....to make certain that communism survived.
Based on the ratio of deaths to wounded, that would suggest almost an additional 200,000 wounded, just between Normandy and Germany's surrender.
Totally attributable to 'unconditional surrender.'
Eisenhower followed Stalin's orders....and cost 100 thousand American lives.
Eisenhower was not under Stalin's command...If you want to make the claim, prove it with the written order...
Being that you are not even a westerner by birth and do not understand our commitments to France and Britain,, I can see why you would think like that..Yet, it is not true......Our allies are more determined by who owes us the most..You don't want your biggest debtor to be defeated, then you'd never see the payoff...You really are tool, and a long winded sardonic biotch that thinks her propaganda will merit her more than a few followers with no mind, and only hate for a party association..Patton assaulted a soldier in a field hospital and was temporarily taken off command...He lost his position and others were deemed more suitable and in control of their emotions....Don't think that you are not watched when in command..Since you have zero experience in military code of conduct, I don't doubt you would or could understand how all those people leaped over Patton for higher positions....Strange as it is, the remarkable ability as a general isn't what pushes one to the top in the armed forces. Sometimes, it becomes secondary to.....other things. Why would George Patton, who believed himself the reincarnation of a Roman legionnaire, not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history?
4. "June 6, 1944 General Omar Bradley (1893-1981) led the First Army of the United States in the famous D-Day landing on the beaches of Normandy. Interestingly, Bradley was the understudy of another man, General George S. Patton Jr. (1885-1945). How did Bradley overtake his mentor? What caused the Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1979) to give the job to Bradley when Patton had helped lead the Allies to victory in Sicily only a short time before? During the 1943 invasion, Bradley had served under Patton, now Bradley was Patton's commanding officer.
General Patton was an aggressive general; his tactics were unorthodox, but successful. Why would he not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history? Why would he be used as a decoy rather than be on the front lines of Normandy? Was this because of the rocky relationship he had with the Allied Commander, General Eisenhower? How did Patton view Eisenhower and how did Eisenhower view Patton?" Military History Online
What sort of machinations were behind the advancement of Eisenhower over Patton?
Guess who hated Patton, and vice versa...Hint: he slaughtered millions of his own citizens.
Good guess!
And Franklin Roosevelt bowed to the every desire and wish of Joseph Stalin.
Eisenhower was agreeable.....Patton very much the opposite.
Patton slapped a soldier for crying.
Eisenhower followed Stalin's orders....and cost 100 thousand American lives.
....Stalin's orders demanding unconditional surrender of Germany.
To get an idea of the cost of the extended war...."....over one hundred thirty-five thousand American GIs died – a startling figure today – between D day[june 6, 1944] and V-E day,[May 8, 1945]...."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence
Get that?
135,000 brave American boys whose lives were offered up as a gift to Stalin....to make certain that communism survived.
Based on the ratio of deaths to wounded, that would suggest almost an additional 200,000 wounded, just between Normandy and Germany's surrender.
Totally attributable to 'unconditional surrender.'
It must be sad to have a narcissist personality disorder..I feel for you...Not.....
Being that you are not even a westerner by birth and do not understand our commitments to France and Britain,, I can see why you would think like that..Yet, it is not true......Our allies are more determined by who owes us the most..You don't want your biggest debtor to be defeated, then you'd never see the payoff...You really are tool, and a long winded sardonic biotch that thinks her propaganda will merit her more than a few followers with no mind, and only hate for a party association..Patton assaulted a soldier in a field hospital and was temporarily taken off command...He lost his position and others were deemed more suitable and in control of their emotions....Don't think that you are not watched when in command..Since you have zero experience in military code of conduct, I don't doubt you would or could understand how all those people leaped over Patton for higher positions....Strange as it is, the remarkable ability as a general isn't what pushes one to the top in the armed forces. Sometimes, it becomes secondary to.....other things. Why would George Patton, who believed himself the reincarnation of a Roman legionnaire, not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history?
4. "June 6, 1944 General Omar Bradley (1893-1981) led the First Army of the United States in the famous D-Day landing on the beaches of Normandy. Interestingly, Bradley was the understudy of another man, General George S. Patton Jr. (1885-1945). How did Bradley overtake his mentor? What caused the Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1979) to give the job to Bradley when Patton had helped lead the Allies to victory in Sicily only a short time before? During the 1943 invasion, Bradley had served under Patton, now Bradley was Patton's commanding officer.
General Patton was an aggressive general; his tactics were unorthodox, but successful. Why would he not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history? Why would he be used as a decoy rather than be on the front lines of Normandy? Was this because of the rocky relationship he had with the Allied Commander, General Eisenhower? How did Patton view Eisenhower and how did Eisenhower view Patton?" Military History Online
What sort of machinations were behind the advancement of Eisenhower over Patton?
Guess who hated Patton, and vice versa...Hint: he slaughtered millions of his own citizens.
Good guess!
And Franklin Roosevelt bowed to the every desire and wish of Joseph Stalin.
Eisenhower was agreeable.....Patton very much the opposite.
Patton slapped a soldier for crying.
Eisenhower followed Stalin's orders....and cost 100 thousand American lives.
....Stalin's orders demanding unconditional surrender of Germany.
To get an idea of the cost of the extended war...."....over one hundred thirty-five thousand American GIs died – a startling figure today – between D day[june 6, 1944] and V-E day,[May 8, 1945]...."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence
Get that?
135,000 brave American boys whose lives were offered up as a gift to Stalin....to make certain that communism survived.
Based on the ratio of deaths to wounded, that would suggest almost an additional 200,000 wounded, just between Normandy and Germany's surrender.
Totally attributable to 'unconditional surrender.'
It must be sad to have a narcissist personality disorder..I feel for you...Not.....
Would you like to apologize to those that lost their life to the Nazi's before the war even started? When Hitler's subs were attacking our merchant, Navy and cruise-liners?
Why do you apologize so much for Hitler?? I am guessing, you wanted the US to support Hitler and fight againt the USSR is what it looks like to me....Seige heil mine frootloop....
WTF Butthead...that has to be the longest post your limited mind has ever composed on this forum. What gives?Being that you are not even a westerner by birth and do not understand our commitments to France and Britain,, I can see why you would think like that..Yet, it is not true......Our allies are more determined by who owes us the most..You don't want your biggest debtor to be defeated, then you'd never see the payoff...You really are tool, and a long winded sardonic biotch that thinks her propaganda will merit her more than a few followers with no mind, and only hate for a party association..Patton assaulted a soldier in a field hospital and was temporarily taken off command...He lost his position and others were deemed more suitable and in control of their emotions....Don't think that you are not watched when in command..Since you have zero experience in military code of conduct, I don't doubt you would or could understand how all those people leaped over Patton for higher positions....Strange as it is, the remarkable ability as a general isn't what pushes one to the top in the armed forces. Sometimes, it becomes secondary to.....other things. Why would George Patton, who believed himself the reincarnation of a Roman legionnaire, not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history?
4. "June 6, 1944 General Omar Bradley (1893-1981) led the First Army of the United States in the famous D-Day landing on the beaches of Normandy. Interestingly, Bradley was the understudy of another man, General George S. Patton Jr. (1885-1945). How did Bradley overtake his mentor? What caused the Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1979) to give the job to Bradley when Patton had helped lead the Allies to victory in Sicily only a short time before? During the 1943 invasion, Bradley had served under Patton, now Bradley was Patton's commanding officer.
General Patton was an aggressive general; his tactics were unorthodox, but successful. Why would he not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history? Why would he be used as a decoy rather than be on the front lines of Normandy? Was this because of the rocky relationship he had with the Allied Commander, General Eisenhower? How did Patton view Eisenhower and how did Eisenhower view Patton?" Military History Online
What sort of machinations were behind the advancement of Eisenhower over Patton?
Guess who hated Patton, and vice versa...Hint: he slaughtered millions of his own citizens.
Good guess!
And Franklin Roosevelt bowed to the every desire and wish of Joseph Stalin.
Eisenhower was agreeable.....Patton very much the opposite.
Patton slapped a soldier for crying.
Eisenhower followed Stalin's orders....and cost 100 thousand American lives.
....Stalin's orders demanding unconditional surrender of Germany.
To get an idea of the cost of the extended war...."....over one hundred thirty-five thousand American GIs died – a startling figure today – between D day[june 6, 1944] and V-E day,[May 8, 1945]...."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence
Get that?
135,000 brave American boys whose lives were offered up as a gift to Stalin....to make certain that communism survived.
Based on the ratio of deaths to wounded, that would suggest almost an additional 200,000 wounded, just between Normandy and Germany's surrender.
Totally attributable to 'unconditional surrender.'
It must be sad to have a narcissist personality disorder..I feel for you...Not.....
Would you like to apologize to those that lost their life to the Nazi's before the war even started? When Hitler's subs were attacking our merchant, Navy and cruise-liners?
Why do you apologize so much for Hitler?? I am guessing, you wanted the US to support Hitler and fight againt the USSR is what it looks like to me....Seige heil mine frootloop....
Apparently Patton was prone to some sort of behavior unbecoming an officer and for this Ike decided Patton's behavior should be monitored. But it was more than that. Patton seemed to have a history of impulsiveness and It would be interesting to see if Patton's behavior in the soldier-slapping incidents was a similar form of behavior as the soldier he slapped was exhibiting.
In any case If Patton lost his cool and sent thousands of Americans to a needless death (old blood and guts) today both Patton and Ike would not be such heroic figures. We should be grateful Ike kept his cool and utilized Patton in Patton's area of expertise and allowed Patton to become a hero.
So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list? As you keep adding to your list of commies, and the list finally comes down to the two Americans that were not commies who would the other one non-commie be, McCarthy, Patton or who?
So what do we call the non-dupes and what do they support?So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list? As you keep adding to your list of commies, and the list finally comes down to the two Americans that were not commies who would the other one non-commie be, McCarthy, Patton or who?
1. "So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list?"
It's more nuanced than that......have someone with a third grade education read and explain the thread to you.
2. "As you keep adding to your list of commies,..."
Well...since I have provided literally dozens of quotes, linked and sourced, it is hardly my list.
And....it's why you have never been able to dispute my posts.
3. Let's explain to everyone exactly where you fit in:
- The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.
- The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!” Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century
Did you catch that reference to you?
"This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. "
I suggest you monogam "DUPE" on all of your outfit, so folks perceive your perspective more quickly.
So what do we call the non-dupes and what do they support?So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list? As you keep adding to your list of commies, and the list finally comes down to the two Americans that were not commies who would the other one non-commie be, McCarthy, Patton or who?
1. "So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list?"
It's more nuanced than that......have someone with a third grade education read and explain the thread to you.
2. "As you keep adding to your list of commies,..."
Well...since I have provided literally dozens of quotes, linked and sourced, it is hardly my list.
And....it's why you have never been able to dispute my posts.
3. Let's explain to everyone exactly where you fit in:
- The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.
- The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!” Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century
Did you catch that reference to you?
"This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. "
I suggest you monogam "DUPE" on all of your outfit, so folks perceive your perspective more quickly.
Strange as it is, the remarkable ability as a general isn't what pushes one to the top in the armed forces. Sometimes, it becomes secondary to.....other things. Why would George Patton, who believed himself the reincarnation of a Roman legionnaire, not be the commander during the biggest invasion in United States history?
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So what do we call the non-dupes and what do they support?So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list? As you keep adding to your list of commies, and the list finally comes down to the two Americans that were not commies who would the other one non-commie be, McCarthy, Patton or who?
1. "So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list?"
It's more nuanced than that......have someone with a third grade education read and explain the thread to you.
2. "As you keep adding to your list of commies,..."
Well...since I have provided literally dozens of quotes, linked and sourced, it is hardly my list.
And....it's why you have never been able to dispute my posts.
3. Let's explain to everyone exactly where you fit in:
- The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.
- The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!” Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century
Did you catch that reference to you?
"This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. "
I suggest you monogam "DUPE" on all of your outfit, so folks perceive your perspective more quickly.
Americans....and America.
So what do we call the non-dupes and what do they support?So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list? As you keep adding to your list of commies, and the list finally comes down to the two Americans that were not commies who would the other one non-commie be, McCarthy, Patton or who?
1. "So have you now added Eisenhower to your commie list?"
It's more nuanced than that......have someone with a third grade education read and explain the thread to you.
2. "As you keep adding to your list of commies,..."
Well...since I have provided literally dozens of quotes, linked and sourced, it is hardly my list.
And....it's why you have never been able to dispute my posts.
3. Let's explain to everyone exactly where you fit in:
- The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.
- The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!” Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century
Did you catch that reference to you?
"This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. "
I suggest you monogam "DUPE" on all of your outfit, so folks perceive your perspective more quickly.
Americans....and America.
1.Does either one need any introduction?
But there were significant differences between the two.....and life had different rewards for each.
If we can assume that the job description, the careers they chose, had to do with service, and the practice of soldiering......which one was the superior in said endeavor?
Which one deserved the lion's share of rewards?
What should be the Litmus Test? If one decides on a realpolitik definition, based on a system of principles of practical, rather than moral or ideological considerations of the job, well then, the determination may change.
Time to compare the lives, and the actions, of Dwight Eisenhower and George Patton.
2. Patton, five years Eisenhower's senior, was rich, and didn't need his army salary. Eisenhower, a poor boy from a working class family, was the very opposite.
"Eisenhower (known as "Ike" by his friends and allies) and Patton first met in 1918 at Camp Colt in Pennsylvania. The two met again at Camp Meade [Maryland] in 1919. When Patton was transferred to Meade he moved next door to where Eisenhower and his wife, Mamie, lived.[7] During this time, Eisenhower encountered Patton's beliefs and ideas. Eisenhower described Patton as, "tall, straight, and soldierly looking… high, squeaking voice… with two passions, the military service and polo."
The two formed a bond, because they were both men of tanks. They loved how tanks worked and how they were used during wartime. Then in mid-April of that year, Patton was transferred from Meade, to go to Washington DC. Eisenhower was the man that replaced Patton as the head of the Tank Corps at Meade. Later that year, Patton returned to Meade and took his position over Eisenhower again. Patton's rank was higher than Eisenhower's, however, this never affected their relationship." Military History Online
3. The man who propelled Dwight Eisenhower to the uppermost levels in the military was George Marshall. He saw things in Eisenhower that inspired trust....most especially, the unhesitating ability....and desire.... to follow orders.
This was a somewhat.....variable.... ability with Patton.
When George Marshall was a colonel in the early years of the Roosevelt administration, Marshall ingratiated himself with the New Dealers by his efforts in behalf of Civilian Conservation Corps. In 1936, Marshall became a brigadier general and in 1938 Roosevelt made him Chief of Staff, jumping him over the heads of twenty major generals and fourteen senior brigadier generals.
Sherwood ["Roosevelt and Hopkins: An Intimate History,"byRobert E. Sherwood] reports that Harry Hopkins "strongly recommended" Marshall's appointment as Chief of Staff.
Once one understands who Hopkins was, it sheds new light on George Marshall's actions....
a. Life magazine ran a spread on Hopkins on September 22, 1941, calling Harry Hopkins a one-man cabinet to Roosevelt. In fact, he lived at the White House, in the Lincoln Bedroom, from May 1940 to December 1943.
LIFE
b. Harry Hopkins,- FDR's alter ego, co-president, or Rasputin, "...the closest and most influential adviser to President Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II, was a Soviet agent." and “the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States.”
The Treachery Of Harry Hopkins The Treachery Of Harry Hopkins
Harry Hopkins picked George Marshall...
..George Marshall picked Dwight Eisenhower.
Military mastery, warrior greatness, picked George Patton.
