Economic study shows H1B Visas hurt American tech workers wages

[MindWars]

ECONOMIC STUDY SHOWS H-1B VISAS HURT AMERICAN TECH WORKER WAGES

Economic Study Shows H-1B Visas Hurt American Tech Worker Wages | NumbersUSA

Well you can't tell the open border lovers anything, maybe if enough of them start losing jobs that smack of reality might hit.

 

[ScienceRocks]

You have a point here....

Our children will need to be more educated to get these jobs so we better not cut funding.

 

[irosie91]

ECONOMIC STUDY SHOWS H-1B VISAS HURT AMERICAN TECH WORKER WAGES

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Economic Study Shows H-1B Visas Hurt American Tech Worker Wages | NumbersUSA

Well you can't tell the open border lovers anything, maybe if enough of them start losing jobs that smack of reality might hit.

yes----it is important to keep the new regime INFORMED

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You have a point here....

Our children will need to be more educated to get these jobs so we better not cut funding.

Unfortunately liberals run our school systems and colleges of higher education......so yeah we're pretty much fucked.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And yet, the OP voted for the one person who will make sure our own people do not get the training they need to do these jobs.

Other countries invest in their own people. The US does not.

Other countries educate their own. The US has Betsy DeVoss who is already cutting education.

Smart people in the US will go to places that do not think education is "snobbish and elitist". Then they will stay in those countries because the US offers nothing to them.

But hey, we'll have plenty of people who can do the jobs the undocumented now do - picking watermelon, slaughtering livestock ...

 

[MindWars]

You have a point here....

Our children will need to be more educated to get these jobs so we better not cut funding.

Unfortunately liberals run our school systems and colleges of higher education......so yeah we're pretty much fucked.

You've got that right. That is also where the severe impact of brainwashing came from it all started in the schools. Guess that is why they can't see it all as we can.

All these issues have been so, so cemented into their heads they can't grasp how it could possibly be done and how it is even possible . They can't grasp how a mass of people can't be targets of their own destructions.

 

[irosie91]

Trump has to be TOLD-----he is a bit slow on the uptake------go back to
emphasis on the sciences

 

[Indeependent]

Trump has to be TOLD-----he is a bit slow on the uptake------go back to
emphasis on the sciences

H1-Bs are the scholastic dropouts of India.

 

[irosie91]

Trump has to be TOLD-----he is a bit slow on the uptake------go back to
emphasis on the sciences

H1-Bs are the scholastic dropouts of India.

not true-------but lots ARE from india--------there are lots of "you know whats"
in India---------it is ok to let the turbans in-----and the girls with dots on their
heads and THEIR hubbies-------and Zoroastrians------but care must be observed
re LOTS of others. --------sorry but its true

 

[Indeependent]

Trump has to be TOLD-----he is a bit slow on the uptake------go back to
emphasis on the sciences

H1-Bs are the scholastic dropouts of India.

not true-------but lots ARE from india--------there are lots of "you know whats"
in India---------it is ok to let the turbans in-----and the girls with dots on their
heads and THEIR hubbies-------and Zoroastrians------but care must be observed
re LOTS of others. --------sorry but its true

I have worked with them; they are useless.

 

[irosie91]

Trump has to be TOLD-----he is a bit slow on the uptake------go back to
emphasis on the sciences

H1-Bs are the scholastic dropouts of India.

not true-------but lots ARE from india--------there are lots of "you know whats"
in India---------it is ok to let the turbans in-----and the girls with dots on their
heads and THEIR hubbies-------and Zoroastrians------but care must be observed
re LOTS of others. --------sorry but its true

I have worked with them; they are useless.

ok-----they are not useless in my profession------but india suffers a
BRAIN DRAIN-----there are no real winners in our dependence on
HINDU brain. It hurts them more than it helps us. -------trump should
help DEVELOPE jobs in India

 

[Indeependent]

Trump has to be TOLD-----he is a bit slow on the uptake------go back to
emphasis on the sciences

H1-Bs are the scholastic dropouts of India.

not true-------but lots ARE from india--------there are lots of "you know whats"
in India---------it is ok to let the turbans in-----and the girls with dots on their
heads and THEIR hubbies-------and Zoroastrians------but care must be observed
re LOTS of others. --------sorry but its true

I have worked with them; they are useless.

ok-----they are not useless in my profession------but india suffers a
BRAIN DRAIN-----there are no real winners in our dependence on
HINDU brain. It hurts them more than it helps us. -------trump should
help DEVELOPE jobs in India

India is suffering fron a morals drain.
And they have developed nothing of note on either side of the planet.

 

[aris2chat]

ECONOMIC STUDY SHOWS H-1B VISAS HURT AMERICAN TECH WORKER WAGES

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Economic Study Shows H-1B Visas Hurt American Tech Worker Wages | NumbersUSA

Well you can't tell the open border lovers anything, maybe if enough of them start losing jobs that smack of reality might hit.

was that ever in doubt?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

ECONOMIC STUDY SHOWS H-1B VISAS HURT AMERICAN TECH WORKER WAGES

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Economic Study Shows H-1B Visas Hurt American Tech Worker Wages | NumbersUSA

Well you can't tell the open border lovers anything, maybe if enough of them start losing jobs that smack of reality might hit.

What? Undercutting the market hurts Americans? Well fuck if Democrats care about that. They care about the modern day robber barons.

 

[Mr Natural]

American workers need to stop being so greedy and accept a pay scale more in line with their foreign counterparts

 

[MindWars]

ECONOMIC STUDY SHOWS H-1B VISAS HURT AMERICAN TECH WORKER WAGES

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Economic Study Shows H-1B Visas Hurt American Tech Worker Wages | NumbersUSA

Well you can't tell the open border lovers anything, maybe if enough of them start losing jobs that smack of reality might hit.

was that ever in doubt?

Oh but of course not =)

 

[Slyhunter]

American workers need to stop being so greedy and accept a pay scale more in line with their foreign counterparts

Which foreign counterparts? The Chinese or the North Koreans for example?

 

[JimBowie1958]

American workers need to stop being so greedy and accept a pay scale more in line with their foreign counterparts

How about you just go eat some cow patties?

 

[JimBowie1958]

H-1B Visa Architect: Program ‘Hijacked’ to ‘Displace Americans’

Former Rep. Bruce Morrison (D-Conn.) said the 1990 H-1B visa program he helped craft has been “hijacked” to routinely replace American workers with cheaper foreign labor. He made his comments during a special that aired Sunday on CBS News’ “60 Minutes.”

CBS Evening News journalist Bill Whitaker explored the controversy surrounding the H-1B visa program that allows American corporations to hire foreign workers. Morrison insisted the bill he helped create was intended to help companies fill scientific jobs with difficult-to-find qualified candidates. He accused companies of shamelessly outsourcing thousands of jobs to younger, cheaper and temporary foreign workers through a loophole that allows companies to hire the foreign workers for jobs paying over $60,000.

“I’m outraged. The H-1B has been hijacked as the main highway to bring people from abroad and displace Americans,” Morrison told Whitaker. “It’s really a travesty that should never have been allowed to happen.”

Morrison noted that these types of scientific jobs often earn American workers $120,000 to $140,000 per year. But because foreign workers will take those jobs for far less, American companies often choose outsourcing over valuing their American workers.

“This is not about skills. It is about costs,” Morrison said. “The workers being brought in don’t know anything more than the workers they are replacing. They know less, and that’s why they have to be retrained or trained by the American workers who are being laid off.”

Robert Harrison, a former senior telecom engineer at University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) Medical Center, had been called into a meeting in October 2016 along with 80 other employees to learn that their company was outsourcing them for Indian workers. Harrison was told he could stay on the job for four months, receive his salary and even earn a bonus if he trained his foreign replacement.

“Now I’m being told that I am not only going to lose my job, but that I also need to train the people to take my place my job,” Harrison said. “That exceeds angry. I’m really not a violent guy — I love people, but I’ve envisioned myself just back-handing the guy as he’s sitting next to me trying to learn what I know.”

When Whitaker asked Harrison if he felt like he had been “digging his own grave,” Harrison replied that “it feels worse than that.”

“I can’t wrap my mind around training somebody to take my position. You know — that’s my livelihood. How am I supposed to feel?” Harrison said. “It feels like not only am I digging the grave, but I’m going to be stabbing myself in the gut and fall into the grave.”

Harrison’s former coworker, Kurt Ho, also lost his job to outsourcing and was forced to train his replacement.

“I think for once, we need to stand up as Americans and say, ‘Enough is enough. We’re not going to take it any more,'” Ho said.​

 

[MindWars]

H-1B Visa Architect: Program ‘Hijacked’ to ‘Displace Americans’

Former Rep. Bruce Morrison (D-Conn.) said the 1990 H-1B visa program he helped craft has been “hijacked” to routinely replace American workers with cheaper foreign labor. He made his comments during a special that aired Sunday on CBS News’ “60 Minutes.”

CBS Evening News journalist Bill Whitaker explored the controversy surrounding the H-1B visa program that allows American corporations to hire foreign workers. Morrison insisted the bill he helped create was intended to help companies fill scientific jobs with difficult-to-find qualified candidates. He accused companies of shamelessly outsourcing thousands of jobs to younger, cheaper and temporary foreign workers through a loophole that allows companies to hire the foreign workers for jobs paying over $60,000.

“I’m outraged. The H-1B has been hijacked as the main highway to bring people from abroad and displace Americans,” Morrison told Whitaker. “It’s really a travesty that should never have been allowed to happen.”

Morrison noted that these types of scientific jobs often earn American workers $120,000 to $140,000 per year. But because foreign workers will take those jobs for far less, American companies often choose outsourcing over valuing their American workers.

“This is not about skills. It is about costs,” Morrison said. “The workers being brought in don’t know anything more than the workers they are replacing. They know less, and that’s why they have to be retrained or trained by the American workers who are being laid off.”

Robert Harrison, a former senior telecom engineer at University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) Medical Center, had been called into a meeting in October 2016 along with 80 other employees to learn that their company was outsourcing them for Indian workers. Harrison was told he could stay on the job for four months, receive his salary and even earn a bonus if he trained his foreign replacement.

“Now I’m being told that I am not only going to lose my job, but that I also need to train the people to take my place my job,” Harrison said. “That exceeds angry. I’m really not a violent guy — I love people, but I’ve envisioned myself just back-handing the guy as he’s sitting next to me trying to learn what I know.”

When Whitaker asked Harrison if he felt like he had been “digging his own grave,” Harrison replied that “it feels worse than that.”

“I can’t wrap my mind around training somebody to take my position. You know — that’s my livelihood. How am I supposed to feel?” Harrison said. “It feels like not only am I digging the grave, but I’m going to be stabbing myself in the gut and fall into the grave.”

Harrison’s former coworker, Kurt Ho, also lost his job to outsourcing and was forced to train his replacement.

“I think for once, we need to stand up as Americans and say, ‘Enough is enough. We’re not going to take it any more,'” Ho said.​

That sounds just like what the did to workers at Disney, remember they laid off people and then told them they had to train the people who would be taking their jobs.