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So if the country had a draft today to fight in the Middle East, would you go?
(1) Please tell us exactly what a "terrorist" is.No it's bullshit because terrorists most certainly did commit the 9/11 attack. We went to war against terrorists (9/11 was not the only terrorist attack made against us), Saddam was a terrorist and Iraq publicly supported terrorism.
And how do you suppose "our boys" managed to identify these "terrorists" in Iraq and Afghanistan? Can you describe the uniforms they wear?(1) Please tell us exactly what a "terrorist" is.
Definition of âTerrorismâ in International Law
"Consequently, despite the absence of a single universal definition of terrorism it is important to indicate that three main elements seem to be required for the crime of international terrorism; (a) the acts must constitute a criminal offence under most national legal systems, such as murder, kidnapping, hostage-taking, bombing; (b) they must be aimed at spreading terror by means of violent action directed to a State, the public, or particular groups of persons; (c) they must be politically, religiously, or ideologically motivated[14]."
2) And excepting those who profit either directly or indirectly from the Military Industrial Complex, exactly how did I or any other ordinary American benefit from your service in the Middle East?
I didn't serve in the ME (Read. Comprehend.)
Our boys who did serve engaged and killed terrorists who might otherwise have committed heinous crimes against ordinary Americans. Seems to me not getting kidnapped, raped, tortured, blown up, burned alive or having your head cut off with a dull knife is a considerable benefit.
Perhaps you'd like to enlighten me as to just what exactly Michelle Witmer [National Guard]and all the others died and were maimed for life for.
A bunch of people show up in your neighborhood wearing strange clothes, carrying weapons, and take over. You object when they enter homes uninvited, take prisoner your friends and neighbors, plant explosives in your fields, accost you as you go about your business.And how do you suppose "our boys" managed to identify these "terrorists" in Iraq and Afghanistan? Can you describe the uniforms they wear?
If they shoot at you you kill them. It's not all that complicated.
"And do you think it's possible "our boys," being grossly and criminally misused by a corrupt and incompetent government, have harmed a lot of people who never did a thing to deserve it and because of that have become committed enemies of the U.S. who have good cause to despise Americans and might very well become the "terrorists" of tomorrow?"
No.
About the only difference between the ME and WWII is that we fought more honorable enemies in WWII.
So if the country had a draft today to fight in the Middle East, would you go?
I didn't serve in the ME (Read. Comprehend.)
Our boys who did serve engaged and killed terrorists who might otherwise have committed heinous crimes against ordinary Americans. Seems to me not getting kidnapped, raped, tortured, blown up, burned alive or having your head cut off with a dull knife is a considerable benefit.
Personally, I wouldn't go, mainly just because I don't believe in violence as a means of solving a problem, at least not in the long term. No matter who the enemy is, us killing them is more likely to give them more reason to want to kill us back, not to make them stop. It might temporarily beat them down into submission, but if we ever want lasting peace in this world it isn't going to come at gunpoint.
I know people aren't big fans of moral relativism, but I think it is kind of hard to determine right from wrong in these situations. In my opinion, killing is killing, no matter what the motivation or supposed justification. They say they're right and we're wrong,and we say the opposite. We're all equal human beings more-or-less, so who can judge which side is correct?
In a way, I do wish there was still a draft though. At least that way it would anger people enough who dislike war so that these conflicts couldn't continue. Instead, the volunteer system allows these wars to be pushed to the back of peoples' minds due to minimal media coverage and little to no personal sacrifice by the average American. Wars simply don't hit home anymore, and I think they should if we are going to go out of our way to wage them.
A bunch of people show up in your neighborhood wearing strange clothes, carrying weapons, and take over. You object when they enter homes uninvited, take prisoner your friends and neighbors, plant explosives in your fields, accost you as you go about your business.And how do you suppose "our boys" managed to identify these "terrorists" in Iraq and Afghanistan? Can you describe the uniforms they wear?
If they shoot at you you kill them. It's not all that complicated.
"And do you think it's possible "our boys," being grossly and criminally misused by a corrupt and incompetent government, have harmed a lot of people who never did a thing to deserve it and because of that have become committed enemies of the U.S. who have good cause to despise Americans and might very well become the "terrorists" of tomorrow?"
No.
About the only difference between the ME and WWII is that we fought more honorable enemies in WWII.
Do you:
A. Eat this shit sandwich
B: Resist
Just curious.
Personally, I wouldn't go, mainly just because I don't believe in violence as a means of solving a problem, at least not in the long term. No matter who the enemy is, us killing them is more likely to give them more reason to want to kill us back, not to make them stop. It might temporarily beat them down into submission, but if we ever want lasting peace in this world it isn't going to come at gunpoint.
I know people aren't big fans of moral relativism, but I think it is kind of hard to determine right from wrong in these situations. In my opinion, killing is killing, no matter what the motivation or supposed justification. They say they're right and we're wrong,and we say the opposite. We're all equal human beings more-or-less, so who can judge which side is correct?
In a way, I do wish there was still a draft though. At least that way it would anger people enough who dislike war so that these conflicts couldn't continue. Instead, the volunteer system allows these wars to be pushed to the back of peoples' minds due to minimal media coverage and little to no personal sacrifice by the average American. Wars simply don't hit home anymore, and I think they should if we are going to go out of our way to wage them.
A bunch of people show up in your neighborhood wearing strange clothes, carrying weapons, and take over. You object when they enter homes uninvited, take prisoner your friends and neighbors, plant explosives in your fields, accost you as you go about your business.
Do you:
A. Eat this shit sandwich
B: Resist
Just curious.
Good point, I left off our treatment of civilian females and secret rendition interrogation/torture sites around the globe. Our government pissed away any moral high ground.A bunch of people show up in your neighborhood wearing strange clothes, carrying weapons, and take over. You object when they enter homes uninvited, take prisoner your friends and neighbors, plant explosives in your fields, accost you as you go about your business.And how do you suppose "our boys" managed to identify these "terrorists" in Iraq and Afghanistan? Can you describe the uniforms they wear?
If they shoot at you you kill them. It's not all that complicated.
"And do you think it's possible "our boys," being grossly and criminally misused by a corrupt and incompetent government, have harmed a lot of people who never did a thing to deserve it and because of that have become committed enemies of the U.S. who have good cause to despise Americans and might very well become the "terrorists" of tomorrow?"
No.
About the only difference between the ME and WWII is that we fought more honorable enemies in WWII.
Do you:
A. Eat this shit sandwich
B: Resist
Just curious.
Have the rape squads stopped and the torture rooms closed?
A bunch of people show up in your neighborhood wearing strange clothes, carrying weapons, and take over. You object when they enter homes uninvited, take prisoner your friends and neighbors, plant explosives in your fields, accost you as you go about your business.And how do you suppose "our boys" managed to identify these "terrorists" in Iraq and Afghanistan? Can you describe the uniforms they wear?
If they shoot at you you kill them. It's not all that complicated.
"And do you think it's possible "our boys," being grossly and criminally misused by a corrupt and incompetent government, have harmed a lot of people who never did a thing to deserve it and because of that have become committed enemies of the U.S. who have good cause to despise Americans and might very well become the "terrorists" of tomorrow?"
No.
About the only difference between the ME and WWII is that we fought more honorable enemies in WWII.
Do you:
A. Eat this shit sandwich
B: Resist
Just curious.
Have the rape squads stopped and the torture rooms closed?
You've got it right. If it were not for the draft we probably would have stayed in Vietnam long enough to lose another 58,000 American lives -- for absolutely no good reason.Personally, I wouldn't go, mainly just because I don't believe in violence as a means of solving a problem, at least not in the long term. No matter who the enemy is, us killing them is more likely to give them more reason to want to kill us back, not to make them stop. It might temporarily beat them down into submission, but if we ever want lasting peace in this world it isn't going to come at gunpoint.
I know people aren't big fans of moral relativism, but I think it is kind of hard to determine right from wrong in these situations. In my opinion, killing is killing, no matter what the motivation or supposed justification. They say they're right and we're wrong,and we say the opposite. We're all equal human beings more-or-less, so who can judge which side is correct?
In a way, I do wish there was still a draft though. At least that way it would anger people enough who dislike war so that these conflicts couldn't continue. Instead, the volunteer system allows these wars to be pushed to the back of peoples' minds due to minimal media coverage and little to no personal sacrifice by the average American. Wars simply don't hit home anymore, and I think they should if we are going to go out of our way to wage them.
And if your son is killed in Afghanistan, what will you say he died for?So if the country had a draft today to fight in the Middle East, would you go?
No,to old, but my son did without being drafted.
Now if a war was to come to our shores like Red Dawn or something well, I'm in old fart or not.
-Geaux
A clue as to what?Personally, I wouldn't go, mainly just because I don't believe in violence as a means of solving a problem, at least not in the long term. No matter who the enemy is, us killing them is more likely to give them more reason to want to kill us back, not to make them stop. It might temporarily beat them down into submission, but if we ever want lasting peace in this world it isn't going to come at gunpoint.
I know people aren't big fans of moral relativism, but I think it is kind of hard to determine right from wrong in these situations. In my opinion, killing is killing, no matter what the motivation or supposed justification. They say they're right and we're wrong,and we say the opposite. We're all equal human beings more-or-less, so who can judge which side is correct?
In a way, I do wish there was still a draft though. At least that way it would anger people enough who dislike war so that these conflicts couldn't continue. Instead, the volunteer system allows these wars to be pushed to the back of peoples' minds due to minimal media coverage and little to no personal sacrifice by the average American. Wars simply don't hit home anymore, and I think they should if we are going to go out of our way to wage them.
You haven't a clue.
A bunch of people show up in your neighborhood wearing strange clothes, carrying weapons, and take over. You object when they enter homes uninvited, take prisoner your friends and neighbors, plant explosives in your fields, accost you as you go about your business.And how do you suppose "our boys" managed to identify these "terrorists" in Iraq and Afghanistan? Can you describe the uniforms they wear?
If they shoot at you you kill them. It's not all that complicated.
"And do you think it's possible "our boys," being grossly and criminally misused by a corrupt and incompetent government, have harmed a lot of people who never did a thing to deserve it and because of that have become committed enemies of the U.S. who have good cause to despise Americans and might very well become the "terrorists" of tomorrow?"
No.
About the only difference between the ME and WWII is that we fought more honorable enemies in WWII.
Do you:
A. Eat this shit sandwich
B: Resist
Just curious.
