Donald Trump: Kremlin Employee of the Month?

[rdean]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/14/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-kremlin-employee-of-the-month.html

Israeli newspapers. They suggested that American intelligence officials had warned Israel to “be careful” about sharing classified information with the Trump White House, for fear that it would be given to Russia.

So is our new president a Russian poodle?

Here’s what we know. The dossier was gathered by a former British MI6 spy, Christopher Steele. A onetime British ambassador to Russia described Steele as a “very competent professional operator” who would not make things up.

Look, it’s poetic justice that Donald Trump, who for years falsely bellowed that President Obama was born abroad, is now caught in similarly unsubstantiated rumors.

Unlike Trump’s claims that Obama was foreign-born, even after the president produced his birth certificate, this hasn’t been disproved or discredited, and it was regarded as credible enough to brief the president and president-elect about.

Trump compares the American intelligence community to Nazis, suggesting it was behind the leaking of the dossier. It’s astonishing to see a president-elect in effect hug the Russians while giving his own team the finger, creating a chasm between the White House and the intelligence community.

It’s also indisputable that Trump has appointed people soft on Russia.

The Trump view is so far from the foreign policy mainstream that inevitably there will be darker theories offered for the softness toward Russia. These involve financial ties with Moscow, since Trump refuses to release his tax statements, or the kind of sordid blackmail alleged in the dossier.

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You do have to admit, after years of Trump conspiracies about where Obama was born, the new Trump conspiracies are much more devastating. The Obama conspiracy was only about where he was born. Not if he had financial ties to Russia or if he was being blackmailed. Obama proved he was born here. For Trump, proving he has no Russian ties will be impossible. Especially after comments like this:

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., said at a real estate conference in 2008, according to a trade publication, eTurboNews.

So how could Trump prove he isn't a "Russian Poodle"? He could release his tax returns. At least that would prove he has no Russian ties. Or would it? That's what we want to know.

 

[Oldstyle]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

Well at least it's in Political Satire, or have I missed something, did rdean post this bizarro whatever in the Politics Section and it's been moved into Political Satire?

rdean is so um hyper these days, I have trouble keeping up with all the stuff he's posting

 

[Stratford57]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

.. and Soros' employee of the month.

 

[Oldstyle]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

Well at least it's in Political Satire, or have I missed something, did rdean post this bizarro whatever in the Politics Section and it's been moved into Political Satire?

rdean is so um hyper these days, I have trouble keeping up with all the stuff he's posting

You could put just about anything that R-Derp posts in the Political Satire genre! Some of his stuff borders on Monty Python farce!

He's not hyper, Lucy...he's frothing at the mouth. Poor little guy still can't come to terms with the fact that Trump is going to be the next President of the United States despite a solid year of his posting every slanderous thing he could dredge up about Trump.

 

[rdean]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

Well at least it's in Political Satire, or have I missed something, did rdean post this bizarro whatever in the Politics Section and it's been moved into Political Satire?

rdean is so um hyper these days, I have trouble keeping up with all the stuff he's posting

Trump and his minions give us such an incredible wealth of material. Think about it:

Russia
His fights with the intelligence community
Going back on releasing his tax returns
His fights with other nations
The marches meeting his inauguration
Attempting to take credit for deals months old
His illegal foundation
His Trump U payoff.
Another 70 lawsuits he still has to face
SNL
Fighting with Meryl Streep

So far, he considers Carrier his greatest success. He claims he saved 1100 jobs for only 7 million. Now we know it was only 730 and the CEO came out and said they were taking the money and automating. Meaning further cuts. If Trump was such a good negotiator, wouldn't he have seen that coming?

This is just getting better and better.

 

[Oldstyle]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

Well at least it's in Political Satire, or have I missed something, did rdean post this bizarro whatever in the Politics Section and it's been moved into Political Satire?

rdean is so um hyper these days, I have trouble keeping up with all the stuff he's posting

Trump and his minions give us such an incredible wealth of material. Think about it:

Russia
His fights with the intelligence community
Going back on releasing his tax returns
His fights with other nations
The marches meeting his inauguration
Attempting to take credit for deals months old
His illegal foundation
His Trump U payoff.
Another 70 lawsuits he still has to face
SNL
Fighting with Meryl Streep

So far, he considers Carrier his greatest success. He claims he saved 1100 jobs for only 7 million. Now we know it was only 730 and the CEO came out and said they were taking the money and automating. Meaning further cuts. If Trump was such a good negotiator, wouldn't he have seen that coming?

This is just getting better and better.

He hasn't been sworn in yet, you buffoon!

 

[Oldstyle]

I mean seriously...how demented do you have to be to critique someone for how they've done their job...WHEN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED YET!!!!

 

[rdean]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

Well at least it's in Political Satire, or have I missed something, did rdean post this bizarro whatever in the Politics Section and it's been moved into Political Satire?

rdean is so um hyper these days, I have trouble keeping up with all the stuff he's posting

Trump and his minions give us such an incredible wealth of material. Think about it:

Russia
His fights with the intelligence community
Going back on releasing his tax returns
His fights with other nations
The marches meeting his inauguration
Attempting to take credit for deals months old
His illegal foundation
His Trump U payoff.
Another 70 lawsuits he still has to face
SNL
Fighting with Meryl Streep

So far, he considers Carrier his greatest success. He claims he saved 1100 jobs for only 7 million. Now we know it was only 730 and the CEO came out and said they were taking the money and automating. Meaning further cuts. If Trump was such a good negotiator, wouldn't he have seen that coming?

This is just getting better and better.

He hasn't been sworn in yet, you buffoon!

I know. That's what makes it so remarkable. Doncha think?

This is what a Russian Poodle looks like:

He's a thoroughbred.

 

[rdean]

When did Republicans go from defending us from Russia

to defending

Russia from us?

 

[Oldstyle]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

Well at least it's in Political Satire, or have I missed something, did rdean post this bizarro whatever in the Politics Section and it's been moved into Political Satire?

rdean is so um hyper these days, I have trouble keeping up with all the stuff he's posting

Trump and his minions give us such an incredible wealth of material. Think about it:

Russia
His fights with the intelligence community
Going back on releasing his tax returns
His fights with other nations
The marches meeting his inauguration
Attempting to take credit for deals months old
His illegal foundation
His Trump U payoff.
Another 70 lawsuits he still has to face
SNL
Fighting with Meryl Streep

So far, he considers Carrier his greatest success. He claims he saved 1100 jobs for only 7 million. Now we know it was only 730 and the CEO came out and said they were taking the money and automating. Meaning further cuts. If Trump was such a good negotiator, wouldn't he have seen that coming?

This is just getting better and better.

He hasn't been sworn in yet, you buffoon!

I know. That's what makes it so remarkable. Doncha think?

This is what a Russian Poodle looks like:

He's a thoroughbred.

You're a moron...seriously...you need to seek professional help!

 

[rdean]

R-DERP: US MESSAGE BOARD VILLAGE IDIOT!

Well at least it's in Political Satire, or have I missed something, did rdean post this bizarro whatever in the Politics Section and it's been moved into Political Satire?

rdean is so um hyper these days, I have trouble keeping up with all the stuff he's posting

Trump and his minions give us such an incredible wealth of material. Think about it:

Russia
His fights with the intelligence community
Going back on releasing his tax returns
His fights with other nations
The marches meeting his inauguration
Attempting to take credit for deals months old
His illegal foundation
His Trump U payoff.
Another 70 lawsuits he still has to face
SNL
Fighting with Meryl Streep

So far, he considers Carrier his greatest success. He claims he saved 1100 jobs for only 7 million. Now we know it was only 730 and the CEO came out and said they were taking the money and automating. Meaning further cuts. If Trump was such a good negotiator, wouldn't he have seen that coming?

This is just getting better and better.

He hasn't been sworn in yet, you buffoon!

I know. That's what makes it so remarkable. Doncha think?

This is what a Russian Poodle looks like:

He's a thoroughbred.

You're a moron...seriously...you need to seek professional help!

As long as I tell the truth, I've done nothing wrong.

 

[rdean]

Why does Trump keep defending Putin?

 

[Zorro!]

Opinion | Donald Trump: Kremlin Employee of the Month?

Israeli newspapers. They suggested that American intelligence officials had warned Israel to “be careful” about sharing classified information with the Trump White House, for fear that it would be given to Russia.

So is our new president a Russian poodle?

Here’s what we know. The dossier was gathered by a former British MI6 spy, Christopher Steele. A onetime British ambassador to Russia described Steele as a “very competent professional operator” who would not make things up....

Even Steele, under oath, would not vouch for his Dossier.

William Barr Was Right and the Media and Ruling Class Were Wrong About Everything. It's Time for Them to Admit It.

Nice.

Chris Buskirk of American Greatness, writing at the New York Times:

For nearly four years, members of America’s ruling class, especially those in the media, the academy and government, have operated on one central, unquestioned assumption: orange man bad. This stifling orthodoxy led to a blind, counterfactual faith in the theory that Mr. Trump had somehow colluded with "the Russians" to win the election. Again, the specific charges were always amorphous -- plastic enough to change as needed. That's hardly surprising: That's the way conspiracy theories always work. The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

But why is it not enough to simply acknowledge that you dislike Mr. Trump and disagree with his policies? What psychological purpose does adding the fiction of a conspiracy serve?

The French philosopher and literary critic Rene' Girard held that such scapegoating and ritual sacrifice is an essential part of group identity and solidarity. That seems to apply here. Mr. Trump ran against American elites and their insular culture. Their response was to load onto him all of the sins they see in American society and attempt to sacrifice him to appease their gods.

Mr. Girard asked a question that is pertinent today: "Why is our own participation in scapegoating so difficult to perceive and the participation of others so easy? To us, our fears and prejudices never appear as such because they determine our vision of people we despise, we fear, and against whom we discriminate."

But the ritual sacrifice of Donald Trump didn't work -- at least not in the sense of removing him from office. It certainly did have the effect of catalyzing and uniting his opponents. Still, one of the many ironies here is that the Trump-hating media has handed him an incredibly powerful weapon for the 2020 campaign, one that may ensure his re-election.

Again, the operating principle was that of the zealot: Believe the narrative regardless of the lack of evidence, squint to see justifications where there are none and then in an intoxicated frenzy of moral superiority use any weapon at hand to destroy your enemy.​

Sean Davis

✔@seanmdav
Sorry, but you don’t get to yadda yadda yadda the fact that there was no Russian collusion just so you can get back to your happy place of Orange Man Bad and pretend like the baseless conspiracy theory you pushed didn’t just blow up in your face. https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1119232249554018304 …

David French

✔@DavidAFrench

When evaluating the Mueller report, there are important questions beyond the existence of a conspiracy. A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation. It should not be this man: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-mueller-report-should-shock-our-conscience/ …

10:25 AM - Apr 19, 2019

 

[gipper]

Opinion | Donald Trump: Kremlin Employee of the Month?

Israeli newspapers. They suggested that American intelligence officials had warned Israel to “be careful” about sharing classified information with the Trump White House, for fear that it would be given to Russia.

So is our new president a Russian poodle?

Here’s what we know. The dossier was gathered by a former British MI6 spy, Christopher Steele. A onetime British ambassador to Russia described Steele as a “very competent professional operator” who would not make things up....

Even Steele, under oath, would not vouch for his Dossier.

William Barr Was Right and the Media and Ruling Class Were Wrong About Everything. It's Time for Them to Admit It.

Nice.

Chris Buskirk of American Greatness, writing at the New York Times:

For nearly four years, members of America’s ruling class, especially those in the media, the academy and government, have operated on one central, unquestioned assumption: orange man bad. This stifling orthodoxy led to a blind, counterfactual faith in the theory that Mr. Trump had somehow colluded with "the Russians" to win the election. Again, the specific charges were always amorphous -- plastic enough to change as needed. That's hardly surprising: That's the way conspiracy theories always work. The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

But why is it not enough to simply acknowledge that you dislike Mr. Trump and disagree with his policies? What psychological purpose does adding the fiction of a conspiracy serve?

The French philosopher and literary critic Rene' Girard held that such scapegoating and ritual sacrifice is an essential part of group identity and solidarity. That seems to apply here. Mr. Trump ran against American elites and their insular culture. Their response was to load onto him all of the sins they see in American society and attempt to sacrifice him to appease their gods.

Mr. Girard asked a question that is pertinent today: "Why is our own participation in scapegoating so difficult to perceive and the participation of others so easy? To us, our fears and prejudices never appear as such because they determine our vision of people we despise, we fear, and against whom we discriminate."

But the ritual sacrifice of Donald Trump didn't work -- at least not in the sense of removing him from office. It certainly did have the effect of catalyzing and uniting his opponents. Still, one of the many ironies here is that the Trump-hating media has handed him an incredibly powerful weapon for the 2020 campaign, one that may ensure his re-election.

Again, the operating principle was that of the zealot: Believe the narrative regardless of the lack of evidence, squint to see justifications where there are none and then in an intoxicated frenzy of moral superiority use any weapon at hand to destroy your enemy.​

Sean Davis

✔@seanmdav
Sorry, but you don’t get to yadda yadda yadda the fact that there was no Russian collusion just so you can get back to your happy place of Orange Man Bad and pretend like the baseless conspiracy theory you pushed didn’t just blow up in your face. https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1119232249554018304 …

David French

✔@DavidAFrench

When evaluating the Mueller report, there are important questions beyond the existence of a conspiracy. A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation. It should not be this man: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-mueller-report-should-shock-our-conscience/ …

10:25 AM - Apr 19, 2019

Did you have bring this crazy thread by a crazy person forward?

 

[Zorro!]

Opinion | Donald Trump: Kremlin Employee of the Month?

Israeli newspapers. They suggested that American intelligence officials had warned Israel to “be careful” about sharing classified information with the Trump White House, for fear that it would be given to Russia.

So is our new president a Russian poodle?

Here’s what we know. The dossier was gathered by a former British MI6 spy, Christopher Steele. A onetime British ambassador to Russia described Steele as a “very competent professional operator” who would not make things up....

Even Steele, under oath, would not vouch for his Dossier.

William Barr Was Right and the Media and Ruling Class Were Wrong About Everything. It's Time for Them to Admit It.

Nice.

Chris Buskirk of American Greatness, writing at the New York Times:

For nearly four years, members of America’s ruling class, especially those in the media, the academy and government, have operated on one central, unquestioned assumption: orange man bad. This stifling orthodoxy led to a blind, counterfactual faith in the theory that Mr. Trump had somehow colluded with "the Russians" to win the election. Again, the specific charges were always amorphous -- plastic enough to change as needed. That's hardly surprising: That's the way conspiracy theories always work. The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

But why is it not enough to simply acknowledge that you dislike Mr. Trump and disagree with his policies? What psychological purpose does adding the fiction of a conspiracy serve?

The French philosopher and literary critic Rene' Girard held that such scapegoating and ritual sacrifice is an essential part of group identity and solidarity. That seems to apply here. Mr. Trump ran against American elites and their insular culture. Their response was to load onto him all of the sins they see in American society and attempt to sacrifice him to appease their gods.

Mr. Girard asked a question that is pertinent today: "Why is our own participation in scapegoating so difficult to perceive and the participation of others so easy? To us, our fears and prejudices never appear as such because they determine our vision of people we despise, we fear, and against whom we discriminate."

But the ritual sacrifice of Donald Trump didn't work -- at least not in the sense of removing him from office. It certainly did have the effect of catalyzing and uniting his opponents. Still, one of the many ironies here is that the Trump-hating media has handed him an incredibly powerful weapon for the 2020 campaign, one that may ensure his re-election.

Again, the operating principle was that of the zealot: Believe the narrative regardless of the lack of evidence, squint to see justifications where there are none and then in an intoxicated frenzy of moral superiority use any weapon at hand to destroy your enemy.​

Sean Davis

✔@seanmdav
Sorry, but you don’t get to yadda yadda yadda the fact that there was no Russian collusion just so you can get back to your happy place of Orange Man Bad and pretend like the baseless conspiracy theory you pushed didn’t just blow up in your face. https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1119232249554018304 …

David French

✔@DavidAFrench

When evaluating the Mueller report, there are important questions beyond the existence of a conspiracy. A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation. It should not be this man: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-mueller-report-should-shock-our-conscience/ …

10:25 AM - Apr 19, 2019

Did you have bring this crazy thread by a crazy person forward?

They made a claim, confident that it reflected reality. As time and a massive amount of investigation and our best efforts to substantiate have come to a conclusion, we now know that it's completely free of empirical support.

What is your objection to noting that?

What a great illustration of our system of Jurisprudence where indictments require ACTUAL courtroom quality evidence. We've known the entire time that once FACTS and EVIDENCE had to be produced that it would be clear that Muller had nothing but a handful of feathers.

In the end, our system of justice has been vindicated. Now those that colluded in this grand conspiracy to weaponize our Intelligence Community against a Domestic Political Rival need to be held to account.

 

[Markle]

A thread about an opinion article in the far left New York Times from over two years ago. Why?

False allegations of President Donald Trump COLLUDING with the Russians, two-year investigation PROVING the allegations were and are LIES.

How soon they forget what REAL COLLUSION looks like!

 

[Zorro!]

A thread about an opinion article in the far left New York Times from over two years ago. Why?

False allegations of President Donald Trump COLLUDING with the Russians, two-year investigation PROVING the allegations were and are LIES.

How soon they forget what REAL COLLUSION looks like!

Gowdy is great at shooting off his mouth, but has he ever accomplished anything for us? What is the difference between what he accomplished with his Committee on Benghazi and absolutely nothing?

Yes, the FBI Was Investigating the Trump Campaign When It Spied

Trey Gowdy and Marco Rubio evidently paid little attention to testimony before their own committees on how Obama officials made the Trump campaign the subject of a counterintelligence investigation.

All this unpleasantry about "spying" the DC insiders dash to the scene to douse the controversy with cold water, dutifully stepping forward in fine bipartisan fettle are the Obama administration’s top intelligence official and two influential Capitol Hill Republicans who evidently pay little attention to major testimony before their own committees.

Former National Intelligence director James Crapper was first to the scene of the blaze. Crapper concedes that, well, yes, the FBI did run an informant — “spy” is such an icky word — at Trump campaign officials; but you must understand that this was merely to investigate Russia. Cross his heart, it had nothing to do with the Trump campaign. No, no, no. Indeed, they only used an informant because — bet you didn’t know this — doing so is the most benign, least intrusive mode of conducting an investigation.

Imagine the Democrats’ response if, say, the Bush administration had run a covert intelligence operative against Obama 2008 campaign officials, including the campaign’s co-chairman. I’m sure David Axelrod, Chuck Schumer, the New York Times, and Rachel Maddow would chirp that “all is forgiven” once they heard Republicans punctiliously parse the nuances between investigating campaign officials versus the campaign proper; between “spies,” “informants,” and other government-directed covert operatives.

Sure!

Senator Rubio and Trey Gowdy

Senator Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) and Representative Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.), General Crapper’s fellow fire extinguishers.

Rubio is a member in good standing of that Washington pillar, the Senate Intelligence Committee, which has had about as much interest in scrutinizing the highly irregular actions of intelligence and law-enforcement officials in the Clinton and Russia probes as Gowdy’s Benghazi committee had in revisiting Republican ardor for Obama’s unprovoked war on Moammar Qaddafi.

Rubio told ABC News that he has seen “no evidence” that the FBI was gathering information about the Trump campaign. Rather, agents “were investigating individuals with a history of links to Russia that were concerning.” The senator elaborated that “when individuals like that are in the orbit of a major political campaign in America, the FBI, who is in charge of counterintelligence investigations, should look at people like that.”

Gee, senator, when you were carefully perusing the evidence of what the FBI was doing, did you ever sneak a peek at what the FBI said it was doing?

May I suggest, for example, the stunning public testimony by then-director James Comey on March 20, 2017, before the House Intelligence Committee — perhaps Representative Gowdy, who sits on that committee, could lend you the transcript, since he appears not to be using it. Just so we’re clear, this is not an obscure scrap of evidence buried within volumes of testimony. It is the testimony that launched the Mueller probe, and that sets (or, better, fails to set) the parameters of that probe — a flaw the nation has been discussing for a year.

Comey’s House testimony was breathtaking, not just because it confirmed the existence of a classified counterintelligence investigation, but because of what the bureau’s then-director said about the Trump campaign:

I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts. . . .​

Trump Campaign Spying -- Obama Administration Investigation Aimed at Trump Campaign | National Review