Do You Support The "Gun Show Loophole?"

[logical4u]

I asked this question to a couple other right wingers on this site and they said they agreed with making it illegal for blacks to have guns.

Please tell me that you understand sarcasm.

The second amendment is for all citizens (unless they have proven not to respect law: felon).

That wasn't sarcasm, it's a fact many right wing extremists think blacks shouldn't own guns just like the quote I posted.

Keep in mind when the constitution was written, many people, including George Washington himself had slaves. They were not considered people, but property.

That is your "the more you know" fact of the day

At that time, most "leaders" had slaves, including most African leaders. The Constitution was written for "people", the slave holders redefined "blacks" as less than people. This country overcame that, and rejected that definition. That "Constitution" has done more good for people all over the world (including blacks in this country, that would not like the treatement they received if they went back to Africa). NO system in the history of the world has ever had a higher standard of living. No other system has given its citizens more freedom or opportunity.

If you disagree, please list the systems or places that have been or are better than this country.

 

[logical4u]

If the Gun Show Loophole is closed it would make it illegal for a grandparent to leave a weapon to their child or grandchild. Every transfer would have to be registered. After one generation has past every gun in the USA would have to be registered to be legal. That gives the government a complete list of every legal gun owner. It will allow them to easily confiscate all weapons from legal gun owners leaving guns only in the hands of illegal criminal gun owners. This is why we must not allow this. We need a publicized list of bad people who should not be allowed to have weapons just like we do with registered sex offenders. Listing good guys with guns is retarded.

You know how else we could "close" the "Gun show loophole"?

Make it illegal to sell guns at a gun show if you're not a dealer.

Problem solved, and kindly old Grandad can still leave his shotgun "Bessy" to little Opie.

But.................then the gun nuts are gonna ask why are you infringing on their rights to sell the 2nd Ammendment?

Me? I think the gun show loophole (and straw purchasers) should be stopped. If you can't pass a background check, you don't need to own a gun.

I mean shit.......................we stop people from driving after too many DUI's, right? Why not have at least a bit of that kind of control for something that kills many more people everyday?

The loss of license comes after (that is AFTER) a crime is comitted. Just sayin'.....

 

[logical4u]

If the Gun Show Loophole is closed it would make it illegal for a grandparent to leave a weapon to their child or grandchild. Every transfer would have to be registered. After one generation has past every gun in the USA would have to be registered to be legal. That gives the government a complete list of every legal gun owner. It will allow them to easily confiscate all weapons from legal gun owners leaving guns only in the hands of illegal criminal gun owners. This is why we must not allow this. We need a publicized list of bad people who should not be allowed to have weapons just like we do with registered sex offenders. Listing good guys with guns is retarded.

You know how else we could "close" the "Gun show loophole"?

Make it illegal to sell guns at a gun show if you're not a dealer.

Problem solved, and kindly old Grandad can still leave his shotgun "Bessy" to little Opie.

Better still, only gun stores should be able to sell guns.

And people should only be able to vote "at the polling" place......

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If the Gun Show Loophole is closed it would make it illegal for a grandparent to leave a weapon to their child or grandchild. Every transfer would have to be registered. After one generation has past every gun in the USA would have to be registered to be legal. That gives the government a complete list of every legal gun owner. It will allow them to easily confiscate all weapons from legal gun owners leaving guns only in the hands of illegal criminal gun owners. This is why we must not allow this. We need a publicized list of bad people who should not be allowed to have weapons just like we do with registered sex offenders. Listing good guys with guns is retarded.

You know how else we could "close" the "Gun show loophole"?

Make it illegal to sell guns at a gun show if you're not a dealer.

Problem solved, and kindly old Grandad can still leave his shotgun "Bessy" to little Opie.

I started a thread a week or two ago that made that suggestion. The government wouldn't even have too get involved. It would be at the organizer directive. After all gun shows are privately run.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/6868022-post1.html

 

[Black_Label]

Why does a person who claims too be black support the racist agenda of gun control?

BlackLable is too stupid to understand that laws such as Pat Brown's prohibition of open carry in California were directly to disarm the Black Panthers.

Who let you out of the klan rally early?

It's hilarious watching the radical right wing lunatics like yourself crying racism

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why does a person who claims too be black support the racist agenda of gun control?

BlackLable is too stupid to understand that laws such as Pat Brown's prohibition of open carry in California were directly to disarm the Black Panthers.

Who let you out of the klan rally early?

It's hilarious watching the radical right wing lunatics like yourself crying racism

What's even more funny is watching you join with the klan in support of gun control. Do you wear gloves too the meetings?

 

[GuyPinestra]

Why does a person who claims too be black support the racist agenda of gun control?

BlackLable is too stupid to understand that laws such as Pat Brown's prohibition of open carry in California were directly to disarm the Black Panthers.

Who let you out of the klan rally early?

It's hilarious watching the radical right wing lunatics like yourself crying racism

I see you still haven't substantiated your bullshit claim, jackass.

 

[Black_Label]

BlackLable is too stupid to understand that laws such as Pat Brown's prohibition of open carry in California were directly to disarm the Black Panthers.

Who let you out of the klan rally early?

It's hilarious watching the radical right wing lunatics like yourself crying racism

What's even more funny is watching you join with the klan in support of gun control. Do you wear gloves too the meetings?

How is requiring background checks racist with klan ties?

The klan along with the GOP, teabaggers, and other racists want to assemble their anti-american groups while being able to hide in the shadows by not requiring a background check for their weapons.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who let you out of the klan rally early?

It's hilarious watching the radical right wing lunatics like yourself crying racism

What's even more funny is watching you join with the klan in support of gun control. Do you wear gloves too the meetings?

How is requiring background checks racist with klan ties?

The klan along with the GOP, teabaggers, and other racists want to assemble their anti-american groups while being able to hide in the shadows by not requiring a background check for their weapons.

We already have back ground checks, why are you wanting more gun control?

 

[ima]

We don't need back ground checks, we need BLACK ground checks.

 

[M14 Shooter]

We already have back ground checks, why are you wanting more gun control?

See: my sig.

 

[hunarcy]

If the Gun Show Loophole is closed it would make it illegal for a grandparent to leave a weapon to their child or grandchild. Every transfer would have to be registered. After one generation has past every gun in the USA would have to be registered to be legal. That gives the government a complete list of every legal gun owner. It will allow them to easily confiscate all weapons from legal gun owners leaving guns only in the hands of illegal criminal gun owners. This is why we must not allow this. We need a publicized list of bad people who should not be allowed to have weapons just like we do with registered sex offenders. Listing good guys with guns is retarded.

You know how else we could "close" the "Gun show loophole"?

Make it illegal to sell guns at a gun show if you're not a dealer.

Problem solved, and kindly old Grandad can still leave his shotgun "Bessy" to little Opie.

LOL! Then, everyone will meet in parking lots to sell, having arranged their meetings on Craigslist.

What should happen is we stop trying to punish the weapon, as if it's the problem. Instead, we need to deal more effectively with those who would victimize us.

 

[OriginalShroom]

I actually like the last bit of news..

That Congress was going to increase the punishment for Straw purchasers.

I only hope that they make it retroactive and prosecute those who ordered the FFL holders to sell those gun that were used in Fast and Furious under it.

 

[ima]

If the Gun Show Loophole is closed it would make it illegal for a grandparent to leave a weapon to their child or grandchild. Every transfer would have to be registered. After one generation has past every gun in the USA would have to be registered to be legal. That gives the government a complete list of every legal gun owner. It will allow them to easily confiscate all weapons from legal gun owners leaving guns only in the hands of illegal criminal gun owners. This is why we must not allow this. We need a publicized list of bad people who should not be allowed to have weapons just like we do with registered sex offenders. Listing good guys with guns is retarded.

You know how else we could "close" the "Gun show loophole"?

Make it illegal to sell guns at a gun show if you're not a dealer.

Problem solved, and kindly old Grandad can still leave his shotgun "Bessy" to little Opie.

LOL! Then, everyone will meet in parking lots to sell, having arranged their meetings on Craigslist.

What should happen is we stop trying to punish the weapon, as if it's the problem. Instead, we need to deal more effectively with those who would victimize us.

Guns should only be sold at gun stores, if you have a gun to sell, sell it on consignment at the gun store. VERY VERY simple measure.

 

[OriginalShroom]

You know how else we could "close" the "Gun show loophole"?

Make it illegal to sell guns at a gun show if you're not a dealer.

Problem solved, and kindly old Grandad can still leave his shotgun "Bessy" to little Opie.

LOL! Then, everyone will meet in parking lots to sell, having arranged their meetings on Craigslist.

What should happen is we stop trying to punish the weapon, as if it's the problem. Instead, we need to deal more effectively with those who would victimize us.

Guns should only be sold at gun stores, if you have a gun to sell, sell it on consignment at the gun store. VERY VERY simple measure.

And property must only be sold through a Government Approved dealer, Cars can only be sold through a Government Approved Dealer, Food can only be sold by an Government Aprroved Dealer.

 

[Black_Label]

What's even more funny is watching you join with the klan in support of gun control. Do you wear gloves too the meetings?

How is requiring background checks racist with klan ties?

The klan along with the GOP, teabaggers, and other racists want to assemble their anti-american groups while being able to hide in the shadows by not requiring a background check for their weapons.

We already have back ground checks, why are you wanting more gun control?

Only on purchases through licensed firearm dealers. Private sales require no background checks what so ever.

 

[logical4u]

You know how else we could "close" the "Gun show loophole"?

Make it illegal to sell guns at a gun show if you're not a dealer.

Problem solved, and kindly old Grandad can still leave his shotgun "Bessy" to little Opie.

LOL! Then, everyone will meet in parking lots to sell, having arranged their meetings on Craigslist.

What should happen is we stop trying to punish the weapon, as if it's the problem. Instead, we need to deal more effectively with those who would victimize us.

Guns should only be sold at gun stores, if you have a gun to sell, sell it on consignment at the gun store. VERY VERY simple measure.

Cars should only be sold at "dealerships". If you have a car to sell, sell it on "consignment". It doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?

 

[logical4u]

Any law that is passed for "gun ownership" should be applied to voting. If we require fingerprints and background check to purchase a gun, the same thing should be required to vote. They are both rights, but only the right to bear arms adds the clause "shall not be infringed". Voter rights should be held to higher standards than gun ownership, cause "just one life" might be saved.....

 

[SinJinsg]

A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.

For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.

That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.

Actually, you are wrong. Gun dealers have to perform background checks no matter where they sell a gun - a gun show, a shop, or someone's back yard. A private person, however, has no reason to show anything to the government. It is none of your damn business what I do with my private property. Keep your damn busy-body nose in your own business.

 

[Polk]

I actually like the last bit of news..

That Congress was going to increase the punishment for Straw purchasers.

I only hope that they make it retroactive and prosecute those who ordered the FFL holders to sell those gun that were used in Fast and Furious under it.

You can't make the changes retroactive.