Do you celebrate "Martin Luther King's" day?

[The ClayTaurus]

And my point, precisely, is that because you don't give a... damn, doesn't mean that no one else should be allowed to. You have the right to think it is meaningless, and others of us have the right to think it matters.

As for me, I didn't think adultery was irrelevant with Clinton, I don't think it is irrelevant with King, and I don't think it is irrelevant with anyone else for that matter.

Does it dimish only their personal character, or the entire scope of their effect on humanity?

 

[archangel]

I am really tired of the diatribe as to calling people names such as "Nazi"...for listing a link to storm...I only posted this link as it was easy access..I will now post to links I use "Regularly"(said1)...one is a paid site but list the basic info requested.... www.paperlessarchives.com/mlk.html

or you can go to http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/king.htm


both of these sites substaniate the storm papers!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I am really tired of the diatribe as to calling people names such as "Nazi"...for listing a link to storm...I only posted this link as it was easy access..I will now post to links I use "Regularly"(said1)...one is a paid site but list the basic info requested.... www.paperlessarchives.com/mlk.html

or you can go to http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/king.htm


both of these sites substaniate the storm papers!

How?

And, for the second site, which page of the 201 available would you like me to look at? I'm assuming you actually read through them all, instead of just blindly posting an FBI link...

And no one called you a Nazi. Just the people you're referencing.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

go here: www.martinlutherking.org/thebeast.html

this will substaniate the allegations... ***shrug***

Well, well, well. GUESS WHAT? I didnt ponder far into that piece on the racist web site before finding some very interesting stuff.

The REASON why I dismiss any such writings by such evil and vile people, is because you really cant believe any of it.

Here is a quote from the site:

Rosa Parks: The Real Story

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Blacks-RosaParks-Toner.html

"Civil Rights Hero," Rosa Parks: USA Today reports that NEA teachers
have seen to it that every public school child in America knows their version of "The Rosa Parks' Story."

It goes something like this; a poor tired black seamstress took a seat in the front of a Montgomery, Alabama buss on December 1, 1955. The driver asked her to move to the back under the state's Segregation law.

For refusing Parks was arrested.

Four days later Martin Luther King arrive in town and launched the Montgomery Buss Boycott. After 381 days, the Supreme Court ordered the city buses integrated. The True Parks' Story: the behind-the-scene true story is that Rosa Parks was the secretary of the local NAACP.

The book, "Speak Now," a left-wing history of the civil rights movement, states that in August of 1955, (four months before the bus incident) Parks attended the Highlander Folk School in Mount Eagle, Tennessee. The "school" was started in 1932 by Myles Horton and James Dombrowski, both members of the Communist Party.

"Speak Now" states that the schools' original purpose was to train Communists activists on how to promote textile strikes, hold protest marches, picket lines and learn "socialist songs."

The Textile Workers Union was completely controlled by the Communist Party. "Speak Now," page 529 reads as:

"FBI surveillance of the Highlander Folk School and the Southern Conference Educational Fund, (SCEF) intensified. In 1952 Myles Horton would invest their energy and resources in the historic Southern struggle over desegregation of the public schools."

"Speak Now," says that Parks attended summer training at the Highlander Folk school in 1955, 1956 and 1957. She is pictured with Martin Luther King sitting on the front row in a Highlander training class on September 2, 1957. Thus, the liberals' story that she was just a "poor tired black seamstress" when she sat
in the front of the bus is a total lie!

On December 1, the black Troy State College in Montgomery opened a $10
million Rosa Parks Library and monument. Attending the dedication included the state's first Jewish governor, Dan Siegelman, who praised Parks, Coretta Scott King said that this incident launched her husband's civil rights career and
added:

"By the sheer force of her will, she set in motion a revolution that continues to this day." (Note: She could have and should have also thanked the Communist Party school which trained Parks)

Parks is called, "The mother of the civil rights movement." Both NAACP head Kweisis Mfume, (who has five children by five different women; and never married to any of them) and Jesse Jackson (who is also the father of an illegitimate child) attended. Earlier, Clinton presented Miss Parks with the Congressional Gold Medal of Honor.

An old city bus, like the one Parks road on, is on display in the museum. Children are now brought on the bus and a harsh recorded voice tells all blacks to move to the back. This is deliberately designed to instill feelings of guilt and self-hate in White Children. (The Truth at Last, P.O. Box 1211, Marietta, Georgia, p. 4)

HOW THE HELL DO THEY FIGURE BY SITTING NEXT TO MLK TWO YEARS AFTER THE BUS INCIDENT, THAT PROVES SHE WASNT A POOR WORKING WOMAN?????? FREAKING LIARS.

OH, AND OF COURSE, ALL THEIR ATTACKS CENTER ON TWO THINGS, ADULTERY AND SUPPOSED ASSOCIATIONS WITH THE COMMUNIST PARTY.

THIS ABOUT THE FBI(WHO ALSO SUPPOSEDLY HAD THE TAPES WHERE MLK HAS SEX WITH PROSTITUTES, CLINKING OF GLASSES PROVES ITS A "PARTY" AND HE SCREAMS, "IM F...CKING FOR GOD", I WAS WONDERING HOW THE FBI COULD DETERMINE IT WAS HIS VOICE.) WELL, WE FIND OUT THE SUPPOSED QUOTE FROM 'NEWSWEEK' WAS MERELY A BOOK REVIEW, AND THOSE WORDS WERE FROM THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK. NOT THE WORDS OF NEWSWEEK. BUT HAVING DONE A GOOGLE, I FIND THAT OTHERS IN OTHER FORUMS ARE QUOTING THE WORDS LIKE IT WAS AN INVESTIGATIVE ARTICLE BY NEWSWEEK, WITH NO MENTION OF IT AS A BOOK REVIEW.

NOW, ABOUT THE FBI, FROM THE SAME BOOK:
For King, there were constant pressures. Convinced the preacher was a subversive, Hoover harassed him in ways small and large. One broadside: in an attempt to smear King after he won the Nobel Peace Prize, the FBI sent him a "suicide package" of embarrassing wiretaps with a letter suggesting that King kill himself or face exposure.




AND a quote from your site:

This page examines the people and events that exemplify the civil rights industry. The mass media and the civil rights industry effectively work together to censor facts and ideas that expose the so-called civil rights movement as un-American and subversive.

SO THEY DESCRIBE THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT AS UN AMERICAN AND SUBVERSIVE. HMMMMMMMMM

NOW THESE VERY VILE AND CONTEMPTABLE PEOPLE JUDGE DAVID DUKE:
It is a powerful autobiographical account of David Duke's evolution from a typical American son to one of the most controversial political leaders in the world. His compelling story takes us from his early life and love of the wetlands and forests of south Louisiana to his activism for the rights and heritage of European Americans. It recounts his political victory in the House of Representatives from Louisiana, and his subsequent amazing races for the U.S. Senate and Governorship that won him a landslide of White voters (over 60%) even though he was vastly out spent and attacked relentlessly by a hostile media.

Two-thirds of the book is devoted to his awakening on the most important issue of our time: RACE. He offers compelling evidence that belief in racial equality is the modern scientific equivalent of believing that the earth is flat. He goes on to show its irrepressible influence on the rise and fall of civilizations. In a major section of the book he offers compelling evidence (primarily from Jewish sources) explaining the Jewish role in leading the Western World to the edge of a racial apocalypse.

My Awakening is a reference book for all patriots. It is well-written and fascinating reading. It deals with the most important issues of our time with an honesty and a power unlike any other book in print. It may well change the world. Autographed copies are available from Free Speech Books.



IM GONNA FINISH WITH THIS FROM YOUR SITE:

The eccentric woman in the Citizens Council office, who railed about the Jews and Communism, obviously had some of her facts right, even if she seemed to fit the media stereotype of the anti-Semite. The facts were inescapable: Communism and Zionism were born from the same Jewish soul, personified in Moses Hess.


SORRY, BUT THE SITE IS A DISPICABLE LEDGER OR LIES AND DISTORTIONS. I WOULDNT BELIEVE ONE SINGLE WORD I READ THERE.

 

[archangel]

You are about as lazy and self involved as clay...scroll up to my post#102

also I was referring to the article in storm... "The Beast as Saint" and the source material at the bottom of the page...as it was easy access...I did not in anyway endorse the entire site or other articles...get a grip and take your meds before you blindly go off!

 

[LuvRPgrl]

You are about as lazy and self involved as clay...scroll up to my post#102

also I was referring to the article in storm... "The Beast as Saint" and the source material at the bottom of the page...as it was easy access...I did not in anyway endorse the entire site or other articles...get a grip and take your meds before you blindly go off!

Oh boy. I see your intellectual level is none higher than the pigs of racism. Calling me lazy?? hahahahahh, yea, I guess you are the guardian of all things good. Too bad, IM WHITE!

Uh, your patron saints of bigotry claimed MLK was a communist, and they tried to use people he affiliated himself with as proof, because they were communists too. But look at what your other site says about the guy your bigot site was using as proof of MLK's communist ties:

"The FBI expressed concern on how close Levison, who the FBI constantly referred to as a "secret member of the Communist Party," and King had become. Files indicated that sometime after the Department of Justice contacted King about Levison's communist ties, King ended direct contact with him.

Not to mention this crap, which totally delegitimizes anything the FBI might say about MLK:
"On November 1st, 1975, former FBI Assistant Director, Domestic Intelligence Division, William C. Sullivan said King was the target of an intensive campaign by the FBI to neutralize him as an effective civil rights leader. Sullivan stated that in the war against King, "no holds were barred." This in part lead to a Department of Justice investigation. Report coverage includes: events surrounding April 4th, 1968, FBI investigation of the assassination, James Earl Ray, FBI surveillance and harassment of King, his associates and family, and audio "bugs."

no hold barred, that would include LYING. Just the kind of thing your buddies the bigots will do.

Your and your bigot buddies will never suceed. The clock will never be turned back to give you and your evil satanic racists pig partners any power again, except within your own limited little world.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

And my point, precisely, is that because you don't give a... damn, doesn't mean that no one else should be allowed to. You have the right to think it is meaningless, and others of us have the right to think it matters.

As for me, I didn't think adultery was irrelevant with Clinton, I don't think it is irrelevant with King, and I don't think it is irrelevant with anyone else for that matter.

I didnt say it was meaningless, or irrelevant, or I dont give a damn. What I said, is without further info, I cant make a value judgement on it one way or the other. Thats all.

I take adultry quite serious, MOST of the time. There are exceptions where I dont see a problem with it.

 

[NATO AIR]

get a grip and take your meds before you blindly go off!

I took my meds and still think you're a freaking coward, more like a spiteful lemming of hatred than a storm trooping nazi.

The storm trooping nazis in this discussion is the leadership of the FBI at the time, which pursued a relentless campaign of misinformation, bigotry, destruction and fearmongering to destroy the civil rights movement and everyone within it.

That they failed despite the heavy price they inflicted on America and the black community in particular is a testament to the incompetence of tyranny when it is committed by a group of fascists operating in a democratic system that cannot long tolerate their crimes.

Again, we're not here to paint him as a personal saint.

However, in the public arena, from leading a nonviolent movement of Americans long denied their natural rights to working together with millions of other Americans who wanted to redeem their nation's greatness and secure its future, Martin Luther King was a "saint". Without him, our nation could not have had the relatively peaceful natural rights revolution it experienced from '56 to '65. Without him, our glorious history from that time would not be studied and admired by students from around the world, but criticized and abhorred for the suffering and death toll involved.

He's a far greater leader and human being than you and your ilk will or could ever be. Take your self-loathing and your hatred back under your bridge where it (and you) belongs.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

You boys really need to do some more reading and get out more. Find some refuting evidence, but don't just spew reactionary insult.

Do you guys not question where the very concept of political correctness and self hatred come from? The Academically approved "white guilt" movements?

http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/Whiteness/

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Look who academics are. They're thought police. Look at their propaganda against honesty and true idealogical diversity. This is their take on the academic bill of rights. These nazis are molding our youth.

http://www.aaup.org/Issues/ABOR/facultyhandout.htm
Summary of the "Academic Bill of Rights" Proposals

"The Academic Bill of Rights ... threatens to impose administrative and legislative oversight on the professional judgment of faculty, to deprive professors of the authority necessary for teaching, and to prohibit academic institutions from making the decisions that are necessary for the advancement of knowledge... The AAUP has consistently held that academic freedom can only be maintained so long as faculty remain autonomous and self-governing." (Most responses in this section are drawn from the AAUP Statement on the Academic Bill of Rights, available on the AAUP web site, above.)

The "Academic Bill of Rights" proposals list the following rights:

A right of "access to a broad range of serious scholarly opinion." This section states that institutions should foster a "plurality of serious scholarly methodologies and perspectives." The problem, according to the AAUP Statement, is that "it invites diversity to be measured by political standards that diverge from the academic criteria of the scholarly profession. Measured in this way, diversity can easily become contradictory to academic ends."

 

[Said1]

Actually, the articles sited by Garrow in the original link posted by AA were quite good. I'd question King's literacy and the fact that professors approved of his work, while knowing full well it was copied. The author metions his ability to memorize large volumes of material needed for sermons, however those who can not read are often able to do just that. It's an interesting point. The author also does not discredit King's mission and role in the civil rights movement, nor does make far reaching excuses for his behavior.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

You boys really need to do some more reading and get out more. Find some refuting evidence, but don't just spew reactionary insult.

Do you guys not question where the very concept of political correctness and self hatred come from? The Academically approved "white guilt" movements?

http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/Whiteness/

I'm sorry, I'm not seeing any MLK connection. Help a brother out.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

I took my meds and still think you're a freaking coward, more like a spiteful lemming of hatred than a storm trooping nazi.

The storm trooping nazis in this discussion is the leadership of the FBI at the time, which pursued a relentless campaign of misinformation, bigotry, destruction and fearmongering to destroy the civil rights movement and everyone within it.

That they failed despite the heavy price they inflicted on America and the black community in particular is a testament to the incompetence of tyranny when it is committed by a group of fascists operating in a democratic system that cannot long tolerate their crimes.

Again, we're not here to paint him as a personal saint.

However, in the public arena, from leading a nonviolent movement of Americans long denied their natural rights to working together with millions of other Americans who wanted to redeem their nation's greatness and secure its future, Martin Luther King was a "saint". Without him, our nation could not have had the relatively peaceful natural rights revolution it experienced from '56 to '65. Without him, our glorious history from that time would not be studied and admired by students from around the world, but criticized and abhorred for the suffering and death toll involved.

He's a far greater leader and human being than you and your ilk will or could ever be. Take your self-loathing and your hatred back under your bridge where it (and you) belongs.

Hey, give me some of your meds bro. If I take enough, I might actually get arch into my list of humans.

Alot of people make the mistake of labeling groups from then and confusing them with their "ways" today. Like RWA appears to be doing with some.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Hey, give me some of your meds bro. If I take enough, I might actually get arch into my list of humans.

Alot of people make the mistake of labeling groups from them and confusing them with their "ways" today. Like RWA appears to be doing with some.

Who's them and what ways are you talking about?

Enlighten us!

 

[archangel]

I took my meds and still think you're a freaking coward, more like a spiteful lemming of hatred than a storm trooping nazi.


are just plain weird...you take upon your shoulders a discussion about MLK and links as if it were directed toward you personally...you call others names although they just pointed the direction toward a different perspective...I'm truly amazed you made it this far through life...if you disagree fine...let's see your refuting evidence rather than editing given link info to suite your demented need to justify whatever it is you are trying to say!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

...rather than editing given link info to suite your demented need to justify whatever it is you are trying to say...

Well, at least he's capable of understanding the point we're trying to make. It's too bad he can't apply it to his own sources.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

Who's them and what ways are you talking about?

Enlighten us!

Typo, should read "from THEN.." I will go back and edit.
thanks,,,ron

 

[LuvRPgrl]

I took my meds and still think you're a freaking coward, more like a spiteful lemming of hatred than a storm trooping nazi.


are just plain weird...you take upon your shoulders a discussion about MLK and links as if it were directed toward you personally...you call others names although they just pointed the direction toward a different perspective...I'm truly amazed you made it this far through life...if you disagree fine...let's see your refuting evidence rather than editing given link info to suite your demented need to justify whatever it is you are trying to say!

Yea, once people hit the "vile and evil" part of my judgement meter, at least on a particular issue, then I have no problem resorting to name calling.

But I dont leave it at that, I give reasons behind it.

My links are your links, I USED YOUR MATERIAL FOR THE MOST PART. Its quite damning.

Those people would just assume lynch me as let me stay married to my wife. GOOD LUCK. Let them try, not only would I fuck em up, but my son would wipe a few of their asses on the ground too.

You really should see "American History X"

If you guys dont like a multicultural society, go find an island.

 

[trobinett]

Pretty interesting thread!

I`m just an old country boy, living in the Ozarks of Arkansas. Don`t really care if someone wants to make a holiday, or not.

Last time I checked this was a free country.

I don`t choose to treat MLK day any different than any other day.

Far as I`m concerned, the more holidays the better.

I own my own business, could use a few more holidays to call my own.

Would be nice to have a holiday named after Harley Davidson, now that would be a kick ass holiday, hell I might take a week off for that one.

 

[archangel]

Yea, once people hit the "vile and evil" part of my judgement meter, at least on a particular issue, then I have no problem resorting to name calling.

But I dont leave it at that, I give reasons behind it.

My links are your links, I USED YOUR MATERIAL FOR THE MOST PART. Its quite damning.

Those people would just assume lynch me as let me stay married to my wife. GOOD LUCK. Let them try, not only would I fuck em up, but my son would wipe a few of their asses on the ground too.

You really should see "American History X"

If you guys dont like a multicultural society, go find an island.

I did not write the articles...and you chose to post and comment on links that I did not use as examples....sure there were some off the cuff links at the site posted, that you are referring too,however I did not use them...Just one article with sources cited! I then gave other links to substaniate the original article posted...you and NATO went off not me!And this has nothing to do with a multicultural society...Just one man...MLK...who may have did some good...but the overall view was the issue...plagerism and affiliation with the Communist Party,USA and his womanizing!