Do you believe in God and why or why not?

[Lumpy 1]

There is no "supernatural," nature is supreme.

You cant say that with certainity.

As certainly as you can say that there is no super God above your God.

God per se means allmighty so there cant be a super god above my God but maybe there are different supernatural beings like spirits and demons etc. all with more or less power. So in a sense there might be super and god (etc.) but by definition god is already supreme. I cant say anything with certainity but neither can you.

You are entitled to believe your superstitions, but did you ever consider that a super God made the rule that the Christian God had to sacrifice his son?

when you say "superstition" that sounds as if you are belittling my believe and i take that as offensive as if you are much smarter then me or better for not believing in it. You are entitled to your belief too however.

edthecynic is completely intolerant, it's really that simple...

 

[S.J.]

There is definitely a God.

 

[edthecynic]

There is definitely a God.

Well that settles it.

 

[S.J.]

There is definitely a God.

Well that settles it.

I wasn't talking to you.

 

[Boss]

I believe in a allmighty creator of heaven and earth and the whole universe or multiple universes. My believe stems from the hope that one day I will live forever in heaven without any suffering and be reunited with my father, my grandparents, my uncles etc. and everyone who will pass before me and I hope I follow them one day into heaven. I also like the idea that all humans are created in the image of God and have a soul, that all humans have a soul, and that we are all brothers and sister descendt from Adam and Eve. I dislike the idea that we are only the result of biochemic processes, like biological robots. I hope we have more in us then only our biology and neurons and chemical processes, that we have something eternal and God like in us, that we have a Soul.

What I believe in is not "God" in the traditional sense. I believe in a spiritual energy or force that surrounds us and is present all across the universe. This energy flows in a positive direction toward good and away from evil, toward light and away from dark. It created us as it created everything material in our universe as well as all the parameters of our universe. It has bestowed us with the ability to be aware of it and we are, although, we don't understand it.

Because we are humans and all we can relate to are humanistic concepts and material things in a physical universe, it is difficult for us to rationalize this energy force. We apply our terminology... like, for instance... "intelligent designer" ...but maybe "intelligent" is nowhere near the adequate term for what the spiritual force uses? Maybe that is simply the closest monkey grunt we can make to define it? Maybe "energy force" is inadequate as well? Nevertheless, we are humans and so we develop incarnations of "God" in our own image... meaning, we bestow upon God the attributes we think a God would have... compassion and love, or jealousy and anger, needs and wants, pleasure and displeasure... Why would an omnipotent and omniscient entity need any of these human attributes?

Now... While I don't believe in an Abrahamic God, I find very little problem with true Christians. The doctrine of Jesus Christ is a doctrine of love and forgiveness. It poses no threat to anyone, it never has.

 

[Dr Grump]

The evil done to Christ is for Jews to figure out. Not me. This is their part of the puzzle. Hey I'm rocking on Islam with Jesus and trying to get a grip on that too.

Why Jews?

 

[Dr Grump]

Total non-believer...

 

[The Great Goose]

I believe in Jesus because I was brought up to.

 

[gtopa1]

I believe in God because I want to.

Greg

 

[edthecynic]

There is definitely a God.

Well that settles it.

I wasn't talking to you.

this is a PUBLIC messageboard.

 

[tyroneweaver]

I believe in a allmighty creator of heaven and earth and the whole universe or multiple universes. My believe stems from the hope that one day I will live forever in heaven without any suffering and be reunited with my father, my grandparents, my uncles etc. and everyone who will pass before me and I hope I follow them one day into heaven. I also like the idea that all humans are created in the image of God and have a soul, that all humans have a soul, and that we are all brothers and sister descendt from Adam and Eve. I dislike the idea that we are only the result of biochemic processes, like biological robots. I hope we have more in us then only our biology and neurons and chemical processes, that we have something eternal and God like in us, that we have a Soul.

Not at all.

However I'm the sort of person who doesn't say something is so until there is evidence to show that it is not so.

However if it's a choice between living my life wasting my time bowing down to someone who hasn't be proven to exist, or just getting on with my life in the way I feel is best for me, then I'll choose the second one.

People say God exists. People say he exists because the Universe is sooooo complex it has to have been created by some kind of God like being. But then I put the argument that if the Universe is so complex and has been created by something, then this something has to be complex too, and therefore also has to have been created by something complex too.

So who created God?

Personally my view is that people have always been willing to believe. It's a human trait. We create gods and then we created a single God. We know this happened. We know that in Egypt Monotheism was developed by Pharaohs and many of the Pharaohs were almost wiped from history because those who believed in multiple gods didn't like it, and changed it when they could.

But for some reason the more advanced we got, the more convenient it has become to have one God. It means everyone can be brought together under one system, rather than some praying to this god, or that god, and the powers that want to control us, would get it easy.

It's kind of like US politics with two parties, it's easy for the money men to control them, whereas countries like Germany where they have more parties, it's much harder to do. Politicians find it harder to just talk nonsense and everyone to believe them, though it still happens.

So religion has just been convenient. The Incas believed in gods, the Mayans believed in god, those in the Pacific Islands believed in gods, the Chinese believed in gods, the Indians, the Africans, the Europeans, and it all took on a different manner of doing so, but what was universal was the believing in something, and if we pray to it we can have favor from it.

But we know it's not true. People pray and they die, they suffer, they get it bad, those who don't get it good. Look at Trump, he's not religious at all, he's as rich as anything, while there are religious people who have rubbish lives.

I'll use your global warming argument.
You have no proof God doesn't exist.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I believe in a allmighty creator of heaven and earth and the whole universe or multiple universes. My believe stems from the hope that one day I will live forever in heaven without any suffering and be reunited with my father, my grandparents, my uncles etc. and everyone who will pass before me and I hope I follow them one day into heaven. I also like the idea that all humans are created in the image of God and have a soul, that all humans have a soul, and that we are all brothers and sister descendt from Adam and Eve. I dislike the idea that we are only the result of biochemic processes, like biological robots. I hope we have more in us then only our biology and neurons and chemical processes, that we have something eternal and God like in us, that we have a Soul.

Not at all.

However I'm the sort of person who doesn't say something is so until there is evidence to show that it is not so.

However if it's a choice between living my life wasting my time bowing down to someone who hasn't be proven to exist, or just getting on with my life in the way I feel is best for me, then I'll choose the second one.

People say God exists. People say he exists because the Universe is sooooo complex it has to have been created by some kind of God like being. But then I put the argument that if the Universe is so complex and has been created by something, then this something has to be complex too, and therefore also has to have been created by something complex too.

So who created God?

Personally my view is that people have always been willing to believe. It's a human trait. We create gods and then we created a single God. We know this happened. We know that in Egypt Monotheism was developed by Pharaohs and many of the Pharaohs were almost wiped from history because those who believed in multiple gods didn't like it, and changed it when they could.

But for some reason the more advanced we got, the more convenient it has become to have one God. It means everyone can be brought together under one system, rather than some praying to this god, or that god, and the powers that want to control us, would get it easy.

It's kind of like US politics with two parties, it's easy for the money men to control them, whereas countries like Germany where they have more parties, it's much harder to do. Politicians find it harder to just talk nonsense and everyone to believe them, though it still happens.

So religion has just been convenient. The Incas believed in gods, the Mayans believed in god, those in the Pacific Islands believed in gods, the Chinese believed in gods, the Indians, the Africans, the Europeans, and it all took on a different manner of doing so, but what was universal was the believing in something, and if we pray to it we can have favor from it.

But we know it's not true. People pray and they die, they suffer, they get it bad, those who don't get it good. Look at Trump, he's not religious at all, he's as rich as anything, while there are religious people who have rubbish lives.

I'll use your global warming argument.
You have no proof God doesn't exist.

I said that. Read what I wrote, jeez, incredible that people try and catch you out on something you actually said.

 

[gtopa1]

I believe in a allmighty creator of heaven and earth and the whole universe or multiple universes. My believe stems from the hope that one day I will live forever in heaven without any suffering and be reunited with my father, my grandparents, my uncles etc. and everyone who will pass before me and I hope I follow them one day into heaven. I also like the idea that all humans are created in the image of God and have a soul, that all humans have a soul, and that we are all brothers and sister descendt from Adam and Eve. I dislike the idea that we are only the result of biochemic processes, like biological robots. I hope we have more in us then only our biology and neurons and chemical processes, that we have something eternal and God like in us, that we have a Soul.

Not at all.

However I'm the sort of person who doesn't say something is so until there is evidence to show that it is not so.

However if it's a choice between living my life wasting my time bowing down to someone who hasn't be proven to exist, or just getting on with my life in the way I feel is best for me, then I'll choose the second one.

People say God exists. People say he exists because the Universe is sooooo complex it has to have been created by some kind of God like being. But then I put the argument that if the Universe is so complex and has been created by something, then this something has to be complex too, and therefore also has to have been created by something complex too.

So who created God?

Personally my view is that people have always been willing to believe. It's a human trait. We create gods and then we created a single God. We know this happened. We know that in Egypt Monotheism was developed by Pharaohs and many of the Pharaohs were almost wiped from history because those who believed in multiple gods didn't like it, and changed it when they could.

But for some reason the more advanced we got, the more convenient it has become to have one God. It means everyone can be brought together under one system, rather than some praying to this god, or that god, and the powers that want to control us, would get it easy.

It's kind of like US politics with two parties, it's easy for the money men to control them, whereas countries like Germany where they have more parties, it's much harder to do. Politicians find it harder to just talk nonsense and everyone to believe them, though it still happens.

So religion has just been convenient. The Incas believed in gods, the Mayans believed in god, those in the Pacific Islands believed in gods, the Chinese believed in gods, the Indians, the Africans, the Europeans, and it all took on a different manner of doing so, but what was universal was the believing in something, and if we pray to it we can have favor from it.

But we know it's not true. People pray and they die, they suffer, they get it bad, those who don't get it good. Look at Trump, he's not religious at all, he's as rich as anything, while there are religious people who have rubbish lives.

I'll use your global warming argument.
You have no proof God doesn't exist.

If one had proof then one wouldn't have faith.

Greg

 

[Skull Pilot]

No.

I don't because i wasn't brainwashed into thinking there was a magic man in the sky

 

[gtopa1]

No.

I don't because i wasn't brainwashed into thinking there was a magic man in the sky

Neither was I. Nothing magic about God.

Greg

 

[sealybobo]

I believe in a allmighty creator of heaven and earth and the whole universe or multiple universes. My believe stems from the hope that one day I will live forever in heaven without any suffering and be reunited with my father, my grandparents, my uncles etc. and everyone who will pass before me and I hope I follow them one day into heaven. I also like the idea that all humans are created in the image of God and have a soul, that all humans have a soul, and that we are all brothers and sister descendt from Adam and Eve. I dislike the idea that we are only the result of biochemic processes, like biological robots. I hope we have more in us then only our biology and neurons and chemical processes, that we have something eternal and God like in us, that we have a Soul.

You don't believe you hope. It's called wishful thinking.

 

[sealybobo]

Not superstitious.

Superstitious seems like a derogatory word for religious or spiritual. That makes me think you dont like religion at all or supernatural beliefs.

There is no "supernatural," nature is supreme.

You cant say that with certainity.

And because we can't say it with certainty, you believe whatever you want?

 

[Lumpy 1]

 

[IsaacNewton]

I believe in a allmighty creator of heaven and earth and the whole universe or multiple universes. My believe stems from the hope that one day I will live forever in heaven without any suffering and be reunited with my father, my grandparents, my uncles etc. and everyone who will pass before me and I hope I follow them one day into heaven. I also like the idea that all humans are created in the image of God and have a soul, that all humans have a soul, and that we are all brothers and sister descendt from Adam and Eve. I dislike the idea that we are only the result of biochemic processes, like biological robots. I hope we have more in us then only our biology and neurons and chemical processes, that we have something eternal and God like in us, that we have a Soul.

Fortunately you will not be disappointed because when you die there will be no more you. You will not know how you were tricked. There will be no more "you" to experience anything.

Having endured a time fighting hell on this planet with my dogs at my side I can tell you straight up there are forces that are bigger than you and I. Long story but my dogs saved our souls in a hell house that we bought. Our catahoulas well they were unreal against forces you can't even dream of. We owned this house. The dogs saved us. Long story.

What? Your dogs fought off ghosts? What are you talking about.

 

[sealybobo]

I believe in a allmighty creator of heaven and earth and the whole universe or multiple universes. My believe stems from the hope that one day I will live forever in heaven without any suffering and be reunited with my father, my grandparents, my uncles etc. and everyone who will pass before me and I hope I follow them one day into heaven. I also like the idea that all humans are created in the image of God and have a soul, that all humans have a soul, and that we are all brothers and sister descendt from Adam and Eve. I dislike the idea that we are only the result of biochemic processes, like biological robots. I hope we have more in us then only our biology and neurons and chemical processes, that we have something eternal and God like in us, that we have a Soul.

Fortunately you will not be disappointed because when you die there will be no more you. You will not know how you were tricked. There will be no more "you" to experience anything.

Having endured a time fighting hell on this planet with my dogs at my side I can tell you straight up there are forces that are bigger than you and I. Long story but my dogs saved our souls in a hell house that we bought. Our catahoulas well they were unreal against forces you can't even dream of. We owned this house. The dogs saved us. Long story.

What? Your dogs fought off ghosts? What are you talking about.

Superstitious people seem so dumb to me.

I want to see a ghost so bad and I taunt them to show themselves but they never do.

It's like God. In order to see him you have to believe first. So the easiest thing to do if you are afraid of ghosts is stop believing they exist