Do Ebola Protocols Work For Health Care Workers? No, Failure Rate Is Extremely High: 50% to 100%

[Darp]

100% ineffectiveness would suggest that every medical worker who comes into contact with an Ebola stricken patient would be infected.

So far we've had 4 people come to the United States with Ebola and one person has been infected via those 4 people. There have likely been dozens of people treating these patients, meaning the Ebola protocols are pretty damn effective.

Only three have been here long enough to infect people. The infection rate is per patient. It is possible to have over 100% infection rate. The burial of one witch doctor in Liberia resulted in 14 Ebola deaths. Only one, Duncan, was not recovering. Only one is in early stages and very sick. The infected doctor walked into the hospital he was so recovered, watch the video.

The in the USA and in Spain infection rate is 100% for very sick Ebola patients being treated. That is amazing and bad news.

BTW the nurses are pushing back as they should. They are right now raising a ruckus about her being blamed with zero evidence she broke the rules.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[Darp]

1. The first American to catch Ebola in the outbreak is Dr. Kent Brantly. The 33-year-old family doctor from Fort Worth, Texas, was infected while treating patients in Monrovia, the nonprofit Samaritan’s Purse.

Brantly thinks he contracted Ebola from when he was working in the ER, where the Ebola protocols are not in effect.

That is one guess. And indeed with no protective gear it is more dangerous. However G5000 your other comment, like Obama and CDC, is self defeating circular logic. "They must not have followed the protocols" OK if one always deals with failures that way then even if 5,000 healthworkers caught Ebola in a row, you could just keep on saying the same thing.

You have zero evidence to support the proposition the protocols failed. You have not eliminated all other possibilities.

Currently with the truly sick Ebola cases the failure rate of the protocols is 100%. 0 for 2.

Again, you have not eliminated all the possibilities. You have leapt to an unsupported conclusion. And that can literally be a fatal mistake.

And to present people who aren't even medical workers as evidence the protocols aren't working demonstrates your inability to think critically about this matter.

There is NO evidence that the Spanish nurse or the American nurse violated protocols. NONE.

1. The first American to catch Ebola in the outbreak is Dr. Kent Brantly. The 33-year-old family doctor from Fort Worth, Texas, was infected while treating patients in Monrovia, the nonprofit Samaritan’s Purse.

Brantly thinks he contracted Ebola from when he was working in the ER, where the Ebola protocols are not in effect.

That is one guess. And indeed with no protective gear it is more dangerous. However G5000 your other comment, like Obama and CDC, is self defeating circular logic. "They must not have followed the protocols" OK if one always deals with failures that way then even if 5,000 healthworkers caught Ebola in a row, you could just keep on saying the same thing.

You have zero evidence to support the proposition the protocols failed. You have not eliminated all other possibilities.

Currently with the truly sick Ebola cases the failure rate of the protocols is 100%. 0 for 2.

Again, you have not eliminated all the possibilities. You have leapt to an unsupported conclusion. And that can literally be a fatal mistake.

And to present people who aren't even medical workers as evidence the protocols aren't working demonstrates your inability to think critically about this matter.

There is NO evidence that the Spanish nurse or the American nurse violated protocols. NONE.

its easier just to say protocol failed than it is to offer any evidence of ANY kind ... all those poor people who were infected at the Hospital ... shame that/

I agree if understand you. In the real world, which is the only one we get to live in, the protocols are not working.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[Darp]

1. The first American to catch Ebola in the outbreak is Dr. Kent Brantly. The 33-year-old family doctor from Fort Worth, Texas, was infected while treating patients in Monrovia, the nonprofit Samaritan’s Purse.

Brantly thinks he contracted Ebola from when he was working in the ER, where the Ebola protocols are not in effect.

That is one guess. And indeed with no protective gear it is more dangerous. However G5000 your other comment, like Obama and CDC, is self defeating circular logic. "They must not have followed the protocols" OK if one always deals with failures that way then even if 5,000 healthworkers caught Ebola in a row, you could just keep on saying the same thing.

You have zero evidence to support the proposition the protocols failed. You have not eliminated all other possibilities.

Currently with the truly sick Ebola cases the failure rate of the protocols is 100%. 0 for 2.

Again, you have not eliminated all the possibilities. You have leapt to an unsupported conclusion. And that can literally be a fatal mistake.

And to present people who aren't even medical workers as evidence the protocols aren't working demonstrates your inability to think critically about this matter.

There is NO evidence that the Spanish nurse or the American nurse violated protocols. NONE.

That is right, the shoot first and ask questions later approach of CDC is unscientific. Nurses are pushing back right now about guilty till proven innocent. And for the record if a medical news crew cameraman gets Ebola for unknown reasons, our troops should NOT be sent. JMHO its airborne.

 

[Siete]

everyone ( especially all you RW's) stay away from Ebola patients and hold your damn breath at the same time .. in less than 5 minutes you'll never be afraid of Ebola ever again.

didn't break protocol ..

Nurse with Ebola reportedly received blood transfusion from Ebol - Dallas News myFOXdfw.com

next neocon - testant

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Source story with pics and video: Do Ebola Protocols Work For Health Care Workers No Failure Rate Is Extremely High 50 to 100 So Far AUN-TV

What we have been told about Ebola and what has happened is a night and day difference.
The CDC, WHO, and Obama have all told us there is no danger of an Ebola patient infecting others in hospitals. That the Ebola protocols are 100% effective, that health care workers that use the protocols will not get it. So it is safe to transport Ebola patients to countries like the USA or to Spain and treat them. And they have been transported as a result of this policy.
Yet one hospital in Liberia had to be shut down because so many Ebola experts, doctors and nurses, died from Ebola!

AUN-TV has written an article about that:
Ebola Shuts Down The Oldest Hospital In Liberia
But in the Liberian capital Monrovia, Ebola has silenced St. Joseph’s Catholic Hospital. It is completely shut.
Samuel Bowman, 72, is the medical director of the facility. When we met today outside his living quarters at the back of the hospital compound, Bowman had just heard on the radio that Father Miguel Pajares, a Spanish priest who worked at St. Joseph’s and contracted Ebola, had died in a Madrid hospital, where he’d been evacuated.
Bowman says St. Joseph’s wasn’t even supposed to treat Ebola patients, but some ended up on its wards. “In the process, our hospital director became infected by one of the patients,” Bowman says. “He has subsequently died. And those who had direct contact with him. They got infected.”
Bowman counts off on his fingers those others infected: “A brother, two sisters, two of our staff nurses, the social worker. And a laboratory technician.” http://aun-tv.com/2014/09/if-ebola-is-not-airborne-transmitted-why-are-the-doctors-getting-it/

So Ebola experts, who know their lives are great risk if they do not follow the protocols exactly, died from Ebola so fast it shut down the hospital. There were not enough Ebola experts left alive to operate the hospital. What does that say about they Ebola protocols that the CDC and Obama says are “bulletproof”?
Common sense says the protocols are not only not bulletproof, they are generally ineffective. So what has the CDC and WHO had to say about this? They blame it on the dead Ebola experts. That in Liberia they must not have actually followed the protocols. With no evidence to back it up.
But if Ebola patients were brought to America or a Western European country like Spain, there would be no infections at hospitals, it was safe. So Ebola Patients have been flown to the USA and Spain for treatment and one did it on his own.
How many have been brought to America or Spain, the two advanced countries that have treated Ebola patients? The number appears to be six, but it is hard to tell as there is so much secrecy about Ebola. If you search Google for a list of all Americans that have been infected with Ebola, there seems to be no list. So AUN-TV will do our best to do so now.
1. The first American to catch Ebola in the outbreak is Dr. Kent Brantly. The 33-year-old family doctor from Fort Worth, Texas, was infected while treating patients in Monrovia, the nonprofit Samaritan’s Purse.

2. The second American to catch the disease in Liberia is missionary Nancy Writebol, of Charlotte, N.C. She and her husband have also been working with Samaritan’s Purse to help Ebola patients in Monrovia.

3. The third American Ebola case is 33-year-old NBC cameraman Ashoka Mukpo, was taken to Nebraska Medical Center for treatment. He was infected after a short time in Liberia by unknown means. Airborne infection is suspected. He was part of a Ebola expert NBC crew led by Dr. Nancy Snyderman, NBC News chief medical editor and correspondent. She apparently went on a take-out run to a restaurant in New Jersey for soup. If Snyderman did go to the restaurant, she may have placed dozens of people at risk, because Snyderman and her entire crew were supposed to be under quarantine.

4. The fourth case just happened. A Dallas female nurse who treated Ebola patient Thomas Duncan who flew here from Liberia, has contracted Ebola. Her name has been kept secret which makes no sense. If Obama had shut off flights for people coming from Ebola areas, as many countries have done, this nurse would have never caught Ebola.

5. There is a fifth case of an Ebola patient being treated in an medically advanced country, the Spanish doctor and Priest Rev. Miguel Pajares.

6. And there is a sixth case, Thomas Duncan, the Liberian that flew to Texas without showing any symptoms. Then was treated in a Dallas hospital for Ebola.

Of these six cases that test the CDC, Obama and WHO’s assertion that the Ebola protocols totally work, only four cases that have been in a hospital long enough to tell if health workers following the protocols will get or not get Ebola. That is Dr. Kent Brantly, Nancy Writebol, Rev. Miguel Pajares, and Thomas Duncan. Of the four only Pajares and Duncan were in bad condition when admitted to the hospital. For example Brantly walked into the hospital already mostly recovered fr0m Ebola.
So we have a fair test for the CDC, WHO and Obama in regard to their claims of the safety of the protocols, which they say are 100% effective. What are the results?
Of all Ebola patients in the hospital long enough for initial Ebola cases to develop, the transmission rate per treatment is two of four, or 50%. For severely ill Ebola patients the infection rate is 100%, the Spanish and the Dallas nurses. It is very possible it will be more than 100%, that for every severely ill Ebola patient more than one healthy health care worker will be infected.
So the results in optimum conditions is the Ebola protocols are 0% to 50% effective. The results are so terrible it is hard to grasp.

Note: in preview the pics are showing but the video placed here disappears.
One way of looking at it is that would you use a parachute to skydive that has a 0% to 50% chance of opening?
The Ebola protocols are better than no protection. How is it possible that the protocols are so ineffective? It may because Ebola is airborne, being transmitted through the air. The CDC, WHO and Obama claim this is impossible, yet Canadian and a USA government studies say Ebola is air transmitted. Those studies are being hidden from the American people. http://aun-tv.com/2014/10/ebola-proven-in-medical-studies-to-be-air-transmitted-the-studies-they-do-not-want-you-to-read/
Tom Frieden the Director of the CDC has both claimed the Ebola protocols are totally effective then said in the same news conference that it is very easy to inadvertently break them and not know it. That it is very hard to follow the protocols. If as Frieden says the Ebola protocols are very hard to follow, then they are not effective. His accidental double speak is irrational. He also claims with zero evidence that he knows for sure that the Dallas nurse broke the protocols, yet says he has no idea how she got Ebola. The truth is no one knows how she got it and if the protocols were broken or not. The infection is a mystery. Frieden has lost so much credibility he should resign. He was visibly shaken in his news conference as the news refutes what he has been claiming about Ebola.

I have pasted in most of the article with pictures and video, but they seem to get stripped out. Here is the source article with pics and video: http://aun-tv.com/2014/10/do-ebola-protocols-work-for-health-care-workers-no-failure-rate-is-extremely-high-50-to-100-so-far/

Treating communicable diseases is never 'safe.' That word should never appear in medicine. Banking yes, medicine no. And the LAST people to be talking about protocol safety right now is CDC after the anthrax fiasco recently. That said, with ebola, it's safer than other things since the mechanism for transmitting the infection requires physical contact. If the mechanism were like other things and airborne I'd be more concerned.

 

[Rotagilla]

read the part where I proved Ebola isn't contracted from air borne spoor ... cheap shots you say? yeah, RW's aren't capable of cheap shots, my bad.

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They can't prove whether or not it is airborne yet..It may be.
All viruses mutate...all it takes is ebola getting into the lungs and it becomes airborne.
Even the CDC has "adjusted" their information...
Q As on Transmission Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever CDC

Q&As on Transmission
What are body fluids?
Ebola has been detected in blood and many body fluids. Body fluids include saliva, mucus, vomit, feces, sweat, tears, breast milk, urine, and semen.

Can Ebola spread by coughing? By sneezing?
Unlike respiratory illnesses like measles or chickenpox, which can be transmitted by virus particles that remain suspended in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, transmitted by direct contact with body fluids of a person who has symptoms of Ebola disease. Although coughing and sneezing are not common symptoms of Ebola, if a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person’s eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease.

What does “direct contact” mean?
Direct contact means that body fluids (blood, saliva, mucus, vomit, urine, or feces) from an infected person (alive or dead) have touched someone’s eyes, nose, or mouth or an open cut, wound, or abrasion.

How long does Ebola live outside the body?
Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants (such as household bleach). Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.

Are patients who recover from Ebola immune for life? Can they get it again - the same or a different strain?
Recovery from Ebola depends on good supportive clinical care and a patient’s immune response. Available evidence shows that people who recover from Ebola infection develop antibodies that last for at least 10 years, possibly longer.

We don’t know if people who recover are immune for life or if they can become infected with a different species of Ebola.

If someone survives Ebola, can he or she still spread the virus?
Once someone recovers from Ebola, they can no longer spread the virus. However, Ebola virus has been found in semen for up to 3 months. People who recover from Ebola are advised to abstain from sex or use condoms for 3 months.

Can Ebola be spread through mosquitos?
There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus. Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys and apes) have shown the ability to spread and become infected with Ebola virus.