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In what way has deregulated capitalism lost millions of jobs?
The Impact of the September 2008 Economic Collapse - The Pew Charitable Trusts
Jobs 5.5 million more American jobs were lost due to slower economic growth during the financial crisis than what was predicted by the September 2008 CBO forecast.
So now your contention is that deregulation caused the housing bubble and subsequent crash? It's amusing how you manage to totally ignore the part that regulations that LED to the housing bubble don't seem to come into play in your viewpoint of what caused the economic meltdown. Giving home loans to people that normally would have had a hard time qualifying as rental tenants is suddenly a conservative initiative? Really? It's tragic that bankers...a part of our system that were always characterized BY their being conservative...were coerced into making sub-prime loans by pressure from the Government...loans that wouldn't have even been considered by competent bankers a generation ago.
The program that FDR put into place was to cover the elderly for the last few years of their lives. At the time Social Security was introduced the average life span of an American was 58 years for a man and 62 for a woman with the retirement age being 65. Social Security in modern day America is NOT "successful" because the numbers from back in 1930 are no longer in play in 2010. The people paying in for Social Security now will not match the massive number of Baby Boomers taking out of the system as they live many years longer than those folks did back in the 30's. That you choose not to address that as a problem explains why YOU are flailing badly in this debate.
Much of liberalism is based on premises that aren't workable in the real world. Social Security as it is currently constituted is one more of those.
Do you seriously believe that SS today is identical to what was enacted back in the 1930's and that no adjustments have been made to allow for longer lifespans?
Removing the income cap on SS payments would ensure that it is viable way beyond the lifespan of any Baby Boomer and their children and their grandchildren. Given that this would be a flat tax it should appeal to all conservatives. Why do you have a problem with fully funding a program that works properly? Why do you want to see the elderly spend their declining years in poverty?
There we go again...
Whenever someone points out that the current system isn't going to remain solvent...progressives immediately call for more taxes to prop up said system...and if you're not for that then you hate children, grandma and America.
Just once I'd like to see a liberal on this board who DIDN'T propose an additional tax as the "solution" to what ails this country...
Liberals are just as deeply rooted in their core convictions as conservatives are, Mustang. This notion of yours that conservatives are "rigid" and liberals are "flexible" is laughable.
That doesn't reflect my experience.
In my experience, conservatives rely more on their beliefs (sincerely held, though they may be) that they're not likely to challenge in any meaningful way. Liberals, on the other hand, are quite receptive to new information which may challenge so-called conventional thinking or beliefs.
Tell you what, score higher than me on this test and I will admit you are right about everything you ever posted.
Science and Technology Knowledge Quiz | Pew Research Center
On the other hand, if you score less than me you have to admit I am.
13 out of 13. What surprised me is that there wasn't even ONE question I thought that was worthy of being ON a science quiz.
Perhaps its because liberalism represents intellectual ideas? Perhaps something can be said why political scientists tend to be liberal.
Agreed.
Liberalism by definition means open-mindedness, free-thinking, discovery.
But there is much to be said for a conservative and traditional approach to public safety, economics, and sexuality.
To me a conservative idea would be to protect the community against water pollution and air pollution-- encourage good behavior by offering businesses tax breaks for clean records and innovative solutions.
To me a conservative idea would be to pay your debts. Everyone tighten his belt to pay down the country--those with bigger belts will need to do more tightening.
To me a conservative idea is to teach your children to be responsible, not to engage in sexual activity until they're ready, and if they get pregnant consider adoption along with termination of the pregnancy. Don't have a child you're not ready to care for. If your faith forbids abortion, and you follow those tenets, then get in touch with a good adoption agency.
To me, a conservative idea would be block and close any and all loopholes used by criminals to get guns. Offer sportsmen and hobbyists an easier solution for quick background checks.
Liberals are just as deeply rooted in their core convictions as conservatives are, Mustang. This notion of yours that conservatives are "rigid" and liberals are "flexible" is laughable.
Alas, it IS true. I'm not saying that it's categorically true in every case since there are many people from both sides of the political spectrum who become wedded to beliefs. But as a general rule, liberals tend to be more open-minded to new information. Conservatives tend to be more 'traditional' in all things.
Do you seriously believe that SS today is identical to what was enacted back in the 1930's and that no adjustments have been made to allow for longer lifespans?
Removing the income cap on SS payments would ensure that it is viable way beyond the lifespan of any Baby Boomer and their children and their grandchildren. Given that this would be a flat tax it should appeal to all conservatives. Why do you have a problem with fully funding a program that works properly? Why do you want to see the elderly spend their declining years in poverty?
There we go again...
Whenever someone points out that the current system isn't going to remain solvent...progressives immediately call for more taxes to prop up said system...and if you're not for that then you hate children, grandma and America.
Just once I'd like to see a liberal on this board who DIDN'T propose an additional tax as the "solution" to what ails this country...
Anyone who doesn't understand that the problems of this nation are never going to be solved by stealing grandma's social security has disqualified themselves from engaging in a serious discussion of the issues involved.
Liberals are just as deeply rooted in their core convictions as conservatives are, Mustang. This notion of yours that conservatives are "rigid" and liberals are "flexible" is laughable.
Pro-CHOICE = you decide what's right for your health and your life.
Marriage equality = open minded about homosexuality and the "definition" of marriage.
Gun Ownership = your choice, own a gun if you want, just follow the safety procedures and rules we can all agree upon. Like all rights, the 2nd Amendment is not without reasonable limits and exceptions.
Immigration laws = flexible enforcement, as they're just people willing to do the jobs most Americans won't and then send the money back to their families.
Religious = Your choice. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, worship or don't, it's up to you.
Marijuana = your choice, just don't operate heavy machinery or motor vehicles.
Smoking = your choice. I choose not to damage my lungs, so you'll be asked to step outside.
Drinking = your choice. Be responsible.
VS.
Abortion is murder. No choice. Or very limited.
Homosexuality is an abomination, traditional marriage only, no choice.
Gun Ownership without limits or paperwork no matter what the risk to public safety due to loopholes.
Deport all illegals, no flexibility. In fairness, the GOP may be coming around to a solution at the federal level.
Christianity is the one acceptable religion in the United States. Public policy should be based on Christian family values as defined by evangelicals and conservative Catholics. No choice because this is what the founding fathers wanted. Islam is too dangerous and hostile towards us.
Marijuana = some flexibility here.
Smoking = smokers are discriminated against by health minded liberals.
Drinking = DUI safety stops are unconstitutional.
Do you seriously believe that SS today is identical to what was enacted back in the 1930's and that no adjustments have been made to allow for longer lifespans?
Removing the income cap on SS payments would ensure that it is viable way beyond the lifespan of any Baby Boomer and their children and their grandchildren. Given that this would be a flat tax it should appeal to all conservatives. Why do you have a problem with fully funding a program that works properly? Why do you want to see the elderly spend their declining years in poverty?
There we go again...
Whenever someone points out that the current system isn't going to remain solvent...progressives immediately call for more taxes to prop up said system...and if you're not for that then you hate children, grandma and America.
Just once I'd like to see a liberal on this board who DIDN'T propose an additional tax as the "solution" to what ails this country...
Anyone who doesn't understand that the problems of this nation are never going to be solved by stealing grandma's social security has disqualified themselves from engaging in a serious discussion of the issues involved.
Liberals are just as deeply rooted in their core convictions as conservatives are, Mustang. This notion of yours that conservatives are "rigid" and liberals are "flexible" is laughable.
Alas, it IS true. I'm not saying that it's categorically true in every case since there are many people from both sides of the political spectrum who become wedded to beliefs. But as a general rule, liberals tend to be more open-minded to new information. Conservatives tend to be more 'traditional' in all things.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Liberal pretensions are utterly hilarious.
That doesn't reflect my experience.
In my experience, conservatives rely more on their beliefs (sincerely held, though they may be) that they're not likely to challenge in any meaningful way. Liberals, on the other hand, are quite receptive to new information which may challenge so-called conventional thinking or beliefs.
Tell you what, score higher than me on this test and I will admit you are right about everything you ever posted.
Science and Technology Knowledge Quiz | Pew Research Center
On the other hand, if you score less than me you have to admit I am.
That test does not determine anything about what you two are disputing.
They are high school level questions. I missed one I will admit though. Whether you did or not, I am guessing you are going to say you got a perfect score, am I right? Your record on honesty is pretty bad.
Interesting claim, given that liberals display the deepest and darkest forms of ignorance, dishonesty and bigotry.Agreed.Perhaps its because liberalism represents intellectual ideas? Perhaps something can be said why political scientists tend to be liberal.
Liberalism by definition means open-mindedness, free-thinking, discovery.
Tell you what, score higher than me on this test and I will admit you are right about everything you ever posted.
Science and Technology Knowledge Quiz | Pew Research Center
On the other hand, if you score less than me you have to admit I am.
13 out of 13. What surprised me is that there wasn't even ONE question I thought that was worthy of being ON a science quiz.
you guys are getting dumb.
for 1. I took one of these tests on the net and just pick a number down the line and scored a genius.
for 2. we all can google the shit. if we cared.
That doesn't reflect my experience.
In my experience, conservatives rely more on their beliefs (sincerely held, though they may be) that they're not likely to challenge in any meaningful way. Liberals, on the other hand, are quite receptive to new information which may challenge so-called conventional thinking or beliefs.
Tell you what, score higher than me on this test and I will admit you are right about everything you ever posted.
Science and Technology Knowledge Quiz | Pew Research Center
On the other hand, if you score less than me you have to admit I am.
13 out of 13. What surprised me is that there wasn't even ONE question I thought that was worthy of being ON a science quiz.
Tell you what, score higher than me on this test and I will admit you are right about everything you ever posted.
Science and Technology Knowledge Quiz | Pew Research Center
On the other hand, if you score less than me you have to admit I am.
13 out of 13. What surprised me is that there wasn't even ONE question I thought that was worthy of being ON a science quiz.
The one about antibiotics is the only one I didn't know by the time I was in 15. To be fair, no one knew about it back then, so I don't feel to bad about that.
The part that really surprised me is that only 31% of college grads know that nitrogen is the most prevalent gas in the atmosphere.
Perhaps its because liberalism represents intellectual ideas? Perhaps something can be said why political scientists tend to be liberal.
Alas, it IS true. I'm not saying that it's categorically true in every case since there are many people from both sides of the political spectrum who become wedded to beliefs. But as a general rule, liberals tend to be more open-minded to new information. Conservatives tend to be more 'traditional' in all things.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Liberal pretensions are utterly hilarious.
Seeing both sides of the issue is pretentious?
Tell you what, score higher than me on this test and I will admit you are right about everything you ever posted.
Science and Technology Knowledge Quiz | Pew Research Center
On the other hand, if you score less than me you have to admit I am.
That test does not determine anything about what you two are disputing.
They are high school level questions. I missed one I will admit though. Whether you did or not, I am guessing you are going to say you got a perfect score, am I right? Your record on honesty is pretty bad.
I never said it had anything to do with what we are discussing, did I? The point is that the questions are grade school level, yet I still scored in the 7% range. That says more about our education system and our colleges than it does me.
Why would I miss a questions about science I learned in fifth grade? I am not senile, yet, so my memory still works the way it is supposed to.
For the record, not only did I get all 13 right, it probably took me less than 2 minutes to complete the test. Care to point out all the posts I lied in while you are trying to pretend your art degree in fake science makes you more intellectual than me?
Anyone who doesn't understand that the problems of this nation are never going to be solved by stealing grandma's social security has disqualified themselves from engaging in a serious discussion of the issues involved.
Thing is they don't recuse themselves and the 1st Amendment guarantees them the right to continue braying.
That test does not determine anything about what you two are disputing.
They are high school level questions. I missed one I will admit though. Whether you did or not, I am guessing you are going to say you got a perfect score, am I right? Your record on honesty is pretty bad.
I never said it had anything to do with what we are discussing, did I? The point is that the questions are grade school level, yet I still scored in the 7% range. That says more about our education system and our colleges than it does me.
Why would I miss a questions about science I learned in fifth grade? I am not senile, yet, so my memory still works the way it is supposed to.
For the record, not only did I get all 13 right, it probably took me less than 2 minutes to complete the test. Care to point out all the posts I lied in while you are trying to pretend your art degree in fake science makes you more intellectual than me?
Lol you'll do anything for the smallest of victories won't you?
The fact that you are defining your intelligence based upon a 13 question test is pretty funny. Clearly you are a deeply insecure individual. Sure, windbag, congratulations. You lack a basic understanding of the scientific method, yet you managed a perfect score on a test that you say is made for grade schoolers.
