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I also can't help wondering if they think it is that easy? Because I wouldn't just say "Oh, I can't vote? O, herp-a-derp." I would go do whatever I had to to retain my legal rights.
you don't have a 'legal' right unless you.....follow the process...
so you yourself just decided and said, that you would vote illegally if you had to.....so, why not vote twice? say live or go to school in one state, vote there, and send in a absentee in an other? is that a problem? or just a herp a derp?
Anecdotal at best. Show me the reports of voter fraud from the Departments of state of the various states. If there are cases of voter fraud that could be prevented by requiring a photo I.D. then we'll have something to talk about.The whole voter I.D. argument from the Right is a solution looking for a problem. There just isn't the rampant voter fraud happening.
And when the Republicans applaud this purely political move that erodes rights, they are just keeping the consistency they pride themselves on.
No other ideology consistently erodes rights the way the modern Conservative ideology does.
ok, so let me ask, whats your over and under for "rampant" fraud?
hell, its part of accepted history now that Daly had dead people voting, stuffed ballot boxs and cheated his ass for JFK , so you think things have gotten better?
ensuring everyone is a valid voter is a win win for everyone*shrugs*
Otherwise, it is what it is: a Conservative drum beat to limit the pool of potential voters.
Note I never said "REPUBLICAN". I said CONSERVATIVE. There's a difference between political party and political ideology. Conservatives are the stumbling blocks to freedoms. Always have been and, I presume always will be.
Put this in the balance: how many fraudulent voters will be caught compared to how many voters turned away at the polls due to insufficient I.D.Anecdotal at best. Show me the reports of voter fraud from the Departments of state of the various states. If there are cases of voter fraud that could be prevented by requiring a photo I.D. then we'll have something to talk about.ok, so let me ask, whats your over and under for "rampant" fraud?
hell, its part of accepted history now that Daly had dead people voting, stuffed ballot boxs and cheated his ass for JFK , so you think things have gotten better?
ensuring everyone is a valid voter is a win win for everyone*shrugs*
Otherwise, it is what it is: a Conservative drum beat to limit the pool of potential voters.
so you don't have a benchmark?
Chicago anecdotal?
google Minnesota felons voting in Coleman Franken election..start there, I mean seriously?
let me ask you, rahm decided that folks in Chicago should not eat foi gras anymore....how many geese was that harming out of tens of millions?
Listen up you fucking assholes.
we will not sit and watch you keep Americans from voting.
your going to go down real hard for this REAL SOON
Listen up you fucking assholes.
we will not sit and watch you keep Americans from voting.
your[sic] going to go down real hard for this REAL SOON
ok, nice post. concise and raises some points.
let me ask you then;
One of the following:
Certificate of U.S. Citizenship
Certificate of Naturalization
Valid U.S. Passport
*Birth Certificate with a raised seal
PLUS
Two proofs of **residency such as lease agreements, current utility bills, mortgage documents, W-2 form, tax records
who , does not have at least on of these aside from the SSI card?
and, don't you think its a tad patronizing to assume these folks don't have any of the above? Or maybe......
Not everyone does things in their own best interests, hell, theres over what, a million people that could get their kids on Schip, but don't because, they are just to indolent or non caring to do so *shrugs*some folks just don't give a crap about voting, we got what, 64% of the populace voting last time?....see?
I was on that list for a time. My marriage ended abruptly, I was living with my sister. When I got a job a few weeks later, my driver's license was not enough (and she loaned me the money for that) - I had to pay $10 for my social security card. At some point, I'll need more money for my birth certificate (since I didn't think to grab it on my way out the door).
I have a question. How many decades has this country NOT felt the need to make laws like this?
What's changed.
so how many people do you think have that issue? did you ask to vote provisionally?
whats changed? well for one thing, a guy walked into AG Holders polling place for voting and was actually offered a ballot and an opportunity to vote, he was white to boot......we are choking on data and the system has become a great deal more sophisticated and I dare say the jukers have become smarter......
Note I never said "REPUBLICAN". I said CONSERVATIVE. There's a difference between political party and political ideology. Conservatives are the stumbling blocks to freedoms. Always have been and, I presume always will be.
LOL. democrats love to try this little bit every time they need to hide from their shameful past and irrational present.
Put this in the balance: how many fraudulent voters will be caught compared to how many voters turned away at the polls due to insufficient I.D.Anecdotal at best. Show me the reports of voter fraud from the Departments of state of the various states. If there are cases of voter fraud that could be prevented by requiring a photo I.D. then we'll have something to talk about.
Otherwise, it is what it is: a Conservative drum beat to limit the pool of potential voters.
so you don't have a benchmark?
Chicago anecdotal?
google Minnesota felons voting in Coleman Franken election..start there, I mean seriously?
let me ask you, rahm decided that folks in Chicago should not eat foi gras anymore....how many geese was that harming out of tens of millions?
Which is more damaging to a democratic republic: disenfranchised voters or fraudulent voters?
Listen up you fucking assholes.
we will not sit and watch you keep Americans from voting.
your[sic] going to go down real hard for this REAL SOON
What do you have in mind, Che?
You want to pretend Americans wont talk about your cheating because now for decades the press has hidden it for you.
it wont hide anymore.
go ahead and use your knife.
you put the down payment on it decades ago and have been using paper cuts to get into office.
Now you will have to fully gut yourselves to win.
get to stabbing.
value.
Note I never said "REPUBLICAN". I said CONSERVATIVE. There's a difference between political party and political ideology. Conservatives are the stumbling blocks to freedoms. Always have been and, I presume always will be.
LOL. democrats love to try this little bit every time they need to hide from their shameful past and irrational present.
No, conservatives try the cup and ball trick of Republican/Conservative Democrat/Liberal.
You want to pretend Americans wont talk about your cheating because now for decades the press has hidden it for you.
it wont hide anymore.
go ahead and use your knife.
you put the down payment on it decades ago and have been using paper cuts to get into office.
Now you will have to fully gut yourselves to win.
get to stabbing.
