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I'm pretty sure that nobody argues that Community China or the USSR were socialist. Nobody is arguing that they both were economic failures either. Additionally, nobody (that I've seen here) is saying that socialist structures as implemented by those failures are good or that they are what we should be looking to do. So, other than being disingenuous...why even bring them up?What's your point? Communist China and the Soviet Union were both socialist. Any claims to the contrary are pure moonshine.
What people are pointing out is that countries like Canada, Norway, or New Zealand have have exceptionally large socialist programs and that, those countries and others like them, they seem to be doing quite well. If you want to have a discussion related to anything anybody here is talking about...please refer to what people are actually talking about.
You're talking about socialism, and that includes the USSR and communist China. Any claims to the contrary only show that you don't know jack shit about economics.
Canada, Norway and New Zealand are capitalist countries. Canada and New Zealand are rated higher than the United States on the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom, at least since Obama ascended the throne, anyway.
Calling the USA "capitalist" and calling these other countries "socialist" only demonstrates that either you don't know what you're talking about or you are fundamentally dishonest. The reality is that you're probably a little of both.