Deutsche Bank receives subpoena from Mueller on Trump accounts

You use property as collateral to get a loan...


Kushner firm’s $285 million Deutsche Bank loan came just before Election Day

One month before Election Day, Jared Kushner’s real estate company finalized a $285 million loan as part of a refinancing package for its property near Times Square in Manhattan.


I think Rachel Maddow hammered it home. No American bank is going to loan money to Trump, after he burned them for 900 million dollars by bankrupting 4 casinos.

I think Russian Oligarks own Trump. So when Rachel Maddow is using the sharpy in this video, (as an example) think of Trump casino's, hotels and golf courses around the world.

DEUTSCHE BANK.




if you get your news from madcow, it explains why you are so fricken stupid.
 
You use property as collateral to get a loan...


Kushner firm’s $285 million Deutsche Bank loan came just before Election Day

One month before Election Day, Jared Kushner’s real estate company finalized a $285 million loan as part of a refinancing package for its property near Times Square in Manhattan.


I think Rachel Maddow hammered it home. No American bank is going to loan money to Trump, after he burned them for 900 million dollars by bankrupting 4 casinos.

I think Russian Oligarks own Trump. So when Rachel Maddow is using the sharpy in this video, (as an example) think of Trump casino's, hotels and golf courses around the world.

DEUTSCHE BANK.




if you get your news from madcow, it explains why you are so fricken stupid.


Mueller has already got collusion & obstruction of Justice--as explained in this thread.
Mueller already has collusion & obstruction of justice--he's going after this Trump russian mob now.

Mueller is now going after the Russian money laundering scheme that is interconnected with Trump and his associates. Here is Rachel Maddow again with court documents in hand on Manafort and Gates.



Which is why your Nemisis MSNBC--specifically Rachel Maddow is the number one watched cable news network in this country today.
In Trump era, Rachel Maddow starts beating Fox News
Rachel Maddow crushes Fox News in August; CNN gaining fast

When FOX NEWS is reporting on 3 Federal Grand jury indictiments & 1 guilty plea like this, I am surprised anyone watches them. FOX NEWS has the credibility of a Tabloid magazine anymore.



So enjoy your stupidity for as long as it lasts. As they say "ignorance" is bliss.
 
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Yeah...they changed it:

TO TRUMP AND FAMILY.... AFFILIATES....that's the Russian Banks that bought Trump's debt at Deutsche Bank...

Looks like the Russians OWN President Trump's debt, or that is what the subpoena is looking for....

for affiliate records connecting Trump's debt, to the Russians/Putin's Bank...

and a BIG

HOLY SMOKES, this ain't just an obstruction case!


poor little care4, I get it that you hate Trump and cannot get over Hillary losing, I understand your sorrow.

But none of this is going to lead to anything against Trump. Mueller has so far wasted 7 million on a partisan witch hunt and found nothing of substance.

Now, if he takes his Russia investigation into the Clinton foundation and the personal bank accounts of bubba and hilly, he may very find some prosecutable criminal activity.

you libs started this crap, it will be funny to watch it bring down your heroes.
who knows why you keep making this about Clinton :dunno:

This isn't about Clinton or her loss....this is about the Russian mob, and the president and the president's men, who chose them, over their own Nation, for money....
 
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Yeah...they changed it:

TO TRUMP AND FAMILY.... AFFILIATES....that's the Russian Banks that bought Trump's debt at Deutsche Bank...

Looks like the Russians OWN President Trump's debt, or that is what the subpoena is looking for....

for affiliate records connecting Trump's debt, to the Russians/Putin's Bank...

and a BIG

HOLY SMOKES, this ain't just an obstruction case!


poor little care4, I get it that you hate Trump and cannot get over Hillary losing, I understand your sorrow.

But none of this is going to lead to anything against Trump. Mueller has so far wasted 7 million on a partisan witch hunt and found nothing of substance.

Now, if he takes his Russia investigation into the Clinton foundation and the personal bank accounts of bubba and hilly, he may very find some prosecutable criminal activity.

you libs started this crap, it will be funny to watch it bring down your heroes.
who knows why you keep making this about Clinton :dunno:

This isn't about Clinton or her loss....this is about the Russian mob, and the president and the president's men, who chose them, over their own Nation, for money....


That's all they got is why they continually bring Hillary Clinton up. Here is Michael Flynn on the campaign trail. They're like Pavlog's dogs. The mention of Hillary Clinton's name gets them running, barking & foaming at the mouth.



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"Former national security adviser Michael Flynn promised a business associate before the inauguration of Donald Trump that U.S. sanctions with Russia would be "ripped up" by the incoming administration, according to a witness account described by House Democrats.

Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Wednesday that the whistle-blower described how within minutes of Trump being sworn in, Flynn texted a former business colleague saying they were "good to go" with a plan to work with Russia on building Middle East nuclear reactors.

Cummings detailed the whistle-blower’s account in a letter to House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy, saying the witness came forward in June and that he has now been authorized to share his account publicly.

The letter said that if this witness account is accurate, Trump’s national security adviser "was trying to manipulate the course of international nuclear policy for the financial gain of his former business partners."

The whistle-blower told Cummings that he saw a text from Flynn that was sent on Jan. 20 "approximately ten minutes" into Trump’s speech when Flynn was sitting in the audience.
Flynn Said Russia Sanctions Would Be Nixed, According to a Whistle-Blower
 
,
Yeah...they changed it:

TO TRUMP AND FAMILY.... AFFILIATES....that's the Russian Banks that bought Trump's debt at Deutsche Bank...

Looks like the Russians OWN President Trump's debt, or that is what the subpoena is looking for....

for affiliate records connecting Trump's debt, to the Russians/Putin's Bank...

and a BIG

HOLY SMOKES, this ain't just an obstruction case!


poor little care4, I get it that you hate Trump and cannot get over Hillary losing, I understand your sorrow.

But none of this is going to lead to anything against Trump. Mueller has so far wasted 7 million on a partisan witch hunt and found nothing of substance.

Now, if he takes his Russia investigation into the Clinton foundation and the personal bank accounts of bubba and hilly, he may very find some prosecutable criminal activity.

you libs started this crap, it will be funny to watch it bring down your heroes.
who knows why you keep making this about Clinton :dunno:

This isn't about Clinton or her loss....this is about the Russian mob, and the president and the president's men, who chose them, over their own Nation, for money....


then tell us exactly what the Russians did that changed the outcome of the election. Give us specifics, when and where and how.

Was it the release of the evidence of corruption within the DNC and the Clinton campaign ? (which came from wikileaks, not Russia). Was it the evidence of cheating by giving her the debate questions in advance?

Tell us what the Russians did. Then tell us why they would prefer Trump who they could not control over Hillary who they had tons of material they could use to blackmail her.
 
,
Yeah...they changed it:

TO TRUMP AND FAMILY.... AFFILIATES....that's the Russian Banks that bought Trump's debt at Deutsche Bank...

Looks like the Russians OWN President Trump's debt, or that is what the subpoena is looking for....

for affiliate records connecting Trump's debt, to the Russians/Putin's Bank...

and a BIG

HOLY SMOKES, this ain't just an obstruction case!


poor little care4, I get it that you hate Trump and cannot get over Hillary losing, I understand your sorrow.

But none of this is going to lead to anything against Trump. Mueller has so far wasted 7 million on a partisan witch hunt and found nothing of substance.

Now, if he takes his Russia investigation into the Clinton foundation and the personal bank accounts of bubba and hilly, he may very find some prosecutable criminal activity.

you libs started this crap, it will be funny to watch it bring down your heroes.
who knows why you keep making this about Clinton :dunno:

This isn't about Clinton or her loss....this is about the Russian mob, and the president and the president's men, who chose them, over their own Nation, for money....


then tell us exactly what the Russians did that changed the outcome of the election. Give us specifics, when and where and how.

Was it the release of the evidence of corruption within the DNC and the Clinton campaign ? (which came from wikileaks, not Russia). Was it the evidence of cheating by giving her the debate questions in advance?

Tell us what the Russians did. Then tell us why they would prefer Trump who they could not control over Hillary who they had tons of material they could use to blackmail her.

No one is on this board to babysit you. If you haven't been paying attention to the news--or just glued to the news "you want to hear"--then that's your issue, no one else's.

If you're trying to play catch--up--you can go to this link, watch FOX NEWS videos and read links as to what has happened over last several months.
Mueller already has collusion & obstruction of justice--he's going after this Trump russian mob now.

For older news go to this link--ignore the error message.
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

For the daily news you'll have to switch the channel over to your NEMISIS--MSNBC--Rachel Maddow who has been reporting on every detail coming out of these investigations for months, with links. Which is why her ratings have soared past FOX NEWS & CNN.
In Trump era, Rachel Maddow starts beating Fox News
Rachel Maddow crushes Fox News in August; CNN gaining fast

Or you can stay with FOX NEWS--who thought the placement of cheese on cheeseburgers were more important than 3 Federal Grand Jury indictments and 1 guilty plea--:badgrin:

 
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Yeah...they changed it:

TO TRUMP AND FAMILY.... AFFILIATES....that's the Russian Banks that bought Trump's debt at Deutsche Bank...

Looks like the Russians OWN President Trump's debt, or that is what the subpoena is looking for....

for affiliate records connecting Trump's debt, to the Russians/Putin's Bank...

and a BIG

HOLY SMOKES, this ain't just an obstruction case!


poor little care4, I get it that you hate Trump and cannot get over Hillary losing, I understand your sorrow.

But none of this is going to lead to anything against Trump. Mueller has so far wasted 7 million on a partisan witch hunt and found nothing of substance.

Now, if he takes his Russia investigation into the Clinton foundation and the personal bank accounts of bubba and hilly, he may very find some prosecutable criminal activity.

you libs started this crap, it will be funny to watch it bring down your heroes.
who knows why you keep making this about Clinton :dunno:

This isn't about Clinton or her loss....this is about the Russian mob, and the president and the president's men, who chose them, over their own Nation, for money....


then tell us exactly what the Russians did that changed the outcome of the election. Give us specifics, when and where and how.

Was it the release of the evidence of corruption within the DNC and the Clinton campaign ? (which came from wikileaks, not Russia). Was it the evidence of cheating by giving her the debate questions in advance?

Tell us what the Russians did. Then tell us why they would prefer Trump who they could not control over Hillary who they had tons of material they could use to blackmail her.

No one is on this board to babysit you. If you haven't been paying attention to the news--or just glued to the news "you want to hear"--then that's your issue, no one else's.

If you're trying to play catch--up--you can go to this link, watch FOX NEWS videos and read links as to what has happened over last several months.
Mueller already has collusion & obstruction of justice--he's going after this Trump russian mob now.

For older news go to this link--ignore the error message.
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

For the daily news you'll have to switch the channel over to your NEMISIS--MSNBC--Rachel Maddow who has been reporting on every detail coming out of these investigations for months, with links. Which is why her ratings have soared past FOX NEWS & CNN.
In Trump era, Rachel Maddow starts beating Fox News
Rachel Maddow crushes Fox News in August; CNN gaining fast

Or you can stay with FOX NEWS--who thought the placement of cheese on cheeseburgers were more important than 3 Federal Grand Jury indictments and 1 guilty plea--:badgrin:


nothing burger big boy, a big fat dried out old nothing burger. I love it.

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You use property as collateral to get a loan...


Kushner firm’s $285 million Deutsche Bank loan came just before Election Day

One month before Election Day, Jared Kushner’s real estate company finalized a $285 million loan as part of a refinancing package for its property near Times Square in Manhattan.


I think Rachel Maddow hammered it home. No American bank is going to loan money to Trump, after he burned them for 900 million dollars by bankrupting 4 casinos.

I think Russian Oligarks own Trump. So when Rachel Maddow is using the sharpy in this video, (as an example) think of Trump casino's, hotels and golf courses around the world.

DEUTSCHE BANK.




if you get your news from madcow, it explains why you are so fricken stupid.


Mueller has already got collusion & obstruction of Justice--as explained in this thread.
Mueller already has collusion & obstruction of justice--he's going after this Trump russian mob now.

Mueller is now going after the Russian money laundering scheme that is interconnected with Trump and his associates. Here is Rachel Maddow again with court documents in hand on Manafort and Gates.



Which is why your Nemisis MSNBC--specifically Rachel Maddow is the number one watched cable news network in this country today.
In Trump era, Rachel Maddow starts beating Fox News
Rachel Maddow crushes Fox News in August; CNN gaining fast

When FOX NEWS is reporting on 3 Federal Grand jury indictiments & 1 guilty plea like this, I am surprised anyone watches them. FOX NEWS has the credibility of a Tabloid magazine anymore.



So enjoy your stupidity for as long as it lasts. As they say "ignorance" is bliss.

in your dreams and only your dreams.
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Yeah...they changed it:

TO TRUMP AND FAMILY.... AFFILIATES....that's the Russian Banks that bought Trump's debt at Deutsche Bank...

Looks like the Russians OWN President Trump's debt, or that is what the subpoena is looking for....

for affiliate records connecting Trump's debt, to the Russians/Putin's Bank...

and a BIG

HOLY SMOKES, this ain't just an obstruction case!


poor little care4, I get it that you hate Trump and cannot get over Hillary losing, I understand your sorrow.

But none of this is going to lead to anything against Trump. Mueller has so far wasted 7 million on a partisan witch hunt and found nothing of substance.

Now, if he takes his Russia investigation into the Clinton foundation and the personal bank accounts of bubba and hilly, he may very find some prosecutable criminal activity.

you libs started this crap, it will be funny to watch it bring down your heroes.
who knows why you keep making this about Clinton :dunno:

This isn't about Clinton or her loss....this is about the Russian mob, and the president and the president's men, who chose them, over their own Nation, for money....


then tell us exactly what the Russians did that changed the outcome of the election. Give us specifics, when and where and how.

Was it the release of the evidence of corruption within the DNC and the Clinton campaign ? (which came from wikileaks, not Russia). Was it the evidence of cheating by giving her the debate questions in advance?

Tell us what the Russians did. Then tell us why they would prefer Trump who they could not control over Hillary who they had tons of material they could use to blackmail her.

No one is on this board to babysit you. If you haven't been paying attention to the news--or just glued to the news "you want to hear"--then that's your issue, no one else's.

If you're trying to play catch--up--you can go to this link, watch FOX NEWS videos and read links as to what has happened over last several months.
Mueller already has collusion & obstruction of justice--he's going after this Trump russian mob now.

For older news go to this link--ignore the error message.
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

For the daily news you'll have to switch the channel over to your NEMISIS--MSNBC--Rachel Maddow who has been reporting on every detail coming out of these investigations for months, with links. Which is why her ratings have soared past FOX NEWS & CNN.
In Trump era, Rachel Maddow starts beating Fox News
Rachel Maddow crushes Fox News in August; CNN gaining fast

Or you can stay with FOX NEWS--who thought the placement of cheese on cheeseburgers were more important than 3 Federal Grand Jury indictments and 1 guilty plea--:badgrin:




no one knows how much of that is fake news and how much is real. So again, I ask you, what exactly do YOU think the Russians did that changed the outcome of our election. How did they do it, where did they do it, and how many votes were changed?

If its just the wikileaks stuff about the corrupt DNC, Hillary campaign, and the media. Those reports have proven true, why is it bad if the voters have access to the truth?
 
Overextending his reach a bit.

Nope, follow the money. Isn't that what you did to the Clintons and yet found nothing, well they will find stuff on Trump you can be sure of it.
Oh, this claim didn't age well!

One year ago, as 2019 was about to debut, the press already declared the Mueller Report the story of the year of 2019. In fact, Chris Matthews predicted the report would lead to President Donald John Trump's resignation.

The Daily Mail reported on December 18, 2018, "MSNBC's Chris Matthews predicted on Monday that Donald Trump could resign soon as part of a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller in a bid to spare his family from prosecution.

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"'The president's children stand right in the line of Mueller's investigative progress,' Matthews said on Hardball, referring to Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

"'They stand as the next dominoes to fall. Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that.

"Matthews said Ivanka and Trump Jr can 'hardly testify against their father', adding that if Mueller 'will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president's adult children heading to prison'.

"However, the host said that may not happen if the president strikes a deal with Mueller.

"'But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative?' Matthews said.

"'What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids,' he added."

Matthews was not the only one feeling a thrill up his leg at the thought of Mueller taking the Orange Man down.

T.A. Frank at Vanity Fair wrote, "Robert Mueller will issue a nasty report.

"If Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen or George Papadopoulos, among others, were part of some criminal conspiracy with Moscow, they would have been indicted for it and then received leniency in exchange for their help in unraveling the plot. Instead, they have been indicted for different crimes and, in some cases, already served their time. This is how we can say, with near-certainty, that no great Russia plot is on the cusp of being revealed. Nevertheless, Mueller has had almost unfettered access to the hampers of everyone in Trumpland, and, to judge by his indictments, he seems determined to make the most of it. That means he’ll put out a report detailing many of the unsavory things he has found, and, since we’re talking about people like Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen, not to mention Donald Trump, he should have a decent buffet.

"Once Mueller’s report hits, news outlets, especially broadcast ones, will crank the volume to 11. People will be shocked, shocked by this or that revelation. The cries of Trump-must-resign will he deafening, and some Republicans will start to waver and distance themselves from the president. While most of the ruckus will settle down after a couple of weeks, and odds are that Trump will pull through, those weeks will feel like an eternity to the White House and to Republicans on Capitol Hill. Trump will be at his lowest ebb."

Wowsers.

It sounded like curtains for President Donald John Trump.

T.A. Frank wrote, "Lots of people expect Robert Mueller’s crew to hit them with indictments. These include Trump offspring Donald Trump Jr. The president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is said to be worried, too. Finally, Donald Trump himself is in the crosshairs of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who might indict him for campaign finance violations. (Indicting a sitting president is tricky at best, but it’s still an unpleasant threat.) Timing matters a lot on these developments. If they hit in concert with some other bad news, they could be enough to create a genuine crisis for Trump, creating insurmountable pressure to resign or for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings. It’s a remote threat, but even remote threats can cost people a lot of sleep."

Frank also wrote, "A recession will take hold."

Instead, the best economy in 50 years continues.

Paul Brandus at USA Today wrote, "Robert Mueller, House Democrats and slowing economy will end Trump's 'great time' in 2019."

His column said, "Let’s discuss Mueller first. Everyone keeps asking when is the former FBI director (and lifelong Republican) going to issue his report? Actually, with all the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions and prison sentences that have already been handed down, we already know a lot — and like a fireworks show on the Fourth of July, there could be a grand finale that makes the country go, WOW.

"Remember: Mueller’s jurisdiction is not limited to Russia; he can take his probe in any direction necessary, and he has done just that. Trump supporters say there’s no collusion, and they may or may not be right. But they don’t know what other cards the wily lawman is holding so close to his chest.

"Mueller’s revelations, released in a manner and time of his choosing, have the added effect of stealing news cycles away from Trump and keeping him on the defense. The president is in reactive mode, tweet-ranting and waiting like the rest of us for the next shoe to drop. The president is not in charge — due process is. And this is what terrifies him.

"There is also this: The impeachment of President Bill Clinton was 20 years ago this month. It should trouble Trump that the independent counsel investigating Clinton, Kenneth Starr, was able to charge a sitting president with obstruction of justice — and force him to testify before a grand jury."

Aha!

Obstruction of justice because (do not read this aloud in front of young children and people with heart conditions) TRUMP TWEETED!

Michael Tomasky of the Daily Beast wrote, "Mueller is an important figure. Perhaps soon, he will send his report up to the Justice Department. Though the department has no legal obligation to make it public, it seems close to impossible to me that a report of such clear first-order public concern can be kept under wraps. So one way or the other I expect we’ll know what he's found.

"Beyond that, he may issue more indictments, including the president’s family members. Maybe even the president himself, although that seems unlikely (but not impossible, as some insist). I try to stay away from predictions these days, but given that we know that Mueller has hours of testimony from Michael Cohen, presumably hours more from longtime Trump Organization bagman Allen Weisselberg, and Trump’s tax returns, I’d expect some seriously interesting revelations."

John LeBoutillier, a former Republican congressman from New York, made 30 predictions for 2019 in the Hill, none of which looked good for our president.

LeBoutillier wrote, "Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019" and "Consumer confidence is declining and the American economy will slow noticeably in 2019. A recession is right around the corner, heading into 2020."

My favorite part were the predictions

"12. The Mueller investigation will come to an end in 2019;

"13. Mueller will shock everyone with what he has discovered, and the result will be much worse for Trump than anyone has anticipated;

"14. Yes, Trump indeed knew about the now-infamous June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting — and he lied to the American people repeatedly about it;

"15. Trump lied on Air Force One when he concocted a phony statement about 'adoptions,' because he knew the truth about the meeting;

"16. The Mueller investigation will unveil evidence of Trump putting himself out to the highest bidder in return for campaign help and financing: Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris — there will be evidence that millions of foreign dollars illegally flowed into the Trump campaign coffers in 2016;

"17. In other words, Trump basically said, 'I’m for sale;'

"18. We may learn the source of the $66 million of his own money that Trump donated to his campaign in 2016. Was it a foreign entity who gave him the money as, in effect, an illegal pass-through?"

The Mueller Report was the biggest story in 2019 because the deep state spent 2 years and $20 million-plus investigating the president and it could not find any instance of a crime by him.

None.

He is the cleanest president in history.

And the press cannot stand it.

Don Surber: Press silent on the biggest story of 2019
 
Overextending his reach a bit.

Nope, follow the money. Isn't that what you did to the Clintons and yet found nothing, well they will find stuff on Trump you can be sure of it.
Oh, this claim didn't age well!

One year ago, as 2019 was about to debut, the press already declared the Mueller Report the story of the year of 2019. In fact, Chris Matthews predicted the report would lead to President Donald John Trump's resignation.

The Daily Mail reported on December 18, 2018, "MSNBC's Chris Matthews predicted on Monday that Donald Trump could resign soon as part of a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller in a bid to spare his family from prosecution.

35aykq.jpg


"'The president's children stand right in the line of Mueller's investigative progress,' Matthews said on Hardball, referring to Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

"'They stand as the next dominoes to fall. Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that.

"Matthews said Ivanka and Trump Jr can 'hardly testify against their father', adding that if Mueller 'will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president's adult children heading to prison'.

"However, the host said that may not happen if the president strikes a deal with Mueller.

"'But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative?' Matthews said.

"'What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids,' he added."

Matthews was not the only one feeling a thrill up his leg at the thought of Mueller taking the Orange Man down.

T.A. Frank at Vanity Fair wrote, "Robert Mueller will issue a nasty report.

"If Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen or George Papadopoulos, among others, were part of some criminal conspiracy with Moscow, they would have been indicted for it and then received leniency in exchange for their help in unraveling the plot. Instead, they have been indicted for different crimes and, in some cases, already served their time. This is how we can say, with near-certainty, that no great Russia plot is on the cusp of being revealed. Nevertheless, Mueller has had almost unfettered access to the hampers of everyone in Trumpland, and, to judge by his indictments, he seems determined to make the most of it. That means he’ll put out a report detailing many of the unsavory things he has found, and, since we’re talking about people like Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen, not to mention Donald Trump, he should have a decent buffet.

"Once Mueller’s report hits, news outlets, especially broadcast ones, will crank the volume to 11. People will be shocked, shocked by this or that revelation. The cries of Trump-must-resign will he deafening, and some Republicans will start to waver and distance themselves from the president. While most of the ruckus will settle down after a couple of weeks, and odds are that Trump will pull through, those weeks will feel like an eternity to the White House and to Republicans on Capitol Hill. Trump will be at his lowest ebb."

Wowsers.

It sounded like curtains for President Donald John Trump.

T.A. Frank wrote, "Lots of people expect Robert Mueller’s crew to hit them with indictments. These include Trump offspring Donald Trump Jr. The president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is said to be worried, too. Finally, Donald Trump himself is in the crosshairs of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who might indict him for campaign finance violations. (Indicting a sitting president is tricky at best, but it’s still an unpleasant threat.) Timing matters a lot on these developments. If they hit in concert with some other bad news, they could be enough to create a genuine crisis for Trump, creating insurmountable pressure to resign or for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings. It’s a remote threat, but even remote threats can cost people a lot of sleep."

Frank also wrote, "A recession will take hold."

Instead, the best economy in 50 years continues.

Paul Brandus at USA Today wrote, "Robert Mueller, House Democrats and slowing economy will end Trump's 'great time' in 2019."

His column said, "Let’s discuss Mueller first. Everyone keeps asking when is the former FBI director (and lifelong Republican) going to issue his report? Actually, with all the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions and prison sentences that have already been handed down, we already know a lot — and like a fireworks show on the Fourth of July, there could be a grand finale that makes the country go, WOW.

"Remember: Mueller’s jurisdiction is not limited to Russia; he can take his probe in any direction necessary, and he has done just that. Trump supporters say there’s no collusion, and they may or may not be right. But they don’t know what other cards the wily lawman is holding so close to his chest.

"Mueller’s revelations, released in a manner and time of his choosing, have the added effect of stealing news cycles away from Trump and keeping him on the defense. The president is in reactive mode, tweet-ranting and waiting like the rest of us for the next shoe to drop. The president is not in charge — due process is. And this is what terrifies him.

"There is also this: The impeachment of President Bill Clinton was 20 years ago this month. It should trouble Trump that the independent counsel investigating Clinton, Kenneth Starr, was able to charge a sitting president with obstruction of justice — and force him to testify before a grand jury."

Aha!

Obstruction of justice because (do not read this aloud in front of young children and people with heart conditions) TRUMP TWEETED!

Michael Tomasky of the Daily Beast wrote, "Mueller is an important figure. Perhaps soon, he will send his report up to the Justice Department. Though the department has no legal obligation to make it public, it seems close to impossible to me that a report of such clear first-order public concern can be kept under wraps. So one way or the other I expect we’ll know what he's found.

"Beyond that, he may issue more indictments, including the president’s family members. Maybe even the president himself, although that seems unlikely (but not impossible, as some insist). I try to stay away from predictions these days, but given that we know that Mueller has hours of testimony from Michael Cohen, presumably hours more from longtime Trump Organization bagman Allen Weisselberg, and Trump’s tax returns, I’d expect some seriously interesting revelations."

John LeBoutillier, a former Republican congressman from New York, made 30 predictions for 2019 in the Hill, none of which looked good for our president.

LeBoutillier wrote, "Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019" and "Consumer confidence is declining and the American economy will slow noticeably in 2019. A recession is right around the corner, heading into 2020."

My favorite part were the predictions

"12. The Mueller investigation will come to an end in 2019;

"13. Mueller will shock everyone with what he has discovered, and the result will be much worse for Trump than anyone has anticipated;

"14. Yes, Trump indeed knew about the now-infamous June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting — and he lied to the American people repeatedly about it;

"15. Trump lied on Air Force One when he concocted a phony statement about 'adoptions,' because he knew the truth about the meeting;

"16. The Mueller investigation will unveil evidence of Trump putting himself out to the highest bidder in return for campaign help and financing: Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris — there will be evidence that millions of foreign dollars illegally flowed into the Trump campaign coffers in 2016;

"17. In other words, Trump basically said, 'I’m for sale;'

"18. We may learn the source of the $66 million of his own money that Trump donated to his campaign in 2016. Was it a foreign entity who gave him the money as, in effect, an illegal pass-through?"

The Mueller Report was the biggest story in 2019 because the deep state spent 2 years and $20 million-plus investigating the president and it could not find any instance of a crime by him.

None.

He is the cleanest president in history.

And the press cannot stand it.

Don Surber: Press silent on the biggest story of 2019



The way that the left will say the most stupid shit, and then just ignore the fact that it blew up in their face, without any expression of concern or period of introspection afterwards, or even internal debate,


shows that they knew it was shit when they first said it, and thus that we cannot and should not, give ANY CREDIBILITY to anything they ever say.
 
Overextending his reach a bit.

Nope, follow the money. Isn't that what you did to the Clintons and yet found nothing, well they will find stuff on Trump you can be sure of it.
Oh, this claim didn't age well!

One year ago, as 2019 was about to debut, the press already declared the Mueller Report the story of the year of 2019. In fact, Chris Matthews predicted the report would lead to President Donald John Trump's resignation.

The Daily Mail reported on December 18, 2018, "MSNBC's Chris Matthews predicted on Monday that Donald Trump could resign soon as part of a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller in a bid to spare his family from prosecution.

35aykq.jpg


"'The president's children stand right in the line of Mueller's investigative progress,' Matthews said on Hardball, referring to Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

"'They stand as the next dominoes to fall. Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that.

"Matthews said Ivanka and Trump Jr can 'hardly testify against their father', adding that if Mueller 'will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president's adult children heading to prison'.

"However, the host said that may not happen if the president strikes a deal with Mueller.

"'But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative?' Matthews said.

"'What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids,' he added."

Matthews was not the only one feeling a thrill up his leg at the thought of Mueller taking the Orange Man down.

T.A. Frank at Vanity Fair wrote, "Robert Mueller will issue a nasty report.

"If Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen or George Papadopoulos, among others, were part of some criminal conspiracy with Moscow, they would have been indicted for it and then received leniency in exchange for their help in unraveling the plot. Instead, they have been indicted for different crimes and, in some cases, already served their time. This is how we can say, with near-certainty, that no great Russia plot is on the cusp of being revealed. Nevertheless, Mueller has had almost unfettered access to the hampers of everyone in Trumpland, and, to judge by his indictments, he seems determined to make the most of it. That means he’ll put out a report detailing many of the unsavory things he has found, and, since we’re talking about people like Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen, not to mention Donald Trump, he should have a decent buffet.

"Once Mueller’s report hits, news outlets, especially broadcast ones, will crank the volume to 11. People will be shocked, shocked by this or that revelation. The cries of Trump-must-resign will he deafening, and some Republicans will start to waver and distance themselves from the president. While most of the ruckus will settle down after a couple of weeks, and odds are that Trump will pull through, those weeks will feel like an eternity to the White House and to Republicans on Capitol Hill. Trump will be at his lowest ebb."

Wowsers.

It sounded like curtains for President Donald John Trump.

T.A. Frank wrote, "Lots of people expect Robert Mueller’s crew to hit them with indictments. These include Trump offspring Donald Trump Jr. The president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is said to be worried, too. Finally, Donald Trump himself is in the crosshairs of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who might indict him for campaign finance violations. (Indicting a sitting president is tricky at best, but it’s still an unpleasant threat.) Timing matters a lot on these developments. If they hit in concert with some other bad news, they could be enough to create a genuine crisis for Trump, creating insurmountable pressure to resign or for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings. It’s a remote threat, but even remote threats can cost people a lot of sleep."

Frank also wrote, "A recession will take hold."

Instead, the best economy in 50 years continues.

Paul Brandus at USA Today wrote, "Robert Mueller, House Democrats and slowing economy will end Trump's 'great time' in 2019."

His column said, "Let’s discuss Mueller first. Everyone keeps asking when is the former FBI director (and lifelong Republican) going to issue his report? Actually, with all the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions and prison sentences that have already been handed down, we already know a lot — and like a fireworks show on the Fourth of July, there could be a grand finale that makes the country go, WOW.

"Remember: Mueller’s jurisdiction is not limited to Russia; he can take his probe in any direction necessary, and he has done just that. Trump supporters say there’s no collusion, and they may or may not be right. But they don’t know what other cards the wily lawman is holding so close to his chest.

"Mueller’s revelations, released in a manner and time of his choosing, have the added effect of stealing news cycles away from Trump and keeping him on the defense. The president is in reactive mode, tweet-ranting and waiting like the rest of us for the next shoe to drop. The president is not in charge — due process is. And this is what terrifies him.

"There is also this: The impeachment of President Bill Clinton was 20 years ago this month. It should trouble Trump that the independent counsel investigating Clinton, Kenneth Starr, was able to charge a sitting president with obstruction of justice — and force him to testify before a grand jury."

Aha!

Obstruction of justice because (do not read this aloud in front of young children and people with heart conditions) TRUMP TWEETED!

Michael Tomasky of the Daily Beast wrote, "Mueller is an important figure. Perhaps soon, he will send his report up to the Justice Department. Though the department has no legal obligation to make it public, it seems close to impossible to me that a report of such clear first-order public concern can be kept under wraps. So one way or the other I expect we’ll know what he's found.

"Beyond that, he may issue more indictments, including the president’s family members. Maybe even the president himself, although that seems unlikely (but not impossible, as some insist). I try to stay away from predictions these days, but given that we know that Mueller has hours of testimony from Michael Cohen, presumably hours more from longtime Trump Organization bagman Allen Weisselberg, and Trump’s tax returns, I’d expect some seriously interesting revelations."

John LeBoutillier, a former Republican congressman from New York, made 30 predictions for 2019 in the Hill, none of which looked good for our president.

LeBoutillier wrote, "Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019" and "Consumer confidence is declining and the American economy will slow noticeably in 2019. A recession is right around the corner, heading into 2020."

My favorite part were the predictions

"12. The Mueller investigation will come to an end in 2019;

"13. Mueller will shock everyone with what he has discovered, and the result will be much worse for Trump than anyone has anticipated;

"14. Yes, Trump indeed knew about the now-infamous June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting — and he lied to the American people repeatedly about it;

"15. Trump lied on Air Force One when he concocted a phony statement about 'adoptions,' because he knew the truth about the meeting;

"16. The Mueller investigation will unveil evidence of Trump putting himself out to the highest bidder in return for campaign help and financing: Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris — there will be evidence that millions of foreign dollars illegally flowed into the Trump campaign coffers in 2016;

"17. In other words, Trump basically said, 'I’m for sale;'

"18. We may learn the source of the $66 million of his own money that Trump donated to his campaign in 2016. Was it a foreign entity who gave him the money as, in effect, an illegal pass-through?"

The Mueller Report was the biggest story in 2019 because the deep state spent 2 years and $20 million-plus investigating the president and it could not find any instance of a crime by him.

None.

He is the cleanest president in history.

And the press cannot stand it.

Don Surber: Press silent on the biggest story of 2019



The way that the left will say the most stupid shit, and then just ignore the fact that it blew up in their face, without any expression of concern or period of introspection afterwards, or even internal debate,


shows that they knew it was shit when they first said it, and thus that we cannot and should not, give ANY CREDIBILITY to anything they ever say.
Well sure..totally agree..of course...the far right does exactly the same thing--thus they also have no credibility.

Both groups of partisans...behave in exactly the same way. It would be amusing..were it not so damn pathetic.

A pox on both their houses.
 
Overextending his reach a bit.

Nope, follow the money. Isn't that what you did to the Clintons and yet found nothing, well they will find stuff on Trump you can be sure of it.
Oh, this claim didn't age well!

One year ago, as 2019 was about to debut, the press already declared the Mueller Report the story of the year of 2019. In fact, Chris Matthews predicted the report would lead to President Donald John Trump's resignation.

The Daily Mail reported on December 18, 2018, "MSNBC's Chris Matthews predicted on Monday that Donald Trump could resign soon as part of a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller in a bid to spare his family from prosecution.

35aykq.jpg


"'The president's children stand right in the line of Mueller's investigative progress,' Matthews said on Hardball, referring to Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

"'They stand as the next dominoes to fall. Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that.

"Matthews said Ivanka and Trump Jr can 'hardly testify against their father', adding that if Mueller 'will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president's adult children heading to prison'.

"However, the host said that may not happen if the president strikes a deal with Mueller.

"'But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative?' Matthews said.

"'What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids,' he added."

Matthews was not the only one feeling a thrill up his leg at the thought of Mueller taking the Orange Man down.

T.A. Frank at Vanity Fair wrote, "Robert Mueller will issue a nasty report.

"If Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen or George Papadopoulos, among others, were part of some criminal conspiracy with Moscow, they would have been indicted for it and then received leniency in exchange for their help in unraveling the plot. Instead, they have been indicted for different crimes and, in some cases, already served their time. This is how we can say, with near-certainty, that no great Russia plot is on the cusp of being revealed. Nevertheless, Mueller has had almost unfettered access to the hampers of everyone in Trumpland, and, to judge by his indictments, he seems determined to make the most of it. That means he’ll put out a report detailing many of the unsavory things he has found, and, since we’re talking about people like Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen, not to mention Donald Trump, he should have a decent buffet.

"Once Mueller’s report hits, news outlets, especially broadcast ones, will crank the volume to 11. People will be shocked, shocked by this or that revelation. The cries of Trump-must-resign will he deafening, and some Republicans will start to waver and distance themselves from the president. While most of the ruckus will settle down after a couple of weeks, and odds are that Trump will pull through, those weeks will feel like an eternity to the White House and to Republicans on Capitol Hill. Trump will be at his lowest ebb."

Wowsers.

It sounded like curtains for President Donald John Trump.

T.A. Frank wrote, "Lots of people expect Robert Mueller’s crew to hit them with indictments. These include Trump offspring Donald Trump Jr. The president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is said to be worried, too. Finally, Donald Trump himself is in the crosshairs of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who might indict him for campaign finance violations. (Indicting a sitting president is tricky at best, but it’s still an unpleasant threat.) Timing matters a lot on these developments. If they hit in concert with some other bad news, they could be enough to create a genuine crisis for Trump, creating insurmountable pressure to resign or for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings. It’s a remote threat, but even remote threats can cost people a lot of sleep."

Frank also wrote, "A recession will take hold."

Instead, the best economy in 50 years continues.

Paul Brandus at USA Today wrote, "Robert Mueller, House Democrats and slowing economy will end Trump's 'great time' in 2019."

His column said, "Let’s discuss Mueller first. Everyone keeps asking when is the former FBI director (and lifelong Republican) going to issue his report? Actually, with all the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions and prison sentences that have already been handed down, we already know a lot — and like a fireworks show on the Fourth of July, there could be a grand finale that makes the country go, WOW.

"Remember: Mueller’s jurisdiction is not limited to Russia; he can take his probe in any direction necessary, and he has done just that. Trump supporters say there’s no collusion, and they may or may not be right. But they don’t know what other cards the wily lawman is holding so close to his chest.

"Mueller’s revelations, released in a manner and time of his choosing, have the added effect of stealing news cycles away from Trump and keeping him on the defense. The president is in reactive mode, tweet-ranting and waiting like the rest of us for the next shoe to drop. The president is not in charge — due process is. And this is what terrifies him.

"There is also this: The impeachment of President Bill Clinton was 20 years ago this month. It should trouble Trump that the independent counsel investigating Clinton, Kenneth Starr, was able to charge a sitting president with obstruction of justice — and force him to testify before a grand jury."

Aha!

Obstruction of justice because (do not read this aloud in front of young children and people with heart conditions) TRUMP TWEETED!

Michael Tomasky of the Daily Beast wrote, "Mueller is an important figure. Perhaps soon, he will send his report up to the Justice Department. Though the department has no legal obligation to make it public, it seems close to impossible to me that a report of such clear first-order public concern can be kept under wraps. So one way or the other I expect we’ll know what he's found.

"Beyond that, he may issue more indictments, including the president’s family members. Maybe even the president himself, although that seems unlikely (but not impossible, as some insist). I try to stay away from predictions these days, but given that we know that Mueller has hours of testimony from Michael Cohen, presumably hours more from longtime Trump Organization bagman Allen Weisselberg, and Trump’s tax returns, I’d expect some seriously interesting revelations."

John LeBoutillier, a former Republican congressman from New York, made 30 predictions for 2019 in the Hill, none of which looked good for our president.

LeBoutillier wrote, "Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019" and "Consumer confidence is declining and the American economy will slow noticeably in 2019. A recession is right around the corner, heading into 2020."

My favorite part were the predictions

"12. The Mueller investigation will come to an end in 2019;

"13. Mueller will shock everyone with what he has discovered, and the result will be much worse for Trump than anyone has anticipated;

"14. Yes, Trump indeed knew about the now-infamous June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting — and he lied to the American people repeatedly about it;

"15. Trump lied on Air Force One when he concocted a phony statement about 'adoptions,' because he knew the truth about the meeting;

"16. The Mueller investigation will unveil evidence of Trump putting himself out to the highest bidder in return for campaign help and financing: Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris — there will be evidence that millions of foreign dollars illegally flowed into the Trump campaign coffers in 2016;

"17. In other words, Trump basically said, 'I’m for sale;'

"18. We may learn the source of the $66 million of his own money that Trump donated to his campaign in 2016. Was it a foreign entity who gave him the money as, in effect, an illegal pass-through?"

The Mueller Report was the biggest story in 2019 because the deep state spent 2 years and $20 million-plus investigating the president and it could not find any instance of a crime by him.

None.

He is the cleanest president in history.

And the press cannot stand it.

Don Surber: Press silent on the biggest story of 2019



The way that the left will say the most stupid shit, and then just ignore the fact that it blew up in their face, without any expression of concern or period of introspection afterwards, or even internal debate,


shows that they knew it was shit when they first said it, and thus that we cannot and should not, give ANY CREDIBILITY to anything they ever say.
Well sure..totally agree..of course...the far right does exactly the same thing--thus they also have no credibility.

Both groups of partisans...behave in exactly the same way. It would be amusing..were it not so damn pathetic.

A pox on both their houses.


Depends what you mean by the Far Right.

I see a lot of very active and serious debate on the Right on various issues.


First example that comes to mind is Ben Shapiro admitting that he was wrong about how Trump would govern. He said "shit",it turned out to be wrong, and he admitted it, and adjusted his position and future actions accordingly.
 
Overextending his reach a bit.

Nope, follow the money. Isn't that what you did to the Clintons and yet found nothing, well they will find stuff on Trump you can be sure of it.
Oh, this claim didn't age well!

One year ago, as 2019 was about to debut, the press already declared the Mueller Report the story of the year of 2019. In fact, Chris Matthews predicted the report would lead to President Donald John Trump's resignation.

The Daily Mail reported on December 18, 2018, "MSNBC's Chris Matthews predicted on Monday that Donald Trump could resign soon as part of a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller in a bid to spare his family from prosecution.

35aykq.jpg


"'The president's children stand right in the line of Mueller's investigative progress,' Matthews said on Hardball, referring to Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

"'They stand as the next dominoes to fall. Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that.

"Matthews said Ivanka and Trump Jr can 'hardly testify against their father', adding that if Mueller 'will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president's adult children heading to prison'.

"However, the host said that may not happen if the president strikes a deal with Mueller.

"'But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative?' Matthews said.

"'What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids,' he added."

Matthews was not the only one feeling a thrill up his leg at the thought of Mueller taking the Orange Man down.

T.A. Frank at Vanity Fair wrote, "Robert Mueller will issue a nasty report.

"If Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen or George Papadopoulos, among others, were part of some criminal conspiracy with Moscow, they would have been indicted for it and then received leniency in exchange for their help in unraveling the plot. Instead, they have been indicted for different crimes and, in some cases, already served their time. This is how we can say, with near-certainty, that no great Russia plot is on the cusp of being revealed. Nevertheless, Mueller has had almost unfettered access to the hampers of everyone in Trumpland, and, to judge by his indictments, he seems determined to make the most of it. That means he’ll put out a report detailing many of the unsavory things he has found, and, since we’re talking about people like Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen, not to mention Donald Trump, he should have a decent buffet.

"Once Mueller’s report hits, news outlets, especially broadcast ones, will crank the volume to 11. People will be shocked, shocked by this or that revelation. The cries of Trump-must-resign will he deafening, and some Republicans will start to waver and distance themselves from the president. While most of the ruckus will settle down after a couple of weeks, and odds are that Trump will pull through, those weeks will feel like an eternity to the White House and to Republicans on Capitol Hill. Trump will be at his lowest ebb."

Wowsers.

It sounded like curtains for President Donald John Trump.

T.A. Frank wrote, "Lots of people expect Robert Mueller’s crew to hit them with indictments. These include Trump offspring Donald Trump Jr. The president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is said to be worried, too. Finally, Donald Trump himself is in the crosshairs of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who might indict him for campaign finance violations. (Indicting a sitting president is tricky at best, but it’s still an unpleasant threat.) Timing matters a lot on these developments. If they hit in concert with some other bad news, they could be enough to create a genuine crisis for Trump, creating insurmountable pressure to resign or for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings. It’s a remote threat, but even remote threats can cost people a lot of sleep."

Frank also wrote, "A recession will take hold."

Instead, the best economy in 50 years continues.

Paul Brandus at USA Today wrote, "Robert Mueller, House Democrats and slowing economy will end Trump's 'great time' in 2019."

His column said, "Let’s discuss Mueller first. Everyone keeps asking when is the former FBI director (and lifelong Republican) going to issue his report? Actually, with all the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions and prison sentences that have already been handed down, we already know a lot — and like a fireworks show on the Fourth of July, there could be a grand finale that makes the country go, WOW.

"Remember: Mueller’s jurisdiction is not limited to Russia; he can take his probe in any direction necessary, and he has done just that. Trump supporters say there’s no collusion, and they may or may not be right. But they don’t know what other cards the wily lawman is holding so close to his chest.

"Mueller’s revelations, released in a manner and time of his choosing, have the added effect of stealing news cycles away from Trump and keeping him on the defense. The president is in reactive mode, tweet-ranting and waiting like the rest of us for the next shoe to drop. The president is not in charge — due process is. And this is what terrifies him.

"There is also this: The impeachment of President Bill Clinton was 20 years ago this month. It should trouble Trump that the independent counsel investigating Clinton, Kenneth Starr, was able to charge a sitting president with obstruction of justice — and force him to testify before a grand jury."

Aha!

Obstruction of justice because (do not read this aloud in front of young children and people with heart conditions) TRUMP TWEETED!

Michael Tomasky of the Daily Beast wrote, "Mueller is an important figure. Perhaps soon, he will send his report up to the Justice Department. Though the department has no legal obligation to make it public, it seems close to impossible to me that a report of such clear first-order public concern can be kept under wraps. So one way or the other I expect we’ll know what he's found.

"Beyond that, he may issue more indictments, including the president’s family members. Maybe even the president himself, although that seems unlikely (but not impossible, as some insist). I try to stay away from predictions these days, but given that we know that Mueller has hours of testimony from Michael Cohen, presumably hours more from longtime Trump Organization bagman Allen Weisselberg, and Trump’s tax returns, I’d expect some seriously interesting revelations."

John LeBoutillier, a former Republican congressman from New York, made 30 predictions for 2019 in the Hill, none of which looked good for our president.

LeBoutillier wrote, "Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019" and "Consumer confidence is declining and the American economy will slow noticeably in 2019. A recession is right around the corner, heading into 2020."

My favorite part were the predictions

"12. The Mueller investigation will come to an end in 2019;

"13. Mueller will shock everyone with what he has discovered, and the result will be much worse for Trump than anyone has anticipated;

"14. Yes, Trump indeed knew about the now-infamous June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting — and he lied to the American people repeatedly about it;

"15. Trump lied on Air Force One when he concocted a phony statement about 'adoptions,' because he knew the truth about the meeting;

"16. The Mueller investigation will unveil evidence of Trump putting himself out to the highest bidder in return for campaign help and financing: Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris — there will be evidence that millions of foreign dollars illegally flowed into the Trump campaign coffers in 2016;

"17. In other words, Trump basically said, 'I’m for sale;'

"18. We may learn the source of the $66 million of his own money that Trump donated to his campaign in 2016. Was it a foreign entity who gave him the money as, in effect, an illegal pass-through?"

The Mueller Report was the biggest story in 2019 because the deep state spent 2 years and $20 million-plus investigating the president and it could not find any instance of a crime by him.

None.

He is the cleanest president in history.

And the press cannot stand it.

Don Surber: Press silent on the biggest story of 2019



The way that the left will say the most stupid shit, and then just ignore the fact that it blew up in their face, without any expression of concern or period of introspection afterwards, or even internal debate,


shows that they knew it was shit when they first said it, and thus that we cannot and should not, give ANY CREDIBILITY to anything they ever say.
Well sure..totally agree..of course...the far right does exactly the same thing--thus they also have no credibility.

Both groups of partisans...behave in exactly the same way. It would be amusing..were it not so damn pathetic.

A pox on both their houses.
Actually we whipped our Party's Establishment by electing Trump. I haven't seen Dems accomplish the same.
 
Overextending his reach a bit.

Nope, follow the money. Isn't that what you did to the Clintons and yet found nothing, well they will find stuff on Trump you can be sure of it.
Oh, this claim didn't age well!

One year ago, as 2019 was about to debut, the press already declared the Mueller Report the story of the year of 2019. In fact, Chris Matthews predicted the report would lead to President Donald John Trump's resignation.

The Daily Mail reported on December 18, 2018, "MSNBC's Chris Matthews predicted on Monday that Donald Trump could resign soon as part of a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller in a bid to spare his family from prosecution.

35aykq.jpg


"'The president's children stand right in the line of Mueller's investigative progress,' Matthews said on Hardball, referring to Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

"'They stand as the next dominoes to fall. Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that.

"Matthews said Ivanka and Trump Jr can 'hardly testify against their father', adding that if Mueller 'will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president's adult children heading to prison'.

"However, the host said that may not happen if the president strikes a deal with Mueller.

"'But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative?' Matthews said.

"'What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids,' he added."

Matthews was not the only one feeling a thrill up his leg at the thought of Mueller taking the Orange Man down.

T.A. Frank at Vanity Fair wrote, "Robert Mueller will issue a nasty report.

"If Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen or George Papadopoulos, among others, were part of some criminal conspiracy with Moscow, they would have been indicted for it and then received leniency in exchange for their help in unraveling the plot. Instead, they have been indicted for different crimes and, in some cases, already served their time. This is how we can say, with near-certainty, that no great Russia plot is on the cusp of being revealed. Nevertheless, Mueller has had almost unfettered access to the hampers of everyone in Trumpland, and, to judge by his indictments, he seems determined to make the most of it. That means he’ll put out a report detailing many of the unsavory things he has found, and, since we’re talking about people like Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen, not to mention Donald Trump, he should have a decent buffet.

"Once Mueller’s report hits, news outlets, especially broadcast ones, will crank the volume to 11. People will be shocked, shocked by this or that revelation. The cries of Trump-must-resign will he deafening, and some Republicans will start to waver and distance themselves from the president. While most of the ruckus will settle down after a couple of weeks, and odds are that Trump will pull through, those weeks will feel like an eternity to the White House and to Republicans on Capitol Hill. Trump will be at his lowest ebb."

Wowsers.

It sounded like curtains for President Donald John Trump.

T.A. Frank wrote, "Lots of people expect Robert Mueller’s crew to hit them with indictments. These include Trump offspring Donald Trump Jr. The president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is said to be worried, too. Finally, Donald Trump himself is in the crosshairs of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who might indict him for campaign finance violations. (Indicting a sitting president is tricky at best, but it’s still an unpleasant threat.) Timing matters a lot on these developments. If they hit in concert with some other bad news, they could be enough to create a genuine crisis for Trump, creating insurmountable pressure to resign or for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings. It’s a remote threat, but even remote threats can cost people a lot of sleep."

Frank also wrote, "A recession will take hold."

Instead, the best economy in 50 years continues.

Paul Brandus at USA Today wrote, "Robert Mueller, House Democrats and slowing economy will end Trump's 'great time' in 2019."

His column said, "Let’s discuss Mueller first. Everyone keeps asking when is the former FBI director (and lifelong Republican) going to issue his report? Actually, with all the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions and prison sentences that have already been handed down, we already know a lot — and like a fireworks show on the Fourth of July, there could be a grand finale that makes the country go, WOW.

"Remember: Mueller’s jurisdiction is not limited to Russia; he can take his probe in any direction necessary, and he has done just that. Trump supporters say there’s no collusion, and they may or may not be right. But they don’t know what other cards the wily lawman is holding so close to his chest.

"Mueller’s revelations, released in a manner and time of his choosing, have the added effect of stealing news cycles away from Trump and keeping him on the defense. The president is in reactive mode, tweet-ranting and waiting like the rest of us for the next shoe to drop. The president is not in charge — due process is. And this is what terrifies him.

"There is also this: The impeachment of President Bill Clinton was 20 years ago this month. It should trouble Trump that the independent counsel investigating Clinton, Kenneth Starr, was able to charge a sitting president with obstruction of justice — and force him to testify before a grand jury."

Aha!

Obstruction of justice because (do not read this aloud in front of young children and people with heart conditions) TRUMP TWEETED!

Michael Tomasky of the Daily Beast wrote, "Mueller is an important figure. Perhaps soon, he will send his report up to the Justice Department. Though the department has no legal obligation to make it public, it seems close to impossible to me that a report of such clear first-order public concern can be kept under wraps. So one way or the other I expect we’ll know what he's found.

"Beyond that, he may issue more indictments, including the president’s family members. Maybe even the president himself, although that seems unlikely (but not impossible, as some insist). I try to stay away from predictions these days, but given that we know that Mueller has hours of testimony from Michael Cohen, presumably hours more from longtime Trump Organization bagman Allen Weisselberg, and Trump’s tax returns, I’d expect some seriously interesting revelations."

John LeBoutillier, a former Republican congressman from New York, made 30 predictions for 2019 in the Hill, none of which looked good for our president.

LeBoutillier wrote, "Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019" and "Consumer confidence is declining and the American economy will slow noticeably in 2019. A recession is right around the corner, heading into 2020."

My favorite part were the predictions

"12. The Mueller investigation will come to an end in 2019;

"13. Mueller will shock everyone with what he has discovered, and the result will be much worse for Trump than anyone has anticipated;

"14. Yes, Trump indeed knew about the now-infamous June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting — and he lied to the American people repeatedly about it;

"15. Trump lied on Air Force One when he concocted a phony statement about 'adoptions,' because he knew the truth about the meeting;

"16. The Mueller investigation will unveil evidence of Trump putting himself out to the highest bidder in return for campaign help and financing: Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris — there will be evidence that millions of foreign dollars illegally flowed into the Trump campaign coffers in 2016;

"17. In other words, Trump basically said, 'I’m for sale;'

"18. We may learn the source of the $66 million of his own money that Trump donated to his campaign in 2016. Was it a foreign entity who gave him the money as, in effect, an illegal pass-through?"

The Mueller Report was the biggest story in 2019 because the deep state spent 2 years and $20 million-plus investigating the president and it could not find any instance of a crime by him.

None.

He is the cleanest president in history.

And the press cannot stand it.

Don Surber: Press silent on the biggest story of 2019



The way that the left will say the most stupid shit, and then just ignore the fact that it blew up in their face, without any expression of concern or period of introspection afterwards, or even internal debate,


shows that they knew it was shit when they first said it, and thus that we cannot and should not, give ANY CREDIBILITY to anything they ever say.
Well sure..totally agree..of course...the far right does exactly the same thing--thus they also have no credibility.

Both groups of partisans...behave in exactly the same way. It would be amusing..were it not so damn pathetic.

A pox on both their houses.
Actually we whipped our Party's Establishment by electing Trump. I haven't seen Dems accomplish the same.
Yeah..there's not yet been a populist rebellion in the Dem ranks leading to a Progressive, far left President.

Stay tuned.
 
Nope, follow the money. Isn't that what you did to the Clintons and yet found nothing, well they will find stuff on Trump you can be sure of it.
Oh, this claim didn't age well!

One year ago, as 2019 was about to debut, the press already declared the Mueller Report the story of the year of 2019. In fact, Chris Matthews predicted the report would lead to President Donald John Trump's resignation.

The Daily Mail reported on December 18, 2018, "MSNBC's Chris Matthews predicted on Monday that Donald Trump could resign soon as part of a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller in a bid to spare his family from prosecution.

35aykq.jpg


"'The president's children stand right in the line of Mueller's investigative progress,' Matthews said on Hardball, referring to Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

"'They stand as the next dominoes to fall. Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that.

"Matthews said Ivanka and Trump Jr can 'hardly testify against their father', adding that if Mueller 'will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president's adult children heading to prison'.

"However, the host said that may not happen if the president strikes a deal with Mueller.

"'But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative?' Matthews said.

"'What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids,' he added."

Matthews was not the only one feeling a thrill up his leg at the thought of Mueller taking the Orange Man down.

T.A. Frank at Vanity Fair wrote, "Robert Mueller will issue a nasty report.

"If Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen or George Papadopoulos, among others, were part of some criminal conspiracy with Moscow, they would have been indicted for it and then received leniency in exchange for their help in unraveling the plot. Instead, they have been indicted for different crimes and, in some cases, already served their time. This is how we can say, with near-certainty, that no great Russia plot is on the cusp of being revealed. Nevertheless, Mueller has had almost unfettered access to the hampers of everyone in Trumpland, and, to judge by his indictments, he seems determined to make the most of it. That means he’ll put out a report detailing many of the unsavory things he has found, and, since we’re talking about people like Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen, not to mention Donald Trump, he should have a decent buffet.

"Once Mueller’s report hits, news outlets, especially broadcast ones, will crank the volume to 11. People will be shocked, shocked by this or that revelation. The cries of Trump-must-resign will he deafening, and some Republicans will start to waver and distance themselves from the president. While most of the ruckus will settle down after a couple of weeks, and odds are that Trump will pull through, those weeks will feel like an eternity to the White House and to Republicans on Capitol Hill. Trump will be at his lowest ebb."

Wowsers.

It sounded like curtains for President Donald John Trump.

T.A. Frank wrote, "Lots of people expect Robert Mueller’s crew to hit them with indictments. These include Trump offspring Donald Trump Jr. The president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is said to be worried, too. Finally, Donald Trump himself is in the crosshairs of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who might indict him for campaign finance violations. (Indicting a sitting president is tricky at best, but it’s still an unpleasant threat.) Timing matters a lot on these developments. If they hit in concert with some other bad news, they could be enough to create a genuine crisis for Trump, creating insurmountable pressure to resign or for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings. It’s a remote threat, but even remote threats can cost people a lot of sleep."

Frank also wrote, "A recession will take hold."

Instead, the best economy in 50 years continues.

Paul Brandus at USA Today wrote, "Robert Mueller, House Democrats and slowing economy will end Trump's 'great time' in 2019."

His column said, "Let’s discuss Mueller first. Everyone keeps asking when is the former FBI director (and lifelong Republican) going to issue his report? Actually, with all the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions and prison sentences that have already been handed down, we already know a lot — and like a fireworks show on the Fourth of July, there could be a grand finale that makes the country go, WOW.

"Remember: Mueller’s jurisdiction is not limited to Russia; he can take his probe in any direction necessary, and he has done just that. Trump supporters say there’s no collusion, and they may or may not be right. But they don’t know what other cards the wily lawman is holding so close to his chest.

"Mueller’s revelations, released in a manner and time of his choosing, have the added effect of stealing news cycles away from Trump and keeping him on the defense. The president is in reactive mode, tweet-ranting and waiting like the rest of us for the next shoe to drop. The president is not in charge — due process is. And this is what terrifies him.

"There is also this: The impeachment of President Bill Clinton was 20 years ago this month. It should trouble Trump that the independent counsel investigating Clinton, Kenneth Starr, was able to charge a sitting president with obstruction of justice — and force him to testify before a grand jury."

Aha!

Obstruction of justice because (do not read this aloud in front of young children and people with heart conditions) TRUMP TWEETED!

Michael Tomasky of the Daily Beast wrote, "Mueller is an important figure. Perhaps soon, he will send his report up to the Justice Department. Though the department has no legal obligation to make it public, it seems close to impossible to me that a report of such clear first-order public concern can be kept under wraps. So one way or the other I expect we’ll know what he's found.

"Beyond that, he may issue more indictments, including the president’s family members. Maybe even the president himself, although that seems unlikely (but not impossible, as some insist). I try to stay away from predictions these days, but given that we know that Mueller has hours of testimony from Michael Cohen, presumably hours more from longtime Trump Organization bagman Allen Weisselberg, and Trump’s tax returns, I’d expect some seriously interesting revelations."

John LeBoutillier, a former Republican congressman from New York, made 30 predictions for 2019 in the Hill, none of which looked good for our president.

LeBoutillier wrote, "Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019" and "Consumer confidence is declining and the American economy will slow noticeably in 2019. A recession is right around the corner, heading into 2020."

My favorite part were the predictions

"12. The Mueller investigation will come to an end in 2019;

"13. Mueller will shock everyone with what he has discovered, and the result will be much worse for Trump than anyone has anticipated;

"14. Yes, Trump indeed knew about the now-infamous June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting — and he lied to the American people repeatedly about it;

"15. Trump lied on Air Force One when he concocted a phony statement about 'adoptions,' because he knew the truth about the meeting;

"16. The Mueller investigation will unveil evidence of Trump putting himself out to the highest bidder in return for campaign help and financing: Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris — there will be evidence that millions of foreign dollars illegally flowed into the Trump campaign coffers in 2016;

"17. In other words, Trump basically said, 'I’m for sale;'

"18. We may learn the source of the $66 million of his own money that Trump donated to his campaign in 2016. Was it a foreign entity who gave him the money as, in effect, an illegal pass-through?"

The Mueller Report was the biggest story in 2019 because the deep state spent 2 years and $20 million-plus investigating the president and it could not find any instance of a crime by him.

None.

He is the cleanest president in history.

And the press cannot stand it.

Don Surber: Press silent on the biggest story of 2019



The way that the left will say the most stupid shit, and then just ignore the fact that it blew up in their face, without any expression of concern or period of introspection afterwards, or even internal debate,


shows that they knew it was shit when they first said it, and thus that we cannot and should not, give ANY CREDIBILITY to anything they ever say.
Well sure..totally agree..of course...the far right does exactly the same thing--thus they also have no credibility.

Both groups of partisans...behave in exactly the same way. It would be amusing..were it not so damn pathetic.

A pox on both their houses.
Actually we whipped our Party's Establishment by electing Trump. I haven't seen Dems accomplish the same.
Yeah..there's not yet been a populist rebellion in the Dem ranks leading to a Progressive, far left President.

Stay tuned.


They tried with Sanders. But the tyrants won. And Sanders kowtowed to those that robbed him. And his supporters fell into line, like good little serfs, who know their place.
 
Nope, follow the money. Isn't that what you did to the Clintons and yet found nothing, well they will find stuff on Trump you can be sure of it.
Oh, this claim didn't age well!

One year ago, as 2019 was about to debut, the press already declared the Mueller Report the story of the year of 2019. In fact, Chris Matthews predicted the report would lead to President Donald John Trump's resignation.

The Daily Mail reported on December 18, 2018, "MSNBC's Chris Matthews predicted on Monday that Donald Trump could resign soon as part of a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller in a bid to spare his family from prosecution.

35aykq.jpg


"'The president's children stand right in the line of Mueller's investigative progress,' Matthews said on Hardball, referring to Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

"'They stand as the next dominoes to fall. Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that.

"Matthews said Ivanka and Trump Jr can 'hardly testify against their father', adding that if Mueller 'will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president's adult children heading to prison'.

"However, the host said that may not happen if the president strikes a deal with Mueller.

"'But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative?' Matthews said.

"'What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids,' he added."

Matthews was not the only one feeling a thrill up his leg at the thought of Mueller taking the Orange Man down.

T.A. Frank at Vanity Fair wrote, "Robert Mueller will issue a nasty report.

"If Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen or George Papadopoulos, among others, were part of some criminal conspiracy with Moscow, they would have been indicted for it and then received leniency in exchange for their help in unraveling the plot. Instead, they have been indicted for different crimes and, in some cases, already served their time. This is how we can say, with near-certainty, that no great Russia plot is on the cusp of being revealed. Nevertheless, Mueller has had almost unfettered access to the hampers of everyone in Trumpland, and, to judge by his indictments, he seems determined to make the most of it. That means he’ll put out a report detailing many of the unsavory things he has found, and, since we’re talking about people like Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen, not to mention Donald Trump, he should have a decent buffet.

"Once Mueller’s report hits, news outlets, especially broadcast ones, will crank the volume to 11. People will be shocked, shocked by this or that revelation. The cries of Trump-must-resign will he deafening, and some Republicans will start to waver and distance themselves from the president. While most of the ruckus will settle down after a couple of weeks, and odds are that Trump will pull through, those weeks will feel like an eternity to the White House and to Republicans on Capitol Hill. Trump will be at his lowest ebb."

Wowsers.

It sounded like curtains for President Donald John Trump.

T.A. Frank wrote, "Lots of people expect Robert Mueller’s crew to hit them with indictments. These include Trump offspring Donald Trump Jr. The president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is said to be worried, too. Finally, Donald Trump himself is in the crosshairs of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who might indict him for campaign finance violations. (Indicting a sitting president is tricky at best, but it’s still an unpleasant threat.) Timing matters a lot on these developments. If they hit in concert with some other bad news, they could be enough to create a genuine crisis for Trump, creating insurmountable pressure to resign or for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings. It’s a remote threat, but even remote threats can cost people a lot of sleep."

Frank also wrote, "A recession will take hold."

Instead, the best economy in 50 years continues.

Paul Brandus at USA Today wrote, "Robert Mueller, House Democrats and slowing economy will end Trump's 'great time' in 2019."

His column said, "Let’s discuss Mueller first. Everyone keeps asking when is the former FBI director (and lifelong Republican) going to issue his report? Actually, with all the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions and prison sentences that have already been handed down, we already know a lot — and like a fireworks show on the Fourth of July, there could be a grand finale that makes the country go, WOW.

"Remember: Mueller’s jurisdiction is not limited to Russia; he can take his probe in any direction necessary, and he has done just that. Trump supporters say there’s no collusion, and they may or may not be right. But they don’t know what other cards the wily lawman is holding so close to his chest.

"Mueller’s revelations, released in a manner and time of his choosing, have the added effect of stealing news cycles away from Trump and keeping him on the defense. The president is in reactive mode, tweet-ranting and waiting like the rest of us for the next shoe to drop. The president is not in charge — due process is. And this is what terrifies him.

"There is also this: The impeachment of President Bill Clinton was 20 years ago this month. It should trouble Trump that the independent counsel investigating Clinton, Kenneth Starr, was able to charge a sitting president with obstruction of justice — and force him to testify before a grand jury."

Aha!

Obstruction of justice because (do not read this aloud in front of young children and people with heart conditions) TRUMP TWEETED!

Michael Tomasky of the Daily Beast wrote, "Mueller is an important figure. Perhaps soon, he will send his report up to the Justice Department. Though the department has no legal obligation to make it public, it seems close to impossible to me that a report of such clear first-order public concern can be kept under wraps. So one way or the other I expect we’ll know what he's found.

"Beyond that, he may issue more indictments, including the president’s family members. Maybe even the president himself, although that seems unlikely (but not impossible, as some insist). I try to stay away from predictions these days, but given that we know that Mueller has hours of testimony from Michael Cohen, presumably hours more from longtime Trump Organization bagman Allen Weisselberg, and Trump’s tax returns, I’d expect some seriously interesting revelations."

John LeBoutillier, a former Republican congressman from New York, made 30 predictions for 2019 in the Hill, none of which looked good for our president.

LeBoutillier wrote, "Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019" and "Consumer confidence is declining and the American economy will slow noticeably in 2019. A recession is right around the corner, heading into 2020."

My favorite part were the predictions

"12. The Mueller investigation will come to an end in 2019;

"13. Mueller will shock everyone with what he has discovered, and the result will be much worse for Trump than anyone has anticipated;

"14. Yes, Trump indeed knew about the now-infamous June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting — and he lied to the American people repeatedly about it;

"15. Trump lied on Air Force One when he concocted a phony statement about 'adoptions,' because he knew the truth about the meeting;

"16. The Mueller investigation will unveil evidence of Trump putting himself out to the highest bidder in return for campaign help and financing: Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris — there will be evidence that millions of foreign dollars illegally flowed into the Trump campaign coffers in 2016;

"17. In other words, Trump basically said, 'I’m for sale;'

"18. We may learn the source of the $66 million of his own money that Trump donated to his campaign in 2016. Was it a foreign entity who gave him the money as, in effect, an illegal pass-through?"

The Mueller Report was the biggest story in 2019 because the deep state spent 2 years and $20 million-plus investigating the president and it could not find any instance of a crime by him.

None.

He is the cleanest president in history.

And the press cannot stand it.

Don Surber: Press silent on the biggest story of 2019



The way that the left will say the most stupid shit, and then just ignore the fact that it blew up in their face, without any expression of concern or period of introspection afterwards, or even internal debate,


shows that they knew it was shit when they first said it, and thus that we cannot and should not, give ANY CREDIBILITY to anything they ever say.
Well sure..totally agree..of course...the far right does exactly the same thing--thus they also have no credibility.

Both groups of partisans...behave in exactly the same way. It would be amusing..were it not so damn pathetic.

A pox on both their houses.
Actually we whipped our Party's Establishment by electing Trump. I haven't seen Dems accomplish the same.
Yeah..there's not yet been a populist rebellion in the Dem ranks leading to a Progressive, far left President.

Stay tuned.
There is nothing "progressive" about the Progressive movement. It's a regression from our self-rule back into totalitarianism.
 

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