Mr. President
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- Aug 22, 2008
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It depends on the method of execution.
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It is less expensive to care for a prisoner for life then it is to execute one.
I use expense as merely one of many reasons why LWOP is superior to the death penalty. It is less expensive to care for a prisoner for life then it is to execute one.
I use expense as merely one of many reasons why LWOP is superior to the death penalty. It is less expensive to care for a prisoner for life then it is to execute one.
no, it's really not. There is no reason the state should feel compelled to facilitate a red handed killer just because YOU have conscience issues.
I use expense as merely one of many reasons why LWOP is superior to the death penalty. It is less expensive to care for a prisoner for life then it is to execute one.
no, it's really not. There is no reason the state should feel compelled to facilitate a red handed killer just because YOU have conscience issues.
My conscience issues are irrelevant. Execution varies by state. Geography is a bigger determinant than conscience when it comes to execution.
no, it's really not. There is no reason the state should feel compelled to facilitate a red handed killer just because YOU have conscience issues.
My conscience issues are irrelevant. Execution varies by state. Geography is a bigger determinant than conscience when it comes to execution.
indeed, your conscience IS irrelevant. Unfortunately, you would rather let a cold blooded killer leach off of the public than allow the state to extract punishment for murdering some innocent victim. To be honest, you are about as sickening as the killer themselves.
My conscience issues are irrelevant. Execution varies by state. Geography is a bigger determinant than conscience when it comes to execution.
indeed, your conscience IS irrelevant. Unfortunately, you would rather let a cold blooded killer leach off of the public than allow the state to extract punishment for murdering some innocent victim. To be honest, you are about as sickening as the killer themselves.
I prefer LWOP over the death penalty. Vengeance/revenge killings are not justice.
Nonetheless, there is some value in execution when we are able to study the brains of sociopaths and psychopaths. Perhaps there should be an option for those with LWOP to altruistically agree to be executed so that their brains can be studied.
State murders or executions as they are refered to should be shown on TV. Every school child in the country should be forced to watch so that they may understand what state compassion is all about. Let the children watch as a man is murdered by the state, how the hypocrits feed him his last meal and grant him the noble right of having a Minister pray for him as he dies.
The hypocricy of the "system" makes me vomit.
What I dont get about the retribution argument is that executing these people might be a less painful way to die than they otherwise would have endured, or that the rest of us who did not torture and kill somebody can hope for. Does that mean we should torture and kill them? Using a less humane form of capital punishment would deprive the state of any moral high ground. Its possible that society would as a result have a higher appetite and capacity for violence as well. Beyond that its also unconstitutional to inflict what can be called cruel and unusual punishment.
Let's put it THIS way: when the constititon was being penned the term "cruel and unusual" ALLOWED a wide range of options to the state to kill criminals. While an Iron Maiden or Drawing and Quartering might be cruel and unusual, LETHAL INJECTION IS NOT. Hell, people commit suicide in a much more horrible fashion than FALLING ASLEEP LIKE A DOG.
State murders or executions as they are refered to should be shown on TV. Every school child in the country should be forced to watch so that they may understand what state compassion is all about. Let the children watch as a man is murdered by the state, how the hypocrits feed him his last meal and grant him the noble right of having a Minister pray for him as he dies.
The hypocricy of the "system" makes me vomit.
What I dont get about the retribution argument is that executing these people might be a less painful way to die than they otherwise would have endured, or that the rest of us who did not torture and kill somebody can hope for. Does that mean we should torture and kill them? Using a less humane form of capital punishment would deprive the state of any moral high ground. Its possible that society would as a result have a higher appetite and capacity for violence as well. Beyond that its also unconstitutional to inflict what can be called cruel and unusual punishment.
Let's put it THIS way: when the constititon was being penned the term "cruel and unusual" ALLOWED a wide range of options to the state to kill criminals. While an Iron Maiden or Drawing and Quartering might be cruel and unusual, LETHAL INJECTION IS NOT. Hell, people commit suicide in a much more horrible fashion than FALLING ASLEEP LIKE A DOG.
Perhaps I wasn't clear, but what I meant was you are stuck with such painless methods because of the Constitution. But if you're using painless methods for retribution, what's the point?
What I don’t get about the retribution argument is that executing these people might be a less painful way to die than they otherwise would have endured, or that the rest of us who did not torture and kill somebody can hope for. Does that mean we should torture and kill them? Using a less humane form of capital punishment would deprive the state of any moral high ground. It’s possible that society would as a result have a higher appetite and capacity for violence as well. Beyond that it’s also unconstitutional to inflict what can be called cruel and unusual punishment.
Let's put it THIS way: when the constititon was being penned the term "cruel and unusual" ALLOWED a wide range of options to the state to kill criminals. While an Iron Maiden or Drawing and Quartering might be cruel and unusual, LETHAL INJECTION IS NOT. Hell, people commit suicide in a much more horrible fashion than FALLING ASLEEP LIKE A DOG.
Perhaps I wasn't clear, but what I meant was you are stuck with such painless methods because of the Constitution. But if you're using painless methods for retribution, what's the point?
the point is justice. But, I have no problem with going back to hanging or firing squad. Hell, if it's good enough tor dictators and solders then it's good enough for killers.
Perhaps I wasn't clear, but what I meant was you are stuck with such painless methods because of the Constitution. But if you're using painless methods for retribution, what's the point?
the point is justice. But, I have no problem with going back to hanging or firing squad. Hell, if it's good enough tor dictators and solders then it's good enough for killers.
I try to think of what the victim would want. I would think they would usually like their murderer to have to work in prison like a slave paying money to help his/her family that they left behind. And in that case if the person had been innocent at least they have some meaning and purpose to their life.
Methods of execution do have an interesting history, though. Hanging is not especially painful provided it is done correctly so that the neck snaps right away. A botched hanging isn't much worse than the gas chamber, though. Hanging just looks kind of gruesome for people watching compared to lethal injection. Guillotine is pretty humane too, but looks pretty bad. Firing squad, however, would painful. Not on the level of crucifying, breaking on the wheel, burning, or stoning, but pretty bad. The Bible seems to prefer stoning. I always wondered why.