Death Panels..Canadian Style

[Lumpy 1]

After sticking all our youth with our debt and Dem-O-Care..reasonably, you gotta wonder.

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Last week Canada’s Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto family’s decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the family’s choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.

In other words: Canada has death panels.

Canada has death panels, and that?s a good thing.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

After sticking all our youth with our debt and Dem-O-Care..reasonably, you gotta wonder.

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Last week Canada’s Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto family’s decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the family’s choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.

In other words: Canada has death panels.

Canada has death panels, and that?s a good thing.

For those who actually WON'T read the article, and there will be MANY:

".......At issue in the Ontario case was the fate of Hassan Rasouli, a retired engineer who has been comatose in a Toronto hospital since he suffered complications following brain surgery three years ago. When Rasouli’s doctors determined that he had no reasonable prospect of recovery, they sought to pull the plug. His family, convinced that Rasouli was slowly recovering, took his doctors to court.

Last Friday, they won. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled 5–2 that Ontario doctors may not decide to withhold treatment from patients in Rasouli’s condition without consent from the next-in-line decision maker.

In Rasouli’s case, that is his wife. But, if she refuses consent, then her husband’s doctors can still ask for a ruling from Ontario’s Consent and Capacity Board. The Supreme Court confirmed last week that the board has the power to overrule her.""""

""""....But American critics of Canadian health care will declare that merely asking this question is unacceptable, unethical, even unthinkable—and that it proves that the Canadian system gives doctors a dangerous incentive to kill off their patients as quickly as possible. They are wrong.""

Sorry, dumbass. Apparently you don't read either.

 

[bendog]

I realize you are not parroting some RW site for sensational purposes, but the Slate article doesn't make sense. First, it acknowledges that the accepted US practice is when a family of a comatose person, who made no directed care provision prior to incapacity, disagrees with a treating physician's opinion that life support should be terminated, generally courts must decide the issue.

BUT, the article notes the family and the treating physician DISAGREE in this case. That is, it is the same facutal scenario as in the prior set of facts. The only difference is that apparantly in Ontario there's a board of docs, lawyers and lay people.

Consent and Capacity Board

The article honeslty states there's little differnce in having a judge or an administrative board make the decision in that it's still an independent decider in chief.

But then for whackadoodle notions the article then veers off and opinies Canucks trust the gummit more than us, and that's why they don't have guns. WTF?

 

[Lumpy 1]

After sticking all our youth with our debt and Dem-O-Care..reasonably, you gotta wonder.

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Last week Canada’s Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto family’s decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the family’s choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.

In other words: Canada has death panels.

Canada has death panels, and that?s a good thing.

For those who actually WON'T read the article, and there will be MANY:

".......At issue in the Ontario case was the fate of Hassan Rasouli, a retired engineer who has been comatose in a Toronto hospital since he suffered complications following brain surgery three years ago. When Rasouli’s doctors determined that he had no reasonable prospect of recovery, they sought to pull the plug. His family, convinced that Rasouli was slowly recovering, took his doctors to court.

Last Friday, they won. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled 5–2 that Ontario doctors may not decide to withhold treatment from patients in Rasouli’s condition without consent from the next-in-line decision maker.

In Rasouli’s case, that is his wife. But, if she refuses consent, then her husband’s doctors can still ask for a ruling from Ontario’s Consent and Capacity Board. The Supreme Court confirmed last week that the board has the power to overrule her.""""

""""....But American critics of Canadian health care will declare that merely asking this question is unacceptable, unethical, even unthinkable—and that it proves that the Canadian system gives doctors a dangerous incentive to kill off their patients as quickly as possible. They are wrong.""

Sorry, dumbass. Apparently you don't read either.

..I read the article and you missed the point....Big Surprise

 

[tinydancer]

Oh we have death panels. Oh that we do.

Oh and our free health care costs us every mother trucking time we buy something.

It's called the GST. You pay it you little bastards. Every time in your life. I want you to feel this pain liberals.

PAY IT. for your free health care. PAY IT.

 

[Noomi]

After sticking all our youth with our debt and Dem-O-Care..reasonably, you gotta wonder.

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Last week Canada’s Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto family’s decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the family’s choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.

In other words: Canada has death panels.

Canada has death panels, and that?s a good thing.

He is practically dead. He cannot be saved. Keeping him alive drains the healthcare system - the taxpayers. If they want to keep him alive, pay for his treatment. If not, pull the plug.

 

[koshergrl]

Ew.

As I've always said, the death cultists know that they're advocating murder. They just don't care.

 

[Political Junky]

I certainly hope if I were unconscious for 3 years that someone would pull the plug.

 

[Noomi]

Ew.

As I've always said, the death cultists know that they're advocating murder. They just don't care.

He is unresponsive, and practically dead as it is. Pulling the plug will not be murder.

 

[tinydancer]

We are down to 5% on everything in our lives.

We think it's a bonus.

 

[tinydancer]

Ew.

As I've always said, the death cultists know that they're advocating murder. They just don't care.

He is unresponsive, and practically dead as it is. Pulling the plug will not be murder.

In certain religions you can't pull the plug. You just can't do it. It's wrong.

 

[Uncensored2008]

For those who actually WON'T read the article, and there will be MANY:

".......At issue in the Ontario case was the fate of Hassan Rasouli, a retired engineer who has been comatose in a Toronto hospital since he suffered complications following brain surgery three years ago. When Rasouli’s doctors determined that he had no reasonable prospect of recovery, they sought to pull the plug. His family, convinced that Rasouli was slowly recovering, took his doctors to court.

Last Friday, they won. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled 5–2 that Ontario doctors may not decide to withhold treatment from patients in Rasouli’s condition without consent from the next-in-line decision maker.

In Rasouli’s case, that is his wife. But, if she refuses consent, then her husband’s doctors can still ask for a ruling from Ontario’s Consent and Capacity Board. The Supreme Court confirmed last week that the board has the power to overrule her.""""

""""....But American critics of Canadian health care will declare that merely asking this question is unacceptable, unethical, even unthinkable—and that it proves that the Canadian system gives doctors a dangerous incentive to kill off their patients as quickly as possible. They are wrong.""

Sorry, dumbass. Apparently you don't read either.

So, it's EXACTLY as Lumpy said, then?

 

[tinydancer]

I certainly hope if I were unconscious for 3 years that someone would pull the plug.

Then sign away like my mother did.

You give away your life. Thats acceptable.

You give your life away. YOU CHOOSE TO DIE.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I certainly hope if I were unconscious for 3 years that someone would pull the plug.

How about after 3 minutes?

I'm just sayin.....

 

[tinydancer]

No one on this planet gets to choose if I live or die.

 

[francoHFW]

MORE anecdotal, out of context, BS headline hysteria...

 

[tinydancer]

I certainly hope if I were unconscious for 3 years that someone would pull the plug.

How about after 3 minutes?

I'm just sayin.....

Big one in Britain with the Liverpool pathway........................

They got bonus money for offiing people. Its the classic.

What could go wrong?

 

[Noomi]

No one on this planet gets to choose if I live or die.

If you are only being kept alive by a machine, are you really alive?

 

[Lumpy 1]

MORE anecdotalout of conext, BS headline hysteria...

You're in perpetual hysteria..that's what I like about you..

 

[tinydancer]

MORE anecdotalout of conext, BS headline hysteria...

Hey you moron.

Why don't you explain the liverpool pathway to us all.

You just do this.