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Ew.
As I've always said, the death cultists know that they're advocating murder. They just don't care.
He is unresponsive, and practically dead as it is. Pulling the plug will not be murder.
In certain religions you can't pull the plug. You just can't do it. It's wrong.
No one on this planet gets to choose if I live or die.
If you are only being kept alive by a machine, are you really alive?
After sticking all our youth with our debt and Dem-O-Care..reasonably, you gotta wonder.
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Last week Canadas Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto familys decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canadas most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the familys choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.
In other words: Canada has death panels.
Canada has death panels, and that?s a good thing.
For those who actually WON'T read the article, and there will be MANY:
".......At issue in the Ontario case was the fate of Hassan Rasouli, a retired engineer who has been comatose in a Toronto hospital since he suffered complications following brain surgery three years ago. When Rasoulis doctors determined that he had no reasonable prospect of recovery, they sought to pull the plug. His family, convinced that Rasouli was slowly recovering, took his doctors to court.
Last Friday, they won. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled 52 that Ontario doctors may not decide to withhold treatment from patients in Rasoulis condition without consent from the next-in-line decision maker.
In Rasoulis case, that is his wife. But, if she refuses consent, then her husbands doctors can still ask for a ruling from Ontarios Consent and Capacity Board. The Supreme Court confirmed last week that the board has the power to overrule her.""""
""""....But American critics of Canadian health care will declare that merely asking this question is unacceptable, unethical, even unthinkableand that it proves that the Canadian system gives doctors a dangerous incentive to kill off their patients as quickly as possible. They are wrong.""
Sorry, dumbass. Apparently you don't read either.
After sticking all our youth with our debt and Dem-O-Care..reasonably, you gotta wonder.
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Last week Canadas Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto familys decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canadas most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the familys choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.
In other words: Canada has death panels.
Canada has death panels, and that?s a good thing.
No one on this planet gets to choose if I live or die.
If you are only being kept alive by a machine, are you really alive?
I beleive you have a choice. My mother chose to die. But she made that choice. It was one of the worst I ever went through. Because I believed different than her.
But she chose this. I respected her wish. I agonized all the way thru it. One day we will sort it out on the other side but I thought I would die fullfiling her wish.
I do respect my mother's wish though. She made the decision. I fulfilled her wish. As hard as it was. I fullfiled her wish.
He is unresponsive, and practically dead as it is. Pulling the plug will not be murder.
In certain religions you can't pull the plug. You just can't do it. It's wrong.
If someone has been lying in a bed for three YEARS, it is safe to say that there is no hope. Keeping them alive only prolongs the agony of the family, and it prolongs the natural death of someone who should have passed away years before.
My family discussed this issue years ago. We've decided that if something like this happened to us, we'd spend three months on life support, and if, after that time, we hadn't begun to make a recovery, we'd pull the plug.
After sticking all our youth with our debt and Dem-O-Care..reasonably, you gotta wonder.
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Last week Canadas Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto familys decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canadas most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the familys choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.
In other words: Canada has death panels.
Canada has death panels, and that?s a good thing.
For those who actually WON'T read the article, and there will be MANY:
".......At issue in the Ontario case was the fate of Hassan Rasouli, a retired engineer who has been comatose in a Toronto hospital since he suffered complications following brain surgery three years ago. When Rasoulis doctors determined that he had no reasonable prospect of recovery, they sought to pull the plug. His family, convinced that Rasouli was slowly recovering, took his doctors to court.
Last Friday, they won. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled 52 that Ontario doctors may not decide to withhold treatment from patients in Rasoulis condition without consent from the next-in-line decision maker.
In Rasoulis case, that is his wife. But, if she refuses consent, then her husbands doctors can still ask for a ruling from Ontarios Consent and Capacity Board. The Supreme Court confirmed last week that the board has the power to overrule her.""""
""""....But American critics of Canadian health care will declare that merely asking this question is unacceptable, unethical, even unthinkableand that it proves that the Canadian system gives doctors a dangerous incentive to kill off their patients as quickly as possible. They are wrong.""
Sorry, dumbass. Apparently you don't read either.
But they are also only wrong in part.
Ew.
As I've always said, the death cultists know that they're advocating murder. They just don't care.
He is unresponsive, and practically dead as it is. Pulling the plug will not be murder.
No one on this planet gets to choose if I live or die.
If you are only being kept alive by a machine, are you really alive?
If you are only being kept alive by a machine, are you really alive?
I beleive you have a choice. My mother chose to die. But she made that choice. It was one of the worst I ever went through. Because I believed different than her.
But she chose this. I respected her wish. I agonized all the way thru it. One day we will sort it out on the other side but I thought I would die fullfiling her wish.
I do respect my mother's wish though. She made the decision. I fulfilled her wish. As hard as it was. I fullfiled her wish.
That was her wish, what is yours? Do you want to let nature take its course, or stay alive by a machine, just lingering?
IMO the kindest option is to let nature take over.
No one on this planet gets to choose if I live or die.
If you are only being kept alive by a machine, are you really alive?
Ever here of iron lungs? I guess all the people in those wer really dead, even if they could talk to the doctors. We should have just pulled the plugs.
Democrats range from basically "yeah, go ahead" to "Death Panels could never happen"
I guess they haven't been fully informed of what to think yet...
If you are only being kept alive by a machine, are you really alive?
Ever here of iron lungs? I guess all the people in those wer really dead, even if they could talk to the doctors. We should have just pulled the plugs.
They lived in a machine, I would want someone to pull the plug on me.
Ever here of iron lungs? I guess all the people in those wer really dead, even if they could talk to the doctors. We should have just pulled the plugs.
They lived in a machine, I would want someone to pull the plug on me.
But see you could choose.
OK let me do this for you.
A man. A giant of a man reduced to 65 pounds. That was my father. 215 pounds of a truck driver Danny Boone wanting to live.
Never wanting to die. At what point do you say he has no right to live any more? Does anyone have the right to choose if he lives?
But I'll tell you honestly if my father had asked me to take him out I would have. These are horrible questions we face.
Blessedly God took him before I was faced with this question and this answer.
I realize you are not parroting some RW site for sensational purposes, but the Slate article doesn't make sense. First, it acknowledges that the accepted US practice is when a family of a comatose person, who made no directed care provision prior to incapacity, disagrees with a treating physician's opinion that life support should be terminated, generally courts must decide the issue.
BUT, the article notes the family and the treating physician DISAGREE in this case. That is, it is the same facutal scenario as in the prior set of facts. The only difference is that apparantly in Ontario there's a board of docs, lawyers and lay people.
Consent and Capacity Board
The article honeslty states there's little differnce in having a judge or an administrative board make the decision in that it's still an independent decider in chief.
But then for whackadoodle notions the article then veers off and opinies Canucks trust the gummit more than us, and that's why they don't have guns. WTF?
They lived in a machine, I would want someone to pull the plug on me.
But see you could choose.
OK let me do this for you.
A man. A giant of a man reduced to 65 pounds. That was my father. 215 pounds of a truck driver Danny Boone wanting to live.
Never wanting to die. At what point do you say he has no right to live any more? Does anyone have the right to choose if he lives?
But I'll tell you honestly if my father had asked me to take him out I would have. These are horrible questions we face.
Blessedly God took him before I was faced with this question and this answer.
I'm sorry for your loss Tinydancer...I'm certain he loved you deeply as well.
But see you could choose.
OK let me do this for you.
A man. A giant of a man reduced to 65 pounds. That was my father. 215 pounds of a truck driver Danny Boone wanting to live.
Never wanting to die. At what point do you say he has no right to live any more? Does anyone have the right to choose if he lives?
But I'll tell you honestly if my father had asked me to take him out I would have. These are horrible questions we face.
Blessedly God took him before I was faced with this question and this answer.
I'm sorry for your loss Tinydancer...I'm certain he loved you deeply as well.
I was always daddys girl.
He made me tough. I didn't make it through rock n roll without being truck driver tough.
It's true when they say dad's count. I loved him so much and fathers do count big time. Not that my mom wasn't cool. She was awesome too.
After sticking all our youth with our debt and Dem-O-Care..reasonably, you gotta wonder.
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Last week Canada’s Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto family’s decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the family’s choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.
In other words: Canada has death panels.
Canada has death panels, and that?s a good thing.
So? The Bush Administration sued Terri Schiavo's family saying "BIG GUBMINT" should make the decision whether or not to pull the plug on a loved one. And that the family's wishes no longer count.
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