DACA is DONE! More proof that your POTUS puts Americans First!

Trump has chosen his sides. He sides with white supremacists and 30% of voters. Will Republicans commit electoral suicide? Democrats should use every important piece of legislation such as the Texas relief bill, debt ceiling bill, and budget bill to save DACA.
Trump has chosen his sides. He sides with white supremacists and 30% of voters. Will Republicans commit electoral suicide? Democrats should use every important piece of legislation such as the Texas relief bill, debt ceiling bill, and budget bill to save DACA.
The country can not afford DACA... Its a diminishing return.
And what exactly is the DACA costing anybody?
DACA encourages illegal immigrants to cross into our country and illegal immigration costs the US tax payers billions every year. Not to mention you have third world cultures coming in a effecting our elections. Its a really terrible situation that needs to be addressed. It does suck for a lot of these people who will be kicked out, but we dont really have much of a choice, if we want to have secure borders.

The parents who put these DACA kids in this situation bear much of the responsibility for it.
 
Trump has chosen his sides. He sides with white supremacists and 30% of voters. Will Republicans commit electoral suicide? Democrats should use every important piece of legislation such as the Texas relief bill, debt ceiling bill, and budget bill to save DACA.
Trump has chosen his sides. He sides with white supremacists and 30% of voters. Will Republicans commit electoral suicide? Democrats should use every important piece of legislation such as the Texas relief bill, debt ceiling bill, and budget bill to save DACA.
The country can not afford DACA... Its a diminishing return.
And what exactly is the DACA costing anybody?
DACA encourages illegal immigrants to cross into our country and illegal immigration costs the US tax payers billions every year. Not to mention you have third world cultures coming in a effecting our elections. Its a really terrible situation that needs to be addressed. It does suck for a lot of these people who will be kicked out, but we dont really have much of a choice, if we want to have secure borders.

The parents who put these DACA kids in this situation bear much of the responsibility for it.
Just a few observations

1. While I realize that there is a considerable amount of conflicting information about the economic impact of undocumented people being here, those who want to kick them out rarely if ever provide documentation from a credible source that supports their position. Therefor it amounts to nothing more than an appeal to ignorance logical fallacy. Here is a source that contradicts your assertion:

In this Council Special Report, Professor Gordon H. Hanson of the University of California, San Diego approaches immigration through the lens of economics. The results are surprising. By focusing on the economic costs and benefits of legal and illegal immigration, Professor Hanson concludes that stemming illegal immigration would likely lead to a net drain on the U.S. economy—a finding that calls into question many of the proposals to increase funding for border protection. The Economic Logic of Illegal Immigration

2. Stating that the DCAC encourages illegal immigration is just another appeal to ignorance with nothing to substantiate it. They were coming in long before there was a DACA and there is no indication or proof that they come because the children might be allowed to stay.

3. They don't effect our election unless you believe the lying and delusional Orange Ogre's debunked claim that millions of illegal's voted

Therefore YOU get THREE bovine excrements for your post
 
If you hate America, leave If you are here illegally, come back legally If you are American, support your country Just. Stop. Whining.
 
DACA is unfair. DACA is unconstitutional. DACA is unAmerican. spare us, liberals, the lectures on compassion.
 
The 6 month delay seems like there will be a well deserved amnesty down the line. Although I'm not sure if "amnesty" is the correct word if applied to a non-citizen that entered the country as a toddler, plus "amnesty " carries bad political connotation and so they'll call something more politically correct. I'm guessing they'll also tie the legislation to construction of the wall to avoid repeating Reagan's mistake.

What's well deserved about ignoring someone's illegal status?
 
I'll play....REAL American's hold themselves to a higher standard...most spend their lives becoming better and doing better. These REAL American's take great pride in self and country. They tend to be hard working, moral folks with firm family values. They "pay it forward" by exhausting all effort parenting their children and doing right.
You see, it's a behavioral thing...standing on this soil does not make one an American in the eyes of REAL American's. Reading this makes you want to roll up in the fetal position and cry as Liberals believe simply breathing oxygen here qualifies one as a great American.

I can't believe you posted that with a straight face. Your description of a "real American" pretty much defined the typical immigrant family. They spend their lives becoming better and doing better because, hell, THAT IS WHY THEY CAME HERE. They take great pride in their self and country, they actually volunteer for the military at higher percentages than native Americans and most of second generation immigrants raise their children bilingual. They are hard working, in fact, studies have indicated that immigrants place a greater importance on hard work and career success than native Americans. Which happens to be crucial to your and my retirement. Over ninety percent of the growth of the future labor force through 2050 will come from immigrants and their American born children. They will be paying our Social Security checks. Truth is, without our immigrant population we would be looking at a negative birth rate, in other words, a dwindling and dying population. Not to mention the typical native raised twenty something male would rather play video games and live in his parent's basement than work a fulltime job.

And you don't even want to get me started on exhausting all their effort parenting children. The typical native pays daycare centers and babysitters to raise their children as both parents work to keep up with the Joneses demonstrating that keeping up with the Joneses is more important than raising their children. Immigrants are more likely to be stay at home mothers. In fact, Asian and Hispanic families are twice as likely to have a stay at home parent than native Americans

In fact, the only people rolling up in a fetal position and crying are all those short sighted, ignorant, racist conservatives who are AFRAID of competing with hard working driven immigrants and their disciplined children.

Dear Winston Chavez Rodriguez Fernandez,
I don't know how you crazies come up with the shit you come up with. Is this one of those; " I know this ONE awesome family" sort of things?
The average Hispanic family in CA looks like this:
Gustavo and Guadalupe have 4-6 children born in the U.S. all attending public schools. Gustavo works for $10 dollars an hour and averages 50 hours per week, Gustavo grosses $500 per week in income, cash, no taxes withheld.
Guadalupe is a stay at home mother.
The cost to attend a public school in CA is $10,600 per year per child. The cost of child birth in CA is $10,000. Gustavo and Guadalupe get housing assistance, EBT, welfare, health coverage...etc etc all compliments of hard working real American taxpayers. I won't list all the other direct and indirect expenses related to Gustavo's family as it would be retarded and a waste of time. Do your own math bud....YOU'RE CONFUSED!
Further, drive through any predominantly Hispanic community...they're complete shitholes....trash and filth line the streets, front yards look like junk yards....Gustavo throws his Modello cans out the window of his piece of shit uninsured 1980's Toyota pickup while Guadalupe throws dirty diapers out the passenger side....pit bulls and chihuahuas abused and running the streets, graffiti, bright yellow shithole homes. 40 year old Gustavo stares at my 14 year old daughter like a Lion stares down its prey in the wild. These people are shameless human cockroaches...they degrade every neighborhood they inhabit...they don't know any better...they're thirdworlders and that's what they do.
Sorry bud...but the fictional stereotype you've fabricated in your tiny little mind could be further from accurate.




Low-life scumbag bigots like this ^^^^^^ are why every discussion of this topic turns to shit.

Why are you so against total clarity, proven data and facts? Does it bother you than I'm candid about it? Should I dress it up for you?




You post that embarrassing, third-grade failure of bigoted fiction then whine about "facts" and "clarity "? What a fucking joke.
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The entirety of your last few posts:

1) LOL @ racist idiots who don't understand History.

2) If the OP imagines itself to be decent, moral, or a human being, that's the biggest joke of all.

3) What a load of crap.

4) YOU got a problem, weakling.

5) Low-life scumbag bigots like this ^^^^^^ are why every discussion of this topic turns to shit.

Nothing but attacks on the messenger and nothing for the message. You coward.

And here is the ultimate hypocrisy. A post of yours mixed in with the above Horse-Shit:

"If you can't discuss the topic without resorting to slurs, STFU."

You are embarrassing yourself, and contributing nothing to this board except childishness.
 
"The Republicans will get zero credit for passing immigration reform—and I said zero!

Re: immigration. Do the Republicans not realize that Dems will get 100% of 11 million votes no matter what they do?" - Trump in 2013
 
I'm not anti-immigrant. I am anti-illegal. Fair, decent, law-abiding, big-hearted Americans know the difference.
 
I agree with CNN. The Dreamers must not be forced to grow up in Trump's Nazi KKK America. Let them go home

Free the Dreamers!
 
Reality Check for haters!!

Hundreds of business leaders call on Trump to protect 'dreamers'

Hundreds of business executives -- from Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon and other companies -- are calling upon President Trump to preserve an Obama-era program that allows children brought to the United States illegally to live and work without punishment.

The national coalition on Thursday petitioned Trump to rethink his plans to scrap the five-year-old Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program as early as Friday.


Doing so would imperil the economy and jeopardize the futures of nearly 800,000 young people, known as "dreamers" - 97 percent of whom are in school or in the workforce, they wrote.
 
DACA has been ruled Unconstitutional by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Trump has given Congress six months to come up with a Constitutional remedy ((i.e., legislation).

Comprende?
 
Reality Check for haters!!

Hundreds of business leaders call on Trump to protect 'dreamers'

Hundreds of business executives -- from Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon and other companies -- are calling upon President Trump to preserve an Obama-era program that allows children brought to the United States illegally to live and work without punishment.

The national coalition on Thursday petitioned Trump to rethink his plans to scrap the five-year-old Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program as early as Friday.


Doing so would imperil the economy and jeopardize the futures of nearly 800,000 young people, known as "dreamers" - 97 percent of whom are in school or in the workforce, they wrote.

What haters? Why is it hate? Intellectually lazy bullshit again.
 
Reality Check for haters!!

Hundreds of business leaders call on Trump to protect 'dreamers'

Hundreds of business executives -- from Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon and other companies -- are calling upon President Trump to preserve an Obama-era program that allows children brought to the United States illegally to live and work without punishment.

The national coalition on Thursday petitioned Trump to rethink his plans to scrap the five-year-old Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program as early as Friday.


Doing so would imperil the economy and jeopardize the futures of nearly 800,000 young people, known as "dreamers" - 97 percent of whom are in school or in the workforce, they wrote.

What haters? Why is it hate? Intellectually lazy bullshit again.
People who have known no are land, who are productive members of society and contribute to the economy are being targeted because some people do not like foreigners -especially dark skinned Latinos. What other motive besides hate is there? Oh OK, maybe willful ignorance or abject stupidity.
 
Let's cut the baloney. The blame for the "dreamers" plight lies with the parents. They placed their children in harms way when the came here in violation of our laws. It also lies with the Democrats who enabled them with sanctuary cities and other benefits.

All Trump did was revoke the "Executive Order" allowing these illegal alien children to stay. Executive orders are always temporary.

Trump showed a great deal of compassion by giving Congress 6 months to act. If Congress wants to allow these kids to stay, pass a law! That is how our system works.

Sorry that doesn't fit the "hate" narrative that the left is pimping....
 
People who have known no are land, who are productive members of society and contribute to the economy are being targeted because some people do not like foreigners -especially dark skinned Latinos. What other motive besides hate is there? Oh OK, maybe willful ignorance or abject stupidity.

Speaking of abject stupidity, you appear to be unaware of the U.S. Constitutional and the rule of law. DACA has been ruled Unconstitutional, so these "dreamers" are NOW subject to deportation. President Trump has given them a six month reprieve in order for Congress to provide a Constitutional remedy. Would you prefer that he just follow the law and deport them?

Why don't you give the "hate" BS a rest and do a little studying of the matter?
 
Reality Check for haters!!

Hundreds of business leaders call on Trump to protect 'dreamers'

Hundreds of business executives -- from Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon and other companies -- are calling upon President Trump to preserve an Obama-era program that allows children brought to the United States illegally to live and work without punishment.

The national coalition on Thursday petitioned Trump to rethink his plans to scrap the five-year-old Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program as early as Friday.


Doing so would imperil the economy and jeopardize the futures of nearly 800,000 young people, known as "dreamers" - 97 percent of whom are in school or in the workforce, they wrote.

What haters? Why is it hate? Intellectually lazy bullshit again.
People who have known no are land, who are productive members of society and contribute to the economy are being targeted because some people do not like foreigners -especially dark skinned Latinos. What other motive besides hate is there? Oh OK, maybe willful ignorance or abject stupidity.

Why can they not like illegals? If they respect the law, everyone should, and it is their country too. So it is not about hate it is about the future of their(Americans) children and many of those are people of color.

You cannot give something away that is not yours, don't you just HATE that?
 
Those little brown shithead gangbangers that the racist asshole Obama let flood into the country in order to dilute the White vote and influence are not the only "dreamers" in this country.

We have real American children that also dream to live in a country that isn't flooded with taco shitheads that march around with the Mexican flag trying to turn the whole country into a California type commie state so that they can continue to get welfare.

The real American children dream that they will live in a country that doesn't have Obama's increased poverty, decreased family income, tremendous debt and dismal economic growth while his goddamn "dreamers" are getting government welfare just because they are Brown and potential Democrat voters..

Not only was the DACA program illegal but it was a despicable thing for Obama to do to this country. That is what these Moon Bats got by electing an affirmative action worthless Muslim like Obama.

God bless Trump for doing away with the despicable program.
 

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