Court Docs show the shooter hated christians, Trump, and was a registered democrat....

Talk about deception....quotes from the 90’s....no context....even Rahm’s quote is talking about banning a particular class of guns. Not all guns.
I Guess all the people on the left running for President that have said they want to ban all firearms are not Democrats and ,leaders of the party right MORON?

Now, you claim all the Democratic hopefuls for the nomination want to ban all guns. You got a link, or several links that show all those people want to ban all guns? You're making a lot of crazy claims, but haven't backed up any of them. Why not?
Again you liar I did not say all, I said a group of the more prominent ones have IN FACT said so. and you know it is true that is why you keep playing word games.

Come on you big bag of wind. You claim your guns are in danger of being confiscated, but you haven't shown any reason a sane person should believe that. Why not?


The democrat party leadership has stated they want to ban guns.....they appoint anti-gun judges to the court, in particular, Ruth Bader Ginsberg who intends on over turning Heller if she gets a chance...

The democrats learned in the 1990s that going directly for the 2nd Amendment with congressional action lost seats in Congress.....so now they attack the 2nd Amendment at the local and state level, and then use anti-gun judges in the Federal Courts of Appeal to uphold unConstitutional rulings....rulings that go against the 2nd Amendment and 2nd Amendment legal precedent......

So sell your crap somewhere else.....we know their strategy, you want to deny it....

Don't Apologize For Blurting Out The Truth, Justice Ginsburg

Furthermore, she also revealed that her mind is made up on possible future cases that could come before the Court. She wants a chance to overrule the big Second Amendment decision District of Columbia v. Heller, for one.

Again, if the Democratic leadership, as a body, has stated they want to ban guns, you shouldn't have a problem providing a credible link showing that. Otherwise. it's just more crazy gun nut claims.
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.


So, you are mad the Trump followed the dictates of the ACLU? And the other 23 organizations that didn't want people with insomnia to be labled as crazy?

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

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The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community. This is about more than guns.

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

Wrong, you need to read the law again. The law said that people who were on SSI and deemed to have mental illness so severe that they could not even properly take care of their own finances were to be flagged in the federal background check system.

What you just posted has nothing to do with that. Like usual you just post a wall of text without reading it.
Wrong as usual the criteria was JUST to have SSI and have someone manage it for you. There are tons of reasons why SS may decide you need someone to manage your finances. Mine was because they misunderstood my condition and I did not oppose it cause they gave me disability. I have depression and paranoia but am capable of handling my own finances.
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.


So, you are mad the Trump followed the dictates of the ACLU? And the other 23 organizations that didn't want people with insomnia to be labled as crazy?

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

--------------------------
The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community. This is about more than guns.

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

Wrong, you need to read the law again. The law said that people who were on SSI and deemed to have mental illness so severe that they could not even properly take care of their own finances were to be flagged in the federal background check system.

What you just posted has nothing to do with that. Like usual you just post a wall of text without reading it.
Wrong as usual the criteria was JUST to have SSI and have someone manage it for you. There are tons of reasons why SS may decide you need someone to manage your finances. Mine was because they misunderstood my condition and I did not oppose it cause they gave me disability. I have depression and paranoia but am capable of handling my own finances.

Wrong, and you need to read the law again. Nothing that was posted is even remotely close to that.

I take that back, I assumed you read it in the first place, so saying again was an assumption. For that I apologize.
 
Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.


So, you are mad the Trump followed the dictates of the ACLU? And the other 23 organizations that didn't want people with insomnia to be labled as crazy?

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

--------------------------
The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community. This is about more than guns.

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

Wrong, you need to read the law again. The law said that people who were on SSI and deemed to have mental illness so severe that they could not even properly take care of their own finances were to be flagged in the federal background check system.

What you just posted has nothing to do with that. Like usual you just post a wall of text without reading it.
Wrong as usual the criteria was JUST to have SSI and have someone manage it for you. There are tons of reasons why SS may decide you need someone to manage your finances. Mine was because they misunderstood my condition and I did not oppose it cause they gave me disability. I have depression and paranoia but am capable of handling my own finances.

Wrong, and you need to read the law again. Nothing that was posted is even remotely close to that.
Yes it is the requirement was JUST that you had SS and had someone assigned to manage your finances, you can lie about it all you want there was no test no requirement and no set up to determine who was mentally anything.
 
Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.


So, you are mad the Trump followed the dictates of the ACLU? And the other 23 organizations that didn't want people with insomnia to be labled as crazy?

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

--------------------------
The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community. This is about more than guns.

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

Wrong, you need to read the law again. The law said that people who were on SSI and deemed to have mental illness so severe that they could not even properly take care of their own finances were to be flagged in the federal background check system.

What you just posted has nothing to do with that. Like usual you just post a wall of text without reading it.
Wrong as usual the criteria was JUST to have SSI and have someone manage it for you. There are tons of reasons why SS may decide you need someone to manage your finances. Mine was because they misunderstood my condition and I did not oppose it cause they gave me disability. I have depression and paranoia but am capable of handling my own finances.

Wrong, and you need to read the law again. Nothing that was posted is even remotely close to that.
Yes it is the requirement was JUST that you had SS and had someone assigned to manage your finances, you can lie about it all you want there was no test no requirement and no set up to determine who was mentally anything.

If someone is SO mentally ill that not only does that illness allow them to receive Social Security benefits, they can't handle their own finances... you think a person that is that mentally disabled they should own a gun?

THAT'S what the law said. THAT'S what I said the law said. That only effected about 75,000 people across the country to own guns, but affected the safety of countless people across the country.
 
Again that IS NOT the criteria for the SS assigning a person to control your finances. I know it happened to me.

I know this is difficult for you to understand... This was for people that were approved for SS for MENTAL ILLNESS that were decided to be so mentally ill that they were assigned other people to handle their finances.
 
Again that IS NOT the criteria for the SS assigning a person to control your finances. I know it happened to me.

I know this is difficult for you to understand... This was for people that were approved for SS for MENTAL ILLNESS that were decided to be so mentally ill that they were assigned other people to handle their finances.
Again DUMBFUCK the law said ANYONE receiving Social Security disability or other payments that had a person assigned to control their finances was barred.
 
So, you are mad the Trump followed the dictates of the ACLU? And the other 23 organizations that didn't want people with insomnia to be labled as crazy?

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

--------------------------
The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community. This is about more than guns.

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

Wrong, you need to read the law again. The law said that people who were on SSI and deemed to have mental illness so severe that they could not even properly take care of their own finances were to be flagged in the federal background check system.

What you just posted has nothing to do with that. Like usual you just post a wall of text without reading it.
Wrong as usual the criteria was JUST to have SSI and have someone manage it for you. There are tons of reasons why SS may decide you need someone to manage your finances. Mine was because they misunderstood my condition and I did not oppose it cause they gave me disability. I have depression and paranoia but am capable of handling my own finances.

Wrong, and you need to read the law again. Nothing that was posted is even remotely close to that.
Yes it is the requirement was JUST that you had SS and had someone assigned to manage your finances, you can lie about it all you want there was no test no requirement and no set up to determine who was mentally anything.

If someone is SO mentally ill that not only does that illness allow them to receive Social Security benefits, they can't handle their own finances... you think a person that is that mentally disabled they should own a gun?

THAT'S what the law said. THAT'S what I said the law said. That only effected about 75,000 people across the country to own guns, but affected the safety of countless people across the country.


And how many of those people who would have been affected have now gone on to commit murder? 75,000 people you wanted to strip of their Rights on nothing but your dislike of their owning guns...... The ACLU says you are an idiot, along with 23 other Mental Health groups.
 
Wrong, you need to read the law again. The law said that people who were on SSI and deemed to have mental illness so severe that they could not even properly take care of their own finances were to be flagged in the federal background check system.

What you just posted has nothing to do with that. Like usual you just post a wall of text without reading it.
Wrong as usual the criteria was JUST to have SSI and have someone manage it for you. There are tons of reasons why SS may decide you need someone to manage your finances. Mine was because they misunderstood my condition and I did not oppose it cause they gave me disability. I have depression and paranoia but am capable of handling my own finances.

Wrong, and you need to read the law again. Nothing that was posted is even remotely close to that.
Yes it is the requirement was JUST that you had SS and had someone assigned to manage your finances, you can lie about it all you want there was no test no requirement and no set up to determine who was mentally anything.

If someone is SO mentally ill that not only does that illness allow them to receive Social Security benefits, they can't handle their own finances... you think a person that is that mentally disabled they should own a gun?

THAT'S what the law said. THAT'S what I said the law said. That only effected about 75,000 people across the country to own guns, but affected the safety of countless people across the country.


And how many of those people who would have been affected have now gone on to commit murder? 75,000 people you wanted to strip of their Rights on nothing but your dislike of their owning guns...... The ACLU says you are an idiot, along with 23 other Mental Health groups.

I like how the ACLU is your friend, on this issue... is this the first time you've ever supported their position?

I don't know how many of them went on to commit murder because I don't spend every waking day scouring the news for every person killed with a gun, and most of the time unless it is a mass shooting murders aren't national news.
 
It makes even more sense after socialists murdered over 100 million, innocent, unarmed men, women and children for no other reason than they wanted to tell them how to live.......and keep doing it whenever they get total control over a country....

Hey, dummy, human beings have killed each other ever since the first caveman picked up a rock and brained another one.

The idea is not to make it easier.
 
No they haven't.......making things up doesn't make them true.

Yes, they did... when the court refused to overturn laws banning Machine Guns, in subsequent decisions.
Machine guns are legal in 37 States. But no one on the Supreme Court ever said Machine Guns were covered by the 2nd. No recent ruling changed that and it wasn't even thought it did.
 
Machine guns are legal in 37 States. But no one on the Supreme Court ever said Machine Guns were covered by the 2nd. No recent ruling changed that and it wasn't even thought it did.

Exactly... some gun nut challenged the laws... and the court said, "Um, no."
That's because they NEVER said machine guns were covered by the 2nd, claiming cause they turned him away proves they are on weak grounds is Ignorant as hell.
 
That's because they NEVER said machine guns were covered by the 2nd, claiming cause they turned him away proves they are on weak grounds is Ignorant as hell.

But you miss the point entirely. If you accept that the Second Amendment is there in case you needs to fights you the Gummit, why can't you have a machine gun? The Gummit has Machine guns.
 

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