Court Docs show the shooter hated christians, Trump, and was a registered democrat....

Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
/—-/ I’m proving examples of how a mental illness test can be misused when gun grabbers are in power. Sorry it was too subtle for you to grasp.
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
/—-/ I’m proving examples of how a mental illness test can be misused when gun grabbers are in power. Sorry it was too subtle for you to grasp.


No you're proving how you don't grasp it one fucking bit. Should a vet with severe PTSD that completely looses it when there is a loud noise like a firecracker or a plate falling off a table have a gun? Not A VET, a vet with SEVERE PTSD? Do you understand the difference? I doubt it because that doesn't fit the narrative you want to believe.
 
Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
/—-/ I’m proving examples of how a mental illness test can be misused when gun grabbers are in power. Sorry it was too subtle for you to grasp.


No you're proving how you don't grasp it one fucking bit. Should a vet with severe PTSD that completely looses it when there is a loud noise like a firecracker or a plate falling off a table have a gun? Not A VET, a vet with SEVERE PTSD? Do you understand the difference? I doubt it because that doesn't fit the narrative you want to believe.
LOL the left has proven they can twist any law they want to mean anything they want. The law would have been used to deny all Vets firearms under a democrat.
 
The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
You should expect him to continue to do this until you understand you've accepted a lie.
 
Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
/—-/ I’m proving examples of how a mental illness test can be misused when gun grabbers are in power. Sorry it was too subtle for you to grasp.


No you're proving how you don't grasp it one fucking bit. Should a vet with severe PTSD that completely looses it when there is a loud noise like a firecracker or a plate falling off a table have a gun? Not A VET, a vet with SEVERE PTSD? Do you understand the difference? I doubt it because that doesn't fit the narrative you want to believe.
LOL the left has proven they can twist any law they want to mean anything they want. The law would have been used to deny all Vets firearms under a democrat.

Really? Show some examples where this has happened that hasn't been overturned by the courts, including one that is in the fucking Bill of rights.

Jesus. It's all well and good until you have a loved one that commits suicide that shouldn't have a gun, or a loved one is killed by a person with mental illness that shouldn't have a gun.

I can't argue with people that have zero grasp on reality.
 
The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
You should expect him to continue to do this until you understand you've accepted a lie.

Accepted a lie? What is the #1 cause of death by guns in the U.S.?
 
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
/—-/ I’m proving examples of how a mental illness test can be misused when gun grabbers are in power. Sorry it was too subtle for you to grasp.


No you're proving how you don't grasp it one fucking bit. Should a vet with severe PTSD that completely looses it when there is a loud noise like a firecracker or a plate falling off a table have a gun? Not A VET, a vet with SEVERE PTSD? Do you understand the difference? I doubt it because that doesn't fit the narrative you want to believe.
LOL the left has proven they can twist any law they want to mean anything they want. The law would have been used to deny all Vets firearms under a democrat.

Really? Show some examples where this has happened that hasn't been overturned by the courts, including one that is in the fucking Bill of rights.

Jesus. It's all well and good until you have a loved one that commits suicide that shouldn't have a gun, or a loved one is killed by a person with mental illness that shouldn't have a gun.

I can't argue with people that have zero grasp on reality.
Ohh so it is ok that I should have to o to court waste my time and money defending myself from illegal claims made? That makes it ok? As for suicide that is a personal choice and has nothing to do with firearms control. The absence of a firearm will NOT stop a suicide.
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.


Are you dumb, or do you just pretend to be this dumb when you post.

The left wants to take guns away from people they fear, want to control, and will one day end up killing because they can't stand that they are alive.......it happens in every country the left takes over with complete control.....
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.


Are you dumb, or do you just pretend to be this dumb when you post.

The left wants to take guns away from people they fear, want to control, and will one day end up killing because they can't stand that they are alive.......it happens in every country the left takes over with complete control.....

Oh ok, I get it now. So all the laws they have been proposing says, "We want to ban the ownership of AR-15's and other military style rifles from Trump supporters and other non-liberals." I get it now.

Could you show me? I'd love to see that.
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.


So, you are mad the Trump followed the dictates of the ACLU? And the other 23 organizations that didn't want people with insomnia to be labled as crazy?

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

--------------------------
The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community. This is about more than guns.

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.
 
Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
/—-/ I’m proving examples of how a mental illness test can be misused when gun grabbers are in power. Sorry it was too subtle for you to grasp.


No you're proving how you don't grasp it one fucking bit. Should a vet with severe PTSD that completely looses it when there is a loud noise like a firecracker or a plate falling off a table have a gun? Not A VET, a vet with SEVERE PTSD? Do you understand the difference? I doubt it because that doesn't fit the narrative you want to believe.


we understand the difference, the anti gunners would use one to disarm all the others....the Vets who don't loose it when there is a loud noise, but simply see a counselor to readjust to civilian life.....

Anti-gunners will exploit any illness to take guns away from a normal person...
 
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
/—-/ I’m proving examples of how a mental illness test can be misused when gun grabbers are in power. Sorry it was too subtle for you to grasp.


No you're proving how you don't grasp it one fucking bit. Should a vet with severe PTSD that completely looses it when there is a loud noise like a firecracker or a plate falling off a table have a gun? Not A VET, a vet with SEVERE PTSD? Do you understand the difference? I doubt it because that doesn't fit the narrative you want to believe.
LOL the left has proven they can twist any law they want to mean anything they want. The law would have been used to deny all Vets firearms under a democrat.

Really? Show some examples where this has happened that hasn't been overturned by the courts, including one that is in the fucking Bill of rights.

Jesus. It's all well and good until you have a loved one that commits suicide that shouldn't have a gun, or a loved one is killed by a person with mental illness that shouldn't have a gun.

I can't argue with people that have zero grasp on reality.


Here....the 4th Circuit ignored the Supreme Court ruling in Heller...knowing that the Supreme Court was divided 4-4.....

The Conspiracy To Dismember Heller

The consequences of the ruling cannot be overstated. In essence, the 4th Circuit has contrived a brand-new constitutional “test,” the practical effect of which is the removal of Second Amendment protection from any firearm that a judge happens not to like.

In Heller, the Supreme Court took three related positions:

First, that firearms “in common use” may not be banned;

second, that while “dangerous” arms may be regulated, only those that are “unusual” in addition are eligible for prohibition; and

third, that a government may not ban certain types of guns on the understanding that other types remain available.

In a follow-up case, Caetano v. Massachusetts, Justice Samuel Alito stated in his concurrence that “the relative dangerousness of a weapon is irrelevant when the weapon belongs to a class of arms commonly used for lawful purposes.”


Disgracefully, the 4th Circuit ignored all these prescriptions—which it was duty-bound to follow—electing instead to devise its own rule: that if a weapon is “most useful in military service,” it enjoys no constitutional protection.

In so doing, the court thumbed its nose at its superiors and quietly rewrote the law for millions of American
 
Sounds like they suffered from mental illness... the rest mentioned doesn't matter, and is nothing but fodder and a sad attempt by certain people to take a tragic event and turn it into a political talking point.

For fuck's sake you really think someone was shooting people over pronouns? And Trump? And whatever else? :rolleyes:

If that were true there would be 10,000 shootings per day every day.

I'm AMAZED how super die hard over the line pro-gun people complain in one thread how liberals want to take away everyone's guns, and then turn around and create threads like this one about how violent people on the left are and how they have guns and shoot people. Which is it?!?! Even they want to get rid of EVERYONE'S guns then why do they have their own and are using them?


Moron....please try to study history.....

The left takes guns away from the people they want to control, and those they eventually feel they need to kill to make their societies better. The socialists in charge of those governments made sure they had guns, and made sure their victims didn't have guns.... since 1917, over 100 million people murdered by their governments when socialists had total power....

They don't want to get rid of everyone's guns, you moron, only the people they want to control or murder.


Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.


So, you are mad the Trump followed the dictates of the ACLU? And the other 23 organizations that didn't want people with insomnia to be labled as crazy?

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

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The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community. This is about more than guns.

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

Wrong, you need to read the law again. The law said that people who were on SSI and deemed to have mental illness so severe that they could not even properly take care of their own finances were to be flagged in the federal background check system.

What you just posted has nothing to do with that. Like usual you just post a wall of text without reading it.
 
Study history? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND?

Do leftist want to take AWAY ALL GUNS? Or are the violent people who like to shoot up people for stupid shit like pronouns?

Instead you should be focusing on the fact A LOT of the shooters suffer from serious mental illness and shouldn't even have guns, and despite that one of the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.

Where does a large majority of gun deaths come from? Suicide... by people with mental illness. What are one of the biggest factors involving active shooters today? Mental illness.

The only moron here is the one that spends all day searching news articles in the UK, Australia, and other countries for crimes involving guns to post them here instead of studying what really matters.
/——-/ “the VERY FIRST BILLS Trump signed was to return gun ownership back to people with mental illness.”
You’re a Climate denier? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re pro-life? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a Republican? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. You’re a veteran? You’re mentally ill. No gun for you. Savvy that?

How about you quote what I ACTUALLY said? "one of the VERY FIRST BILLS."

I take it you haven't read the law because that isn't remotely what it was about.

Pretty piss poor false equivalency.
/—-/ I’m proving examples of how a mental illness test can be misused when gun grabbers are in power. Sorry it was too subtle for you to grasp.


No you're proving how you don't grasp it one fucking bit. Should a vet with severe PTSD that completely looses it when there is a loud noise like a firecracker or a plate falling off a table have a gun? Not A VET, a vet with SEVERE PTSD? Do you understand the difference? I doubt it because that doesn't fit the narrative you want to believe.


we understand the difference, the anti gunners would use one to disarm all the others....the Vets who don't loose it when there is a loud noise, but simply see a counselor to readjust to civilian life.....

Anti-gunners will exploit any illness to take guns away from a normal person...

No, you don't understand that difference because you just made a claim and when asked to back it up you responded with this dribble.
 

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