Could Guns Really Be Effectively Banned in America?

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by Robert Wenzel

Economic Policy Journal





In this post, I will not discuss the very strong libertarian philosophical arguments as to why individuals should be allowed to carry guns. Instead, I want to take a look at the practical issue.
Suppose Congress passed legislation that banned all guns. Legislation so strong that it required that all guns be turned in. There are 285 million guns in the United States. I wonder how many of those guns would be turned in.

The most conscientious law abiding citizens might turn them in, but the bad guys won't. So that means bad guys will have even more of an edge. If they want to rob, they are going to know their upstanding citizen/prospective-victim walking down the street is most likely unarmed.

A ban on guns is really legislation that helps out the bad guys. It is the equivalent of a TSA policy that would allow no one to carry guns on board a plane – other than terrorists. Even the TSA isn't that nuts.

I wonder, if people, calling for a ban on guns, have really thought out their position. It just doesn't make sense. Guns won't be effectively banned – only guns owned by the good people will be turned in.

And, of course, anything less than a full ban will make for even greater problems. Gun control programs won't stop the determined from getting guns. The shooter, Adam Lanza , in the shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, simply grabbed the guns properly registered in his mother's name. How did that deterrent work out?

If a "full ban" were enacted, it would be as easy to buy guns on the black market in any big city as it is now to buy drugs or for illegals to buy fake IDs.

Are the people calling for bans or more controls actually thinking this out?

The only solution for dealing with guns is not gun controls but gun freedom. The shootings at Sandy Hook were in a "gun free" zone. The only ones that observed that law are the dead teachers, not the bad guy, Adam Lanza.

Chicago bans most from carrying guns and yet gun toting gang-bangers shoot it out nearly every night in Rahmaland.

I'm not calling for any policy that calls for schools, or any other public institutions, to be required to handle protection in any certain way. Let each institution choose for itself.

The smart solution, though, to the gun problem is gun freedom. Those who want to carry guns should be allowed to do so, then the bad guys will have to think twice. Right now, about the only time we hear about a bad guy getting caught in the act of a street robbery is when he attempts to rob an FBI agent. The agents nab them because they are carrying. But street robberies turned bad for the robber are so infrequent that the FBI collars make the news. If robbers ran into gun carriers regularly, robberies would plunge.

Bottom line: Those who want to ban guns, or certain types of guns, really aren't thinking things out. The fact of the matter is that bad guys will continue to use guns. The solution isn't screaming at the top of ones lung to ban or control guns. The solution is to find ways to protect oneself against gun carrying bad guys – and that is a lot easier to do if you are free to own and carry any guns you want.

Could Guns Really Be Effectively Banned in America? by Robert Wenzel
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

Yes there are people looking for a total ban, they are just smart enough not to say it.

The one ban that may try to gain traction is a ban on semi automatic rifles, given the scary boo boo name "assault rifle."
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

No shit. There NRA whack jobs are just an all or nothing bunch of idiots.

Either we all need to be carrying or the guvmint is gonna take away ALL guns.

Fuking idiots.

And the NRAers are in this position BECAUSE they would do NOTHING to promote sensible gun control. So the ceded the entire gun control debate to crazies with guns and those that don't like guns at all.

Brillant.
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

No shit. There NRA whack jobs are just an all or nothing bunch of idiots.

Either we all need to be carrying or the guvmint is gonna take away ALL guns.

Fuking idiots.

And the NRAers are in this position BECAUSE they would do NOTHING to promote sensible gun control. So the ceded the entire gun control debate to crazies with guns and those that don't like guns at all.

Brillant.

The NRA is a paid wing of the gun manufacturing lobby. What we need is an alternative to the NRA.
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

No shit. There NRA whack jobs are just an all or nothing bunch of idiots.

Either we all need to be carrying or the guvmint is gonna take away ALL guns.

Fuking idiots.

And the NRAers are in this position BECAUSE they would do NOTHING to promote sensible gun control. So the ceded the entire gun control debate to crazies with guns and those that don't like guns at all.

Brillant.

I NEED my 50 round magazine!
I need to go to gunshows and pick up whatever I want with no verification
I NEED to make sure the second amendment rights of crazy people are not violated
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

No shit. There NRA whack jobs are just an all or nothing bunch of idiots.

Either we all need to be carrying or the guvmint is gonna take away ALL guns.

Fuking idiots.

And the NRAers are in this position BECAUSE they would do NOTHING to promote sensible gun control. So the ceded the entire gun control debate to crazies with guns and those that don't like guns at all.

Brillant.

I NEED my 50 round magazine!
I need to go to gunshows and pick up whatever I want with no verification
I NEED to make sure the second amendment rights of crazy people are not violated

The shooter didnt use or need a 50 round magazine.
The shooter did not get his guns from a gun show.
The shooter was not able to get a gun on his own, he had to kill his own mother to aquire a weapon.

Never let a tragedy go to waste....and the gun grabbers call us heartless.
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

No shit. There NRA whack jobs are just an all or nothing bunch of idiots.

Either we all need to be carrying or the guvmint is gonna take away ALL guns.

Fuking idiots.

And the NRAers are in this position BECAUSE they would do NOTHING to promote sensible gun control. So the ceded the entire gun control debate to crazies with guns and those that don't like guns at all.

Brillant.

I NEED my 50 round magazine!
I need to go to gunshows and pick up whatever I want with no verification
I NEED to make sure the second amendment rights of crazy people are not violated

Seems like:

You NEED to lie quite a bit.
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

STFU

'Yes, Really, Ban All the Guns'

Yes, Really, Ban All The Guns | The New Republic

Yes, The New Republic is in charge of our gun control laws

You said no one wants to ban all guns. A new republic article (written by someone) wants to ban all guns.

That makes you either a poor researcher, naieve, or a fucking liar.
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

STFU

'Yes, Really, Ban All the Guns'

Yes, Really, Ban All The Guns | The New Republic

Yes, The New Republic is in charge of our gun control laws

That isn't the point.

You said nobody is looking for a total ban on guns, which was an ignorant post.


Do better in the future.

Or better yet, why post when you have no idea what you are talking about?
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you
Jonesy made that claim. He was wrong, too.

Do we need a constitutional convention to remove the second Amendment? This seems to be something you leftist are gunning for this morning.

No ‘leftist’ want’s to remove the Second Amendment.
Wrong.

Daily Kos: Repeal the Second Amendment
The poll:
Repeal the Second Amendment

Yes
78% 222 votes
No
19% 55 votes​

Repeal the second amendment - Democratic Underground

Repeal the Second Amendment - Salon.com

Repeal the Second Amendment, Now! by Harvard Hollenberg - Harvard Hollenberg's column on Newsvine

So, it looks like yet again you don't know what you're talking about.
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you

No shit. There NRA whack jobs are just an all or nothing bunch of idiots.

Either we all need to be carrying or the guvmint is gonna take away ALL guns.

Fuking idiots.

And the NRAers are in this position BECAUSE they would do NOTHING to promote sensible gun control. So the ceded the entire gun control debate to crazies with guns and those that don't like guns at all.

Brillant.

Nope. Nobody sane wants to ban ALL guns.

I just proved you both wrong, although Seawytch is partially correct: The people I linked to may not be sane.
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you
Jonesy made that claim. He was wrong, too.

No ‘leftist’ want’s to remove the Second Amendment.
Wrong.

Daily Kos: Repeal the Second Amendment
The poll:
Repeal the Second Amendment

Yes
78% 222 votes
No
19% 55 votes​

Repeal the second amendment - Democratic Underground

Repeal the Second Amendment - Salon.com

Repeal the Second Amendment, Now! by Harvard Hollenberg - Harvard Hollenberg's column on Newsvine

So, it looks like yet again you don't know what you're talking about.

So, people stating their OPINION that guns should be banned means that guns will be banned


Alinsky must be proud of you daveman.....you have learned well
 
Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you
Jonesy made that claim. He was wrong, too.


So, people stating their OPINION that guns should be banned means that guns will be banned


Alinsky must be proud of you daveman.....you have learned well

Why are you deflecting?

You said 'Nobody is looking for a total gun ban no matter how much bullshit the NRA throws at you.'

Just another pussy liberal living the Liberal Lie.
 

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