Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

[Brain357]

I'm a free market capitalist. Free markets is good capitalism. Neither party is for free market capitalism.

Do free markets require strict government regulation to make them fair?

You're right that neither party promotes or supports a market system.

Strict regulation often leads to more cronyism.

Without question and without fail.

We won't have good capitalism until we make it much more difficult to corrupt our politicians. As long as they are easily bought cronyism will rule.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm a free market capitalist. Free markets is good capitalism. Neither party is for free market capitalism.

Do free markets require strict government regulation to make them fair?

You're right that neither party promotes or supports a market system.

Strict regulation often leads to more cronyism.

Without question and without fail.

We won't have good capitalism until we make it much more difficult to corrupt our politicians. As long as they are easily bought cronyism will rule.

We have deeper (state) problems that ensure no honest government can exist.

The leader of a failed coup walks free to appear on hate night TV with the bush league comics. Yes, a free market would benefit all, but we are not a free nation.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm a free market capitalist. Free markets is good capitalism. Neither party is for free market capitalism.

Do free markets require strict government regulation to make them fair?

You're right that neither party promotes or supports a market system.

Strict regulation often leads to more cronyism.

Without question and without fail.

We won't have good capitalism until we make it much more difficult to corrupt our politicians. As long as they are easily bought cronyism will rule.

We have deeper (state) problems that ensure no honest government can exist.

The leader of a failed coup walks free to appear on hate night TV with the bush league comics. Yes, a free market would benefit all, but we are not a free nation.

Moron doesn’t know what a coup is

 

[LeftofLeft]

Socialism, Communism, Fascism all play on the class envy of the people and ultimately take away the free will and pursuit of prosperity for the individual. Capitalism is what makes US great and exceptional.

 

[Brain357]

Socialism, Communism, Fascism all play on the class envy of the people and ultimately take away the free will and pursuit of prosperity for the individual. Capitalism is what makes US great and exceptional.

It did. When we had a strong middle class. Now we have cronyism and that only benefits those who can buy politicians.

 

[Brain357]

I'm a free market capitalist. Free markets is good capitalism. Neither party is for free market capitalism.

Do free markets require strict government regulation to make them fair?

You're right that neither party promotes or supports a market system.

Strict regulation often leads to more cronyism.

Without question and without fail.

We won't have good capitalism until we make it much more difficult to corrupt our politicians. As long as they are easily bought cronyism will rule.

We have deeper (state) problems that ensure no honest government can exist.

The leader of a failed coup walks free to appear on hate night TV with the bush league comics. Yes, a free market would benefit all, but we are not a free nation.

I haven't seen our leader do anything pro capitalism. I saw him applauding Foxconn and he's well known for paying off politicians himself.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Socialism, Communism, Fascism all play on the class envy of the people and ultimately take away the free will and pursuit of prosperity for the individual. Capitalism is what makes US great and exceptional.

It did. When we had a strong middle class. Now we have cronyism and that only benefits those who can buy politicians.

Show US where Socialism, Communism, or Fascism have a strong Middle Class? Dig deep and you will find that success of each first and foremost depends on elimination of The Middle Class. Since you are so upset about corporate cronyism, where were you during Solyndra and the construction of AHCA?

 

[rightwinger]

Socialism, Communism, Fascism all play on the class envy of the people and ultimately take away the free will and pursuit of prosperity for the individual. Capitalism is what makes US great and exceptional.

It did. When we had a strong middle class. Now we have cronyism and that only benefits those who can buy politicians.

Show US where Socialism, Communism, or Fascism have a strong Middle Class? Dig deep and you will find that success of each first and foremost depends on elimination of The Middle Class. Since you are so upset about corporate cronyism, where were you during Solyndra and the construction of AHCA?

Our middle class has been declining for decades

 

[Brain357]

Socialism, Communism, Fascism all play on the class envy of the people and ultimately take away the free will and pursuit of prosperity for the individual. Capitalism is what makes US great and exceptional.

It did. When we had a strong middle class. Now we have cronyism and that only benefits those who can buy politicians.

Show US where Socialism, Communism, or Fascism have a strong Middle Class? Dig deep and you will find that success of each first and foremost depends on elimination of The Middle Class. Since you are so upset about corporate cronyism, where were you during Solyndra and the construction of AHCA?

I can't show you what doesn't exist. A strong middle class comes with good capitalism. Solyndra was bad and yet repubs learned nothing from it. Look at the republican Foxconn disaster. The only recent win for capitalism is NY sending Amazon packing.

 

[Brain357]

Socialism, Communism, Fascism all play on the class envy of the people and ultimately take away the free will and pursuit of prosperity for the individual. Capitalism is what makes US great and exceptional.

It did. When we had a strong middle class. Now we have cronyism and that only benefits those who can buy politicians.

Show US where Socialism, Communism, or Fascism have a strong Middle Class? Dig deep and you will find that success of each first and foremost depends on elimination of The Middle Class. Since you are so upset about corporate cronyism, where were you during Solyndra and the construction of AHCA?

Our middle class has been declining for decades

As our cronyism grows.

 

[Lesh]

We need...and we HAVE regulations because corporations CHEAT

And corporations have FAR more money than "people" do and since money is power, without regulations...without government...we are at the mercy of corporate greed.

This nation has been a quasi socialist state since the 30s...and that is because unregulated capitalism was an abject FAILURE

And the result of this "socialism" was the richest most powerful nation on the planet with a ROBUST middle class.

That middle class thrived until it began declining with the advent of the "Reagan Revolution" which brought about huge debt and a shrinking damaged middle class

So...yea...there's your "socialism"

 

[Lesh]

Neither party is for free market capitalism

Thank God.

Jesus dude...we just had the Great Recession of 2008!

THAT was where your "free market capitalism" takes us.

Even Alan Greenspan (as he slunk out the door) admitted that Oh...maybe he was wrong about markets being self regulating and self correcting.

Yea no shit Alan.

Thanks for fucking it up royally

 

[Brain357]

Neither party is for free market capitalism

Thank God.

Jesus dude...we just had the Great Recession of 2008!

THAT was where your "free market capitalism" takes us.

Even Alan Greenspan (as he slunk out the door) admitted that Oh...maybe he was wrong about markets being self regulating and self correcting.

Yea no shit Alan.

Thanks for fucking it up royally

Regulation and government has created many of our problems. Look at how all the corporate welfare helps our corporations create monopolies.

 

[Brain357]

We need...and we HAVE regulations because corporations CHEAT

And corporations have FAR more money than "people" do and since money is power, without regulations...without government...we are at the mercy of corporate greed.

This nation has been a quasi socialist state since the 30s...and that is because unregulated capitalism was an abject FAILURE

And the result of this "socialism" was the richest most powerful nation on the planet with a ROBUST middle class.

That middle class thrived until it began declining with the advent of the "Reagan Revolution" which brought about huge debt and a shrinking damaged middle class

So...yea...there's your "socialism"

Our politicians are very easily corrupted. Do you really think corrupt politicians create good regulation?

 

[Kondor3]

"what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured"

Death and subjugation.

Non-communist nations did the same and....

How many did America's "Great Leap Forward" kill?

around two million Native American Indians.

It's what happens when a useless hunter-gatherer-nomad culture from the Neolithic Age meets a vastly more advanced one.

Nature de-selected them.

But that was long ago, and most folks no longer remember, or care in the slightest.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Socialism, Communism, Fascism all play on the class envy of the people and ultimately take away the free will and pursuit of prosperity for the individual. Capitalism is what makes US great and exceptional.

It did. When we had a strong middle class. Now we have cronyism and that only benefits those who can buy politicians.

Show US where Socialism, Communism, or Fascism have a strong Middle Class? Dig deep and you will find that success of each first and foremost depends on elimination of The Middle Class. Since you are so upset about corporate cronyism, where were you during Solyndra and the construction of AHCA?

I can't show you what doesn't exist. A strong middle class comes with good capitalism. Solyndra was bad and yet repubs learned nothing from it. Look at the republican Foxconn disaster. The only recent win for capitalism is NY sending Amazon packing.

NY just gave up an opportunity to increase jobs and income tax revenue.

 

[Brain357]

Socialism, Communism, Fascism all play on the class envy of the people and ultimately take away the free will and pursuit of prosperity for the individual. Capitalism is what makes US great and exceptional.

It did. When we had a strong middle class. Now we have cronyism and that only benefits those who can buy politicians.

Show US where Socialism, Communism, or Fascism have a strong Middle Class? Dig deep and you will find that success of each first and foremost depends on elimination of The Middle Class. Since you are so upset about corporate cronyism, where were you during Solyndra and the construction of AHCA?

I can't show you what doesn't exist. A strong middle class comes with good capitalism. Solyndra was bad and yet repubs learned nothing from it. Look at the republican Foxconn disaster. The only recent win for capitalism is NY sending Amazon packing.

NY just gave up an opportunity to increase jobs and income tax revenue.

You think the government picking winners and losers is good capitalism? You really think Amazon needs helps running other companies out of business?

 

[Lesh]

Look at how all the corporate welfare helps our corporations create monopolies.

You think removing regulations will solve that?

We HAVE regulations because of that problem. Do thy work well enough? If not then we need strong or better ones but even a cursory look at the late 1800 Glided Age will show you that lack of regulation CAUSES the problem you claim to want to fix.

Capitalism is fine...as long as it is regulated properly

Pure capitalism is inherently prone to cheating

 

[Lesh]

Our politicians are very easily corrupted. Do you really think corrupt politicians create good regulation?

I think we need to get the obscene amount of MONEY out of politics

ANd we can start by recognizing that corporations are NOT people and make campaign laws reflect that realization

 

[Lesh]

NY just gave up an opportunity to increase jobs and income tax revenue.

The richest corporation in the WORLD was demanding a 3 BILLION dollar tax break to move there despite the pressure they were going to put on the infra structure of NY