Common sense gun regulations--need to be passed now.

Then let's arm the children at school, don't they have a 2nd Amendment right?

Yes Children have the same Constitutional rights as adults.
There is no age requirement in federal law that prohibits a child from owning a rifle or ammunition ... :thup:

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Unfortunately, our children don't have the same rights in the womb.

Wonder if liberals would oppose abortion if the fetus was killed with a gun.

-Geaux
Every fetus should be fitted with a gun so it can defend itself.
 
OK--so this year we have 18 school shootings, and it's not even March yet. Yesterday in Florida 15 young people with their entire lives in front of them, along with 2 school teachers trying to protect them were massacred. Then we have Las Vegas. Then a church in Texas were generations of family members were wiped out. We have a movie theatre in Aurora Colorado, then San Diego were a straw buyer purchased semi-automatics for a slaugther there, and Orlando, Florida another one. And Sandy Hook where 5 to 7 year olds were slaughtered.

People have called for better gun regulations in this country and it has continually fallen on deaf ears. Republicans are owned by the NRA and right wing gun extremists.

Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

If these simple regulations were in place--there would have never been a Las Vegas, a Sandy Hook, a Columbine massacre, a church in Texas, San Diego slaughter, Orlando, Florida massacre, a Virginia Tech etc. etc. etc., and 15 young kids and 2 teachers that were killed yesterday would be here today.

You won't convince Republicans to do any of this. They are OWNED by the NRA, and right wing gun extremists, and will fight (tooth & nail) on any new gun regulations. They are more interested in the donations they get from the NRA than keeping the public and our schools safe.

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If you're tired of all the condolences & sympathies, then do something about it. Vote for Democrats in the midterm election cycle this coming November for common sense gun regulations.
Fake news, liar. No gun laws will stop the shootings, only people that are there at the time and armed can possibly stop it. You guys are all about more crime and less punishment which is why you want more gun laws.
 
Yep, it's time to start arming more of good people than bad

Like my sig says- 'Society is safer when criminals don't know who's armed'

-Geaux
 
South Florida Gun Grabber Alert - please join the push to oust this Communist anti-2nd Amendment hack

Scott Israel - Sheriff Broward County - NOTORIOUS Gun Grabber

Florida sheriff Scott Israel says lawmakers 'won't get re-elected' if they don't push for gun control
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/16/florida-sheriff-scott-israel-says-lawmakers-wont-get-re-elected-if-dont-push-for-gun-control.html

He's been known to say the civilian population doesn't need guns since the Police are there to do that job since long before he was Sheriff.

Meanwhile under his "watch" violent crime has sky-rocketed due to lenience on criminals!

Time to get that Commie hack out of Office!


(All opinions expressed in this post are just that. I have no proof the Sheriff is a Communist. It appears there has been a substantial increase in crime in the area since his election however, that claim is based on local observations and local news. Most people in South Florida would likely agree crime is rampant there now)
 
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1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

Go ahead, amend the Constitution if you can muster the votes I predict you will fail and face plant.
 
Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

^^^ and there you have the tyrannical dictatorship of the left if ever they gain power, U.S. Constitution torn up, our rights shredded, the liberal world view becomes the law of the land.
 
Question: if you were to get all the legislation passed and signed into law that you are asking for here, what are you going to want after the next mass shooting happens?
Nobody who matters and who advocates for measures such as the OP-er has thinks they will stop all mass shootings.
OIC, So the proposed "solution" won't SOLVE the problem of course that's only partially honest, you failed to admit that the proposed "solution" won't do one damn thing to even address the ROOT CAUSES.

The goal of such measures as the OP-er has suggested is to notably curtail the incidence of mass shootings and other gun-caused deaths and injuries
"Curtail" by how much exactly? if you're going to ask Americans to degrade their individual rights and incur additional expense don't you think it's reasonable to put forth a plan that includes specific metrics and timetables upon which success or failure can be determined?

"Statistically significant" and "notable" are far too vague a standard to be applied to public policy because when it comes to politicians those terms leave gigantic wiggle gaps that will muddy the waters so much that the general public won't know what the hell has been accomplished, you might as well just paraphrase Princess Nancy and say "We have to pass it to see what the hell it will actually accomplish".

What happens if the proposed "curtailment measures" fail to achieve the objective set forth, what's next? How far are you willing to go to allow the tiny minority of citizens that turn out to be mass murderers drive legislation which degrades the individual liberty and pocket books of the rest of society?
 
OIC, So the proposed "solution" won't SOLVE the problem of course that's only partially honest, you failed to admit that the proposed "solution" won't do one damn thing to even address the ROOT CAUSES.
I didn't address that because that isn't the question you asked.

What you asked is:
And that is the question I answered.
 
If you're tired of all the condolences & sympathies, then do something about it. Vote for Democrats in the midterm election cycle this coming November for common sense gun regulations.
Who do we vote for if we want to protect the constitution and instead hold the shooters responsible?

Our forefathers never intended to use the 2nd amendment as an excuse to slaugher innocent American citizens.
 
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We need an Augustus, yet all we have are a bunch of clowns-R & D singularly engaged in bickering over which side gets to loot the larger share of what remains. :(

Yeah ... But the problem does not exist in leadership.
It exists in the basic concept the People have decided to empower the federal government to an extent that their political bickering actually influences what it shouldn't.
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Uh-huh and why did "the People" decide to do that?

"If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it" -- Marcus Aurelius
 
OK--so this year we have 18 school shootings, and it's not even March yet. Yesterday in Florida 15 young people with their entire lives in front of them, along with 2 school teachers trying to protect them were massacred. Then we have Las Vegas. Then a church in Texas were generations of family members were wiped out. We have a movie theatre in Aurora Colorado, then San Diego were a straw buyer purchased semi-automatics for a slaugther there, and Orlando, Florida another one. And Sandy Hook where 5 to 7 year olds were slaughtered.

People have called for better gun regulations in this country and it has continually fallen on deaf ears. Republicans are owned by the NRA and right wing gun extremists.

Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

If these simple regulations were in place--there would have never been a Las Vegas, a Sandy Hook, a Columbine massacre, a church in Texas, San Diego slaughter, Orlando, Florida massacre, a Virginia Tech etc. etc. etc., and 15 young kids and 2 teachers that were killed yesterday would be here today.

You won't convince Republicans to do any of this. They are OWNED by the NRA, and right wing gun extremists, and will fight (tooth & nail) on any new gun regulations. They are more interested in the donations they get from the NRA than keeping the public and our schools safe.

RogerR20120424_low.jpg


If you're tired of all the condolences & sympathies, then do something about it. Vote for Democrats in the midterm election cycle this coming November for common sense gun regulations.

You just proved that the term "commonsense gun regulations" is an oxymoron.
 
OIC, So the proposed "solution" won't SOLVE the problem of course that's only partially honest, you failed to admit that the proposed "solution" won't do one damn thing to even address the ROOT CAUSES.
I didn't address that because that isn't the question you asked.

What you asked is:
And that is the question I answered.

Fair enough but you still haven't answered the question; so allow me to ask it again in a less ambiguous fashion...

IF IT FAILS WHAT'S NEXT?
 
OK--so this year we have 18 school shootings, and it's not even March yet. Yesterday in Florida 15 young people with their entire lives in front of them, along with 2 school teachers trying to protect them were massacred. Then we have Las Vegas. Then a church in Texas were generations of family members were wiped out. We have a movie theatre in Aurora Colorado, then San Diego were a straw buyer purchased semi-automatics for a slaugther there, and Orlando, Florida another one. And Sandy Hook where 5 to 7 year olds were slaughtered.

People have called for better gun regulations in this country and it has continually fallen on deaf ears. Republicans are owned by the NRA and right wing gun extremists.

Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

If these simple regulations were in place--there would have never been a Las Vegas, a Sandy Hook, a Columbine massacre, a church in Texas, San Diego slaughter, Orlando, Florida massacre, a Virginia Tech etc. etc. etc., and 15 young kids and 2 teachers that were killed yesterday would be here today.

You won't convince Republicans to do any of this. They are OWNED by the NRA, and right wing gun extremists, and will fight (tooth & nail) on any new gun regulations. They are more interested in the donations they get from the NRA than keeping the public and our schools safe.

RogerR20120424_low.jpg


If you're tired of all the condolences & sympathies, then do something about it. Vote for Democrats in the midterm election cycle this coming November for common sense gun regulations.

Dancing in the blood of the victims.
 
Uh-huh and why did "the People" decide to do that?

Fast food restaurants and the increased availability of immediate gratification throughout our society.

When people started wanting immediate solutions to problems.
When they were unable to have their desires immediately addressed to their satisfaction and attempted to leverage others outside their community.

When they became stupid enough to expect, and grant power to the federal government to accomplish what it cannot accomplish.
When they starting ignoring the simple fact that legislation is long-term ... And was never intended to be a Band-Aid.

When they decided it is appropriate to treat the federal government like the local McDonalds drive thru ...
Because they want a quick, cheap fix and don't care if they get a crappy hamburger that is going to do more towards killing them in the long run.


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Here is what we do...Guns kill tens of thousands of people every year,,,so we ban semi-auto's with fines of 5 years in prison the first time and life the second. Time to treat these people the same way as we do with drug dealers.
Go back to Singapore .... or Malaysia... wherever the 'Fukk' your from. Put pump shotguns in locked glass cases throughout the school accessed by a faculty combination that changes fairly frequently.... fill the tubes of those shotguns with slugs and the last 3 (ie first to chamber) bean bags....
 
So nothing about the root cause?



Like single mothers, violence on television, movies, video games, in music.....


I had to laugh when the Sheriff in Florida, stated call us, let us know which kids may be acting strange. Then the reporter asked--well, could you have taken that AR-15 and ammo away from this kid if notified. Well NO--it's his legal right to have it. Furthermore, someone had already reported this kid to the FBI--and they did NOTHING. So apparently you have to shoot some people, before they can legally take away your weapon.
FBI notified 6 months ago about FL Shooter – InvestmentWatch


The irony: So you have people in marijuana states that are getting busted for growing one plant over, who's entire crop is confiscated and they're walked off in handcuffs---:badgrin: Is there something WRONG with this picture?

And we've seen where people who were under FBI watch for suspected terrorism can't be touched--yet they can go into any gun store and load up on guns and ammo.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...b6c1998b7a0_story.html?utm_term=.06ff53460b3e

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So while you're busy trying to get to the "root" cause, how many more innocents need to die in this country?
 
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Our forefathers never intended to use the 2nd amendment as an excuse to slaugher innocent American citizens.

Our forefathers never intended for a free society to be forced to support Democrat political agendas by taking from those who produce and giving it to the lazy and degenerate.... FOR THEIR VOTES so that they could multiply and over run the nation with moral less behavior while keeping corrupt Leftist in power..
 
OK--so this year we have 18 school shootings, and it's not even March yet. Yesterday in Florida 15 young people with their entire lives in front of them, along with 2 school teachers trying to protect them were massacred. Then we have Las Vegas. Then a church in Texas were generations of family members were wiped out. We have a movie theatre in Aurora Colorado, then San Diego were a straw buyer purchased semi-automatics for a slaugther there, and Orlando, Florida another one. And Sandy Hook where 5 to 7 year olds were slaughtered.

People have called for better gun regulations in this country and it has continually fallen on deaf ears. Republicans are owned by the NRA and right wing gun extremists.

Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

If these simple regulations were in place--there would have never been a Las Vegas, a Sandy Hook, a Columbine massacre, a church in Texas, San Diego slaughter, Orlando, Florida massacre, a Virginia Tech etc. etc. etc., and 15 young kids and 2 teachers that were killed yesterday would be here today.

You won't convince Republicans to do any of this. They are OWNED by the NRA, and right wing gun extremists, and will fight (tooth & nail) on any new gun regulations. They are more interested in the donations they get from the NRA than keeping the public and our schools safe.


If you're tired of all the condolences & sympathies, then do something about it. Vote for Democrats in the midterm election cycle this coming November for common sense gun regulations.

You do realize that the more violence and death via firearms the more adamant the majority is on voting for 'gun rights' candidates.... ? Sorry, but that is in fact the case. Yes, YOU 'antis' are the minority still, despite trying to bolster your ranks by the millions, with illegals (many of them see right through your BS and end up on the 'gun rights' side of the isle...).
 

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