Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone

[Billy_Kinetta]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

Why not

You actually believe your own fake crap. So the entire world is supposed to accept your twisted 'interpretation' of 'what the founders meant'.

So what are these "reasonable common sense laws" you never can seem to post?

I just gave one.

There’s a reason Ruger made the 1911 45 an 8 + 1. They could have made it 10 plus 1 but they didn’t.

And my hunting rifle is a 4 +1. Why didn’t they make it 10 plus 1? Because a hunter doesn’t need more than four shots.

The reason was a single stack magazine wan't hold more that that without sticking out the bottom of the mag well. lol

I’m just saying I don’t mind to learn my hunting rifle is only 3+1. I think that makes sense and would be ok if they never made them with more.

The nuts usually go buy their shit at the store. They aren’t going on the black market to find higher capacity rounds and ways to maximize damage. Some do but most just work with what’s available. Or what their parents have.

I wish klebolt and Harris parents only had five round revolvers.

I see you are a typical lib who want his beliefs forced on everyone, and compare those who do not want that to criminals. When the cops start being limited to 5 rounds I will too.

Not me.

 

[BrokeLoser]

So what are these "reasonable common sense laws" you never can seem to post?

I just gave one.

There’s a reason Ruger made the 1911 45 an 8 + 1. They could have made it 10 plus 1 but they didn’t.

And my hunting rifle is a 4 +1. Why didn’t they make it 10 plus 1? Because a hunter doesn’t need more than four shots.

The reason was a single stack magazine wan't hold more that that without sticking out the bottom of the mag well. lol

I’m just saying I don’t mind to learn my hunting rifle is only 3+1. I think that makes sense and would be ok if they never made them with more.

The nuts usually go buy their shit at the store. They aren’t going on the black market to find higher capacity rounds and ways to maximize damage. Some do but most just work with what’s available. Or what their parents have.

I wish klebolt and Harris parents only had five round revolvers.

The answer is simple...

Yet you don’t want anything stopping us from getting guns? Or any system that might catch and stop a nut?

Unfortunately casualties are a terrible byproduct of freedom and liberty.
Government regulation of freedom and liberty sucks...We have plenty now.
Why not prefer the imposition of a full police state in Democratic strongholds...Why not impose our will on the bad guys only?

 

[Crixus]

So what are these "reasonable common sense laws" you never can seem to post?

I just gave one.

There’s a reason Ruger made the 1911 45 an 8 + 1. They could have made it 10 plus 1 but they didn’t.

And my hunting rifle is a 4 +1. Why didn’t they make it 10 plus 1? Because a hunter doesn’t need more than four shots.

The reason was a single stack magazine wan't hold more that that without sticking out the bottom of the mag well. lol

I’m just saying I don’t mind to learn my hunting rifle is only 3+1. I think that makes sense and would be ok if they never made them with more.

The nuts usually go buy their shit at the store. They aren’t going on the black market to find higher capacity rounds and ways to maximize damage. Some do but most just work with what’s available. Or what their parents have.

I wish klebolt and Harris parents only had five round revolvers.

The answer is simple...

Yet you don’t want anything stopping us from getting guns? Or any system that might catch and stop a nut?

Who decides what a “nut” is?

 

[Crixus]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

I’ll see your 8 and raise you 9. If a good guy with a hand gun is taking on bad guys with assault rifles the good guy is fucked. Bigly. Also, with that 1911, be sure to remember this mantra, Tap, Rack, Bang. Also remember that every time you do that you are dumping a round (one of your eight) on the ground instead of down range. This is why hi capacity 9’s are so popular. With those one can tap, rack, rack, rack, rack and then bang. Magazine capacity is not a factor in mass shootings. The guys that do them just reload faster.


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Tap rack bang?

Yes. Have you had any instruction in the proper operation of a hand gun? When the gun malfunctions, you TAP, as in hit the magazine smartly with the off hand. Then you RACK the slide with the offhand smartly with the off hand. Then it’s “front sight acquire fire. Tap rack bang drills were invented by 1911 operators because their highly customized 1911’s would jam allot. This is basic stuff. Maybe you should go with the .45 colt/.45ACP red hawk ? Less hassles and .45 colt is a fun round and easy to reload if you ever do that.

Th ladies husband died. This is what she has and I’m looking for a good deal. $600. No tax. I’ll figure it out.

I have to go to the police and get a purchase permit on Monday.

Thanks for the advice I will take it to the gun range and tell the instructors it’s a new gun. They helped me with my muzzle loader and 450 bushmaster

Shoot it allot. ALLLOOOT. Get some bulk 230 grain hard ball and blast away. If you are getting malfunctions then swap ammo. Keeps happening, swap magazine. And don’t be this guy,



The 1911 takes practice. If it were me, I would get a Glock. Meh.

 

[daveman]

“Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone”

True.

In fact, there are common sense measures that can be taken having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms, such as universal background checks and ensuring the states have the funding and ability to update the NICS database in a timely manner.

But the NRA and most on the right continue to propagate their ridiculous lie and slippery slope fallacy that common sense measures will lead to the ‘banning’ of all guns and their eventual ‘confiscation.’

Cut the crap. Gun bans have been the left's goal for decades

I feel you and people like you will no longer be tolerated.
There is a tsunami of emotion and actions, led by the young, that will drive you into your rat hole.

Emotion is not a sound basis for curtailing people's rights.

But that's all you've got.

 

[daveman]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

Let Me ask you something.

Why do you use a talking point that has been passed around?

You all use the phrase, "Common sense" in the exact same manner. Please don't insult yourself by trying to say that it is a natural progression of a phrase. No one was using it prior to last year.

If these truly were common sense regulations, you'd just make the case for the regulation and what it would do. There would be no need to even use the phrase.

My entire problem with people like you who use the phrase "common sense regulation" is that you are being deceitful and insulting. Deliberately so.

Why should anyone trust someone who is being dishonest and insulting in the same breath?

But here is some real common sense for you.

There are 20,000 laws and regulations already on the books and not one of them has stopped a single one of these tragedies. More will not do so, no matter how much people may want to wish it so.

So, it is 'common sense' that what hasn't worked in the past won't work now.

Wouldn't you say?

NO GUYS ONE MORE LAW AND THE CRIMINALS WILL START OBEYING THEM HONEST PINKY SWEAR

 

[Crixus]

“Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone”

True.

In fact, there are common sense measures that can be taken having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms, such as universal background checks and ensuring the states have the funding and ability to update the NICS database in a timely manner.

But the NRA and most on the right continue to propagate their ridiculous lie and slippery slope fallacy that common sense measures will lead to the ‘banning’ of all guns and their eventual ‘confiscation.’

Perhaps they are not looking to ban guns, but ban who has then, and that can be a dangerous road.

****conspiracy theory incoming****

The left's big push is to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental illness. This would be beneficial for people with schizophrenia, and other disorders that cause their version of reality to be skewed.

The question is, who gets to decide what those mental health regulations are, and of what they consist? There are articles out there that try to link conservatism as a mental disorder. They also try to paint anyone who believes in creationism as someone who is mentally I'll.

Maybe it's all just nonsense talk, but, what if, perhaps, those people who are trying to make all of these regulations, institute laws that prevent a majority of people from owning guns, simply based on their beliefs and ideology?


Perhaps that's a stretch too far. I can understand wanting to keep guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them, the problem is,.and this has been said time and time again, is that those who break the laws will not abide by the nee regulations. For the most part, more regulations will just keep guns out of the hands of people who would not use them criminally.

Like I said, who decides who and what a nut is?

 

[miketx]

“Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone”

True.

In fact, there are common sense measures that can be taken having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms, such as universal background checks and ensuring the states have the funding and ability to update the NICS database in a timely manner.

But the NRA and most on the right continue to propagate their ridiculous lie and slippery slope fallacy that common sense measures will lead to the ‘banning’ of all guns and their eventual ‘confiscation.’

Perhaps they are not looking to ban guns, but ban who has then, and that can be a dangerous road.

****conspiracy theory incoming****

The left's big push is to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental illness. This would be beneficial for people with schizophrenia, and other disorders that cause their version of reality to be skewed.

The question is, who gets to decide what those mental health regulations are, and of what they consist? There are articles out there that try to link conservatism as a mental disorder. They also try to paint anyone who believes in creationism as someone who is mentally I'll.

Maybe it's all just nonsense talk, but, what if, perhaps, those people who are trying to make all of these regulations, institute laws that prevent a majority of people from owning guns, simply based on their beliefs and ideology?


Perhaps that's a stretch too far. I can understand wanting to keep guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them, the problem is,.and this has been said time and time again, is that those who break the laws will not abide by the nee regulations. For the most part, more regulations will just keep guns out of the hands of people who would not use them criminally.

Like I said, who decides who and what a nut is?

Jones is a nut.

 

[Crixus]

“Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone”

True.

In fact, there are common sense measures that can be taken having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms, such as universal background checks and ensuring the states have the funding and ability to update the NICS database in a timely manner.

But the NRA and most on the right continue to propagate their ridiculous lie and slippery slope fallacy that common sense measures will lead to the ‘banning’ of all guns and their eventual ‘confiscation.’

Perhaps they are not looking to ban guns, but ban who has then, and that can be a dangerous road.

****conspiracy theory incoming****

The left's big push is to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental illness. This would be beneficial for people with schizophrenia, and other disorders that cause their version of reality to be skewed.

The question is, who gets to decide what those mental health regulations are, and of what they consist? There are articles out there that try to link conservatism as a mental disorder. They also try to paint anyone who believes in creationism as someone who is mentally I'll.

Maybe it's all just nonsense talk, but, what if, perhaps, those people who are trying to make all of these regulations, institute laws that prevent a majority of people from owning guns, simply based on their beliefs and ideology?


Perhaps that's a stretch too far. I can understand wanting to keep guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them, the problem is,.and this has been said time and time again, is that those who break the laws will not abide by the nee regulations. For the most part, more regulations will just keep guns out of the hands of people who would not use them criminally.

Like I said, who decides who and what a nut is?

Jones is a nut.

And say some of the stuff we post here should come into the decision on our gun purchase?

 

[daveman]

The left plainly doesn't care about victims of gun crime. You can tell because they do nothing but screech RACIST when you mention black-on-black crime, and they support abortion.

There are other things that kill far more people than guns -- but the left is silent about those.

Why?

Because people throughout history have resisted leftist totalitarianism with firearms.

The left doesn't care about your safety. They want you defenseless.

 

[JWBooth]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

Lies, damn lies, and this.

 

[JWBooth]

Stalin took the guns
Hitler took the guns
Castro took the guns
North Korea takes your guns

See the pattern here, snowflakes?

This is a Russian Troll. We have to run these people off this site and out of the country.
The exagerated comparison of gun regulations and taking everyone's guns away is the narative of a deviant trying to sperate us all and not get a common sense solution.

There are no Russian trolls and resorting that tripe is nothing more than vain attempts to silence any who seek to oppose your favored progrom. Only people to be driven out are statist asswipes such as yourself who wish for a defenseless populace.

 

[miketx]

Stalin took the guns
Hitler took the guns
Castro took the guns
North Korea takes your guns

See the pattern here, snowflakes?

This is a Russian Troll. We have to run these people off this site and out of the country.
The exagerated comparison of gun regulations and taking everyone's guns away is the narative of a deviant trying to sperate us all and not get a common sense solution.

 

[bripat9643]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

You truly are an idiot.

Fully automatic rifles, those that "spray 40 bullets at a time" have been outlawed since the 1930's.

An AR-15 works no differently than the Ruger SR1911 you claim to be "getting." One shot per trigger pull.

8+1 that’s all you should get. Don’t make ten round ones. That’s all I’m saying. That’s a good regulation

Why is that "common sense?"

 

[EGR one]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I've come to the conclusion we just have to start ignoring gun lickers. Once the other party gains power then a whole slew of new regulations on guns should be passed. The 2nd amendment says 'well regulated'. It's way past time to make that industry well regulated. Let those that are going to cry and threaten everyone else cry about it. They watch children being murdered by the dozens and couldn't care less so it's time to treat them the same way. Who cares if they bitch and whine.

Well regulated militia, you ignorant loon. It never mentions gun industry. Good gawd

You need to spend some time reading to understand words. Well regulated isn't a hard concept even for the moonbats of the world like you. You do tip your hat though that the gun industry is who you want to protect, not human life.

If you're gonna call people moonbats and accuse them of not being able to read, you might wanna read the entire Second Amendment and the debates that led to it. The key point of the amendment is that "The right OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The "well-regulated militia" introductory statement is just a preamble and not the point of the amendment. You do know that the War of Independence started when the British tried to confiscate the colonists' guns and ammo, right?

Nobody at the founding of the country conceived of the idiotic idea that only members of the militia had a right to bear arms. That nonsense came later, from liberals.

You actually believe your own fake crap. So the entire world is supposed to accept your twisted 'interpretation' of 'what the founders meant'.

Why would any government need a constitutional provision authorizing it to arm the militia? Government can arm six year olds, if it desires to do so. Consequently, when determining what is, or is not, a twisted interpretation, look into your own logic.

Can any of you "common sense" gun control freaks name one shooting that was prevented by background checks?

 

[EGR one]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

Why would it be better to limit the ability to kill to eight people in lieu of nine people or twenty people? Some otherwise logical people seem to get fascinated by the number of people killed, versus the fact that people are killed.

Children are killed, all over this country, at school, on the way to school, or on the way home from school, every day, and few seem to notice. So, what is the magic number of dead people that causes so much concern? It is obviously not the deaths, it is the numbers of deaths that creates the concern.

 

[miketx]

I think we should pass a law that says you can only kill as many people as your magazine has bullets in it.

 

[Ambivalent1]

“Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone”

True.

In fact, there are common sense measures that can be taken having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms, such as universal background checks and ensuring the states have the funding and ability to update the NICS database in a timely manner.

But the NRA and most on the right continue to propagate their ridiculous lie and slippery slope fallacy that common sense measures will lead to the ‘banning’ of all guns and their eventual ‘confiscation.’

When those "measures" don't work in stopping the shooting ( and they won't) what will you propose next?

 

[miketx]

“Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone”

True.

In fact, there are common sense measures that can be taken having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms, such as universal background checks and ensuring the states have the funding and ability to update the NICS database in a timely manner.

But the NRA and most on the right continue to propagate their ridiculous lie and slippery slope fallacy that common sense measures will lead to the ‘banning’ of all guns and their eventual ‘confiscation.’

I know you'll never say you lying thug, but what are those common sense laws?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

You truly are an idiot.

Fully automatic rifles, those that "spray 40 bullets at a time" have been outlawed since the 1930's.

An AR-15 works no differently than the Ruger SR1911 you claim to be "getting." One shot per trigger pull.

8+1 that’s all you should get. Don’t make ten round ones. That’s all I’m saying. That’s a good regulation

You're an idiot talking shit.

The SR1911 has a SEVEN round magazine, modeled on the original Colt 1911. To have 8 shots requires loading the mag, chambering a round, dropping the mag, and putting in another round for the chambered one.

This is a DUMB and dangerous move. The Colt has a pressure plate on the back of the grip that must be depressed to release the hammer. Doing this on a chambered round is highly likely to set the round off. Only a fucking retard would attempt it. You do NOT chamber a round on a 1911 unless you are prepared to discharge the weapon. I don't know if Ruger copied this feature or not, but I suspect they did since the SR1911 is a clone of the Colt.

Ruger® SR1911® Officer-Style Centerfire Pistol Model 6762