Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone

[Uncensored2008]

Yes. Have you had any instruction in the proper operation of a hand gun? When the gun malfunctions, you TAP, as in hit the magazine smartly with the off hand. Then you RACK the slide with the offhand smartly with the off hand. Then it’s “front sight acquire fire. Tap rack bang drills were invented by 1911 operators because their highly customized 1911’s would jam allot. This is basic stuff. Maybe you should go with the .45 colt/.45ACP red hawk ? Less hassles and .45 colt is a fun round and easy to reload if you ever do that.

Sealy will kill himself if he actually gets a firearm. He is an idiot without the first clue as to how they operate. This may not be such a bad thing, but how many others will he injure or kill due to his ignorance and stupidity.

sealybobo IF you really are going to buy a gun, PLEASE take an NRA gun safety class first. These are NOT toys.

 

[Crixus]

Yes. Have you had any instruction in the proper operation of a hand gun? When the gun malfunctions, you TAP, as in hit the magazine smartly with the off hand. Then you RACK the slide with the offhand smartly with the off hand. Then it’s “front sight acquire fire. Tap rack bang drills were invented by 1911 operators because their highly customized 1911’s would jam allot. This is basic stuff. Maybe you should go with the .45 colt/.45ACP red hawk ? Less hassles and .45 colt is a fun round and easy to reload if you ever do that.

Sealy will kill himself if he actually gets a firearm. He is an idiot without the first clue as to how they operate. This may not be such a bad thing, but how many others will he injure or kill due to his ignorance and stupidity.

sealybobo IF you really are going to buy a gun, PLEASE take an NRA gun safety class first. These are NOT toys.

And a 1911 while awesome, is an easy weapon to have an Accident with. Glocks were sent by God to fix the mistakes made in the designs of all other hand guns.

 

[elongobardi]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

You truly are an idiot.

Fully automatic rifles, those that "spray 40 bullets at a time" have been outlawed since the 1930's.

An AR-15 works no differently than the Ruger SR1911 you claim to be "getting." One shot per trigger pull.

8+1 that’s all you should get. Don’t make ten round ones. That’s all I’m saying. That’s a good regulation

Why. 2 rounds to. 10 plus 1 is a good size. The bad guys aren’t worried about how many bullets the law says you can carry. They don’t care and are always carrying high capacity magazines. The law abiding citizens are the ones getting the shaft. Why don’t you expand psychology background checks to a national level not just a local level. That would help keep guns out of the hands of people with mental issues. HIPPA can go screw themselves withe there bullshit privacy laws.


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[Uncensored2008]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

You truly are an idiot.

Fully automatic rifles, those that "spray 40 bullets at a time" have been outlawed since the 1930's.

An AR-15 works no differently than the Ruger SR1911 you claim to be "getting." One shot per trigger pull.

8+1 that’s all you should get. Don’t make ten round ones. That’s all I’m saying. That’s a good regulation

30 rounds in an AR-15 with a couple of backup mags is good.

I actually prefer the Mini-14, but just to scare you panty pissing Stalinists...

 

[Rustic]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

Lol
Progressives don’t get to say what the rules and laws are when it comes to firearms… It’s unconstitutional

 

[Clementine]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

We already have laws on the books regarding felons owning guns. Although gun ownership is a right, some are forced to give up that right when they commit a crime or suffer from mental illness. Of course, leftists want those mass murderers to be able to vote. And they'll vote Dem, interestingly enough. Right now, police can take guns away if they feel a person poses a threat to themselves or others.

Leftists have admitted that they want to ban guns for average people. Hillary admitted that she doesn't believe the second amendment gives people a right to own guns.

In Venezuela, Chavez banned guns, claiming it would make the country safer. All of his arguments sounded exactly like what the leftist radicals in the Dem party are saying today. It's total bullshit.

Even a liberal admitted recently that the people in Venezuela cannot fight against the evil regime because only the state has guns. Innocent people are getting run over by cops for protesting.

Dictators always seek to disarm the people so they can never fight back against tyranny.

Yes, the left hates guns and continues to look for more reasons to separate people from their right to own one. Despite the fact that the vast majority of legal gun owners do not pose a threat to anyone (other than a dictator), the left still thinks we have no need for them. Trust the police, they say, even as some don't want cops to carry guns.

Criminals will always ignore all laws. Of course, in dictatorships, the police literally go door to door and search people's home to confiscate any weapons they have. If anyone in Venezuela had kept a weapon, they would face 20 years in prison if caught.

It has always ended in disaster when government came for people's guns. They never stop at reasonable laws. They keep going until they take them all away. So, we should not trust the left when they want even more laws. How about enforcing the ones on the books? Or allowing people to conceal carry so they can stop a potential mass shooter? After all, criminals conceal carry every day. Of course, laws are meaningless to those who seek to harm, which is why more laws will only affect the innocent.



“You have to understand, in Venezuela gun ownership is not something that’s open to everybody. So if the military have the guns, they have the power and as long as Nicolás Maduro controls the military, he controls the country.”

Guaidó, who declared himself interim president in January after claims the socialist government stole last year’s election, has tried to get the military to turn with his latest call to take to the streets.

However, as Sanders pointed out, few have heeded the call. And why should they? The people who want to depose the government don’t have firearms, whereas those who are in power do.

According to The Daily Caller, a 2012 gun ban made it almost impossible for citizens to own firearms.

“Under the June 2012 law, only the military, police forces, and some security contractors could purchase firearms from a state-owned weapons manufacturer,” The Daily Caller reported Tuesday. “Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan leader at the time, claimed the law would curb the country’s high rate of violent crime and said the ultimate goal was to disarm all private citizens.

“In 2013, just 37 weapons were handed over voluntarily. More than 12,500 were confiscated by force.”

The article quoted from an exiled Venezuelan’s interview in December.

“Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” Javier Vanegas, a Venezuelan living in Ecuador, told Fox News then.

“The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population.”

It’s a no-win situation.

The penalty for disobeying the ban is 20 years in prison.

This is what conservatives have said about the right to bear arms all along, be it in Venezuela or here in the United States.

Home-invading criminals and tyrants alike respect little except force, force best delivered (whether you like it or not) from the muzzle of a gun.

The right has long since understood that those with arms will always victimize those without arms, particularly in the context of a failed state like Venezuela

Now, even MSNBC’s reporters also understand this salient fact — even if it might be in the limited context of Venezuela.

Perhaps that object lesson could open their eyes to a wider principle at play here.

But I wouldn’t hold my breath."

MSNBC Reporter Admits What Conservatives Have Said About Guns Is Completely True

 

[hunarcy]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an eveil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

Of course the are. That's what lefties mean by "common sense gun regulations." It's code for abolishing the 2nd Amendment.

I think you are a Russian troll
or absolute dumb son of a bitch

Well, since we're giving opinions, I think you are a lying son of a bitch who ignores the past 90 years of "common sense gun control laws" that have been purposely ineffective to allow for even more "common sense gun laws" to be passed with the goal of limiting the rights of people in the United States. So, why not stop posting and go out and pound salt?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

Fuck you Commie.

You Stalinist pigs have been kicking in doors and murdering people to take their guns for years using the so called "red flag" laws, but that is falling apart.

Colorado's red-flag gun law challenged by Rocky Mountain Gun Owners in court

Oh, and here is where you Stalinist are murdering Americans;

{Gary Willis, a resident of Ferndale, Maryland, was awakened Monday morning at 5:17 a.m. when two officers from Anne Arundel County knocked on his door. A law-abiding gun owner, Willis answered the door “with a gun in his hand,” according to a police department spokesman. They were there to serve him with an “extreme risk protective order” and remove his legally owned firearms}

Law-abiding gun Owner Killed During Red Flag Confiscation Raid

 

[Uncensored2008]

“Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone”

True.

In fact, there are common sense measures that can be taken having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms, such as universal background checks and ensuring the states have the funding and ability to update the NICS database in a timely manner.

But the NRA and most on the right continue to propagate their ridiculous lie and slippery slope fallacy that common sense measures will lead to the ‘banning’ of all guns and their eventual ‘confiscation.’

Cut the crap. Gun bans have been the left's goal for decades

An unarmed populace is an obedient populace.

All combined law enforcement in America, local, state, and federal, is able to forcibly control just about 1% of the population. IF the population rises up against our masters, there is literally nothing the government could do to stop us. Disarming the population would offer a significant psychological advantage to the state, though in reality would do little to change the odds.

The Globalist Oligarchs who rule us depend on the illusion that we are helpless against them. Should we ever truly move to retake America, there is little the Soros Cabal could do to counter it. This is why Trump is such a threat to them, he shows a man standing up to the ruling elite and winning.

 

[imawhosure]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

And you promised us if we bought into your bullsh**, if we like our doctor, we could keep our doctor!

You are all about increments! Take what you can, then move the ball down field.

You are SCREWED! Nobody is buying your nonsense anymore; or at least 85% of it.

You are a phony-e-baloney, and even your side knows it, although, they will never admit it, lol!

Good luck! You are screwed, and you better buy some Vaseline-)

 

[2aguy]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

Yes...they are...one gun, one category of gun or piece of equipment at a time. And they are not common sense...since they would actually have to be minimally useful in deterring actual criminals or mass public shooters....and not one new gun laws you guys want are even minimally useful toward that end...all they do is increase the cost for normal gun owners to exercise the Right to own and carry a gun.

 

[JWBooth]

A 1911 is an easy firearm to master and become comfortable with. Carried one in “condition 1” for thirty years. Securing the weapon to load the eighth round can be done with complete safety. I wouldn’t carry anything other than a 1911 or a variant (Para-Ordinance 14 round). Reliable as hell.

 

[Uncensored2008]

A 1911 is an easy firearm to master and become comfortable with. Carried one in “condition 1” for thirty years. Securing the weapon to load the eighth round can be done with complete safety. I wouldn’t carry anything other than a 1911 or a variant (Para-Ordinance 14 round). Reliable as hell.

I have a Government Issue model. The hammer falls VERY quickly. I would NOT want it to discharge a round while I tried to release the hammer, since it would rip your fingers off and such. An extra round is not worth the risk. Just keep several mags.

This one.

Colt Government Model MK IV Series 70 And Colt Ace 22 Pistol | Rock Island Auction

Great pistol, more accurate than my Glock 17.

 

[daveman]

“Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone”

True.

In fact, there are common sense measures that can be taken having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms, such as universal background checks and ensuring the states have the funding and ability to update the NICS database in a timely manner.

But the NRA and most on the right continue to propagate their ridiculous lie and slippery slope fallacy that common sense measures will lead to the ‘banning’ of all guns and their eventual ‘confiscation.’

Cut the crap. Gun bans have been the left's goal for decades

An unarmed populace is an obedient populace.

All combined law enforcement in America, local, state, and federal, is able to forcibly control just about 1% of the population. IF the population rises up against our masters, there is literally nothing the government could do to stop us. Disarming the population would offer a significant psychological advantage to the state, though in reality would do little to change the odds.

The Globalist Oligarchs who rule us depend on the illusion that we are helpless against them. Should we ever truly move to retake America, there is little the Soros Cabal could do to counter it. This is why Trump is such a threat to them, he shows a man standing up to the ruling elite and winning.

Watch out or would-be totalitarian liberals will say they'll nuke you if you don't comply.

 

[sealybobo]

I just gave one.

There’s a reason Ruger made the 1911 45 an 8 + 1. They could have made it 10 plus 1 but they didn’t.

And my hunting rifle is a 4 +1. Why didn’t they make it 10 plus 1? Because a hunter doesn’t need more than four shots.

The reason was a single stack magazine wan't hold more that that without sticking out the bottom of the mag well. lol

I’m just saying I don’t mind to learn my hunting rifle is only 3+1. I think that makes sense and would be ok if they never made them with more.

The nuts usually go buy their shit at the store. They aren’t going on the black market to find higher capacity rounds and ways to maximize damage. Some do but most just work with what’s available. Or what their parents have.

I wish klebolt and Harris parents only had five round revolvers.

The answer is simple...

Yet you don’t want anything stopping us from getting guns? Or any system that might catch and stop a nut?

Unfortunately casualties are a terrible byproduct of freedom and liberty.
Government regulation of freedom and liberty sucks...We have plenty now.
Why not prefer the imposition of a full police state in Democratic strongholds...Why not impose our will on the bad guys only?

We do. Blue states have different laws than red ones. People in red states don’t have to deal with the kinds of people we have to deal with if you know what I mean.

For example some red states allow conceal carry without a permit. Republicans in Michigan almost passed it but I’m sure they didn’t want blacks to be able to carry guns freely without having to first go through the class and jump through the hoops.

You know who hates guns? Cops.

 

[sealybobo]

I just gave one.

There’s a reason Ruger made the 1911 45 an 8 + 1. They could have made it 10 plus 1 but they didn’t.

And my hunting rifle is a 4 +1. Why didn’t they make it 10 plus 1? Because a hunter doesn’t need more than four shots.

The reason was a single stack magazine wan't hold more that that without sticking out the bottom of the mag well. lol

I’m just saying I don’t mind to learn my hunting rifle is only 3+1. I think that makes sense and would be ok if they never made them with more.

The nuts usually go buy their shit at the store. They aren’t going on the black market to find higher capacity rounds and ways to maximize damage. Some do but most just work with what’s available. Or what their parents have.

I wish klebolt and Harris parents only had five round revolvers.

The answer is simple...

Yet you don’t want anything stopping us from getting guns? Or any system that might catch and stop a nut?

Who decides what a “nut” is?

First the cops when I go to get my permit to purchase. My record matters but even if it’s clean if the cops get a bad vibe maybe they should launch an investigation. Interview your family and neighbors.

 

[2aguy]

The reason was a single stack magazine wan't hold more that that without sticking out the bottom of the mag well. lol

I’m just saying I don’t mind to learn my hunting rifle is only 3+1. I think that makes sense and would be ok if they never made them with more.

The nuts usually go buy their shit at the store. They aren’t going on the black market to find higher capacity rounds and ways to maximize damage. Some do but most just work with what’s available. Or what their parents have.

I wish klebolt and Harris parents only had five round revolvers.

The answer is simple...

Yet you don’t want anything stopping us from getting guns? Or any system that might catch and stop a nut?

Unfortunately casualties are a terrible byproduct of freedom and liberty.
Government regulation of freedom and liberty sucks...We have plenty now.
Why not prefer the imposition of a full police state in Democratic strongholds...Why not impose our will on the bad guys only?

We do. Blue states have different laws than red ones. People in red states don’t have to deal with the kinds of people we have to deal with if you know what I mean.

For example some red states allow conceal carry without a permit. Republicans in Michigan almost passed it but I’m sure they didn’t want blacks to be able to carry guns freely without having to first go through the class and jump through the hoops.

You know who hates guns? Cops.

Wrong.....your regular cops like people to carry guns....actual research shows this...

Police Gun Control Survey: Are legally-armed citizens the best solution to gun violence?

And when it comes to finding ways to reduce gun violence and large scale shootings, most cops say a federal ban on so-called “assault weapons” isn’t the answer.

More than 91 percent of respondents say it would either have no effect or a negative effect in reducing violent crime. This is an overwhelming response by those whose job it is to actually deal with this issue on the front lines.

Instead, it is interesting to note that many respondents consider armed citizens as a potential asset in reducing the carnage from a mass murder situation; proactive choices dominate over gun and magazine restrictions and bans.

More than 91 percent of respondents support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or not been deemed psychologically/medically incapable.

A full 86 percent feel that casualties would have been reduced or avoided in recent tragedies like Newtown and Aurora if a legally-armed citizen was present (casualties reduced: 80 percent; avoided altogether: 60 percent).

And you are wrong on this...

Republicans in Michigan almost passed it but I’m sure they didn’t want blacks to be able to carry guns freely without having to first go through the class and jump through the hoops.

It is the democrat party that keeps Black Americans from owning and carrying guns...it goes all the way back when the kkk, the terrorist arm of the democrat party, worked to disarm their Black victims....

 

[skye]

I haven't read all this thread...

but the one thing is

if you take guns from everyone in US .... the enemy wins


and....the enemy will NEVER win in America.

 

[sealybobo]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an evil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

I’m getting a Ruger 1911 45. Holds 8 plus 1. A smart regulation is to not make clips any bigger than this. It’s enough.

Good guys with guns can stop a bad guy with a gun as long as bad guy doesn’t have an assault rifle that can shoot or spray 40 bullets at a time.

Why would it be better to limit the ability to kill to eight people in lieu of nine people or twenty people? Some otherwise logical people seem to get fascinated by the number of people killed, versus the fact that people are killed.

Children are killed, all over this country, at school, on the way to school, or on the way home from school, every day, and few seem to notice. So, what is the magic number of dead people that causes so much concern? It is obviously not the deaths, it is the numbers of deaths that creates the concern.

There is no ultimate solve all solution. The goal is to lower the number of people a nut can kill because guns aren’t going away.

You’re talking about a completely different problem. Why people kill. I’m just trying to lower the number of people they can kill. I wish none of us could get a ten round clip because they don’t make them.

And my Ruger bushmaster only holds 4. And you have to do the thing each time to unload the spent cartridge and put another in the chamber. I couldn’t do the kind of damage the Vegas shooter did. Or the guys on the movie heat with their assault weapons. That was based on a real case. Those weapons shouldn’t be available.

Solve the crazy male problem first then I’ll consider letting anyone own and carry a gun.

 

[skye]

Second Amendment is Sacred.

Period.