CO2 emissions lowest since 1985!!

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More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

It is less polluted.

That's the whole point of the thread dummy.:flirtysmile4::flirtysmile4:
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.
But the co2 emissions are still too high, which is why educated people are not popping the champagne.
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.
"Automobile accident deaths are decreasing! Therefore, we no longer need seat belts!"
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?

Sigh. We're back to this argument are we?

Pollute

Definition of POLLUTE

"to contaminate (an environment) especially with man-made waste"

Now, let's try this for an example. A swimming pool.

A swimming pool is not just water. Usually it'll have a cleaning substance in it, chlorine. Put too much chlorine in a swimming pool and you'll end up poisoning the people in the pool. More than that and you'll kill them. Why?

Because chlorine is a dangerous gas. They used it in WW1 and someone has used it in Syria recently. Though it's not that effective as a weapon because it disperses easily.

You can put in X amount of chlorine, and the pool is not polluted. You can put in X*2 amount of chlorine and you've polluted the pool, because it's no longer "clean" or safe to swim in.

What is being denied?

Reality.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?

What happens to the oceans when they die?

We don't know. Potentially the oceans will potentially A) stop taking in CO2 and B) release a lot of the CO2.

What would happen if the oceans suddenly let out so much CO2 that the Earth's atmosphere changed too much.

We'd all die.
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?

Sigh. We're back to this argument are we?

Pollute

Definition of POLLUTE

"to contaminate (an environment) especially with man-made waste"

Now, let's try this for an example. A swimming pool.

A swimming pool is not just water. Usually it'll have a cleaning substance in it, chlorine. Put too much chlorine in a swimming pool and you'll end up poisoning the people in the pool. More than that and you'll kill them. Why?

Because chlorine is a dangerous gas. They used it in WW1 and someone has used it in Syria recently. Though it's not that effective as a weapon because it disperses easily.

You can put in X amount of chlorine, and the pool is not polluted. You can put in X*2 amount of chlorine and you've polluted the pool, because it's no longer "clean" or safe to swim in.

What is being denied?

Reality.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?

What happens to the oceans when they die?

We don't know. Potentially the oceans will potentially A) stop taking in CO2 and B) release a lot of the CO2.

What would happen if the oceans suddenly let out so much CO2 that the Earth's atmosphere changed too much.

We'd all die.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?


Did the pH level get too high and kill off the sea life when CO2 was 600 ppm?
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

Firstly, the "AGW crowd"


are a dying breed

as more people become acquainted with the truth

instead of the global warming lies and scare tactics
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

Firstly, the "AGW crowd"


are a dying breed

as more people become acquainted with the truth

instead of the global warming lies and scare tactics

The AGW crowd is a dying breed....well documented in here! Plus, those who support that stuff are in the minority.
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?

Sigh. We're back to this argument are we?

Pollute

Definition of POLLUTE

"to contaminate (an environment) especially with man-made waste"

Now, let's try this for an example. A swimming pool.

A swimming pool is not just water. Usually it'll have a cleaning substance in it, chlorine. Put too much chlorine in a swimming pool and you'll end up poisoning the people in the pool. More than that and you'll kill them. Why?

Because chlorine is a dangerous gas. They used it in WW1 and someone has used it in Syria recently. Though it's not that effective as a weapon because it disperses easily.

You can put in X amount of chlorine, and the pool is not polluted. You can put in X*2 amount of chlorine and you've polluted the pool, because it's no longer "clean" or safe to swim in.

What is being denied?

Reality.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?

What happens to the oceans when they die?

We don't know. Potentially the oceans will potentially A) stop taking in CO2 and B) release a lot of the CO2.

What would happen if the oceans suddenly let out so much CO2 that the Earth's atmosphere changed too much.

We'd all die.
You really are ignorant of paleo records...

Tell me why life wasn't exterminated when the earth was above 7000ppm... for millions of years..
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

:hello77::hello77:

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?

Sigh. We're back to this argument are we?

Pollute

Definition of POLLUTE

"to contaminate (an environment) especially with man-made waste"

Now, let's try this for an example. A swimming pool.

A swimming pool is not just water. Usually it'll have a cleaning substance in it, chlorine. Put too much chlorine in a swimming pool and you'll end up poisoning the people in the pool. More than that and you'll kill them. Why?

Because chlorine is a dangerous gas. They used it in WW1 and someone has used it in Syria recently. Though it's not that effective as a weapon because it disperses easily.

You can put in X amount of chlorine, and the pool is not polluted. You can put in X*2 amount of chlorine and you've polluted the pool, because it's no longer "clean" or safe to swim in.

What is being denied?

Reality.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?

What happens to the oceans when they die?

We don't know. Potentially the oceans will potentially A) stop taking in CO2 and B) release a lot of the CO2.

What would happen if the oceans suddenly let out so much CO2 that the Earth's atmosphere changed too much.

We'd all die.

Ha ha ha ha ha, the ocean waters already have 99% of all free CO2 of the system, a dribble more will not matter. Despite having almost all of the CO2 in it, the oceans are filled with life, from the smallest creatures to the largest whale in history, all living in the waters.

CO2 is an essential ingredient of the PHOTOSYNTHESIS process, according to you CO2 is bad stuff. Only a cultist idiot would be that deluded.

Meanwhile my extremely difficult question remains unanswered:

"What is being denied?"

Afraid of the truth...…?
 
Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?

Sigh. We're back to this argument are we?

Pollute

Definition of POLLUTE

"to contaminate (an environment) especially with man-made waste"

Now, let's try this for an example. A swimming pool.

A swimming pool is not just water. Usually it'll have a cleaning substance in it, chlorine. Put too much chlorine in a swimming pool and you'll end up poisoning the people in the pool. More than that and you'll kill them. Why?

Because chlorine is a dangerous gas. They used it in WW1 and someone has used it in Syria recently. Though it's not that effective as a weapon because it disperses easily.

You can put in X amount of chlorine, and the pool is not polluted. You can put in X*2 amount of chlorine and you've polluted the pool, because it's no longer "clean" or safe to swim in.

What is being denied?

Reality.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?

What happens to the oceans when they die?

We don't know. Potentially the oceans will potentially A) stop taking in CO2 and B) release a lot of the CO2.

What would happen if the oceans suddenly let out so much CO2 that the Earth's atmosphere changed too much.

We'd all die.

Ha ha ha ha ha, the ocean waters already have 99% of all free CO2 of the system, a dribble more will not matter. Despite having almost all of the CO2 in it, the oceans are filled with life, from the smallest creatures to the largest whale in history, all living in the waters.

CO2 is an essential ingredient of the PHOTOSYNTHESIS process, according to you CO2 is bad stuff. Only a cultist idiot would be that deluded.

Meanwhile my extremely difficult question remains unanswered:

"What is being denied?"

Afraid of the truth...…?

See this is the problem. You're just saying stuff without making a real argument.

Oceans Found to Absorb Half of All Man-Made Carbon Dioxide

"
Oceans Found to Absorb Half of All Man-Made Carbon Dioxide"

"Around half of all carbon dioxide produced by humans since the industrial revolution has dissolved into the world's oceans—with adverse effects for marine life—according to two new studies."

"scientists say the sink effect is now changing ocean chemistry. The resulting change has slowed growth of plankton, corals, and other invertebrates that serve as the most basic level of the ocean food chain. The impacts on marine life could be severe, scientists say."

You seem to have totally ignored this, come up with what looks like a made up "fact". Can you prove that 99% of "all free CO2" is in the oceans?

The oceans are changing, the PH levels are changing.

WOA05_GLODAP_del_pH_AYool.png


Here's a map of estimated change in sea surface pH levels between the 1700s and the 1990s.

Change is a fact. The impact on the oceans is a fact.

Yes, CO2 is an essential component of many things.

"according to you CO2 is bad stuff"

Bullshit, I didn't say this.

I gave you an example of chlorine in a swimming pool to explain pollution. Did it go over your head?

What is being denied? I answered it. You're playing silly childish games.

 
The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?

Sigh. We're back to this argument are we?

Pollute

Definition of POLLUTE

"to contaminate (an environment) especially with man-made waste"

Now, let's try this for an example. A swimming pool.

A swimming pool is not just water. Usually it'll have a cleaning substance in it, chlorine. Put too much chlorine in a swimming pool and you'll end up poisoning the people in the pool. More than that and you'll kill them. Why?

Because chlorine is a dangerous gas. They used it in WW1 and someone has used it in Syria recently. Though it's not that effective as a weapon because it disperses easily.

You can put in X amount of chlorine, and the pool is not polluted. You can put in X*2 amount of chlorine and you've polluted the pool, because it's no longer "clean" or safe to swim in.

What is being denied?

Reality.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?

What happens to the oceans when they die?

We don't know. Potentially the oceans will potentially A) stop taking in CO2 and B) release a lot of the CO2.

What would happen if the oceans suddenly let out so much CO2 that the Earth's atmosphere changed too much.

We'd all die.

Ha ha ha ha ha, the ocean waters already have 99% of all free CO2 of the system, a dribble more will not matter. Despite having almost all of the CO2 in it, the oceans are filled with life, from the smallest creatures to the largest whale in history, all living in the waters.

CO2 is an essential ingredient of the PHOTOSYNTHESIS process, according to you CO2 is bad stuff. Only a cultist idiot would be that deluded.

Meanwhile my extremely difficult question remains unanswered:

"What is being denied?"

Afraid of the truth...…?

See this is the problem. You're just saying stuff without making a real argument.

Oceans Found to Absorb Half of All Man-Made Carbon Dioxide

"
Oceans Found to Absorb Half of All Man-Made Carbon Dioxide"

"Around half of all carbon dioxide produced by humans since the industrial revolution has dissolved into the world's oceans—with adverse effects for marine life—according to two new studies."

"scientists say the sink effect is now changing ocean chemistry. The resulting change has slowed growth of plankton, corals, and other invertebrates that serve as the most basic level of the ocean food chain. The impacts on marine life could be severe, scientists say."

You seem to have totally ignored this, come up with what looks like a made up "fact". Can you prove that 99% of "all free CO2" is in the oceans?

The oceans are changing, the PH levels are changing.

WOA05_GLODAP_del_pH_AYool.png


Here's a map of estimated change in sea surface pH levels between the 1700s and the 1990s.

Change is a fact. The impact on the oceans is a fact.

Yes, CO2 is an essential component of many things.

"according to you CO2 is bad stuff"

Bullshit, I didn't say this.

I gave you an example of chlorine in a swimming pool to explain pollution. Did it go over your head?

What is being denied? I answered it. You're playing silly childish games.
The paper they cite used a model which exaggerated the level change by 4+ times... The papers validity as scientifically sound work has been seriously placed in question. In fact, as of today, the Ph level has dropped back to verified 1930 levels.. I wonder why you omit this?
 
The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?

Sigh. We're back to this argument are we?

Pollute

Definition of POLLUTE

"to contaminate (an environment) especially with man-made waste"

Now, let's try this for an example. A swimming pool.

A swimming pool is not just water. Usually it'll have a cleaning substance in it, chlorine. Put too much chlorine in a swimming pool and you'll end up poisoning the people in the pool. More than that and you'll kill them. Why?

Because chlorine is a dangerous gas. They used it in WW1 and someone has used it in Syria recently. Though it's not that effective as a weapon because it disperses easily.

You can put in X amount of chlorine, and the pool is not polluted. You can put in X*2 amount of chlorine and you've polluted the pool, because it's no longer "clean" or safe to swim in.

What is being denied?

Reality.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?

What happens to the oceans when they die?

We don't know. Potentially the oceans will potentially A) stop taking in CO2 and B) release a lot of the CO2.

What would happen if the oceans suddenly let out so much CO2 that the Earth's atmosphere changed too much.

We'd all die.

Ha ha ha ha ha, the ocean waters already have 99% of all free CO2 of the system, a dribble more will not matter. Despite having almost all of the CO2 in it, the oceans are filled with life, from the smallest creatures to the largest whale in history, all living in the waters.

CO2 is an essential ingredient of the PHOTOSYNTHESIS process, according to you CO2 is bad stuff. Only a cultist idiot would be that deluded.

Meanwhile my extremely difficult question remains unanswered:

"What is being denied?"

Afraid of the truth...…?

See this is the problem. You're just saying stuff without making a real argument.

Oceans Found to Absorb Half of All Man-Made Carbon Dioxide

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Oceans Found to Absorb Half of All Man-Made Carbon Dioxide"

"Around half of all carbon dioxide produced by humans since the industrial revolution has dissolved into the world's oceans—with adverse effects for marine life—according to two new studies."

"scientists say the sink effect is now changing ocean chemistry. The resulting change has slowed growth of plankton, corals, and other invertebrates that serve as the most basic level of the ocean food chain. The impacts on marine life could be severe, scientists say."

You seem to have totally ignored this, come up with what looks like a made up "fact". Can you prove that 99% of "all free CO2" is in the oceans?

The oceans are changing, the PH levels are changing.

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Here's a map of estimated change in sea surface pH levels between the 1700s and the 1990s.

Change is a fact. The impact on the oceans is a fact.

Yes, CO2 is an essential component of many things.

"according to you CO2 is bad stuff"

Bullshit, I didn't say this.

I gave you an example of chlorine in a swimming pool to explain pollution. Did it go over your head?

What is being denied? I answered it. You're playing silly childish games.

You progressives get way too hysterical over st00pid stuff. If you had some real responsibilities in life, you wouldn't be getting all worried about salt in the oceans s0n.
 
More bad news for the AGW crowd!!

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https://www.realclearenergy.org/art..._gas_is_slashing_us_co2_emissions_110310.html

CO2 has been on a steady decline....thanks to natural gas. But do we EVER hear the climate crusaders talking about it?:coffee::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:. Of course not....after all, there is an agenda to push. Ghey:113:

Too....natural gas has contributed to the temperature decline since 1995.... also never mentioned by the climate crusaders.

Firstly, the "AGW crowd" want the world to be less polluted.

Secondly you're only talking about the US. The world isn't just the US.

Thirdly I though CO2 didn't do anything, according to the "MMGW denial crowd".

The U.S. is doing it WITHOUT the following mass wealth transfer treaties, Kyoto, Paris accord.

Cheers.

And how much of this is because of what people who are worried about the world and the pollution have been doing?

If it had been left to the deniers, this wouldn't have happened.

CO2 is not a pollutant!

Meanwhile a major reason is the reduction of Coal to increased use of NG.

Maybe YOU can answer this TOUGH question, I have asked many times only to be ignored:

What is being denied?

Sigh. We're back to this argument are we?

Pollute

Definition of POLLUTE

"to contaminate (an environment) especially with man-made waste"

Now, let's try this for an example. A swimming pool.

A swimming pool is not just water. Usually it'll have a cleaning substance in it, chlorine. Put too much chlorine in a swimming pool and you'll end up poisoning the people in the pool. More than that and you'll kill them. Why?

Because chlorine is a dangerous gas. They used it in WW1 and someone has used it in Syria recently. Though it's not that effective as a weapon because it disperses easily.

You can put in X amount of chlorine, and the pool is not polluted. You can put in X*2 amount of chlorine and you've polluted the pool, because it's no longer "clean" or safe to swim in.

What is being denied?

Reality.

What happens to CO2 when it goes into the air?

A lot of it ends up on the oceans.

What happens to the oceans when there's an increase of CO2?

The PH levels change.

What happens to sea life when the PH levels change their environment too much?

They die?

What happens to the oceans when they die?

We don't know. Potentially the oceans will potentially A) stop taking in CO2 and B) release a lot of the CO2.

What would happen if the oceans suddenly let out so much CO2 that the Earth's atmosphere changed too much.

We'd all die.

CO2 isn't counted AT ALL in calculation of the Earth's atmospheric temperature. It's simply not counted. We know how to calculate the Earth's Atmosphere's average temperature, the French first did it completely in 1864 and those calculations, leading to the modern Standard definitions for Atmospheric Temperature, Pressure, Humidity, etc

ENSCONCED in THE STONE of INTERNATIONAL PHYSICS LAW as the International Standard Atmosphere.

This International Standard Atmosphere is the PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD,
which sits at the bottom of the MEASUREMENT and WARRANTYING and CALIBRATION of
EVERY single MANUFACTURED object,
having ANYTHING to do with
PRESSURE
TEMPERATURE
INSTRUMENTATION in atmospheric air
HUMIDITY
FLAMMABILITY due to composition of the atmosphere being a potential factor there,
and it covers every
LIGHT BULB
OVEN
STOVE
REFRIGERATOR
AIRCRAFT PART
SPACE CRAFT PART
A.N.Y.T.H.I.N.G. on this PLANET...

and FOR YOUR INFORMATION CLIMATE-FLAKE
there isn't an ACCOUNTING of CO2 in that STRING of process functions,
because CO2 is a TINY TINY TINY FRACTION of an ENORMOUS
COLD
NITROGEN/OXYGEN BATH.

And FURTHERMORE, thermo-0-billy, CO2 COOLS any volume of air it's added to.

Do you know the NAME of the LAW written for SOLVING the temperatures of GASES hence ATMOSPHERES?

What's the EQUATION OF THAT LAW. mR CLIMIT ADVISUR.
How many PARTS does the LAW HAVE?


There's obviously the EQUATION what are the other parts of the law and why does there even need to BE A LAW,
for solving the temperatures of gases?

hUH? Cat got your tongue magic gasser?

When you solve for the temperature of the Earth and you don't use gas law - that's why you don't know that law, your handlers HIDE it from you because it FORBIDS your church's KOOK CLAIMS
about a COLD NITROGEN BATH
being a HEATER.

BOTH PARTS OF THE LAW FORBID IT.

First since your church doesn't USE the law at ALL so it never accounts the 33 DEGREES COMPRESSION WARMING, only GAS LAW CAN TAKE CARE OF

then when your handlers told you CO2 warms air, CO2 HAS A LOWER ENERGY PER MOLE than AIR.

ADDITION of CO2 to ANY VOLUME of ATMOSPHERIC AIR MANDATES all other things being equal, it COOLS.
WHY
didn't your HANDLERS
TELL you this.

WHY? Why does your church solve for temperature and come up 33 degrees short of the KNOWN CORRECT International Standard Atmosphere?


Because they don't use the EQUATION of the LAW
they never account the Atmosphere's 33 DEGREES' COMPRESSION WARMING
INTRINSIC to COMPRESSIBLE PHASE MATTER and for which there is
NO other PROVISION
in ANY LAW
for HANDLING.
There WAS,
but that law was made obsolete by the law that BONDED and UNIFIED that LAW
and the other THREE

making the FOUR major gas laws, subsidiary to the MAIN one, and obsolete.

WHAT'S the NAME of the LAW of THERMODYNAMICS for SOLVING ATMOSPHERIC TEMPERATURE.

TELL these PEOPLE or you're the FAKE I'm already telling them you are cause you're so DUMB you think CO2
added to the atmosphere, WARMS the PLANET.
 

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