CNN Truth Squad: Did Obama destroy the economy?

[Vanquish]

for example....

Democrats dont want to give entitlements to the lazy...they want to give them to those that dont want them, but need them....and unfortunately, it also helps the lazy that dont want to do for themselves.

The end result is that Democrats give money to the lazy. That's all that matters. Your intentions are irrelevant. That's one of the biggest problems with Democrats: they think their intentions matter more than results.

Republicans dont want to assist the wealthy at the expoense of the working class. They want the small business owners to have the comfort and secruity necessary to take chances and expand...and unfoirtunately that ALSO helps the uber rich that dont need the help.

By "helping the uber rich" you mean not plundering them for everything they have. According to that definition, I am interested in helping the uber rich. No one deserves to have everything they have earned taken from them by a gang of prehensile morons.

Ohh great. Veiled racism. That makes you sound totally superior to those dumb Dems.

You sound completely idiotic with your hatred of Dems the way you post it. At least Jarhead is trying to make a point. You just spew hatred...and sound unobjective to the point of absurdity.

And Jarhead, don't be so naive as to think that all Republicans are lily white when it comes to fucking over their opposites. Surely you're not that wet behind the ears.

You do have one thing right...that whole post you made (or was it someone else) about needing to leave USMB because it's basically all rants and no real discussion? You're being so thick that I might take that advice myself.

Nah, Brit would enjoy that too much.

 

[Chris]

 

[The T]

Got OUT of your banning Chrissie? Don't DO IT again!

 

[bripat9643]

By "helping the uber rich" you mean not plundering them for everything they have. According to that definition, I am interested in helping the uber rich. No one deserves to have everything they have earned taken from them by a gang of prehensile morons.

Ohh great. Veiled racism. That makes you sound totally superior to those dumb Dems.

What "veiled racism?" I haven't said a thing that even hints at race. I'm sure the problem here is that you need to look up the words I used in a dictionary.

You sound completely idiotic with your hatred of Dems the way you post it. At least Jarhead is trying to make a point. You just spew hatred...and sound unobjective to the point of absurdity.

So anyone who attacks Democrats is "unnobjective?" What could be more preposterous than race baiting libs who think they are "objective?"

 

[IndependntLogic]

for example....

Ohh great. Veiled racism.
I don't think you meant racism here. The context makes it seem you simply meant prejudice against Dems.
That makes you sound totally superior to those dumb Dems.

You sound completely idiotic with your hatred of Dems the way you post it. At least Jarhead is trying to make a point. You just spew hatred...and sound unobjective to the point of absurdity.

This is fairly obvious. Happens with both sides and it's always easy to spot. Anyone who thinks the Republicans are blameless, if a fool. Oh, and anyone who thinks the Dems are blameless is the same. Kool-aid drinkers are abundant on both sides.
And Jarhead, don't be so naive as to think that all Republicans are lily white when it comes to fucking over their opposites. Surely you're not that wet behind the ears.

You do have one thing right...that whole post you made (or was it someone else) about needing to leave USMB because it's basically all rants and no real discussion? You're being so thick that I might take that advice myself.

Nah, Brit would enjoy that too much.

It's always interesting to see just how many people are completely blinded by party.
LibDems: Forcing the banks to lend to those who don't qualify had nothing to do with the crisis. Yeah right.
ConservaRepubs: Deregulating the Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities industry so that tens of thousands of sub-prime mortgages could be bundled and traded without requiring insurance (remember credit-swaps?) or regulation had nothing to do with the crisis. Yeah right.

When did people forget how to think for themselves?

 

[editec]

It's always interesting to see just how many people are completely blinded by party.
LibDems: Forcing the banks to lend to those who don't qualify had nothing to do with the crisis. Yeah right.
ConservaRepubs: Deregulating the Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities industry so that tens of thousands of sub-prime mortgages could be bundled and traded without requiring insurance (remember credit-swaps?) or regulation had nothing to do with the crisis. Yeah right.

When did people forget how to think for themselves?

Never.

MOST people are trained NOT to think for themselves.

Such thinking is discouraged.

Some of us just have no choice but think for ourselves.

I do think, however, that the more marginalized one is from society, the more likely one is to see through the conceits and myths that society uses to fool itself.

Partisans embrace GROUP THINK.

They drive out independent thinkers as surely as religious nutters eschew heretics.

 

[Intense]

Never.

MOST people are trained NOT to think for themselves.

Such thinking is discouraged.

Some of us just have no choice but think for ourselves.

I do think, however, that the more marginalized one is from society, the more likely one is to see through the conceits and myths that society uses to fool itself.

Partisans embrace GROUP THINK.

They drive out independent thinkers as surely as religious nutters eschew heretics.

They throw them under the bus.

 

[Vanquish]

It's always interesting to see just how many people are completely blinded by party.
LibDems: Forcing the banks to lend to those who don't qualify had nothing to do with the crisis. Yeah right.
ConservaRepubs: Deregulating the Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities industry so that tens of thousands of sub-prime mortgages could be bundled and traded without requiring insurance (remember credit-swaps?) or regulation had nothing to do with the crisis. Yeah right.

When did people forget how to think for themselves?

That's a great question.

BTW, I did mean to say racism. The fucker typed "a gang of prehensile morons" which while not directly racism was, I'm sure, a veiled reference to monkeys. He didn't say "prehistoric" or "caveman" or any other of the infinite adjectives he could have chosen. He chose one that had to do with monkey tails.

Dispute it as I'm sure you will, but gang imagery + democratic demonization + monkey reference + his ridiculous track record of posting insanely crappy shit = more than enough for me to believe that it was veiled racism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What "veiled racism?" I haven't said a thing that even hints at race. I'm sure the problem here is that you need to look up the words I used in a dictionary.

You've got to understand Brian, when someone has only one card, they're going to play it. The left has the race card, so if you say "Obama has a poor vision by raising the debt another $5 trillion over the next 6 years," they are going to scream "RACIST." If you say "1% growth from $4 trillion in stimulus is a crappy investment," they are going to scream "RACIST."

If you say "Water is wet," they are going to scream "RACIST."

So anyone who attacks Democrats is "unnobjective?" What could be more preposterous than race baiting libs who think they are "objective?"

Suggesting that leftists are not objective is racist!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Never.

MOST people are trained NOT to think for themselves.

That is precisely the purpose of the public schools, to train children NOT to think and not to question authority.

Such thinking is discouraged.

Some of us just have no choice but think for ourselves.

I do think, however, that the more marginalized one is from society, the more likely one is to see through the conceits and myths that society uses to fool itself.

Partisans embrace GROUP THINK.

They drive out independent thinkers as surely as religious nutters eschew heretics.

You mean those who fail to bleat "Oh Bah Bahh Bahhhh Mahhh" might be ostracized?

 

[bripat9643]

That's a great question.

BTW, I did mean to say racism. The fucker typed "a gang of prehensile morons" which while not directly racism was, I'm sure, a veiled reference to monkeys. He didn't say "prehistoric" or "caveman" or any other of the infinite adjectives he could have chosen. He chose one that had to do with monkey tails. .

Just as I thought, you're a moron who doesn't know the definition of "prehensile." The word means "grasping." It is sometimes applied to monkeys that have tails that can graps things, but the usual ignoramus like you think it refers only to monkeys.

Thanks for proving what a boob and an idiot you are.

Dispute it as I'm sure you will, but gang imagery + democratic demonization + monkey reference + his ridiculous track record of posting insanely crappy shit = more than enough for me to believe that it was veiled racism.

I bet you also believe a horsehair put into a bottle of oil will turn into a snake or that you can become rich without working.

You're an idiot.

Case closed.

 

[Vanquish]

What "veiled racism?" I haven't said a thing that even hints at race. I'm sure the problem here is that you need to look up the words I used in a dictionary.

You've got to understand Brian, when someone has only one card, they're going to play it. The left has the race card, so if you say "Obama has a poor vision by raising the debt another $5 trillion over the next 6 years," they are going to scream "RACIST." If you say "1% growth from $4 trillion in stimulus is a crappy investment," they are going to scream "RACIST."

If you say "Water is wet," they are going to scream "RACIST."

So anyone who attacks Democrats is "unnobjective?" What could be more preposterous than race baiting libs who think they are "objective?"

Suggesting that leftists are not objective is racist!

LOL. Funny. Oh wait, you were serious?

Let's recap.

I showed how Obama wasn't a socialist. Your side had no reply.
I showed how Obama was pro-business. Your side had no reply.
Fuck, earlier in the thread I laid out a bunch of other stuff that your side had no reply for.

And all you can do is fall back on the "liberals cry racism" meme. Pathetic, really. I've been waiting for REAL ANSWERS from you fuckers, and all I get is the normal USMB penis-pulling.

Keep at it. Perhaps you'll come up with something useful.

 

[Uncensored2008]

LOL. Funny. Oh wait, you were serious?

Relevant, or wait, this is vanquish...

Let's recap.

I showed how Obama wasn't a socialist. Your side had no reply.
I showed how Obama was pro-business. Your side had no reply.

Obama Akbar!

You showed how your Messiah® is god of this and all universes, the infidels couldn't prove to you otherwise.

Fuck, earlier in the thread I laid out a bunch of other stuff that your side had no reply for.

How your Messiah® heals the sick and raises the dead?

Say sparky, why has he failed to raise the economy from the dead?

And all you can do is fall back on the "liberals cry racism" meme.

You took a post that had nothing to do with race, and played the one card you have - though entirely inappropriate.

Pathetic, really. I've been waiting for REAL ANSWERS from you fuckers, and all I get is the normal USMB penis-pulling.

Dude, you're a mindless partisan in a short skirt with pom-poms chanting your love of your little tin god. No one takes you seriously.

Keep at it. Perhaps you'll come up with something useful.

 

[Vanquish]

LOL. Funny. Oh wait, you were serious?

Relevant, or wait, this is vanquish...

Let's recap.

I showed how Obama wasn't a socialist. Your side had no reply.
I showed how Obama was pro-business. Your side had no reply.

Obama Akbar!

You showed how your Messiah® is god of this and all universes, the infidels couldn't prove to you otherwise.



How your Messiah® heals the sick and raises the dead?

Say sparky, why has he failed to raise the economy from the dead?



You took a post that had nothing to do with race, and played the one card you have - though entirely inappropriate.

Pathetic, really. I've been waiting for REAL ANSWERS from you fuckers, and all I get is the normal USMB penis-pulling.

Dude, you're a mindless partisan in a short skirt with pom-poms chanting your love of your little tin god. No one takes you seriously.

Keep at it. Perhaps you'll come up with something useful.

A post without a meaningful reply. Your 2 moms must be so proud.

How about you don't just repeat yourself...and you actually make an argument. I know it's tough, but dig down...deep inside. I know you can do it. I'm pulling for ya.

I'm about as far from a mindless partisan as USMB gets. I've posted countless times about my problems with the dems and Obama. But asshats like you have the reading comprehension of a gnat. It doesnt penetrate your thick fucking skull. You just go with what you think "wins" you the argument...no matter how in reality you look like a dipshit.

So keep lying to yourself, Senior Douche. Circle-jerk with Rabbi and BritPat. You all keep swallowing your own....rhetoric and thinking that anyone one here actually cares.

 

[Uncensored2008]

A post without a meaningful reply. Your 2 moms must be so proud.

I accept your concession of defeat, but you forgot to call me a racist!

How about you don't just repeat yourself...and you actually make an argument.

Your little tin god is a shitty president who had utterly mishandled the economy resulting in continued unemployment and a fall into the second dip of a double dip recession..

Acknowledging the above makes me a racist, of course.

I know it's tough, but dig down...deep inside. I know you can do it. I'm pulling for ya.

Zzzzzzzzz

I'm about as far from a mindless partisan as USMB gets.

Only Truthmatters and Zona can match you for your lack of partisanship!

I've posted countless times about my problems with the dems and Obama.

Every time someone points out that you're a partisan! 40 pages of heaping praise on the Messiah® and hate on those infidels of the rights, followed by a sentence about how very middle of the road you are.

Well, I'm convinced!

But asshats like you have the reading comprehension of a gnat. It doesnt penetrate your thick fucking skull. You just go with what you think "wins" you the argument...no matter how in reality you look like a dipshit.

I generally strive to make a few valid points, intermingled with the mocking.

So keep lying to yourself, Senior Douche. Circle-jerk with Rabbi and BritPat.

I've known Brian for about 20 years. He has more political knowledge and sense than just about anyone I know.

Do you grasp that neither he nor I are actually Republicans?

You all keep swallowing your own....rhetoric and thinking that anyone one here actually cares.

Irony alert.....

 

[IndependntLogic]

Never.

MOST people are trained NOT to think for themselves.

That is precisely the purpose of the public schools, to train children NOT to think and not to question authority.

While I think our education system sucks overall and would happily do away with the Dept of Ed., I was pleased to learn my daughter is currently assigned Fahrenheit 451 in her Honors Lit class. Not exactly a manual for conformity.

Such thinking is discouraged.

Some of us just have no choice but think for ourselves.

I do think, however, that the more marginalized one is from society, the more likely one is to see through the conceits and myths that society uses to fool itself.

Partisans embrace GROUP THINK.

They drive out independent thinkers as surely as religious nutters eschew heretics.

You mean those who fail to bleat "Oh Bah Bahh Bahhhh Mahhh" might be ostracized?

Or say, those who fail to chant the same bumper-sticker mantras that are anti-Obama? Goes both ways, which is what editec pointed out. When millions of people all have the exact same opinion about ALL of: Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Cantor, Boehner, Perry, ObamaCare, Taxes, Health Care, Defense, Iraq, Libya, OBL, The Deficit, Unemployment, Unions and so on... it's not hard to figure out, they're sheeple following the Herd / Mob mentality.
And of course, the more of a herd mentality they have, the more likely they are to attack someone who doesn't conform perfectly to what the Thought Masters have dictated on ANY issue.

 

[bripat9643]

I've known Brian for about 20 years. He has more political knowledge and sense than just about anyone I know.

Do you grasp that neither he nor I are actually Republicans?

I've been called a Fascist, Nazi, Communist, Marxist, Anarchist, Monarchist, Reactionary, Radical, Republican, Democrat and probably about a dozen other things I can't recall.

When these trolls are thoroughly brainwashed in the government schools, they have difficulty pegging anyone who doesn't fit into their assigned roles.

 

[Wiseacre]

Lotta blame to go around for how we got into this mess, every President and Congress deserves some discredit. Ultimately it comes down to us though, we didn't insist on policies and decisions that kept the debt under control. Obama is just another person in a long line of people who fucked up.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm not sure how much the public can really do. Though we DID all sit around and let Bush AND Obama fleece us to ensure the wealth of Goldman Sachs, Chase, AIG, et al.

 

[Vanquish]

A post without a meaningful reply. Your 2 moms must be so proud.

I accept your concession of defeat, but you forgot to call me a racist!

Is that seriously your go to? Really?? Come on...let's hope the rest of this ramps up to something better. Yeah, I called you a racist. And thought it was veiled, you know what you meant.

How about you don't just repeat yourself...and you actually make an argument.

Your little tin god is a shitty president who had utterly mishandled the economy resulting in continued unemployment and a fall into the second dip of a double dip recession..

He's not my tin god. He's your hate fixation. I've continually stated that I have multiple problems with his failures. You apparently either a) can't read or b) have to keep repeating that so you can "win the thread" I'll let our fair readers choose which they think it is. Here I am saying it again...but you'll mindlessly droll on.



Acknowledging the above makes me a racist, of course.
Nah. Your racism does. The fact that you're good at it saves you a bit though.


Zzzzzzzzz
Finally, you see what it's like to read your posts.


Only Truthmatters and Zona can match you for your lack of partisanship!
Irony, sweet mystery of life at last I've found you.


Every time someone points out that you're a partisan! 40 pages of heaping praise on the Messiah® and hate on those infidels of the rights, followed by a sentence about how very middle of the road you are.

Well, I'm convinced!

Heaping praise? Are you MAAAAAAD???
I've simply called you out on your bullshit.

You said he was something he's not. I've explained how he's not.
That doesnt make him a golden god by any means.
You just can't be objective enough to realize that someone defending him DOESNT mean they like him.



I generally strive to make a few valid points, intermingled with the mocking.

So keep lying to yourself, Senior Douche. Circle-jerk with Rabbi and BritPat.

I've known Brian for about 20 years. He has more political knowledge and sense than just about anyone I know.
I shudder to guess the type of people you know. Good to uncover the close relation though.


Do you grasp that neither he nor I are actually Republicans?
I don't care what the fuck you are. Be a green-faced, 3-titted Venusian space prostitute if you like. The way you a) classify people based on some whacked out fantasy and b) hate those who you classify as libs makes you sound IDIOTIC, not Republican.

I mean for fuck's sake...I'm sitting here typing that I'm disappointed in Obama and that I have conservative beliefs and what do you and dumbfuck do? You don't try to build on that...you feed your hate for anyone that doesnt believe exactly what you do.

That's amazing!!!

You all keep swallowing your own....rhetoric and thinking that anyone one here actually cares.

Irony alert.....

Wow. You really got me there. Mortally wounded. Or perhaps not.

Look just own up to the fact that you dont have to insult everyone who thinks differently than you do. Also learn that someone who defends Obama on specific points doesnt have to be a liberal. The next step is to stop all the redneck 'I hate libs' bullshit, but that's a hard one for you I'm sure.

The ultimate irony is that you say you're neither republican or democrat...and I'd describe myself the same way. We're closer than this argument would suggest. But you just like hating those you mischaracterize as your enemy.

Have fun with that.